There are several reasons I've heard. One of the reasons is that it was a family name, originally spelled Mynor. This family can be traced in England. There are some theories that say an Elizabeth Mynor married into the Wynne family. This has never been proven. However, I will say that it isn't until immediately after this supposed marriage that the name Minor begins appearing in the Wynne family line. For us amature genealogists, we like this theory. For the pros, it drives them nuts because there isn't proof. -----Original Message----- From: Myles Johnson [mailto:mylesj@his.com] Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 2:34 PM To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WINN] Descendants of John Winn Hi Jack, Which shows what I know (or don't know) about other Wynne lines! Has anyone said why the name Minor appears in this family? Might it relate to an earlier link back in England? Am I right that there has not been any sign of a link between the Minor Winn of upper VA and Col. Robert's line? Myles Johnson ******************************************************* jwynn@mindspring.com wrote: > > Myles; > > There were at least five "Minor" Wynnes in Robert's line: > > Minor Wynne, son of William & 2nd wife, Phillis Marr Wynne Minor R. > Wynne, son of Matthew & Susannah Sammons Wynne Minor Darius Wynne, son > of Robert & Matilda Gartrell Wynne Minor Clark Wynne, son of Thomas > Peery & Lucinda Ford Wynne Minor Wynn who left a will in GA but I've > not been able to attach him yet > + a couple of others with middle names "Minor" > > Jack > > >Hi Barbara, > >Since Minor is not in my line, I've never really reearched him, and > >can't help with your question. > > > >But if the Stith's are involved, the Winn/Wynne would be from the > >family of Col. Robert Wynne of Chas. City & Pr. Gro. Co. I don't > >think Minor has ever been linked to that line > >at all. There are many publ. about Col. Robert's large family. > > > >Good luck. > > > >Myles Johnson > > > >************************************************* > > > >Barbara & Tom Fifer wrote: > >> > >> Thanks, Miles, for the input - I need all the help I can get! > >> > >> Now the question has changed - do you show any Winn/Wynn familes > >>in Prince George Co VA of the time frame to have fathered (or > >>grandfathered) a daughter (or granddaughter) born cir 1723-1728 (I > >>have seen her birth listed as 1723 and I have seen it listed as > >>1728. > >> > >> Since she named one of her sons Stith I feel that it's likely she > >>was related in some way to the Stith family. Do you have anybody > >>listed that might be a lead - possible parents, grandparents, > >>siblings, cousins, uncles, whatevers, family pets (well I guess you > >>can omit the family pets - that would be asking for a bit much!). > >> > >> Thanks! Barb > >> (All cuz's please answer - not just Miles!) > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Myles Johnson > >> To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com > >> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:03 AM > >> Subject: Re: [WINN] Descendants of John Winn > >> > >> Hi, > >> I can't help responding to this. > >> > >> This is, in my opinion, a fictional family. There is no proof > >>that the John Winn recorded > >> as a headright in Westmoreland Co. in 1657, and who appears in > >>only three other > >> Westmoreland records in 1669-71, ever married Elizabeth Minor. > >>This John was almost > >> certainly not born as early as 1627. No record shows him > >>connected to any family at all. > >> The alleged and often-cited marriage was a speculation made to > >>'explain' another guess -- > >> that the well-doc Minor Winn was the son of John Winn. > >> [See W. Avery Miner, Desc. of John Minor (1983). Read the source > >>notes (last page). Miner > >> is usually given as the source for this marr. info but he > >>clearly got it from a "Mary Ann > >> Connolly" -- who in fact donated a copy of Miner's book to the > >>LDS Library -- in undoc > >> group sheets from the old Wynne Family & Kinsmen Assn. The > >>reader is referred to Denis > >> Wynn for info. Other early sources cite the above explanation.] > >> > >> Similarly with the alleged sons of this marriage. There is no > >>doc that ties any of them to > >> either John or Elizabeth. They are just men named Winn/Wynne who > >>appear in early Va. > >> records. Finding no parents for any of them, they have been > >>assigned by careless writers > >> to John & Eliz. > >> > >> It really is time to get rid of this myth and start trying to > >>actually locate the parents > >> of these men. If you have traced your line back to any of them, > >>please consider doing so. > >> Whoever their parents were, they were not John Winn & Eliz. Minor. > >> John was at least 60 years old when Eliz.'s father, John Minor, > >>named her in his will as > >> still "Elizabeth Minor" in 1698. Given the ages of her older > >>brothers, she was prob. still > >> a minor (no pun) in 1698. This May-December alleged marriage is > >>made further unlikely > >> because John Minor was a wealthy, prominent man whereas there is > >>not even any evidence > >> that John Winn ever owned anything. Most of the men claimed as > >>sons to John Winn seem to > >> have started life with some property or means, but it could not > >>have come from John. > >> > >> The Winn-Minor marriage myth has lasted because there has been > >>no other apparent > > > explanation for the name 'Minor' appearing later. But the Minor > >family was a fairly > >> successful one, both in Eng. and in Va. There must other > >>possible parents for the Minor > >> Winn in 1700's Va. Keep searching, folks. > >> > >> Myles Johnson > >> > >> Barbara & Tom Fifer wrote: > >> > > >> > Does anyone have the descendants of John Winn and Elizabeth > >>Minor's children as outlined below? > >> > > >> > ELIZABETH8 MINOR (JOHN7, HARRY6 MINORS, WILLIAM5 MINERS, > >>RICHARD4, THOMAS 3, RICHARD2, PHILIP1) was born in Westmoreland Co., > >>VA. She married > >> > JOHN WINN Bef. 1664 in Westmoreland Co., VA. He was born 1627 > >>in Virginia, and died 1694 in Virginia. > >> > > >> > Children of ELIZABETH MINOR and JOHN WINN are: > >> > i. THOMAS9 WINN, b. 1664; d. 10 Oct 1715. > >> > ii. OWEN WINN, b. 1666; d. 17 Apr 1721, Middlesex Co., VA. > >> > iii. MINOR WINN, b. 1668; d. Abt. 1730, Prince William Co., VA. > >> > iv. RICHARD WINN, b. 1670; m. SARAH ?. > >> > v. WILLIAM WINN, b. 1672. > >> > vi. JAMES WINN, b. 1675. > >> > vii. BENJAMIN WINN, b. 1679; d. 1710." > >> > > >> > Thanks so much, Barb > >> > Ever searching for "my" Mary Elizabeth Winn, b 1723-1728 in > >>?Prince George Co VA (she's listed as born in Amelia, however in > >>that time frame Amelia was still Prince George). ______________________________