Dear Myles or someone..... Owen Gwynedd that they are speaking of below [in *** marks].... was that the one that was born abt 1100 and died December 1169..... or not... someone noted that he was prince in 1438 so that doesn't work.... can't find my notes can someone help? *** Wynn of Gwydyr, co. Carnarvon, Wales NOTE:..Baronet, extinct 1719. Descended through JOHN WYNN AP MEREDITH, of Gwydyr, and RODERICK, Lord of Anglesey, from OWEN GWYNEDD, Prince of North Wales. **** Cause one of the two are the one that used the following Arms... The heraldic blazon: Arms: Vert, three eagles displayed in fess. Crest: An eagle displayed. Arms description: On a green background, there are three gold eagles arranged in a horizontal line ttg-inc@comcast.net http://www.ttg-inc.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/

Becky, Sir John Wynn has in his book - at the back - some descendent charts. He records Owain Gwynedd's death as 1170. Aren't we lucky to get two dates within a year of each other???? Vi The Thill Group Inc wrote: >Dear Myles or someone..... >Owen Gwynedd that they are speaking of below [in *** marks].... was that the >one that was born abt 1100 and died December 1169..... or not... someone >noted that he was prince in 1438 so that doesn't work.... can't find my >notes can someone help? >*** >Wynn of Gwydyr, co. Carnarvon, Wales > >NOTE:..Baronet, extinct 1719. Descended through JOHN WYNN AP MEREDITH, of >Gwydyr, and RODERICK, Lord of Anglesey, from OWEN GWYNEDD, Prince of North >Wales. >**** > >Cause one of the two are the one that used the following Arms... >The heraldic blazon: >Arms: Vert, three eagles displayed in fess. >Crest: An eagle displayed. >Arms description: On a green background, there are three gold eagles >arranged in a horizontal line > > >ttg-inc@comcast.net >http://www.ttg-inc.net >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ > > > > >

Hi Becky, This 'Wynn of Gwydyr co, Carnarvon)' description can be found, word for word, in Sir Bernard Burke's "The General Armory of Eng., Scot., Ire., & Wales" (1884). These are the arms & crest reserved for the first sons of all the generations desc. in a straightline from Owen Gwynedd. The Baronetcy is the one granted Sir John Wynne and that expired with the death of his grandson, John Wynne, who bequeathed his estate to Ssir Watkin Williams (related thru his mother, Jane Thelwell) who then adopted the surname 'Wynn'. Sir W.Wm.s Wynne lived at Wattstay, and renamed it 'Wynstay'. Myles Johnson ************************************************************ The Thill Group Inc wrote: > > Dear Myles or someone..... > Owen Gwynedd that they are speaking of below [in *** marks].... was that the > one that was born abt 1100 and died December 1169..... or not... someone > noted that he was prince in 1438 so that doesn't work.... can't find my > notes can someone help? > *** > Wynn of Gwydyr, co. Carnarvon, Wales > > NOTE:..Baronet, extinct 1719. Descended through JOHN WYNN AP MEREDITH, of > Gwydyr, and RODERICK, Lord of Anglesey, from OWEN GWYNEDD, Prince of North > Wales. > **** > > Cause one of the two are the one that used the following Arms... > The heraldic blazon: > Arms: Vert, three eagles displayed in fess. > Crest: An eagle displayed. > Arms description: On a green background, there are three gold eagles > arranged in a horizontal line > > ttg-inc@comcast.net > http://www.ttg-inc.net > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/

Dear Myles, And his birth and death? Cuz B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myles Johnson" <mylesj@his.com> To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [WINN] Owen Gwynedd dates?? > Hi Becky, > This 'Wynn of Gwydyr co, Carnarvon)' description can be found, word for word, in Sir > Bernard Burke's "The General Armory of Eng., Scot., Ire., & Wales" (1884). These are the > arms & crest reserved for the first sons of all the generations desc. in a straightline > from Owen Gwynedd. The Baronetcy is the one granted Sir John Wynne and that expired with > the death of his grandson, John Wynne, who bequeathed his estate to Ssir Watkin Williams > (related thru his mother, Jane Thelwell) who then adopted the surname 'Wynn'. Sir W.Wm.s > Wynne lived at Wattstay, and renamed it 'Wynstay'. > > Myles Johnson > > ************************************************************ > The Thill Group Inc wrote: > > > > Dear Myles or someone..... > > Owen Gwynedd that they are speaking of below [in *** marks].... was that the > > one that was born abt 1100 and died December 1169..... or not... someone > > noted that he was prince in 1438 so that doesn't work.... can't find my > > notes can someone help? > > *** > > Wynn of Gwydyr, co. Carnarvon, Wales > > > > NOTE:..Baronet, extinct 1719. Descended through JOHN WYNN AP MEREDITH, of > > Gwydyr, and RODERICK, Lord of Anglesey, from OWEN GWYNEDD, Prince of North > > Wales. > > **** > > > > Cause one of the two are the one that used the following Arms... > > The heraldic blazon: > > Arms: Vert, three eagles displayed in fess. > > Crest: An eagle displayed. > > Arms description: On a green background, there are three gold eagles > > arranged in a horizontal line > > > > ttg-inc@comcast.net > > http://www.ttg-inc.net > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ > >