Hello Robert We would love to help and figure out which Winn's are yours in Kentucky. That is an area where we need help with identification. I am kind of lost with your e-mail. Who was the immigrant to Kentucky? John born 1809??? You know about the Churchill Downs Winn, Matt/Martin son of Patrick. Then we have all of our winn lines coming through Kentucky at some point. Many of them intermarry. Any info that can help to identify any Winn line in Kentucky from UK is WONDERFUL and one of us may have info from UK. Connie Connie

Hello Connie, Should have read this message first. I probably have answered your questions in the other message. But I will see if what I have to add is helpful. I do not know if John was first in his line of Winn's to come to America. For the most part John worked in the coal mines in the New Castle on the Tyne area in several locations. From a conversation I had with several men at a Pub in Seaton Delaval north of New Castle John must has been in management at the coal mine there. The reasoning being that he lived in Foreman's Row (Row Houses) Considering his position as a Coal Weyher I suspect the man was right. The Pub we were in was at the end of where the Row houses were located but had been taken down in the 1950s. I know that John's sister Mary Johnson came in 1880 and died only six years later. If there were others in his family that came to America I have not located them as yet. In reading some of your groups messages it appears that there were some Winns that served in the Rev. War in Virginia. I have some ancestors that were patriots who lived in the Halifax/Pittsylvania, VA area, but they were not Winn's. My Winn line is the most recent arrivals to America. The rest of my lines have been here back to the 1600s. I understand you have a DNA project going. I have been working with a group of Morefield's who have talked about doing a DNA test for our connections. If I did one for them would it work also for the Winns? Or would that have to be a separate test. Meanwhile back to KY. John Winn arrived in KY at Hancock county some time in the 1850s and left during the Civil War. John's Son Robert was in the medical part with the Union Army. Hawesville/Hancock/Kentucky was a Confederate town and John has a daughter who made a union flag and raised it in the town square. The town did not take kindly to this and the family was warned to leave. They did and moved to Du Quoin/Perry/Illinois. John lived into his 80s and his son George was almost 95 when he died. I remember George as he was the only grandfather I ever saw. Does this help any at all? Bob Morefield Murphysboro, IL --- On Fri, 11/6/09, GramereC@aol.com <GramereC@aol.com> wrote: > From: GramereC@aol.com <GramereC@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [WINN] Gwynedd > To: winn@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 7:38 AM > Hello Robert > > We would love to help and figure out which Winn's are yours > in Kentucky.  > That is an area where we need help with identification. I > am kind of lost > with  your e-mail. Who was the immigrant to Kentucky? > John born 1809??? You > know about  the Churchill Downs Winn, Matt/Martin son > of Patrick. Then we have > all of our  winn lines coming through Kentucky at some > point. Many of them > intermarry. > > Any info that can help to identify any Winn line in > Kentucky from UK is  > WONDERFUL and one of us may have info from UK. > > Connie > > Connie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >