Myles, In your message to Becky you wrote: I don't know of any other subscriber to this Winn-L list who desc. from this John Wynne of York Co. What state are you referring to concerning your John Wynne of York County? Joyce Original Message: ----------------- From: Myles Johnson mylesj@his.com Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:30:11 -0500 To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WINN] John Winn of Westmoreland Hi Becky, The fact is that the this marriage was was never proved. The burden of proof is on the assertion. Until a proposed event is proved or reasonably argued for, it should not be used, except as speculation -- which is where this Winn-Minor marriage started. Later, as is always the case, it got taken as fact, not a guess, and now has a life of its own which well-nigh inextinguishable -- a prime example of the dangers of publishing unproven "facts". Re Wynne-Hines: I think one of the versions floating around uses this but it is all wrong. The Wynne-Hines marriage actually comes from my own family's info -- gen. info sent to Edmund J. Cleveland by my gr-gr-GM, M.E.C. Wynne and publ. by him in "The Cleveland Genealogy" (1899). But it was a John Wynne who she said m. "Dorothea Vines or Hinds". This John Wynne was "from Sir Thomas Wynne descended" --- not clearly a son, poss. grandson. Since this is my direct line, I have been seeking some doc. proof of this for some 20 years, without success. As far as I can tell, this 'Sir Thomas - John m. Hinds/Vines' version was entered into Virkus' Compendium of unproven gens., was passed on to W.W. Smith and Mame E. Wood, who grafted it onto their speculations, and thence to an unknown number of family trees. My current theory -- no more than that -- is that my Wynne immigrant was Thomas Wynne, son of a Thomas Wynne, a Turkey merchant from Shrewsbury. His family is the one given by Anne Fremantle in "The Wynne Diaries", but we know nothing about who or how many chn. this immigrant Thomas may have had. He could not have arr. Va. before 1640, nor do we know whom he marr. One has to skip a gen. before coming to my 1st proven Wynne, John Wynne of York Co. (1705?-1772). I don't know of any other subscriber to this Winn-L list who desc. from this John Wynne of York Co.. If there is, please let me know. Myles Johnson -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .