Does this seem odd to anyone else? That is, that the the Winn family would begin using the name "Minor" for generation after generation when that name was the married name of Elizabeth? Also, the dates of births for Elizebeth Stuarts kids by William Minor are after her marriage to John Winn. The one thing that does cause a real problem is that we have often assumed that John married Elizabeth Minor based solely on the fact that there was an Elizabeth Minor in VA at the time John lived there. If we now know that this Elizabeth Minor was married to William Minor and had kids by him around 1707, then this Elizabeth Minor could not have been also married to John Winn. Very interesting. -----Original Message----- From: EAFerguson@aol.com [mailto:EAFerguson@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 8:24 PM To: WINN-D@rootsweb.com Subject: John Winn -Elizabeth Minor I just got this from a Minor family researcher. Maybe it will help with the Minor- Winn connection. Has anybody heard that Elizabeth Minor was a widow before? I've asked for documentation and will post what I get here. This came from Curtis Minor, e-mail com9600@aaahawk.com if any of you want to contact him direct. Earl "When I said that I was not aware of any Winn's in my search I was speaking of England. "I know there is a Winn connection in Virginia but after searching it may be that a Winn married an Elizabeth Minor (a widow using her husbands name and therefore no blood connection to the Minors). Her maiden name appears to be Elizabeth Stuart and John Winn married Elizabeth Stuart Minor (a widow). But of course you are in a better position to search this out than I am. "I will send you what I have and am referring to I think the original writer should have used full names. I first thought that Elizabeth Minor was a daughter of William Minor but none is present here and therefore my conclusion. "Keep in touch anyway, we are probably long lost cousins somewhere anyway.. Curtis Minor "Children of WILLIAM MINOR and ELIZABETH STUART are: <A HREF="http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/a/u/Michelle-J-Taunton/GE NE11-0003.html#CHILD5">5.</A> i.   JOHN9 MINOR II, b. Aft. 1707, Cople Parish, Westmoreland Co., VA; d. Bef. 25 Oct 1748, Montross, Westmoreland Co., VA.   ii.   NICHOLAS MINOR, b. Aft. 1707, Cople Parish, Westmoreland Co., VA; m. JEMIMA SPENCE.   iii.   WILLIAM MINOR, b. Aft. 1707, Cople Parish, Westmoreland Co., VA.   iv.   BARBARA MINOR, b. Aft. 1709, Cople Parish, Westmoreland Co., VA.   v.   JEMIMA MINOR, b. Aft. 1709, Cople Parish, Westmoreland Co., VA. <A HREF="http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/a/u/Michelle-J-Taunton/GE NE11-0003.html#CHILD6">6.</A> vi.   MARY MINOR, b. Abt. 1717, Cople Parish, Westmoreland Co., VA. "3. ELIZABETH8 MINOR (JOHN7, HARRY6 MINORS, WILLIAM5 MINERS, RICHARD4, THOMAS 3, RICHARD2, PHILIP1) was born in Westmoreland Co., VA. She married JOHN WINN Bef. 1664 in Westmoreland Co., VA. He was born 1627 in Virginia, and died 1694 in Virginia.       Children of E style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZLIZABETH MINOR and JOHN WINN are:   i.   THOMAS9 WINN, b. 1664; d. 10 Oct 1715.   ii.   OWEN WINN, b. 1666; d. 17 Apr 1721, Middlesex Co., VA. <A HREF="http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/a/u/Michelle-J-Taunton/GE NE11-0003.html#CHILD7">7.</A> iii.   MINOR WINN, b. 1668; d. Abt. 1730, Prince William Co., VA.   iv.   RICHARD WINN, b. 1670; m. SARAH ?.   v.   WILLIAM WINN, b. 1672.   vi.   JAMES WINN, b. 1675.   vii.   BENJAMIN WINN, b. 1679; d. 1710." ______________________________