Hi All, Becky has distributed a copy of the pedigree from Ann Fremantle's The Wynne Diaries, but there is some additional info you may find of interest. If you discard the reference at the top to John Wynne being a brother to Richard Wynne [II], the rest of the chart is accurate. Down in the middle of the chart, off to the left side, you will find one "Giustiniana Wynne", dau. of Richard Wynne [IV], b.1744. If you don't already recognize the name you should check out either 'The New Yorker' Aug. 18 & 25, 2003 issue for an article by Andrea di Robilant, the author of a recently published book title "A Venetian Affair". This book is the latest addition to a long-running story about Giustiniana, her long & troubled love affair with a Venetian gent, Andra Memmo, and her involvement with Casanova -- She was called "Mlle. XCV" in his 'Memoirs'. This story began with a book by B. Brunelli, "Casanova Loved Her" (1929) which was based largely on a set of letters from Giustiniana to her lover, Memmo. Then, in 1955, J. Rives Childs found a second bathc of these letters and published a book "Justienne" in 1959; He revised it later as "Casanova: A New Perspective" (1988). Now comes di Robilant, a desc. of Andrea Memmo, who found even more letters and has published a very interesting account of the whole story. Richard Wynne [IV], father of Giustiniana, had become a very rich man as this Shrewsbury Wynne family had prospered greatly in England's booming international trade enterprises. But Richard's first wife died, leaving him distraught and childless. He left England for Europe and came to Venice where he met, supposedly via a gondolier, a pretty young Greek-Italian woman, Anna Gazzini. The result was a daughter, Giustiniana, who was legitimized when Richard marr. Anna, and went on to produce four more chn. Giustiniana was reportedly a beauty and a charmer and while still under 20 had begun the secretive affair with Memmo. They could not marry because of objections from both families, but corresponded secretly over many years, even thru the times when Anna took the family to England to establish her right to their inheritance after the death of Richard Wynne [IV]. The latest book is a fascinating tale of the life and times of these families. Tho Giustiniana never married Memmo, she did marry an aged Austrian diplomat, Count von Rosenberg, but the old Count could never prove the Wynne's claim to English or Welsh nobility, and therefore, Giustiniana was never accepted at the Austrian court. Therein lies an important fact: Altho this Montgomeryshire Wynne line repeatedly claimed the right to bear the arms of 'three eagles in fesse' of Owain Gwynedd, they neve succeeded in proving their claim. If they couldn't do it back in the 18th cent., it would be most hard for us to do so now. But Giustiniana soldiered on and made a good name for herself as a writer, finally returning to Venice, where she died in 1791. J. Rives Childs, who was an American Foreign Service Officer for whom writing was a hobby, tried to trace the footsteps of the Thomas Wynne (shown on the chart) who came to Va. "and had issue". He reported on this in an article -- Va. Mag. of Hist & Biog., v.72 'The Wynne Family of Gwydir and Va.' -- but got confused by the lack of much info in Va. about Wynnes other than the line of Col. Robert Wynne, so never could get a handle on the problem. By the way, Thomas' coming to Va. is "proved" in the acceptance of The College of Arms of the family's statement. Myles Johnson

I would love a copy of the excel chart, if possible. Melanie