Thanks Deanna That is pretty much what I have also. I guess what we are saying is that William Winn father of Martha is the same as William Winn married to Rosa Hampton so he must have been married to Ann Lignan first???? Matthew Smith husband of Martha Winn should be the son of John Smith and Mary Jaquelin. This makes me skeptical that we are looking at William son of Minor. There might be two William Winn's and we are compacting them and merging them here into one. Matthew Smith died in Germantown 1777. Connie Cole