Marilyn- What Myles mentions in "Mythtakes" is just a small part of the entire collection. Much of the collection Myles references have been rendered to pdf file format. For example I scanned Dwnn's Heraldic "Visitations of Wales and part of the Marches" some years ago and it is over 800 pages and many megabytes (now it is accessible in low resolution on Google). If there is anything you find that you especially need I may be of some help with? My interest is primarily with English and Welsh Wynne records where Myles is the expert on Virginia Wynne and Gwydir Wynn lines. Over the years I have accumulated a number of 17th century Wynne wills and land patents (all spellings). Some have been transcribed others not as they do not pertain to a Virginia emigrant. The original Wynne wills are copyrighted by the PRO and so are not legally able to be distributed. If you search for Wynne at the PRO website and A2A you will discover hundreds of 17th century Wynne's (all spellings) who must be regarded as potential ancestors for some of us American Wynne's. There is also a massive collection of Wynne's in Sir Percival Boyd's "Brides & Grooms" for many of the counties in England some of whom are no doubt related to American Wynne's. In the last few messages I note references to "The Complete Book of Emigrants" by Peter Wilson Coldham. I do not believe Peter W. Coldham has compiled what can be regarded as a "complete book of emigrants" as there are at least four other books dealing with emigrants for the same period not otherwise covered in Coldhams original book. Also, since his first publication on the subject Coldham has been adding to his original work and new English port book records continue to be discovered followed by new publications of emigrants. Here I would add it is virtually impossible for a male in direct bloodline descent from Sir John Wynn of Gwydir to have ever immigrated to the colonies. Though, interestingly Sir Owen Wynn did for a time have a custodial responsibility in Virginia, there is no proof he ever came to Virginia or as they say 'lived, married and left issue'. -Robert -----Original Message----- From: winn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:winn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT CAPPS Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:41 PM To: winn@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WINN] A Gwynne/Winn Situation for Myles Myles, I just wish that you would get everything you have an publish it. Of couse I would really like for you to find my George Winn (married to Rose Bush). I still think he fell from the sky and landed in NC (still can't prove he was in VA.) Thanks for keeping everything straight. Marilyn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cousins, Here is a write-up that seems interesting--academically addressing the advent of Minor's in America/Virginia. I've had it awhile, don't know where I got it and only just read it. I haven't look at any of the sources. Does anyone know who wrote this and what book they refer to at the end? I'd like to give them credit and follow up on this as it applies to my site and goes towards characterizing the immigration of our family Has anyone got copies of the pages reference within? I'd sure like to put them on my site where appropriate. Does anyone familiar with Dutch culture in the 17th century? What I wonder at is why would this Maindort Doodes call out his son as Doodes Minor and then him use Minor as a last name? Thank you, Randy C. Smart ----------------------- Confusion over Lineage of the Minor Line - Author Unknown I believe the basis for the John Winn and Elizabeth Minor marriage is that it was known that John Winn married one Elizabeth Minor. This comes from an article title, John Minor of Westmoreland County, Virginia (no author given). It states in part, "It is only known that John Winn married an Elizabeth Minor and because Elizabeth daughter of John Minor (Will of 1698) was the only Elizabeth Minor in that area at that time, she is believed to be the one." This genealogy begins by saying ''John Minor born in England, believed to be son of Ann and Harry Mynors of Garway, England. Immigrated to Virginia prior to 1627 with his widowed mother, and sister, Jane Kidwalider, wife of John Kidwalider." The Complete Book of Emigrants, by Peter Coldham, which covers the period between 1607-1660 of Virginia, does not list any Minor (any spelling) having came to Virginia during that period. Neither does it list a Jane and John Kidwalider. It does list (page 465) a Jane and John Kidwillar. Dated 1 Aug 1660. ''The following bound to John Woory, merchant to serve in Nevis, John Kidwillar, yeoman for 5 years. Jane Kidwillar, spinster for 5 years." It is difficult to believe had the Minors been in Virginia prior to 1627 that they would have not showed up in some of the many records covered in this book. Richard Winn's (son of John Winn and Elizabeth Minor) children were born in Middlesex County. My point is, doesn't it seem possible that Elizabeth Minor could have been the daughter of many of the other Minors in that area of Middlesex? There was a family of Minors who settled there ca 1673. Ref: John B Minor, The Minor Family of Virginia (1923) In his preface he states,"In an old Bible which belonged to my father Dr. Charles Minor, and which is now in my possession, he wrote the following memorandum in 1853". (And here I will not take word for word--just the high points.) "Dr. Charles Minor and all his kindred are descend from a Dutchman named Doodes Minor who was admitted to full citizenship in 1673 by an act of Assembly found in Hennings Statutes at Large, v.1 308. Along with four other compatriots, Maindort Doodes and his son Doodes Minor were Naturalized by an act of a Grand Assembly, holden in James City the 12 Sept. 1673. They were to have all rights and privileges including those of free traffique and trading that were allowed to any natural b. Englishman of the Colony. Maindort Doodes made his will in 1677 signed his name Maindort Doodes and named his son as Doodes Minor. There are some who believe Doodes Minor was an Englishman, but if so why should he be naturalized when coming to an English colony as Virginia was at that time. Maindort Doodes, a Dutch Sea Captain. His will was sealed with his signet ring bearing the impress of a Dutch Ship of the 17th Century. Doodes Minor, who married Elizabeth Cocke, settled on the Rappahannock and its waters in County of Middlesex. He had four sons, Garret Minor, Minor Minor, John Minor, and Peter Minor. Doodes son Peter was apprenticed by his mother Mrs. Elizabeth Minor to a Boston ship Capt John Phillips in 1677. He afterwards ran away from his Master and never came home. A letter from him to his brother Garret, written at Rotterdam, was in possession, I think of the second Garret's son Samuel 0. Minor. I once made a copy of this letter which was burned by a kinswoman, disliking the humble life in which it exhibited her collateral Ancestors. This book traces the desc. of Garrett Minor.

Seeking death date of Mary nee Cossins Winn b. 1796 Cold Kirby Yorkshire Eng. who married Thomas E Winn on 20 May 1823 Cowesby, Yorkshire Eng. Thomas born 26 June 1794 Cold Kirby. They had 6 children: Rachel, Alice, Dawson, Elisabeth, Ann, Benjamin. In June 1839 they arrived in U. S. sailing from Liverpool to Philadelphia on the Ship Chevalier. They were in Morgan Co OH where Rachel, Alice and Elizabeth married. Have that info and baptismal dates for all six. Have census records, but no further info on wife Mary after 1840 census. It is said that she died in Morgan Co, OH in 1848 but no documents or info has been found on that subject. Last son - Benjamin - born 1836 in Cold Kirby is seen on the 1850 census Windsor Twp, Morgan Co OH at age 14, but nothing after that. Have info on others, their marriages, children, obits,descendants and census records. Mary Cossins was dtr of Benjamin Cossisn 1761/1836 and Rachel Chapman 1763/1832. Do not have much more than this on Mary except her siblings. If you have info on this family would be glad to share my info and documents and pictures with you . Thanks, Virginia M WINN Parker winngen7391@aol.com

Valerie Good to hear from you. Any Winn cousins want to try and locate this cemetery?? Connie

Hi, I am Valerie Winn, and I do live in Sumner Co., TN.  Wynnewood is coming along with the restoration. It is a slow process, but they are doing a good job.  My gg grandfather also had a home in Gallatin (Sumner Co.,).  His name was Mourning Winn, father of Hiram Lewis Winn, father of Warner Albert Winn, father of William Buford, Homer Powell, Lewis Albert, Howard Runyon, Sarah Ellen (Terry), Betty Ruth (Stannard), Martha Louise (Lewis).  I am the daughter of Betty Ruth Winn.  There is a Winn cemetery on Mourning Winn's farm, but I haven't been able to get the county to try to find it. ----- Original Message ----- From: winn-request@rootsweb.com To: winn@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:01:38 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: WINN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 144 Today's Topics:    1. Re: Gwynedd (Don Winn)    2. Re: Gwynedd (Brian Winn)    3. Where I'm Coming From (Randy)    4. Re: Where I'm Coming From (Karen Coombs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:51:14 -0600 From: "Don Winn" <donwinn@nctc.com> Subject: Re: [WINN] Gwynedd To: <winn@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1C28E2C163C9446FB05E8B749B9672F2@Dadsemachine> Content-Type: text/plain;        charset="us-ascii" There is a company in Columbia, TN that has recently published a book about the Winn family.  An order blank can be found at www.winndata.com WINN-DANIEL AND HIS 9 SONS I have ordered a copy of the book but have not received it at this time. Price is $38.00 for non-Tennessee or non-Georgia residents. Columbia in Maury County, TN is where General Richard Winn settled and died. Another Wynne, Alfred Royal Wynne, lived in Sumner County, TN near Castalian Springs.  A. R. Wynne built the largest log home in Tennessee, and it served as a stage coach stop and inn--the home is call Wynnewood and is presently owned by the state of Tennessee.  Wynnewood was heavily damaged by a tornado on Feb. 5, 2008.  Some of this Wynne family are buried at Cragfont, the home of General James Winchester, just about 5 miles from Wynnewood.  The two families were related through marriage of children.   Don -----Original Message----- From: winn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:winn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GramereC@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:36 AM To: winn@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WINN] Gwynedd Sheri Lets see who chimes in. Which way are you looking in Tennessee?? Connie   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:14:16 -0800 From: "Brian Winn" <brian_winn@winnlawgroup.com> Subject: Re: [WINN] Gwynedd To: <winn@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <011301ca66f9$5f84a9a0$1e8dfce0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain;        charset="us-ascii" I have purchased the Winn-Daniel book and just the portions that deal with my proveable Winn family make this a very worth-while purchase. Highly recommended Btrian Winn -----Original Message----- From: winn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:winn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Don Winn Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:51 AM To: winn@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WINN] Gwynedd There is a company in Columbia, TN that has recently published a book about the Winn family.  An order blank can be found at www.winndata.com WINN-DANIEL AND HIS 9 SONS I have ordered a copy of the book but have not received it at this time. Price is $38.00 for non-Tennessee or non-Georgia residents. Columbia in Maury County, TN is where General Richard Winn settled and died. Another Wynne, Alfred Royal Wynne, lived in Sumner County, TN near Castalian Springs.  A. R. Wynne built the largest log home in Tennessee, and it served as a stage coach stop and inn--the home is call Wynnewood and is presently owned by the state of Tennessee.  Wynnewood was heavily damaged by a tornado on Feb. 5, 2008.  Some of this Wynne family are buried at Cragfont, the home of General James Winchester, just about 5 miles from Wynnewood.  The two families were related through marriage of children.   Don -----Original Message----- From: winn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:winn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GramereC@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:36 AM To: winn@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WINN] Gwynedd Sheri Lets see who chimes in. Which way are you looking in Tennessee?? Connie   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:11 -0800 From: "Randy" <rsmart@wavecable.com> Subject: [WINN] Where I'm Coming From To: "WINN-L" <WINN@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <36F98A271DA74A05B1CF2ABF97377925@WORKSTATION> Content-Type: text/plain;        charset="Windows-1252" Cousins, I've been asked repeatedly which line is mine. To provide that information the best way I have found to do it, I have put this page on the Internet: http://www.ancestor-rescue.com/Winn/originsDirect.htm I would be particularly interested in finding out what others have documented on these families and working with them on documenting them. I have looked at what is available via Google and will continue to search there. Be advised that much of my Winn ancestry is currently under revision this Winter. I started this genealogy with the J. Winn manuscript from the 1930s. I have made many additions and changes but didn't do a very good job of documenting things. I am now fully appreciative of the value of documentation. I hope to become increasingly savvy at documenting family history and to be able to incorporate that into this website.   Thanks for your support, Randy C. Smart ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:09:46 -0700 From: "Karen Coombs" <kcoombs@sbtnet.com> Subject: Re: [WINN] Where I'm Coming From To: "'Randy'" <rsmart@ancestor-rescue.com>, <winn@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000501ca6711$e3a2c240$aae846c0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain;        charset="iso-8859-1" I am including information I have found for Hugh Winn while researching in the Family History Library in Salt Lake City.  I have included the sources so you can included the information on your website if you wish. A brief summary--entries and sources below. Hugh Wynn 1.  settled on Isle of Wight Co. 2.  arrived in the George in 1621 with Captain William Pierce. 3.  30 years old in 1621 4.  Married Elizabeth -- probably after he arrives 5.  Land grand 1 Mar 1640 700 acres sold 350 acres to William Yarrett 21 Jul 1644 6.  Land grand 200 acres 2 Oct 1637 7.  Elizabeth Executrix to his will on 23 Mar 1654 - court land proceeding Fact #2 William Spencer, of James Island within the Corp. of James Citty, Yeoman, 250 acs. on the W. side of Lawnes Cr. at the mouth, 9 Sep 1632, p. 120. Extending up the Cr. S. W.; 50 acs. accrewing due in the right of James Tooke whoe came in the George 1621 the charges of whose passage he defrayed unto William Dum (?), carpenter, of the sd shipp; 100 acs in the right of Hugh Wynn & Robert Latchett whoe both came in the George 1621 at the charges of Capt. William Pierce whoe in open Ct. hath transferred the land accrewing by vertue of their passage unto sd. William Spencer; 50 acrs. In right of James Robinson whoe came in the Charitie whose passage sd Spencer defrayed unto Mr. Weston, Merchant of the sd shipp; & 50 acs. In right of Joseph Deane whoe came in the Abigall 1622 whose passage sd Spencer defrayed unto John Tooke, marriner. Patent Book #1 Cavaliers and Pioneers--Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants 1623-1666, Nell Marion Nugent, Genealogical Publishing Co. 1963 975.5 R2n v. 1 Fact #3 Wing, Hugh, 1620 voyage, aged 30 at muster at Mulburie Island as servant to Capt William Pierce, January 25, 1624.   This entry were obtained from my Hotten book 8a from the Musters of the Inhabitants in Virginia 1624/1625 chapters, pages 201 thru 265, which lists the muster captain, and what ship the individual arrived on.  8. "Original Lists of Persons of Quality, 1600-1700" by John Camden Hotten, published by Genealogical Publishing Society Co, Inc., 1983. 8a. John Camden Hotten: London, 1874. Reprint by Empire State Book Co., New York. Publish date guessed to be int he 1940's. (in Lady Anne's library) Fact #5 Pg. 107 14 Mar 1646 William Yarrett of Isle Wight Co. to Thomas Brandwood of London 350 acres (? of 700 acres which was patented by Hugh Winn of Isle of Wight Co. on 1 Mar 1640) bounded by Bennetts Park, Samuel Jackson, Goose Hill Creek and Sewards Creek.  Hugh Winn sold the 350 acres to William Yarrett on 21 Jul 1644.  Wit: Richard Williamson and Thomas Wombwell.  Signed WilliamYarrett  http://www.packrat-pro.com/ships/george1.htm This entry were obtained from my Hotten book 8a from the Musters of the Inhabitants in Virginia 1624/1625 chapters, pages 201 thru 265, which lists the muster captain, and what ship the individual arrived on.  8. "Original Lists of Persons of Quality, 1600-1700" by John Camden Hotten, published by Genealogical Publishing Society Co, Inc., 1983. 8a. John Camden Hotten: London, 1874. Reprint by Empire State Book Co., New York. Publish date guessed to be int he 1940's. (in Lady Anne's library) Fact #6 Hugh Wynn, 200 acr. Isle of Wight Co., 3 Nov. 1637, p. 495.  About 2 mi. up the maine Cr. of the baye of New Towne haven, which land runneth into the woods N.W. & up the Cr. S.W. Trans of 4 pers:  James Robinson, Douglas Clarke, Eliz. Revells, Charles Callahan. Patent Book #1 Cavaliers and Pioneers--Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants 1623-1666, Nell Marion Nugent, Genealogical Publishing Co. 1963 Fact #7 Elizabeth Gwin 700 acres 23 Mar 1654 Due as extra of Hugh Gwin who patented the land 3 Mar 1640. Isle of Wight County, Virginia Deeds 1636-1767 by William Lindsey Hopkins 975.554 R2h v. 1  GEN-N-DEX 1993 Other land entries: 4 Jul 1657 William Yarrett and wife, Margaret Yarrett, to Robert Bird and wife Susannah Bird?all the land on the west side of Goose Hill Creek from a patent of 700 acres which belonged to said Yarrett and Hugh Winn decd, in exchange for 150 acres on the east side of Goose Hill Creek which said Bird bought from said Yarrett and said Winn.  Wit:  William Bracy and Thomas Woodward Rec. 9 Jul 1657 signed William and Margaret Yarrett Isle of Wight Deeds, Wills, Guardian Accounts-Book A 1637-1767 Pg. 55 Haven, near land of Capt. Basse called Cedar Island, now in possession of William Pateford, extending S. toward land of Hugh Wynn & William Taylor. Due to assignment of patent of Samuell Jackson, dated Oct. 10, 1639. Patent Book #1 Cavaliers and Pioneers--Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants 1623-1666, Nell Marion Nugent, Genealogical Publishing Co. 1963 975.5 R2n v. 1 Samuel Jackson, 200 acr., Isle of Wight Co., Oct 11, 1639, page 679.  E. upon Pagan Cr. Or New Towne Haven, near land belonging to Capt. Basse called Cedall Island, now in possession of William Patteford, southerly toward land of Hugh Wynn and William Taylor.  Trans. Of 4 pers: John Prowse, Richard Nicholas, John Grigs, Henry Smith. Patent Book #1 Cavaliers and Pioneers--Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants 1623-1666, Nell Marion Nugent, Genealogical Publishing Co. 1963 975.5 R2n v. 1 2nd Marriage of Elizabeth Wynne after the death of Hugh. Walton John & Mrs. Elizabeth Wynne, R. of Hugh Wynne. 1666 W. & D. B. I. P. 87 Film #962246  Marriage of Isle of Wight Co., 1628 - 1800 Compiled by Blanche Adams Chapman 1933 I found no evidence of Hugh having descendants. Karen Coombs--A Winn Cousin -----Original Message----- From: winn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:winn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Randy Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:34 PM To: WINN-L Subject: [WINN] Where I'm Coming From Cousins, I've been asked repeatedly which line is mine. To provide that information the best way I have found to do it, I have put this page on the Internet: http://www.ancestor-rescue.com/Winn/originsDirect.htm I would be particularly interested in finding out what others have documented on these families and working with them on documenting them. I have looked at what is available via Google and will continue to search there. Be advised that much of my Winn ancestry is currently under revision this Winter. I started this genealogy with the J. Winn manuscript from the 1930s. I have made many additions and changes but didn't do a very good job of documenting things. I am now fully appreciative of the value of documentation. I hope to become increasingly savvy at documenting family history and to be able to incorporate that into this website.   Thanks for your support, Randy C. Smart   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the WINN list administrator, send an email to WINN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the WINN mailing list, send an email to WINN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of WINN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 144 ************************************

I am including information I have found for Hugh Winn while researching in the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. I have included the sources so you can included the information on your website if you wish. A brief summary--entries and sources below. Hugh Wynn 1. settled on Isle of Wight Co. 2. arrived in the George in 1621 with Captain William Pierce. 3. 30 years old in 1621 4. Married Elizabeth -- probably after he arrives 5. Land grand 1 Mar 1640 700 acres sold 350 acres to William Yarrett 21 Jul 1644 6. Land grand 200 acres 2 Oct 1637 7. Elizabeth Executrix to his will on 23 Mar 1654 - court land proceeding Fact #2 William Spencer, of James Island within the Corp. of James Citty, Yeoman, 250 acs. on the W. side of Lawnes Cr. at the mouth, 9 Sep 1632, p. 120. Extending up the Cr. S. W.; 50 acs. accrewing due in the right of James Tooke whoe came in the George 1621 the charges of whose passage he defrayed unto William Dum (?), carpenter, of the sd shipp; 100 acs in the right of Hugh Wynn & Robert Latchett whoe both came in the George 1621 at the charges of Capt. William Pierce whoe in open Ct. hath transferred the land accrewing by vertue of their passage unto sd. William Spencer; 50 acrs. In right of James Robinson whoe came in the Charitie whose passage sd Spencer defrayed unto Mr. Weston, Merchant of the sd shipp; & 50 acs. In right of Joseph Deane whoe came in the Abigall 1622 whose passage sd Spencer defrayed unto John Tooke, marriner. Patent Book #1 Cavaliers and Pioneers--Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants 1623-1666, Nell Marion Nugent, Genealogical Publishing Co. 1963 975.5 R2n v. 1 Fact #3 Wing, Hugh, 1620 voyage, aged 30 at muster at Mulburie Island as servant to Capt William Pierce, January 25, 1624. This entry were obtained from my Hotten book 8a from the Musters of the Inhabitants in Virginia 1624/1625 chapters, pages 201 thru 265, which lists the muster captain, and what ship the individual arrived on. 8. "Original Lists of Persons of Quality, 1600-1700" by John Camden Hotten, published by Genealogical Publishing Society Co, Inc., 1983. 8a. John Camden Hotten: London, 1874. Reprint by Empire State Book Co., New York. Publish date guessed to be int he 1940's. (in Lady Anne's library) Fact #5 Pg. 107 14 Mar 1646 William Yarrett of Isle Wight Co. to Thomas Brandwood of London 350 acres (½ of 700 acres which was patented by Hugh Winn of Isle of Wight Co. on 1 Mar 1640) bounded by Bennetts Park, Samuel Jackson, Goose Hill Creek and Sewards Creek. Hugh Winn sold the 350 acres to William Yarrett on 21 Jul 1644. Wit: Richard Williamson and Thomas Wombwell. Signed WilliamYarrett http://www.packrat-pro.com/ships/george1.htm This entry were obtained from my Hotten book 8a from the Musters of the Inhabitants in Virginia 1624/1625 chapters, pages 201 thru 265, which lists the muster captain, and what ship the individual arrived on. 8. "Original Lists of Persons of Quality, 1600-1700" by John Camden Hotten, published by Genealogical Publishing Society Co, Inc., 1983. 8a. John Camden Hotten: London, 1874. Reprint by Empire State Book Co., New York. Publish date guessed to be int he 1940's. (in Lady Anne's library) Fact #6 Hugh Wynn, 200 acr. Isle of Wight Co., 3 Nov. 1637, p. 495. About 2 mi. up the maine Cr. of the baye of New Towne haven, which land runneth into the woods N.W. & up the Cr. S.W. Trans of 4 pers: James Robinson, Douglas Clarke, Eliz. Revells, Charles Callahan. Patent Book #1 Cavaliers and Pioneers--Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants 1623-1666, Nell Marion Nugent, Genealogical Publishing Co. 1963 Fact #7 Elizabeth Gwin 700 acres 23 Mar 1654 Due as extra of Hugh Gwin who patented the land 3 Mar 1640. Isle of Wight County, Virginia Deeds 1636-1767 by William Lindsey Hopkins 975.554 R2h v. 1 GEN-N-DEX 1993 Other land entries: 4 Jul 1657 William Yarrett and wife, Margaret Yarrett, to Robert Bird and wife Susannah Bird…all the land on the west side of Goose Hill Creek from a patent of 700 acres which belonged to said Yarrett and Hugh Winn decd, in exchange for 150 acres on the east side of Goose Hill Creek which said Bird bought from said Yarrett and said Winn. Wit: William Bracy and Thomas Woodward Rec. 9 Jul 1657 signed William and Margaret Yarrett Isle of Wight Deeds, Wills, Guardian Accounts-Book A 1637-1767 Pg. 55 Haven, near land of Capt. Basse called Cedar Island, now in possession of William Pateford, extending S. toward land of Hugh Wynn & William Taylor. Due to assignment of patent of Samuell Jackson, dated Oct. 10, 1639. Patent Book #1 Cavaliers and Pioneers--Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants 1623-1666, Nell Marion Nugent, Genealogical Publishing Co. 1963 975.5 R2n v. 1 Samuel Jackson, 200 acr., Isle of Wight Co., Oct 11, 1639, page 679. E. upon Pagan Cr. Or New Towne Haven, near land belonging to Capt. Basse called Cedall Island, now in possession of William Patteford, southerly toward land of Hugh Wynn and William Taylor. Trans. Of 4 pers: John Prowse, Richard Nicholas, John Grigs, Henry Smith. Patent Book #1 Cavaliers and Pioneers--Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants 1623-1666, Nell Marion Nugent, Genealogical Publishing Co. 1963 975.5 R2n v. 1 2nd Marriage of Elizabeth Wynne after the death of Hugh. Walton John & Mrs. Elizabeth Wynne, R. of Hugh Wynne. 1666 W. & D. B. I. P. 87 Film #962246 Marriage of Isle of Wight Co., 1628 - 1800 Compiled by Blanche Adams Chapman 1933 I found no evidence of Hugh having descendants. Karen Coombs--A Winn Cousin -----Original Message----- From: winn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:winn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Randy Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:34 PM To: WINN-L Subject: [WINN] Where I'm Coming From Cousins, I've been asked repeatedly which line is mine. To provide that information the best way I have found to do it, I have put this page on the Internet: http://www.ancestor-rescue.com/Winn/originsDirect.htm I would be particularly interested in finding out what others have documented on these families and working with them on documenting them. I have looked at what is available via Google and will continue to search there. Be advised that much of my Winn ancestry is currently under revision this Winter. I started this genealogy with the J. Winn manuscript from the 1930s. I have made many additions and changes but didn't do a very good job of documenting things. I am now fully appreciative of the value of documentation. I hope to become increasingly savvy at documenting family history and to be able to incorporate that into this website. Thanks for your support, Randy C. Smart ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a company in Columbia, TN that has recently published a book about the Winn family. An order blank can be found at www.winndata.com WINN-DANIEL AND HIS 9 SONS I have ordered a copy of the book but have not received it at this time. Price is $38.00 for non-Tennessee or non-Georgia residents. Columbia in Maury County, TN is where General Richard Winn settled and died. Another Wynne, Alfred Royal Wynne, lived in Sumner County, TN near Castalian Springs. A. R. Wynne built the largest log home in Tennessee, and it served as a stage coach stop and inn--the home is call Wynnewood and is presently owned by the state of Tennessee. Wynnewood was heavily damaged by a tornado on Feb. 5, 2008. Some of this Wynne family are buried at Cragfont, the home of General James Winchester, just about 5 miles from Wynnewood. The two families were related through marriage of children. Don -----Original Message----- From: winn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:winn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GramereC@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:36 AM To: winn@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WINN] Gwynedd Sheri Lets see who chimes in. Which way are you looking in Tennessee?? Connie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sheri Lets see who chimes in. Which way are you looking in Tennessee?? Connie

Cousins, I've been asked repeatedly which line is mine. To provide that information the best way I have found to do it, I have put this page on the Internet: http://www.ancestor-rescue.com/Winn/originsDirect.htm I would be particularly interested in finding out what others have documented on these families and working with them on documenting them. I have looked at what is available via Google and will continue to search there. Be advised that much of my Winn ancestry is currently under revision this Winter. I started this genealogy with the J. Winn manuscript from the 1930s. I have made many additions and changes but didn't do a very good job of documenting things. I am now fully appreciative of the value of documentation. I hope to become increasingly savvy at documenting family history and to be able to incorporate that into this website. Thanks for your support, Randy C. Smart

I have purchased the Winn-Daniel book and just the portions that deal with my proveable Winn family make this a very worth-while purchase. Highly recommended Btrian Winn -----Original Message----- From: winn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:winn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Don Winn Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:51 AM To: winn@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WINN] Gwynedd There is a company in Columbia, TN that has recently published a book about the Winn family. An order blank can be found at www.winndata.com WINN-DANIEL AND HIS 9 SONS I have ordered a copy of the book but have not received it at this time. Price is $38.00 for non-Tennessee or non-Georgia residents. Columbia in Maury County, TN is where General Richard Winn settled and died. Another Wynne, Alfred Royal Wynne, lived in Sumner County, TN near Castalian Springs. A. R. Wynne built the largest log home in Tennessee, and it served as a stage coach stop and inn--the home is call Wynnewood and is presently owned by the state of Tennessee. Wynnewood was heavily damaged by a tornado on Feb. 5, 2008. Some of this Wynne family are buried at Cragfont, the home of General James Winchester, just about 5 miles from Wynnewood. The two families were related through marriage of children. Don -----Original Message----- From: winn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:winn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GramereC@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:36 AM To: winn@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WINN] Gwynedd Sheri Lets see who chimes in. Which way are you looking in Tennessee?? Connie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Randy; I have an original copy of Sir John Wynn's book. Also have a book on Hugh Wynne. Once you can prove descent from royalty (any one royal) the work has usually been done. I'll include a couple of pages from "The 4 Wynns Newsletters" on the subjects you have broached. I tried to determine your line from the website but the link fails. Elizabeth Minor: (5) Editor: I belive the basic for the John Winn and Elizabeth Minor marriage is that it was known that John Winn married one Elizabeth Minor. This comes from an article title, "JOHN MINOR OF WESTMORELAND COUNTY VIRGINIA." No author given. this states in part, "It is only known that John Winn m.a Elizabeth Minor and because Elizabeth daughter of John Minor (Will of 1698) was the only Elizabeth Minor in that area at that time, she is belived to be the one." This genealogy begins by saying''John Minor b. in England, belived to be son of Ann nd Harry Mynors of Garway, England. Immigrated to VA. prior to 1627 with his widowed mother,and sister, Jane Kidwalider wife of John Kidwalider." THE COMPLETE BOOK OF EMIGRANTS, by Peter Coldham, which covers the period between 1607-1660 of Va., does not list any Minor, any spelling having came to Va. during that period, neither does it list a Jane and John Kidwalider. It does list on page 465 a Jane and John Kidwillar. Dated 1 Aug 1660. ''The following bound to John Woory, merchant to serve in Nevis, John Kidwillar, yeoman for 5 years. Jane Kidwillar, spinster for 5 years."It is difficult to belive had the Minors been in Va. prior to 1627 that they would have not showed up in some of the many records covered in this book. Richard Winns children, son of John Winn and Elizabeth Minor, were born in Middlesex County. My point is, doesn't it seem possible that Elizabeth Minor could have been the daughter of many of the other Minors in that area of Middlesex? There was a family of Minors who settled there ca 1673. Ref: John B Minor, THE MINOR FAMILY OF VIRGINIA, (1923) In his preface he states,"In an old Bible which belonged to my father Dr. Charles Minor, and which is now in my possession, he wrote the following memorandum in 1853". (And here I will not take word for word just the high points.) "Dr. Charles Minor and all his kindred are descend from a Dutchman named Doodes Minor who was admitted to full citizenship in 1673 by an act of Assembly found in "Hennings Statutes at Large." v.1 308. Along with four other compatriots Maindort Doodes and his son Doodes Minor were Naturalized by an act of a Grand Assembly, holden in James City the 12 Sept. 1673. They were to have all rights and privileges including those of free traffique and trading that were allowed to any natural b. Englishman of the Colony. Maindort Doodes made his will 1677 signed his name Maindort Doodes and named his son as Doodes Minor. There are some who belive Doodes Minor was an Englishman, but if so why should he be naturalized when coming to an English colony as Virginia was at that time? Maindort Doodes, a Dutch Sea Captain. His will was sealed with his signet ring bearing the impress of a Dutch Ship of the 17th Century. Doodes Minor, who married Elizabeth Cocke, settled on the Rappahannock and its waters in County of tfiddlesex. He had four sons, Garret Minor, Minor Minor, John Minor, and Peter Minor. Doodes son Peter was apprenticed by his mother Mrs. Elizabeth Minor to a Boston ship Capt John Phillips in 1677. He afterwards ran away from his Master and never came home. A letter from him to his brother Garret, written at Rotterdam, was in possesssion, I think of the second Garret's son Samuel 0. Minor. I once made a copy of this letter which was burned by a kinswoman. dislikinq the humble life in which it exhibited her collateral Ancestors. This book traces the desc. of Garrett Minor. source: The 4 Wynns Newsletters; Sep 1988 Vol 3, #1, pg 5 +++++++++++++++++ Sir John Wynn: Gen 13: Sir John Wynn, b. 1553, died 1627, son of Morris Wynn. m. Sydney Gerard of Ireland. Issue: 1. John Wynn, died 1613 before father. m. Margaret dau. of Thomas Cave. Left no issue. 2. Richard Wynn, b. 1588, d. 1649, bur. at Wimbledon. Left no issue. 3. Robert Wynn, b. 1593, d. 1617, Priest. Left no issue. 4. Thomas Wynn, died an infant. 5. Ellis Wynn, b. ~599, d. 1619. Left no issue. 6. Owen Wynn, b. 1600, d. 1668, m. Grace Williams, dau. of Hugh Williams. Issue: 1. Sir Richard Wynn d. Oct 30, 1674, rn. Sarah dau. of Thomas Myddelton. Issue: Mary, sole heir. m. Robert Bertie. 2. Sydney Wynn, b. and d. 1639. 7. Morris Wynn b. ca 1602 d. Sept 30 1670 bur. at Llanrwst. Left no issue. 8. Henry Wynn, Attorney at Law, m. Catherine Ellis Lloyd Issue: 1. Sir John Wynn, Bart of Watstay, the last Bart. b. 1627, d. 1718. ifi. Jane dau. and heir of Eyton Evans. Left no issue. -9. William Wynn, d. 24 Dec. 1654 m. Jane dau of Thomas Lloyd. Issue: 1. Sidney Wynn m. Edward Thelwall of Plas y ward. .- - 2. Richard Wynn m. Catherine dau of Thomas - Viscount Bulkeley. Left no male issue. 10. Two infants by the name of Roger. 11. Elizabeth Wynn m. 1st Sir John Bodvel m. 2d. John Thelwall. 12. Mary m. Sir Roger Mostyn. Here ends the male line of Sir John Wynn and Sydney Gerard. m Now back to Edwin Wynn, half brother of Sir John Wynn. ~ Gen 13: Edwin Wynn of Astrad m. in 1589 Blanch, dau of Jo Van of Blaen-y-Cwn.. ~Gen 14: ~Robert Wyn m. Barbara dau of Williams of Llwyn. Issue: 1. Ed. Wyon of Llwyn, Clerk of the Green Cloth. Left no issue. 2. Owen Wynn of Llwyn., b.1650, d. 1717, m. 1689 to Ann dau. of Mawna Lewis. 0 Issue: 1. Mawris Wyon. ~ Gen 15: ~ Mawris Wynn b. in 1690 m. Elizabeth dau. of Francis Edwards. ~ Gen 16: Owen Wynn b. 1724, d. 1780 m. Ellenor dau. of Thomas Seele of Liverp Issue: 1. Wateyn Edwards Wynn d. 1790 m. Anna Maria Mostyn ,wd. NTO issue. ~. Mawrys Wyno, Rector of Bango. source: 4 Wynns Newsletter Good luck! Jack Wynn On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Randy wrote: > I know that the information I now have on my website: http:// > www.ancestor-rescue.com/Winn/index.htm is full of errors and I > humbly submit the following observations/opinions knowing there are > some people that have put a lot more time and effort into the Winn/ > Winne/Wynn/Wynne/Gwynne family than I have and will always know > more than I do about much of the lineage and history. > > I am trying to establish sources for my Winn line and to make my > website a helpful tool in finding and linking all the many family > relations. I want to eventually have a link to everything of > personal interest (to my relatives) that I don't cover in my site. > And to have a useable reference that will help and not confuse > others in tying to their lines. > > I have thought it best to do it in two parts: > a.. GWYNNE: All those ancestors before immigration to America > (assuming the move was around the 1600s). There seem to be many > versions of the Wynne/Wynn lines in the 17th and 18th centuries. It > would be nice, if possible, to establish a strawman version to work > off of with links to other versions where warranted. > I found an amazing book on Google Books: The History of the > Gwydir Family http://books.google.com/books? > id=DCoAAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA62&dq=gwydir&lr=#v=onepage&q=&f=false It a > book written in the 1600 by Sir John Wynn (updated 1878 by Askew > Roberts) with manuscripts found at Winnstay. I put much of the > genealogy into my database program and plan to make a GEDCOM file > corresponding to this book and it's lineage. I thought I would > convert this to what will become the GWYNNE website > a.. WINN: Everything since down to my mother, Beatrice Winn > http://www.ancestor-rescue.com/Bea/index.htm > For this I will use what I have collected over the years, trying > to cover as many ancillary lines as possible (maybe, in some cases, > only mentioning I have additional info not on the site itself). > If I can tie one to the other (GWYNNE--WINN), I will but I don't > want to assume the ties as has been done in the past. I don't > subscribe to the immigration, census, etc. data so I can't use that > to pin down immigration and sort through the Virginia Winns. > > What I am asking my many cousins is weather I'm wasting my time and > this already exists or it is impractical for some reason I haven't > thought of. And, if there is a way to do this without starting from > scratch or using the wrong data, I really could use some help. In > my research so far, I found Wiki to be an incredible storehouse of > well-presented information. > > Randy C. Smart > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Randy, It's hard to know where to start in responding to your plea. But I fear you have fallen prey to a trap common to those beginning to look into the "Wynnes" (Winn, Wynn, Gwinn, etc.). Sir John's book is a famous and historic tome, and he was a notable figure in his own time but, altho he had ten (legitimate) children, he had no direct descendant lines. And no desc. who ever came to America, even tho you will find various books speculating that one of Sir John's sons, Owen Wynne, did have desc. who came to Va. and even that Owen came but returned to Wales --- not so. Owen Wynne lived and died in Wales. You need to know that research is still very much needed to establish the links of a number of Winn/Wynnes to their English and Welsh origins, and also that some such links have been well documented. If you want other Winn/Wynne folks to help, you'll have to give us a starting point for your particular family line. Who is the earliest Winn/Wynne from whom you can prove descent? Where and when did he live? I am attaching an info piece I did to help clarify some of the confusions that have become all too common --- Wynne mythtakes, I call them. Good luck in your search. Myles Johnson Rockville, Md. ********************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: winn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:winn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Randy Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:52 PM To: WINN-L Subject: [WINN] A Gwynne/Winn Situation? I know that the information I now have on my website: http://www.ancestor-rescue.com/Winn/index.htm is full of errors and I humbly submit the following observations/opinions knowing there are some people that have put a lot more time and effort into the Winn/Winne/Wynn/Wynne/Gwynne family than I have and will always know more than I do about much of the lineage and history. I am trying to establish sources for my Winn line and to make my website a helpful tool in finding and linking all the many family relations. I want to eventually have a link to everything of personal interest (to my relatives) that I don't cover in my site. And to have a useable reference that will help and not confuse others in tying to their lines. I have thought it best to do it in two parts: a.. GWYNNE: All those ancestors before immigration to America (assuming the move was around the 1600s). There seem to be many versions of the Wynne/Wynn lines in the 17th and 18th centuries. It would be nice, if possible, to establish a strawman version to work off of with links to other versions where warranted. I found an amazing book on Google Books: The History of the Gwydir Family http://books.google.com/books?id=DCoAAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA62&dq=gwydir&lr=#v=onepag e&q=&f=false It a book written in the 1600 by Sir John Wynn (updated 1878 by Askew Roberts) with manuscripts found at Winnstay. I put much of the genealogy into my database program and plan to make a GEDCOM file corresponding to this book and it's lineage. I thought I would convert this to what will become the GWYNNE website a.. WINN: Everything since down to my mother, Beatrice Winn http://www.ancestor-rescue.com/Bea/index.htm For this I will use what I have collected over the years, trying to cover as many ancillary lines as possible (maybe, in some cases, only mentioning I have additional info not on the site itself). If I can tie one to the other (GWYNNE--WINN), I will but I don't want to assume the ties as has been done in the past. I don't subscribe to the immigration, census, etc. data so I can't use that to pin down immigration and sort through the Virginia Winns. What I am asking my many cousins is weather I'm wasting my time and this already exists or it is impractical for some reason I haven't thought of. And, if there is a way to do this without starting from scratch or using the wrong data, I really could use some help. In my research so far, I found Wiki to be an incredible storehouse of well-presented information. Randy C. Smart ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jack, Thank you for your response and the information. I will analyze what you have provided and see if it helps. Yes, my site is in limbo and I'm not sure where my line goes right now as I'm beginning to question so much of what I was given. But, isn't that an essential attitude under the circumstances? Hopefully, I can at least tighten up my own direct ancestors before looking to tie them to Wales. I've seen enough mistakes and the propagation of bad info to become really sensitive to the quality of information. In order to use 4 Wynns Newsletters as sources, I'd like to know who wrote it, when, and what sources were used, and how to direct others to it. Otherwise, it is really a source? I hope to hear from you from time to time along my course this winter to take advantage of your insights in this area. Thanks, Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwynn" <jwynn@mindspring.com> To: "Randy" <rsmart@ancestor-rescue.com>; <winn@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [WINN] A Gwynne/Winn Situation? > Randy; > > I have an original copy of Sir John Wynn's book. Also have a book on > Hugh Wynne. Once you can prove descent from royalty (any one > royal) the work has usually been done. I'll include a couple of > pages from "The 4 Wynns Newsletters" on the subjects you have broached. > > I tried to determine your line from the website but the link fails. > > Elizabeth Minor: > (5) > > Editor: > I belive the basic for the John Winn and Elizabeth Minor marriage is > that it was known that John Winn married one Elizabeth Minor. This > comes from an article title, "JOHN MINOR OF WESTMORELAND COUNTY > VIRGINIA." No author given. this states in part, "It is only known > that John Winn m.a Elizabeth Minor and because Elizabeth daughter of > John Minor (Will of 1698) was the only Elizabeth Minor in that area > at that time, she is belived to be the one." This genealogy begins by > saying''John Minor b. in England, belived to be son of Ann nd Harry > Mynors of Garway, England. Immigrated to VA. prior to 1627 with his > widowed mother,and sister, Jane Kidwalider wife of John Kidwalider." > THE COMPLETE BOOK OF EMIGRANTS, by Peter Coldham, which covers the > period between 1607-1660 of Va., does not list any Minor, any > spelling having came to Va. during that period, neither does it list > a Jane and John Kidwalider. It does list on page 465 a Jane and John > Kidwillar. Dated 1 Aug 1660. ''The following bound to John Woory, > merchant to serve in Nevis, John Kidwillar, yeoman for 5 years. Jane > Kidwillar, spinster for 5 years."It is difficult to belive had the > Minors been in Va. prior to 1627 that they would have not showed up > in some of the many records covered in this book. Richard Winns > children, son of John Winn and Elizabeth Minor, were born in > Middlesex County. My point is, doesn't it seem possible that > Elizabeth Minor could have been the daughter of many of the other > Minors in that area of Middlesex? There was a family of Minors who > settled there ca 1673. > Ref: > John B Minor, THE MINOR FAMILY OF VIRGINIA, (1923) > In his preface he states,"In an old Bible which belonged to my father > Dr. Charles Minor, and which is now in my possession, he wrote the > following memorandum in 1853". (And here I will not take word for > word just the high points.) "Dr. Charles Minor and all his kindred > are descend from a Dutchman named Doodes Minor who was admitted to > full citizenship in 1673 by an act of Assembly found in "Hennings > Statutes at Large." v.1 308. Along with four other compatriots > Maindort Doodes and his son Doodes Minor were Naturalized by an act > of a Grand Assembly, holden in James City the 12 Sept. 1673. They > were to have all rights and privileges including those of free > traffique and trading that were allowed to any natural b. Englishman > of the Colony. Maindort Doodes made his will 1677 signed his name > Maindort Doodes and named his son as Doodes Minor. There are some > who belive Doodes Minor was an Englishman, but if so why should he be > naturalized when coming to an English colony as Virginia was at that > time? Maindort Doodes, a Dutch Sea Captain. His will was sealed with > his signet ring bearing the impress of a Dutch Ship of the 17th > Century. Doodes Minor, who married Elizabeth Cocke, settled on the > Rappahannock and its waters in County of tfiddlesex. He had four > sons, Garret Minor, Minor Minor, John Minor, and Peter Minor. > Doodes son Peter was apprenticed by his mother Mrs. Elizabeth Minor > to a Boston ship Capt John Phillips in 1677. He afterwards ran away > from his Master and never came home. A letter from him to his brother > Garret, written at Rotterdam, was in possesssion, I think of the > second Garret's son Samuel 0. Minor. I once made a copy of this > letter which was burned by a kinswoman. dislikinq the humble life in > which it exhibited her collateral Ancestors. This book traces the > desc. of Garrett Minor. > > source: The 4 Wynns Newsletters; Sep 1988 Vol 3, #1, pg 5 > > +++++++++++++++++ > > Sir John Wynn: > > Gen 13: > Sir John Wynn, b. 1553, died 1627, son of Morris Wynn. > m. Sydney Gerard of Ireland. > Issue: 1. John Wynn, died 1613 before father. > m. Margaret dau. of Thomas Cave. > Left no issue. > 2. Richard Wynn, b. 1588, d. 1649, bur. at Wimbledon. > Left no issue. > 3. Robert Wynn, b. 1593, d. 1617, Priest. > Left no issue. > 4. Thomas Wynn, died an infant. > 5. Ellis Wynn, b. ~599, d. 1619. > Left no issue. > 6. Owen Wynn, b. 1600, d. 1668, m. Grace Williams, dau. of Hugh > Williams. > Issue: 1. Sir Richard Wynn d. Oct 30, 1674, rn. Sarah dau. of > Thomas Myddelton. > Issue: Mary, sole heir. m. Robert Bertie. > 2. Sydney Wynn, b. and d. 1639. > 7. Morris Wynn b. ca 1602 d. Sept 30 1670 bur. at Llanrwst. > Left no issue. > 8. Henry Wynn, Attorney at Law, m. Catherine Ellis Lloyd > Issue: 1. Sir John Wynn, Bart of Watstay, the last Bart. b. 1627, > d. 1718. ifi. Jane dau. and heir of Eyton Evans. > Left no issue. > -9. William Wynn, d. 24 Dec. 1654 m. Jane dau of Thomas Lloyd. > Issue: 1. Sidney Wynn m. Edward Thelwall of Plas y ward. > .- - 2. Richard Wynn m. Catherine dau of Thomas - > Viscount Bulkeley. > Left no male issue. > 10. Two infants by the name of Roger. > 11. Elizabeth Wynn m. 1st Sir John Bodvel > m. 2d. John Thelwall. > 12. Mary m. Sir Roger Mostyn. > Here ends the male line of Sir John Wynn and Sydney Gerard. > m Now back to Edwin Wynn, half brother of Sir John Wynn. > > ~ Gen 13: > Edwin Wynn of Astrad m. in 1589 Blanch, dau of Jo Van of Blaen-y-Cwn.. > ~Gen 14: > ~Robert Wyn m. Barbara dau of Williams of Llwyn. > Issue: 1. Ed. Wyon of Llwyn, Clerk of the Green Cloth. > Left no issue. > 2. Owen Wynn of Llwyn., b.1650, d. 1717, > m. 1689 to Ann dau. of Mawna Lewis. > 0 Issue: 1. Mawris Wyon. > ~ Gen 15: > ~ Mawris Wynn b. in 1690 m. Elizabeth dau. of Francis Edwards. > ~ Gen 16: > Owen Wynn b. 1724, d. 1780 m. Ellenor dau. of Thomas Seele of Liverp > > Issue: 1. Wateyn Edwards Wynn d. 1790 m. Anna Maria Mostyn ,wd. > NTO issue. > ~. Mawrys Wyno, Rector of Bango. > source: 4 Wynns Newsletter > > Good luck! > > Jack Wynn > > > On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Randy wrote: > >> I know that the information I now have on my website: http:// >> www.ancestor-rescue.com/Winn/index.htm is full of errors and I >> humbly submit the following observations/opinions knowing there are >> some people that have put a lot more time and effort into the Winn/ >> Winne/Wynn/Wynne/Gwynne family than I have and will always know >> more than I do about much of the lineage and history. >> >> I am trying to establish sources for my Winn line and to make my >> website a helpful tool in finding and linking all the many family >> relations. I want to eventually have a link to everything of >> personal interest (to my relatives) that I don't cover in my site. >> And to have a useable reference that will help and not confuse >> others in tying to their lines. >> >> I have thought it best to do it in two parts: >> a.. GWYNNE: All those ancestors before immigration to America >> (assuming the move was around the 1600s). There seem to be many >> versions of the Wynne/Wynn lines in the 17th and 18th centuries. It >> would be nice, if possible, to establish a strawman version to work >> off of with links to other versions where warranted. >> I found an amazing book on Google Books: The History of the >> Gwydir Family http://books.google.com/books? >> id=DCoAAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA62&dq=gwydir&lr=#v=onepage&q=&f=false It a >> book written in the 1600 by Sir John Wynn (updated 1878 by Askew >> Roberts) with manuscripts found at Winnstay. I put much of the >> genealogy into my database program and plan to make a GEDCOM file >> corresponding to this book and it's lineage. I thought I would >> convert this to what will become the GWYNNE website >> a.. WINN: Everything since down to my mother, Beatrice Winn >> http://www.ancestor-rescue.com/Bea/index.htm >> For this I will use what I have collected over the years, trying >> to cover as many ancillary lines as possible (maybe, in some cases, >> only mentioning I have additional info not on the site itself). >> If I can tie one to the other (GWYNNE--WINN), I will but I don't >> want to assume the ties as has been done in the past. I don't >> subscribe to the immigration, census, etc. data so I can't use that >> to pin down immigration and sort through the Virginia Winns. >> >> What I am asking my many cousins is weather I'm wasting my time and >> this already exists or it is impractical for some reason I haven't >> thought of. And, if there is a way to do this without starting from >> scratch or using the wrong data, I really could use some help. In >> my research so far, I found Wiki to be an incredible storehouse of >> well-presented information. >> >> Randy C. Smart >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Please Can anyone help ?I am searching for the origins of gggrandfather Moses Thompson Winn , born 1829 in Tn Came to Mo area in ca 1840 Can anyone point me to a Winn researcher interested in the TN area Thank you Sheri

I know that the information I now have on my website: http://www.ancestor-rescue.com/Winn/index.htm is full of errors and I humbly submit the following observations/opinions knowing there are some people that have put a lot more time and effort into the Winn/Winne/Wynn/Wynne/Gwynne family than I have and will always know more than I do about much of the lineage and history. I am trying to establish sources for my Winn line and to make my website a helpful tool in finding and linking all the many family relations. I want to eventually have a link to everything of personal interest (to my relatives) that I don't cover in my site. And to have a useable reference that will help and not confuse others in tying to their lines. I have thought it best to do it in two parts: a.. GWYNNE: All those ancestors before immigration to America (assuming the move was around the 1600s). There seem to be many versions of the Wynne/Wynn lines in the 17th and 18th centuries. It would be nice, if possible, to establish a strawman version to work off of with links to other versions where warranted. I found an amazing book on Google Books: The History of the Gwydir Family http://books.google.com/books?id=DCoAAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA62&dq=gwydir&lr=#v=onepage&q=&f=false It a book written in the 1600 by Sir John Wynn (updated 1878 by Askew Roberts) with manuscripts found at Winnstay. I put much of the genealogy into my database program and plan to make a GEDCOM file corresponding to this book and it's lineage. I thought I would convert this to what will become the GWYNNE website a.. WINN: Everything since down to my mother, Beatrice Winn http://www.ancestor-rescue.com/Bea/index.htm For this I will use what I have collected over the years, trying to cover as many ancillary lines as possible (maybe, in some cases, only mentioning I have additional info not on the site itself). If I can tie one to the other (GWYNNE--WINN), I will but I don't want to assume the ties as has been done in the past. I don't subscribe to the immigration, census, etc. data so I can't use that to pin down immigration and sort through the Virginia Winns. What I am asking my many cousins is weather I'm wasting my time and this already exists or it is impractical for some reason I haven't thought of. And, if there is a way to do this without starting from scratch or using the wrong data, I really could use some help. In my research so far, I found Wiki to be an incredible storehouse of well-presented information. Randy C. Smart

Trying to locate information re Carolyn V. WINN, b. abt. 1943, Oregon.  She was a WAC stationed at Ft. Myer, VA, about 1962. Thanks

I would like to request a copy too. tried to find one on Smithsonian website without success please email to winnsims@winns.com with my thanks Brian -----Original Message----- From: winn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:winn-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Monica L. Morris Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 6:39 AM To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; winn@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WINN] Origins of Minor Winn Is it still possible to get a copy of the portrait of Mary Pledger Winn? Thank you for sharing this. -----Original Message----- From: winn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:winn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:38 PM To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WINN] Origins of Minor Winn This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BMeredithW Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.winn/1614.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe you may have dropped a generation from Richard to Hezekiah, namely, John who married Mary Pledger. What is astounding about the name Minor is its persistence. Minor, the son of Hezekiah, had a grandson named George Minor Winn, who had a grandson named the same, living until 1988! By the way, I have a copy of the portrait of Mary Pledger Winn (ca. 1738) if anyone is interested. Meredith Winn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is it still possible to get a copy of the portrait of Mary Pledger Winn? Thank you for sharing this. -----Original Message----- From: winn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:winn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:38 PM To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WINN] Origins of Minor Winn This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BMeredithW Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.winn/1614.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe you may have dropped a generation from Richard to Hezekiah, namely, John who married Mary Pledger. What is astounding about the name Minor is its persistence. Minor, the son of Hezekiah, had a grandson named George Minor Winn, who had a grandson named the same, living until 1988! By the way, I have a copy of the portrait of Mary Pledger Winn (ca. 1738) if anyone is interested. Meredith Winn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David- My original response to your message does not appear in sent messages file so I am resending the attached file as a recommendation for a "Southern Winn" sightseeing through North Wales. Gwydir Uchaf and Rug is the epicenter for Wynn's in the Gwydir line. I suggest enquiring with the staff at the Gwydir B&B to make arraignments to Gwydir Uchaf beforehand. I believe there is a mable tablet setting forth the descent of the Gwydir Wynn's to the "Last right heir of the crown of the Prince of Wales" in the chapel [well worth a photo]. Also, the Gwydir Wynn's were rather late to assume the surname Wynn ca 1525 as the surname had been in use since the 12th C. Don't know if you will have a chance to visit the West Riding of Yorkshire but Nostell Priory is a must see for any Wynn descendant. -Robert On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:18:51 -0600 "David Winn" <dwinn@cailaw.org> wrote: > > Hi Robert, > > I wish I could help but I'm a rookie at all this. > > Happy hunting, > > David > > > -----Original Message----- >From: Robert Morefield [mailto:robertmorefield@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:43 AM > To: winn@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WINN] Gwynedd > > Hello David, > > May I ask a question? Have you located any information of a connection with the Winn line that >came to American in 1852 and settled in Hancock county, KY from Seaton >Delaval/Northumberland/England. My great grandfather was born there in 1851. His father John >Winn was a Coal weigher for the mine there. He was born and raised in the New Castle on the Tyne >area. I have John's father as Thomas Winn born about 1776. John Winn born in 1809 married Mary >Fletcher daughter of Richard Fletcher. My son and I made a trip to the northern part of England >where we visited the pub that was standing when my great great grandfather lived in the Forman's >Row housing. The Row houses are gone now. > > Robert R. Morefield > Murphysboro, Illinois > --------------------------------------------- > > --- On Wed, 11/4/09, David Winn <dwinn@cailaw.org> wrote: > >> From: David Winn <dwinn@cailaw.org> >> Subject: Re: [WINN] Gwynedd >> To: winn@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 9:43 AM >> >> Thanks, Connie.  I'm excited too. >> >> I'm hosting a conference in London and then taking a few >> days off before >> returning home. >> >> Apparently there are rooms available at Gwydir Castle, the >> Wynn >> ancestral home in Lllanrwst, so I may stay there a night or >> two.  What >> are the chances that some of the southern Winn's trace >> their ancestry >> back to this Wynn family? >> >> David >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: GramereC@aol.com >> [mailto:GramereC@aol.com] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:51 AM >> To: winn@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WINN] Gwynedd >> >> Wow wish I had more time to prepare. Gwynedd how? where? >> All the Castles< Gwidar, Stokesay Castle(Shrops), >> Sycharth(Denbigh),  >> Oswestry(shrops) and Garthewin(denbigh). >> >> I think the railroad is closed for season already. >> >> Anything to do with the Jacobite rebellion. >> >> And the Quaker History. >> The Quaker center may be open: >> _http://www.gwynedd.gov.uk/gwy_doc.asp?cat=4016&doc=9871&Language=1_ >> >> (http://www.gwynedd.gov.uk/gwy_doc.asp?cat=4016&doc=9871&Language=1) >> The family history center, I think they say heritage.  >> >> >> Take pictures!!! >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WINN-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WINN-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: scpike177 Surnames: Winn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.winn/860.15/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Could I please have a copy of the records for Galanus Winn? Thank you. Carol Pike, scpike@roadrunner.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.