Okie dokie...so who ever wrote that he reigned in 1438 was nuts.... if you read that sheet I sent you with his black and white arms on it.. it says that about the 1438...and I can not for the life of me find any one that fits that date and still fits the info... Kewl.. Thanks I can go forward with this then... Hugs Cuz Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Alban" <davidvi@uslink.net> To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [WINN] Owen Gwynedd dates?? > Becky, > Sir John Wynn has in his book - at the back - some descendent charts. > He records Owain Gwynedd's death as 1170. Aren't we lucky to get two > dates within a year of each other???? > Vi > > The Thill Group Inc wrote: > > >Dear Myles or someone..... > >Owen Gwynedd that they are speaking of below [in *** marks].... was that the > >one that was born abt 1100 and died December 1169..... or not... someone > >noted that he was prince in 1438 so that doesn't work.... can't find my > >notes can someone help? > >*** > >Wynn of Gwydyr, co. Carnarvon, Wales > > > >NOTE:..Baronet, extinct 1719. Descended through JOHN WYNN AP MEREDITH, of > >Gwydyr, and RODERICK, Lord of Anglesey, from OWEN GWYNEDD, Prince of North > >Wales. > >**** > > > >Cause one of the two are the one that used the following Arms... > >The heraldic blazon: > >Arms: Vert, three eagles displayed in fess. > >Crest: An eagle displayed. > >Arms description: On a green background, there are three gold eagles > >arranged in a horizontal line > > > > > >ttg-inc@comcast.net > >http://www.ttg-inc.net > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ > > > > > > > > > > > >