myles: I too have been into hard research on Robert Wynne the mayor, who married Francis Wattmer. I know for a fact that he is not the son of sir john wynne. I am still digging around his birth place of old salop (shrewsbury)shropshire uk to find his parents. I have a story of him being the son of another robert who was the son of morys (morus)(maurice) by morys 3rd marriage to katherine of berain. All of this cannot be authenticated yet, but I am still trying with some contacts back in the uk. thanx HERB