This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: biesik, peplinski Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DFC.2ACE/505.605.1.1 Message Board Post: I would be interested in knowing what other details you have and please feel free to email me anytime. With respect to your questions: Jan Biesik and Susanna Stoltz - their sons Paul and Nick list Szatapy, Poland as their birthplace on citizenship papers, as you mentioned. And Nick added Schartapay, Germany on his. I was unable to find a village or town by this exaxt spelling in tax records and gazeteers of Prussia from 1772 to the late 1800s. However, there is a Szatarpi, Poland mentioned as being located at approx. 54N longitude 18E latitude in the late 1800s (see the web page: http://gov.genealogy.net/ort.jsp?id=209955). Szatarpy (Polish spelling) is still on modern Polish maps (for example, see the web page: http://www.pilot.pl/big_pilot.php3?z_city_id=1732&katalog=n14_&max_katalog=n14_&x_obr=771&y_obr=1304&x_15=98636&y_15=83519&form_t=0&tool=3&info=&lang=pl). It is located approx. 20 km east of Kościerzyna (formerly known as Berent, West Prussia). This puts them in the heart of the Kashubian region of Poland Regarding the variations in spelling, Paul and Nick would most likely use the Kashubian version and not necessarily the Polish version. And "sz" in Polish is spelled "sch" in German (I am a German & Polish translator). I have heard that both Jan and Susanna lived in Stevens Point, and that Jan died while on a trip back to Poland. Nobody in my family can explain why he was not brought back here for burial -- perhaps too expensive? Further research would require determining which parish the town of Szatarpy belonged to. Because they were Catholic, I have not been able to find this information on German genealogy sites, which give only Lutheran parishes in West Prussia. Regarding John and Clara. Her name was Clara Brigitte Peplinski. They were married October 1, 1887 in Stevens Point, which you have on your website. She stated she was from "Stadt Berent" (she knew German - it means town of Berent). This was and still is the "capitol" of Kashubia, a region in Poland from where the majority of Poles in Stevens Point originated. Her parents' names were Carl Ludwig Peplinski and Paulin Troka. Carl had a Polish father and a German Lutheran mother. Paulin's father was German and her mother was Polish. [Underneath this information, taken from Clara's daughter's notes in 1923, is written Rhein River, Birent, Germany]. Clara came to this country with her father when she was 9, but returned to Poland. She returned to the US permanently when she was 16. She lived briefly with relatives in upstate New York, and then worked for a while in Detroit as a waitress/cook before settling in or near Stevens Point with relatives. Clara's father was bo! rn in Skorzewo, Poland, a few miles north of Berent. Clara's mother, Paulin, died sometime after 1870? and Carl remarried, probably to Marianna Kropilowska on November 19,1878. A tentative birth date for Carl is July 29, 1837, if this is indeed that Carl. Some of the 8 children from this marriage emigrated to the Milwaukee area and to Berlin, Germany. Clara's father Carl had a farm and also escorted people to the US. He evidently knew some English. They also worked on farms in upstate New York due to (so the story goes) some relation they had there. At least one of Clara's brothers and one of her half-brothers settled in Richfield Springs, NY. Research on Clara's parents is difficult to sort out as the town of Berent burned several times in the 1800s and 1900s. Even Clara herself stated that "all her church records were burnt in a fire". German tax records from 1772 (the so-called Kontributionskataster or Prussian Land Registry from the Marburg state archives in Germany) list several Peplinski and Troka families living in the Berent area. No Biesiks are listed at all in West Prussia, but there are some "Bieseck's" and several Stoltz's, all residing in various districts around Berent. My research indicates that many families from West Prussia entered through the port of Baltimore in the 1870s-1880s. But we must wait for more passenger lists to be published as I have not yet found either Biesiks or Peplinskis there. If I remember correctly, there was 1 Biesik listed through the port of New York, but his country of origin was listed as Austria. There were also several Biesiks coming from Slovakia. I don't remember which port they came through. Obviously no relation.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/1793.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you so much for your time! I love it that you were walking around there, that's nice. Thanks for checking, I'll keep working on it.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/1793.1 Message Board Post: Hi Amy, I am not sure if this is going to help or not, but I don't live that far from St. Johns Cemetery. I took a walk through the cemetery today. I found Caroline and William Whitrock's gravesites. But as far as I can tell from the headstones, there are no other Whitrock graves. There are quite a few old headstones that are unreadable. Caroline and William are not buried in the same vicinity in the cemetery. The headstones that are located next to both of them were readable and they were not the Whitrock name. You may want to write to the church for their records. Good Luck, Sandi

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/187.430.421.1 Message Board Post: HI, MY GRANDFATHER NAME WAS MICHAEL MILANOWSKI AND WAS A SON OF ANTHONY MILANOWSKI AND MARY LUKOWICZ. I HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THEM... LET ME KNOW IF I CAN HELP

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: PRINTZ/ZABOROWSKI/Dahlman/Kluck Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/8.133.582 Message Board Post: Amy: I have some info on the Frances Zaborowski and Paul Printz. Printz is my lineage. I would like to complete some of the gaps I have and if you would like further information on the PRINTZ lineage, just let me know. Please let me know if we can exchange. Joanne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/294.496.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Interesting question. I have Carl and August having a sister who was married to a Stephen Tafelski. Source is August's Obituary. Unable to determine her first name. I also have a Martha Betker who was married to Stephen Zywicki. I don't have her connected to any particular family. Do you have actual final naturalization paper or declarations of intent?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/1800.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I will be glad to give you all of the Irish Manley lines in the WI census. Please e-mail me directly at [email protected] so we don't tie up the message boards. Sandy in Escondido, CA, USA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/1800.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the information, which is rather amazing! Please contact me with just the Irish info and where you got it. [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/1800.1.1.1 Message Board Post: You wrote in the [brackets]: [In the 1900 census, there is an Albert W. Manley, born 1861 in Wisconsin, parents New York and Illinois. Albert's family: wife, Anna, daughters, Ella and Lucie.] Albert was born 20May1861 in Grand Rapids [now Wisconsin Rapids] , Wood County, WI. Albert's wife Anna was Anna Elizabeth Wilson, born 4Feb1868 in Granville, Milwaukee, WI. Her parents were Samuel Wilson and Elizabeth Smith. Their children were: 1--Lottie Ellen, born 28Aug1892 died 29Dec1893 2--Ella Adelia, born 24Jun1895, married Vern Ellis 11Apr1918 and had 5 kids 3--Lucy Elizabeth, born 26Jun1899, married Clarence R George 20Oct1928 and had no children 4--Harry Albert, born 7Jun1902, married Minnie Foss Oct1923, nothing more known 5--Ralph Samuel, born 27Apr1904, died 5May1906. In 1900, Albert was a farmer. In 1905, he and brother Martin [below] were partners in the General Store in Bancroft, and in 1912, Albert became President and major stockholder in the Bancroft State Bank and continued until his death 21Jul1930 of bladder and kidney disease. [In the 1920 census of Portage, there is a Charles W. Manley, age 46] Charles Warner Manley was born 28October, 1873 in Almond, Portage County, WI. He married Cecelia Athalia McIntee 24Dec1894. Her parents were Edwin McIntee and Athalia Eliza Skeel. Their children were: Robert, Edward, Fred, Charles, Florence, Fern, Margaret, Cora, Lewis, Dorothy, and Elsie. Charles was a School Teacher and lived in Stevens Point. [and a Martin N. Manley, age 40.] Martin Newton Manley was born 29Apr1879 in Almond, Portage County, WI. He married Elizabeth S Young on 4Aug1901. She was born in 1881 in Buena Vista Township, Portage County, WI. They had one son, Monroe Frederick, born 10Jul1902 in Bancroft, Portage, WI. Martin ran the General Store after brother sold out to him and he was the School Clerk and also a Notary Public. [I am looking for the generation that would have preceded these people.] Albert William Manley, Charles Warner Manley, Martin Manley, James Markham Manley, Alice Mary Jane Manley Russell, and Cora Irena Manley Wilson's parents were Samuel Monroe Manley, born 25Jul1838 in West Parishville, St Lawrence, NY and Irena Marie Markham, born 27Jun1843 in Coral, McHenry County, IL. Samuel Monroe Manley was the son of Martin Manley and Lodema Moore of Chittenden, Rutland, VT. Martin was the son of Seth Manley, Jr and Remember Smith of North Easton, Bristol, MA. Seth Jr, was the son of Seth Manley and Mercy Keith of North Easton, Bristol, MA. Seth was the son of Thomas Manley and Lydia Hannah Stone of Weymouth, Norfolk, MA. Thomas was the son of William Manley and Rebecca Brooks of Weymouth, Norfolk, MA. From the "History of Weymouth, Norfolk, MA" it states that 'a Mr Manley was on the passenger list of the Thomas Weston ship Charity, which arrived in Weymouth, MA in 1622 and he had a son William, who was a witness to the will of John Whitman.' William Manley's daughter Rebecca married a John Whitman. [If your family was not Irish, then there is no connection. Thanks.] So Albert W Manley, Charles W Manley, and Martin Manley have an English line. I have all of the Manley's in the 1850, 1860, 1870, partial 1880, 1900, partial 1910, and 1920 and know some of them are Irish lines if you would like my help. Sandy in Escondido, CA, USA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/1800.1.1 Message Board Post: The following families are interrelated: MANLEY, TIGUE, MCTIGUE, NORTON, BARRETT A large number of MCTIGUEs settled in Portage County, WI. In the 1900 census, there is an Albert W. Manley, born 1861 in Wisconsin, parents New York and Illinois. Albert's family: wife, Anna, daughters, Ella and Lucie. In the 1920 census of Portage, there is a Charles W. Manley, age 46 and a Martin N. Manley, age 40. I am looking for the generation that would have preceded these people. If your family was not Irish, then there is no connection. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/1800.1 Message Board Post: We have MANLEY family in Portage County, WI, but find no MCTIGUE. What are the MANLEY names? Sandy in Escondido, CA, USA ***************************************** Out-going mail is certified "Virus Free" Checked By Norton Anti-Virus 2002 ###########################

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DFC.2ACE/505.605.1 Message Board Post: yes...paul and john were brothers, also frank and nick who were living in milwaukee, wisconsin, and a sister, katherine, who married nick kulas and lived in stevens point. from what i have heard, the father, jan died in poland. their mother, susanne stoltz, died in 1911 and is buried at the kulas family lot at st peter's cem (by the lake) i have a copy of john's obit, i think he died in wausau and is buried at stevens point, garudian angel cem. clara and the children (some of them) were living in milwaukee, wi at the time of john's death do you know where they are from in poland? 1900 census for susanne states she had 15 children with 6 still living in 1900: john, paul, katherine, nick, and frank...i have no information on the other child? do you know when and where clara and john were married? who were her parents? so many questions......................

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/1800 Message Board Post: Looking to connect to MANLEY family history. Have the MCTIGUE connection in Portage. [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Goskowicz, Goszkowicz, Wierzba, Kizewski Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/623.629.1.1.1 Message Board Post: This is the info I have: Goszkowicz is a name peculiar to the Portage County area of Wisconsin. Basically, anyone in America with this name is related. In Poland, the name is peculiar to Kashubia. But before the name appears in Poland, it appears in Slonim, Grodno district, Belarus. Slonim has been part of Russia, Lithuania, Belarus, Poland, and Ukraine. Goszko appears ONCE in the Belarusian Phonebook. Goszkowicz does not appear at all. I find the variation Goskowitz about 15 times in Germany. I am in process of contacting all, hopefully finding someone with more info on the family (perhaps a family bible) still living in Europe. The name is also JEWISH! even though the family is 97% Polish Catholic. I found one Lowa Goszkowicz, a carpenter living in Pruzany Ghetto, born in Slonim, son of Dawid Goszkowicz and Sonia Kuperfinig, arrested 31 January 1943 and arriving at Auschwitz 2 February 1943. The name is also spelled Grzengowicz, Gorzkowitz, Gorszskowicz (but these may be misspellings). Albert Goszkowicz: aka WOJCIECH CHRYSTIAN GOSZKOWICZ, b. 21 April 1859, Sierakowitz, Kreis Karthaus, Prussia, Poland; d. 10 April 1938, Town of Sharon, Portage County, Wisconsin. He married EVA FRYDACH 18 November 1890 in Portage County, Wisconsin, daughter of JOSEPH FRYDACH and ELIZABETH PIECHOWSKI. She was born 24 February 1875 in Town of Sharon, Portage County, Wisconsin, and died 29 October 1937 in Town of Sharon, Portage County, Wisconsin. Albert is the son of JOHN GOSZKOWICZ, born 12 May 1830 in Gowidlino, Sierakowice, Prussia, Poland, and died 1912 in Prussia, Poland. He married JOSEPHINE MERONEK on 15 February 1858 in Gowidlino, Sierakowice, Prussia, Poland. She was born Abt. 1838 in Prussia, Poland, and died 1879 in Prussia, Poland. John is the son of JOHANN GORSZKOWICZ. He married HEDWIG RAMCZYK. Johann and Hedwig also had a daughter Josephine who married Michael Kotlowski. I am in touch with a member of this line. ANY information you have beyond this, is greatly appreciated. You can also contact me directly at: [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kizewski, Fredach, Fredock, Frydach, Goszkowicz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/623.629.1.1 Message Board Post: Oh, yes... I have been working with the Goszkowicz lineage and Fredach... and Kizewski!!!! Presently working on the Kizewski's... I think I can more than help you out...

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fredach, Fredock, Frydrach, Goszkowicz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/623.631 Message Board Post: I have the folks that you are looking for... I have more of Eva's lineage than Albert's... tho I am working on him too!!! Please write me... I'll do my best... [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Flisakowski, Disher, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DFC.2ACE/1458.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Don, I have a very little for the Disher Family. My gg-aunt married into the Disher family. You may view my family tree at http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=august&I11.x=42&I11.y=10 Please email me if you have any more questions after viewing my tree, I would be glad to help if I can. Thanks, Sandi

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DFC.2ACE/1799 Message Board Post: Any information on the Arbush Family Or the Disher Family As I know of it it is in the Stevens Point Wis. area anyone PLEASE

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DFC.2ACE/1458.1 Message Board Post: Sandi Do you know anything about the DISHER's ??

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DFC.2ACE/51.465.1 Message Board Post: My grandfather was John Czappa. He was born in 1883 and died in 1953. I don't know a lot about the family but I do know he had 11 brothers and sisters. The brothers were Frank & Peter. THe sisters were Mary (Marcoux), Salma (Westnick) Julia (Bronk), Clara (Fedrich), Helen (Radtke) and Nancy (Willman). We got these names from the obit when he passed away. He was married to Pauline Pataska. Julia had a daughter Dorothy (Matthews). This adds up to only 9 but we do not know the other 2. John's father was John Czappa born in 1851, died in 1905. Most of my dad's aunt's & unclle's lived in the Milwaukee area which is why we don't know much about them. I would appreciate any further info you could provide us with. I just started getting into this research and am really getting confused with where to go and how to get back to where I have been. I thought my first name was unique within the family but have now found out there are 2 ancestors with the same name. I was told! I was named after my mothers sister Julia and my dads sister-in-law Anna.