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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FgWBAEB/577.2 Message Board Post: I am the Great Granddaughter of Florence Ellen Winn who is an elder sister to Rosella Winn. I have family member information if you would like to contact me.

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Hi: I am new to the list and so I will post my interests. I am looking for WILLIAM EATHEN WINN who was married to ELLEN SPECK. William was b approx 1871, Ellen b approx 1881. Ellen's parents were GEORGE TRAVIS SPECK and FRANCIS DEMPSEY. Last know address for William and Ellen is Niagara Falls, New York in 1950. I don't know all of their children, but the ones I do know are: TRAVIS SILAS WINN LEROY E. WINN b 1904 GARNET DEMPSEY WINN b 1911 WILBURT EARL WINN b 1913 GARNET DEMPSEY WINN married ISABELLA (LUM?) Their children: EMMY LOU WINN b 1937 married JOHN LELAND MILLER WILLIAM GARNET WINN b 1942 married JUDY MAE DOTY I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. Gerri "the love you take is equal to the love you make"

Hugs to you and Kenneth, both of you are very deserving persons who are willing to share joy to others! Best wishes, GJA/ ts -----Original Message----- From: The Thill Group Inc <ttg-inc@attbi.com> To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [WINN] OT - Back in Pocket notice 2/12/2002 >Dear Cuz GJA, > Thank you for you for your thoughts and prayers. Isn't it funny how having >his voice means so much... but every time I think about it I almost come to >tears... a voice silenced... sigh.. weird I know but just seems odd to think >of him with out his special "sound"... I am grateful for every moment we >have and doubly so if we are able to keep him but this has hit me oddly >about his voice... Thanks for the prayers it is appreciated. >Thank you to all Cuz's that have e-mailed me privately also. > >Hugs Cuz B >ttg-inc@attbi.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Theresa M Stirbis" <tstir@HiWAAY.net> >To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 2:47 AM >Subject: Re: [WINN] Back in Pocket notice 2/12/2002 > > >> Becky, you are so thoughtful in recording your uncles' family story in his >> voice & his own personal way for all to enjoy indefinitely - you have a >> great treasure for future generations. >> >> May God's blessings be upon him always, especially through his surgery, >> treatments, and days of needing strength. It seems that Kenneth has great >> spirit, sure hope he does fine during his surgery & recovery. >> >> We missed you, cousin! >> >> GJA/ ts >> -----Original Message----- >> From: The Thill Group Inc <ttg-inc@attbi.com> >> To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:52 PM >> Subject: [WINN] Back in Pocket notice 2/12/2002 >> >> >> >I am back in pocket 2/12/2002 5:35 pm central time. >> >The rest of this message is off topic. >> > >> >As to Uncle Kenneth: They did one surgery on Monday to place a stomach >peg >> >[tube for feeding] for feeding while they do the removal of the voice box >> >and do a neck lumpectomy deal on the lymphnodes in the neck, then when >> >radiation is over and all healed they will remove the stomach peg. >> > Surgery did not go well. Tuesday instead of doing the second surgery >for >> >removal of the voice box etc... they took him into emergency surgery to >> find >> >out what was wrong with the stomach "peg", etc from Monday. He came out >of >> >the ok, with a change of placement, sewing up the other one, and cleaning >> up >> >the mess. They will have him on three days of antibiotics then next week >> >they will do the removal of the voice box etc... They feel the cancer is >> >totally contained and that it will be fixed with the removal and the >> >radiation to follow. Your prayers were heard. Thank you all. >> > >> > And this is something you might think about... I took with me my handy >> >dandy little tape recorder that I bought at Staples for 29.95 that has >one >> >hour micro tapes and has a special speaker on the end so that the person >> >doesn't have to hold it like a microphone, and it filters all the noise. >On >> >Sunday night when I arrived at the hospital, I set down with my Uncle >> >Kenneth and I put the recorder [turned on] on the little table.. and we >> >talked.. about old times and his growing up and about his folks and >> >grandparents and how he met and married my mothers sister, and how he >> >learned to be part of a "Hugging" family etc... believe it or not I have >> >four hour filled tapes of my Uncle Kenneth and I reliving some history. >He >> >didn't want to sleep and this kept his mind off of things... but the >thing >> >that it gives me is the sound of his voice. It is on tape for all time. >> Once >> >they do the surgery next week, his voice will be gone, never to be heard >> >again. Yes if all goes well and we get our prayers answered, we will have >> >him and a mechanical voice box.. but it will not be my Uncle voice that I >> >hear in the back of my mind in my memories... But this also gives us a >tape >> >recording of his family story and history. He thought it a wonderful >thing >> >and actually seemed to forget it was on the side taping. ...... Food for >> >thought, you might do this with your families..... on the favorite >> >Uncle...all my Aunts and Uncles are my favorites for different reasons, >but >> >this one is extra special because, as we moved so often [USArmy 37 >schools >> >by seventh grade], I was concerned if I ever got lost I would never find >my >> >family again he helped me memorize his phone number so that I could >always >> >call him and not be lost.... I still remember that phone number >> >405-MU5-8183.. it is no longer their phone number but was until I went to >> >College. It always made me feel safe to know that number... Silly? Nah >love >> >in the best kind. >> > >> >Thanks again for your prayers they are always of help. >> >Thank you to all that e-mailed me privately, also. You are all special to >> >me. >> >Hugs one tired Cuz B >> >ttg-inc@attbi.com >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "The Thill Group Inc" <ttg-inc@attbi.com> >> >To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 4:00 PM >> >Subject: [WYNN-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY] OUT OF POCKET NOTICE 2/9/2003 >> > >> > >> >> Dear Cuz's, >> >> I will be out of pocket from Sunday 2/9/2003 until Thursday night. >> >> [leaving in a few minutes to drive to OKC, Fav Uncle is undergoing >cancer >> >> surgery to remove his voice box. Prayers needed] >> >> >> >> Hugs Cuz Becky >> >> List Admin. WINN-L and Wynne Genealogy Society-:L >> >> ttg-inc@attbi.com >> >> http://www.ttg-inc.net >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ >> >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, >> >go to: >> >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >

Dear Cuz GJA, Thank you for you for your thoughts and prayers. Isn't it funny how having his voice means so much... but every time I think about it I almost come to tears... a voice silenced... sigh.. weird I know but just seems odd to think of him with out his special "sound"... I am grateful for every moment we have and doubly so if we are able to keep him but this has hit me oddly about his voice... Thanks for the prayers it is appreciated. Thank you to all Cuz's that have e-mailed me privately also. Hugs Cuz B ttg-inc@attbi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa M Stirbis" <tstir@HiWAAY.net> To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 2:47 AM Subject: Re: [WINN] Back in Pocket notice 2/12/2002 > Becky, you are so thoughtful in recording your uncles' family story in his > voice & his own personal way for all to enjoy indefinitely - you have a > great treasure for future generations. > > May God's blessings be upon him always, especially through his surgery, > treatments, and days of needing strength. It seems that Kenneth has great > spirit, sure hope he does fine during his surgery & recovery. > > We missed you, cousin! > > GJA/ ts > -----Original Message----- > From: The Thill Group Inc <ttg-inc@attbi.com> > To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:52 PM > Subject: [WINN] Back in Pocket notice 2/12/2002 > > > >I am back in pocket 2/12/2002 5:35 pm central time. > >The rest of this message is off topic. > > > >As to Uncle Kenneth: They did one surgery on Monday to place a stomach peg > >[tube for feeding] for feeding while they do the removal of the voice box > >and do a neck lumpectomy deal on the lymphnodes in the neck, then when > >radiation is over and all healed they will remove the stomach peg. > > Surgery did not go well. Tuesday instead of doing the second surgery for > >removal of the voice box etc... they took him into emergency surgery to > find > >out what was wrong with the stomach "peg", etc from Monday. He came out of > >the ok, with a change of placement, sewing up the other one, and cleaning > up > >the mess. They will have him on three days of antibiotics then next week > >they will do the removal of the voice box etc... They feel the cancer is > >totally contained and that it will be fixed with the removal and the > >radiation to follow. Your prayers were heard. Thank you all. > > > > And this is something you might think about... I took with me my handy > >dandy little tape recorder that I bought at Staples for 29.95 that has one > >hour micro tapes and has a special speaker on the end so that the person > >doesn't have to hold it like a microphone, and it filters all the noise. On > >Sunday night when I arrived at the hospital, I set down with my Uncle > >Kenneth and I put the recorder [turned on] on the little table.. and we > >talked.. about old times and his growing up and about his folks and > >grandparents and how he met and married my mothers sister, and how he > >learned to be part of a "Hugging" family etc... believe it or not I have > >four hour filled tapes of my Uncle Kenneth and I reliving some history. He > >didn't want to sleep and this kept his mind off of things... but the thing > >that it gives me is the sound of his voice. It is on tape for all time. > Once > >they do the surgery next week, his voice will be gone, never to be heard > >again. Yes if all goes well and we get our prayers answered, we will have > >him and a mechanical voice box.. but it will not be my Uncle voice that I > >hear in the back of my mind in my memories... But this also gives us a tape > >recording of his family story and history. He thought it a wonderful thing > >and actually seemed to forget it was on the side taping. ...... Food for > >thought, you might do this with your families..... on the favorite > >Uncle...all my Aunts and Uncles are my favorites for different reasons, but > >this one is extra special because, as we moved so often [USArmy 37 schools > >by seventh grade], I was concerned if I ever got lost I would never find my > >family again he helped me memorize his phone number so that I could always > >call him and not be lost.... I still remember that phone number > >405-MU5-8183.. it is no longer their phone number but was until I went to > >College. It always made me feel safe to know that number... Silly? Nah love > >in the best kind. > > > >Thanks again for your prayers they are always of help. > >Thank you to all that e-mailed me privately, also. You are all special to > >me. > >Hugs one tired Cuz B > >ttg-inc@attbi.com > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "The Thill Group Inc" <ttg-inc@attbi.com> > >To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 4:00 PM > >Subject: [WYNN-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY] OUT OF POCKET NOTICE 2/9/2003 > > > > > >> Dear Cuz's, > >> I will be out of pocket from Sunday 2/9/2003 until Thursday night. > >> [leaving in a few minutes to drive to OKC, Fav Uncle is undergoing cancer > >> surgery to remove his voice box. Prayers needed] > >> > >> Hugs Cuz Becky > >> List Admin. WINN-L and Wynne Genealogy Society-:L > >> ttg-inc@attbi.com > >> http://www.ttg-inc.net > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > > > > > >

Becky, you are so thoughtful in recording your uncles' family story in his voice & his own personal way for all to enjoy indefinitely - you have a great treasure for future generations. May God's blessings be upon him always, especially through his surgery, treatments, and days of needing strength. It seems that Kenneth has great spirit, sure hope he does fine during his surgery & recovery. We missed you, cousin! GJA/ ts -----Original Message----- From: The Thill Group Inc <ttg-inc@attbi.com> To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:52 PM Subject: [WINN] Back in Pocket notice 2/12/2002 >I am back in pocket 2/12/2002 5:35 pm central time. >The rest of this message is off topic. > >As to Uncle Kenneth: They did one surgery on Monday to place a stomach peg >[tube for feeding] for feeding while they do the removal of the voice box >and do a neck lumpectomy deal on the lymphnodes in the neck, then when >radiation is over and all healed they will remove the stomach peg. > Surgery did not go well. Tuesday instead of doing the second surgery for >removal of the voice box etc... they took him into emergency surgery to find >out what was wrong with the stomach "peg", etc from Monday. He came out of >the ok, with a change of placement, sewing up the other one, and cleaning up >the mess. They will have him on three days of antibiotics then next week >they will do the removal of the voice box etc... They feel the cancer is >totally contained and that it will be fixed with the removal and the >radiation to follow. Your prayers were heard. Thank you all. > > And this is something you might think about... I took with me my handy >dandy little tape recorder that I bought at Staples for 29.95 that has one >hour micro tapes and has a special speaker on the end so that the person >doesn't have to hold it like a microphone, and it filters all the noise. On >Sunday night when I arrived at the hospital, I set down with my Uncle >Kenneth and I put the recorder [turned on] on the little table.. and we >talked.. about old times and his growing up and about his folks and >grandparents and how he met and married my mothers sister, and how he >learned to be part of a "Hugging" family etc... believe it or not I have >four hour filled tapes of my Uncle Kenneth and I reliving some history. He >didn't want to sleep and this kept his mind off of things... but the thing >that it gives me is the sound of his voice. It is on tape for all time. Once >they do the surgery next week, his voice will be gone, never to be heard >again. Yes if all goes well and we get our prayers answered, we will have >him and a mechanical voice box.. but it will not be my Uncle voice that I >hear in the back of my mind in my memories... But this also gives us a tape >recording of his family story and history. He thought it a wonderful thing >and actually seemed to forget it was on the side taping. ...... Food for >thought, you might do this with your families..... on the favorite >Uncle...all my Aunts and Uncles are my favorites for different reasons, but >this one is extra special because, as we moved so often [USArmy 37 schools >by seventh grade], I was concerned if I ever got lost I would never find my >family again he helped me memorize his phone number so that I could always >call him and not be lost.... I still remember that phone number >405-MU5-8183.. it is no longer their phone number but was until I went to >College. It always made me feel safe to know that number... Silly? Nah love >in the best kind. > >Thanks again for your prayers they are always of help. >Thank you to all that e-mailed me privately, also. You are all special to >me. >Hugs one tired Cuz B >ttg-inc@attbi.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "The Thill Group Inc" <ttg-inc@attbi.com> >To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 4:00 PM >Subject: [WYNN-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY] OUT OF POCKET NOTICE 2/9/2003 > > >> Dear Cuz's, >> I will be out of pocket from Sunday 2/9/2003 until Thursday night. >> [leaving in a few minutes to drive to OKC, Fav Uncle is undergoing cancer >> surgery to remove his voice box. Prayers needed] >> >> Hugs Cuz Becky >> List Admin. WINN-L and Wynne Genealogy Society-:L >> ttg-inc@attbi.com >> http://www.ttg-inc.net >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ >> >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > >

Does this bit help in identifying Stonewall Jackson's grandmother, Margaret Winn? > > >> >> > {I1648} Mother: <A HREF="http://members.cyberrealm.net/rockfish/database/f_5.htm#5">Cary, Anne </A>{I1710} > Winn, Margaret C. {I1727} b. 1775 Fauquier Co., Virginia Gender: Female Parents: > Father: <A HREF="http://members.cyberrealm.net/rockfish/database/f_5.htm#8">Winn, Minor </A>{I1738} Mother: <A HREF="http://members.cyberrealm.net/rockfish/database/f_5.htm#8">Withers, Elizabeth </A>{I1739} Family: > Spouse: Neale, Thomas {I1726} b. BEF. 1778 Fauquier or Loudoun Co., Virginia d. AFT. 1813 Gender: Male Children:<A HREF="http://members.cyberrealm.net/rockfish/database/f_5.htm#6">Neale, Julia Beckwith </A>{I1725} Stonewall Jackson's mother > Singleton, Joshua [aka: , Jr.] {I1756} b. ABT. 1767 Gender: Male Family: > Spouse: Winn, Nancy Withers {I1740} b. 1767 Fauquier Co., Virginia d. AFT. 1813 Gender: Female Parents: > Father: <A HREF="http://members.cyberrealm.net/rockfish/database/f_5.htm#8">Winn, Minor </A>{I1738} Mother: <A HREF="http://members.cyberrealm.net/rockfish/database/f_5.htm#8">Withers, Elizabeth </A>{I1739} > Gibson, William {I1757} b. ABT. 1759 Gender: Male Family: > Spouse: Winn, Sarah {I1741} b. ABT. 1769 Fauquier Co., Virginia d. AFT. 1813 Gender: Female Parents: > Father: <A HREF="http://members.cyberrealm.net/rockfish/database/f_5.htm#8">Winn, Minor </A>{I1738} Mother: <A HREF="http://members.cyberrealm.net/rockfish/database/f_5.htm#8">Withers, Elizabeth </A>{I1739} > O'Bannon, Isham {I1743} b. ABT. 1770 d. AFT. 1813 Gender: Male Family: > Spouse: Winn, Mary {I1742} b. ABT. 1771 Fauquier Co., Virginia d. BEF. 1813 Fauquier Co., Virginia Gender: Female Parents: > Father: <A HREF="http://members.cyberrealm.net/rockfish/database/f_5.htm#8">Winn, Minor </A>{I1738} Mother: <A HREF="http://members.cyberrealm.net/rockfish/database/f_5.htm#8">Withers, Elizabeth </A>{I1739} > Johnson, Sarah {I1745} b. ABT. 1772 Gender: Female Family: > Spouse: Winn, Thomas [aka: , Sr.] {I1744} b. 10 Mar 1772 Fauquier Co., Virginia d. 29 Dec 1855 Macon Co., Missouri Gender: Male Parents: > Father: <A HREF="http://members.cyberrealm.net/rockfish/database/f_5.htm#8">Winn, Minor </A>{I1738} Mother: <A HREF="http://members.cyberrealm.net/rockfish/database/f_5.htm#8">Withers, Elizabeth </A>{I1739} This HTML database was produced by a registered copy of<A HREF="http://members.cyberrealm.net/rockfish/database/r.htm">GED4WEB? </A>version 2.88 . Copyright 2002 Vince Hackley

I am back in pocket 2/12/2002 5:35 pm central time. The rest of this message is off topic. As to Uncle Kenneth: They did one surgery on Monday to place a stomach peg [tube for feeding] for feeding while they do the removal of the voice box and do a neck lumpectomy deal on the lymphnodes in the neck, then when radiation is over and all healed they will remove the stomach peg. Surgery did not go well. Tuesday instead of doing the second surgery for removal of the voice box etc... they took him into emergency surgery to find out what was wrong with the stomach "peg", etc from Monday. He came out of the ok, with a change of placement, sewing up the other one, and cleaning up the mess. They will have him on three days of antibiotics then next week they will do the removal of the voice box etc... They feel the cancer is totally contained and that it will be fixed with the removal and the radiation to follow. Your prayers were heard. Thank you all. And this is something you might think about... I took with me my handy dandy little tape recorder that I bought at Staples for 29.95 that has one hour micro tapes and has a special speaker on the end so that the person doesn't have to hold it like a microphone, and it filters all the noise. On Sunday night when I arrived at the hospital, I set down with my Uncle Kenneth and I put the recorder [turned on] on the little table.. and we talked.. about old times and his growing up and about his folks and grandparents and how he met and married my mothers sister, and how he learned to be part of a "Hugging" family etc... believe it or not I have four hour filled tapes of my Uncle Kenneth and I reliving some history. He didn't want to sleep and this kept his mind off of things... but the thing that it gives me is the sound of his voice. It is on tape for all time. Once they do the surgery next week, his voice will be gone, never to be heard again. Yes if all goes well and we get our prayers answered, we will have him and a mechanical voice box.. but it will not be my Uncle voice that I hear in the back of my mind in my memories... But this also gives us a tape recording of his family story and history. He thought it a wonderful thing and actually seemed to forget it was on the side taping. ...... Food for thought, you might do this with your families..... on the favorite Uncle...all my Aunts and Uncles are my favorites for different reasons, but this one is extra special because, as we moved so often [USArmy 37 schools by seventh grade], I was concerned if I ever got lost I would never find my family again he helped me memorize his phone number so that I could always call him and not be lost.... I still remember that phone number 405-MU5-8183.. it is no longer their phone number but was until I went to College. It always made me feel safe to know that number... Silly? Nah love in the best kind. Thanks again for your prayers they are always of help. Thank you to all that e-mailed me privately, also. You are all special to me. Hugs one tired Cuz B ttg-inc@attbi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Thill Group Inc" <ttg-inc@attbi.com> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 4:00 PM Subject: [WYNN-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY] OUT OF POCKET NOTICE 2/9/2003 > Dear Cuz's, > I will be out of pocket from Sunday 2/9/2003 until Thursday night. > [leaving in a few minutes to drive to OKC, Fav Uncle is undergoing cancer > surgery to remove his voice box. Prayers needed] > > Hugs Cuz Becky > List Admin. WINN-L and Wynne Genealogy Society-:L > ttg-inc@attbi.com > http://www.ttg-inc.net > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Jack, Just a quick note to say thank you, your help will be much appreciated. It's strange how Thomas's children keep changing mothers and he keeps changing wives. I hope Mildred can help us get a handle on it. It sure gets frustrating. Thank you again--Carol Jack wrote: > > Good morning Carol > > I don't have access to my computer for a few days (Had to go back to Apple) > but off the top of my head Mildred Winn did a spretty good job of > researching that Thomas. I got in to it later and questioned the mother of > Joseph because there was no Joseph prior to that in the Wynne line. She > said Joseph was an educated guess to be the son of Thomas' first wife and > she couldn't prove who that wife was. As I remember the dates didn't match > using Martha Wingfield as his first wife. Will call Millie today and see if > she will address it again. > > Jack > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Carol Ott > > To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 4:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [WINN] Re: Daniel and Sarah > > > > > > > > Hi Jack from Minnesota- what is your opinion on his marriages ? I keep > finding two or three marriages and am totally confused especially when the > children are all listed with different mothers. I am connected to all four > Thomas's and it would be nice to know what woman goes with each one. Can > you help?? Thank you in advance--Carol Winn Ott > > > > > > Jack wrote: > > > > > > I think the reason everyone is confused is most Wynn/e researchers > indicate > > > Thomas was married twice. The first to "unknown and the second time > to > > > Martha Llewellyn. > > > > > > Jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com> > > > To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:04 AM > > > Subject: [WINN] Re: Daniel and Sarah > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > list. > > > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FgWBAEB/7.56.466.469.478.489.1.1.1. > > > 2 > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > I have Daniel Winn listed as the son of Thomas Wynne and Martha > Llewellyn. > > > I have seen Thomas' wife listed as Martha Wingfield but find it > doubtful. I > > > say that because I find Martha Wingfield listed as the daughter of > Jarvis > > > Wingfield and Hannah Wynne. This Hannah Wynne was the sister of > Thomas > > > Wynne! I doubt very seriously that Martha Wingfield married her > uncle! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Good morning Carol I don't have access to my computer for a few days (Had to go back to Apple) but off the top of my head Mildred Winn did a spretty good job of researching that Thomas. I got in to it later and questioned the mother of Joseph because there was no Joseph prior to that in the Wynne line. She said Joseph was an educated guess to be the son of Thomas' first wife and she couldn't prove who that wife was. As I remember the dates didn't match using Martha Wingfield as his first wife. Will call Millie today and see if she will address it again. Jack > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Ott > To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: [WINN] Re: Daniel and Sarah > > > > Hi Jack from Minnesota- what is your opinion on his marriages ? I keep finding two or three marriages and am totally confused especially when the children are all listed with different mothers. I am connected to all four Thomas's and it would be nice to know what woman goes with each one. Can you help?? Thank you in advance--Carol Winn Ott > > > Jack wrote: > > > > I think the reason everyone is confused is most Wynn/e researchers indicate > > Thomas was married twice. The first to "unknown and the second time to > > Martha Llewellyn. > > > > Jack > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com> > > To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:04 AM > > Subject: [WINN] Re: Daniel and Sarah > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FgWBAEB/7.56.466.469.478.489.1.1.1. > > 2 > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > I have Daniel Winn listed as the son of Thomas Wynne and Martha Llewellyn. > > I have seen Thomas' wife listed as Martha Wingfield but find it doubtful. I > > say that because I find Martha Wingfield listed as the daughter of Jarvis > > Wingfield and Hannah Wynne. This Hannah Wynne was the sister of Thomas > > Wynne! I doubt very seriously that Martha Wingfield married her uncle! > > > > > > > > > > > > >

A PS to my message- The daughter Martha is the one who married Robert Wynne son of Thomas Wynne and Agnes Stith. Carol Carol Ott wrote: > > Hello everyone- I thought you might like to know that the will for Thomas > Jefferson was not for the "President" Jefferson. The will was for a Thomas > Jefferson born 1679/80 and who died about 1731-He was a justice-Chesterfield Co. > court and a high Sheriff 1718/19. He married A Mary Field who was born 1680. > His father was Thomas Jefferson born 1653 in St, Christopher Island, West Indies. > His mother was Mary Branch. They had 6 children- Field b 1702-Col. Peter b 28 > Feb 1708-Judith- Mary- Martha- Field number 2 or same unknown. Children are > same as listed in the will. > I just found this on a web site looking for some thing else but thought it might > be of help.--Good luck- Carol Winn Ott > > > > R.Smart of Ancestor-Rescue.com wrote: > > > > Thomas Jefferson, the President, died on July 4, 1826 which was the 50th > > anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, which he > > drafted. Coincidentally, John Adams, a lifelong friend of Jefferson and > > another author of the Declaration of Independence, died the same day. > > > > Unlike Adams, Jefferson died owing huge debts. The State of Virginia was > > trying to raise a lottery to help him pay off his debts but that never > > happened. I would think his will would be more involved and include mention > > of Monticello. He was also supposed to have freed the Hemmings family (5 > > blacks) in his will. His property was all sold, included 130 slaves (not > > mentioned here either) to pay some of his debts. This will doesn't seem to > > jive. > > > > Randy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > Uhhhh~~~~and which Thomas Jefferson would this be??? > > > > Andie HARRIS - Feb 9, 2003 > > > > > > > > Will of Thomas Jefferson > > > > > > > > Colonial Wills of Henrico County, Virginia, Part One 1654-1737 > > > > Abstracted and complied by Benjamin B. Weisiger III (1976) > > > > > > > > To son Field, mourning ring worth 20 shillings > > > > To son Peter, my land on Fine Creek and Manekin Creek > > > > If he dies before 21, to my three daughters, Judith, Mary and Martha. > > > > Also, to son Peter, negroes and items, some of which were bought of > > > Turpin, > > > > Joseph Wilkinson and Thomas Edwards. > > > > To daughters Mary and Martha, the land I lately bought of George Carter, > > > the > > > > land mortgaged by Grills, and all the rest of estate to be sold by Major > > > > William Kennon and Henry Wood and then L 10 to be given to my daughter > > > Judith > > > > Farrar and the rest divided between my daughters Mary and Martha. > > > > My sister Martha Winn to take care of my daughter Martha and Capt. Henry > > > > Randolph to take care of my daughter Mary. > > > > If daughters die before 21, survivor to get their share and if both die, > > > to > > > > daughter Judith Farrar. > > > > Son Peter to be executor > > > > > > > > Dated 15 March 1725 > > > > Witnesses: Benjamin Branch, Henry Moody > > > > Recorded April 1731 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I'm so sorry, Becky. Of course, my prayers are and will be with all of you. Love, Andie

In a message dated 2/9/03 1:40:31 PM Hawaiian Standard Time, tdames@worldnet.att.net writes: > Subj: Re: [WINN] THOMAS JEFFERSON??? > Date: 2/9/03 1:40:31 PM Hawaiian Standard Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:tdames@worldnet.att.net">tdames@worldnet.att.net</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:WINN-L@rootsweb.com">WINN-L@rootsweb.com</A> Carol, Thank you very much. Very enlightening.! Andie > To: <A HREF="mailto:WINN-L@rootsweb.com">WINN-L@rootsweb.com</A> > >

Carol, Thanks for the info as I was confused about the Thomas Jefferson's will. I was under the impresson that "The President Thomas Jefferson" only had 2 daughters that survived him and of course the daughter's children. And Monticello is in Albemarle Co VA. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Ott <cott@iopener.net> To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [WINN] THOMAS JEFFERSON??? > Hello everyone- I thought you might like to know that the will for Thomas Jefferson was not for the "President" Jefferson. The will was for a Thomas Jefferson born 1679/80 and who died about 1731-He was a justice-Chesterfield Co. court and a high Sheriff 1718/19. He married A Mary Field who was born 1680. His father was Thomas Jefferson born 1653 in St, Christopher Island, West Indies. His mother was Mary Branch. They had 6 children- Field b 1702-Col. Peter b 28 Feb 1708-Judith- Mary- Martha- Field number 2 or same unknown. Children are same as listed in the will. > I just found this on a web site looking for some thing else but thought it might be of help.--Good luck- Carol Winn Ott > > > > R.Smart of Ancestor-Rescue.com wrote: > > > > Thomas Jefferson, the President, died on July 4, 1826 which was the 50th > > anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, which he > > drafted. Coincidentally, John Adams, a lifelong friend of Jefferson and > > another author of the Declaration of Independence, died the same day. > > > > Unlike Adams, Jefferson died owing huge debts. The State of Virginia was > > trying to raise a lottery to help him pay off his debts but that never > > happened. I would think his will would be more involved and include mention > > of Monticello. He was also supposed to have freed the Hemmings family (5 > > blacks) in his will. His property was all sold, included 130 slaves (not > > mentioned here either) to pay some of his debts. This will doesn't seem to > > jive. > > > > Randy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > Uhhhh~~~~and which Thomas Jefferson would this be??? > > > > Andie HARRIS - Feb 9, 2003 > > > > > > > > Will of Thomas Jefferson > > > > > > > > Colonial Wills of Henrico County, Virginia, Part One 1654-1737 > > > > Abstracted and complied by Benjamin B. Weisiger III (1976) > > > > > > > > To son Field, mourning ring worth 20 shillings > > > > To son Peter, my land on Fine Creek and Manekin Creek > > > > If he dies before 21, to my three daughters, Judith, Mary and Martha. > > > > Also, to son Peter, negroes and items, some of which were bought of > > > Turpin, > > > > Joseph Wilkinson and Thomas Edwards. > > > > To daughters Mary and Martha, the land I lately bought of George Carter, > > > the > > > > land mortgaged by Grills, and all the rest of estate to be sold by Major > > > > William Kennon and Henry Wood and then L 10 to be given to my daughter > > > Judith > > > > Farrar and the rest divided between my daughters Mary and Martha. > > > > My sister Martha Winn to take care of my daughter Martha and Capt. Henry > > > > Randolph to take care of my daughter Mary. > > > > If daughters die before 21, survivor to get their share and if both die, > > > to > > > > daughter Judith Farrar. > > > > Son Peter to be executor > > > > > > > > Dated 15 March 1725 > > > > Witnesses: Benjamin Branch, Henry Moody > > > > Recorded April 1731 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I second that motion!! Like Carol, Thomas & his marriages are of definite interest to me. Any opinions from you would be much appreciated - your opinions carry more weight to me than some people's facts! Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Ott To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [WINN] Re: Daniel and Sarah Hi Jack from Minnesota- what is your opinion on his marriages ? I keep finding two or three marriages and am totally confused especially when the children are all listed with different mothers. I am connected to all four Thomas's and it would be nice to know what woman goes with each one. Can you help?? Thank you in advance--Carol Winn Ott Jack wrote: > > I think the reason everyone is confused is most Wynn/e researchers indicate > Thomas was married twice. The first to "unknown and the second time to > Martha Llewellyn. > > Jack > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com> > To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:04 AM > Subject: [WINN] Re: Daniel and Sarah > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FgWBAEB/7.56.466.469.478.489.1.1.1. > 2 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > I have Daniel Winn listed as the son of Thomas Wynne and Martha Llewellyn. > I have seen Thomas' wife listed as Martha Wingfield but find it doubtful. I > say that because I find Martha Wingfield listed as the daughter of Jarvis > Wingfield and Hannah Wynne. This Hannah Wynne was the sister of Thomas > Wynne! I doubt very seriously that Martha Wingfield married her uncle! > > > > >

I think the reason everyone is confused is most Wynn/e researchers indicate Thomas was married twice. The first to "unknown and the second time to Martha Llewellyn. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: <jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com> To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:04 AM Subject: [WINN] Re: Daniel and Sarah > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FgWBAEB/7.56.466.469.478.489.1.1.1. 2 > > Message Board Post: > > I have Daniel Winn listed as the son of Thomas Wynne and Martha Llewellyn. I have seen Thomas' wife listed as Martha Wingfield but find it doubtful. I say that because I find Martha Wingfield listed as the daughter of Jarvis Wingfield and Hannah Wynne. This Hannah Wynne was the sister of Thomas Wynne! I doubt very seriously that Martha Wingfield married her uncle! > >

Hi Jack from Minnesota- what is your opinion on his marriages ? I keep finding two or three marriages and am totally confused especially when the children are all listed with different mothers. I am connected to all four Thomas's and it would be nice to know what woman goes with each one. Can you help?? Thank you in advance--Carol Winn Ott Jack wrote: > > I think the reason everyone is confused is most Wynn/e researchers indicate > Thomas was married twice. The first to "unknown and the second time to > Martha Llewellyn. > > Jack > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jwm_genealogy@hotmail.com> > To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:04 AM > Subject: [WINN] Re: Daniel and Sarah > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FgWBAEB/7.56.466.469.478.489.1.1.1. > 2 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > I have Daniel Winn listed as the son of Thomas Wynne and Martha Llewellyn. > I have seen Thomas' wife listed as Martha Wingfield but find it doubtful. I > say that because I find Martha Wingfield listed as the daughter of Jarvis > Wingfield and Hannah Wynne. This Hannah Wynne was the sister of Thomas > Wynne! I doubt very seriously that Martha Wingfield married her uncle! > > > > >

You have them Becky, Carol Winn Ott The Thill Group Inc wrote: > > Dear Cuz's, > I will be out of pocket from Sunday 2/9/2003 until Thursday night. > [leaving in a few minutes to drive to OKC, Fav Uncle is undergoing cancer > surgery to remove his voice box. Prayers needed] > > Hugs Cuz Becky > List Admin. WINN-L and Wynne Genealogy Society-:L > ttg-inc@attbi.com > http://www.ttg-inc.net > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ >

Hello everyone- I thought you might like to know that the will for Thomas Jefferson was not for the "President" Jefferson. The will was for a Thomas Jefferson born 1679/80 and who died about 1731-He was a justice-Chesterfield Co. court and a high Sheriff 1718/19. He married A Mary Field who was born 1680. His father was Thomas Jefferson born 1653 in St, Christopher Island, West Indies. His mother was Mary Branch. They had 6 children- Field b 1702-Col. Peter b 28 Feb 1708-Judith- Mary- Martha- Field number 2 or same unknown. Children are same as listed in the will. I just found this on a web site looking for some thing else but thought it might be of help.--Good luck- Carol Winn Ott R.Smart of Ancestor-Rescue.com wrote: > > Thomas Jefferson, the President, died on July 4, 1826 which was the 50th > anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, which he > drafted. Coincidentally, John Adams, a lifelong friend of Jefferson and > another author of the Declaration of Independence, died the same day. > > Unlike Adams, Jefferson died owing huge debts. The State of Virginia was > trying to raise a lottery to help him pay off his debts but that never > happened. I would think his will would be more involved and include mention > of Monticello. He was also supposed to have freed the Hemmings family (5 > blacks) in his will. His property was all sold, included 130 slaves (not > mentioned here either) to pay some of his debts. This will doesn't seem to > jive. > > Randy > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > Uhhhh~~~~and which Thomas Jefferson would this be??? > > > Andie HARRIS - Feb 9, 2003 > > > > > > Will of Thomas Jefferson > > > > > > Colonial Wills of Henrico County, Virginia, Part One 1654-1737 > > > Abstracted and complied by Benjamin B. Weisiger III (1976) > > > > > > To son Field, mourning ring worth 20 shillings > > > To son Peter, my land on Fine Creek and Manekin Creek > > > If he dies before 21, to my three daughters, Judith, Mary and Martha. > > > Also, to son Peter, negroes and items, some of which were bought of > > Turpin, > > > Joseph Wilkinson and Thomas Edwards. > > > To daughters Mary and Martha, the land I lately bought of George Carter, > > the > > > land mortgaged by Grills, and all the rest of estate to be sold by Major > > > William Kennon and Henry Wood and then L 10 to be given to my daughter > > Judith > > > Farrar and the rest divided between my daughters Mary and Martha. > > > My sister Martha Winn to take care of my daughter Martha and Capt. Henry > > > Randolph to take care of my daughter Mary. > > > If daughters die before 21, survivor to get their share and if both die, > > to > > > daughter Judith Farrar. > > > Son Peter to be executor > > > > > > Dated 15 March 1725 > > > Witnesses: Benjamin Branch, Henry Moody > > > Recorded April 1731 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >