Hi Andie and any others who might swallow the appended Wynn genealogy: The Wynn genealogy appended by Joe Breeze and taken from the several sources listed is not valid. The error is that Owen Wynne did NOT come to Va. and did NOT have any children who did. Any and all Wynn/Wynne/Winn/Gwynns who came to Va were NOT descendants of Sir John Wynne. The parentage and ancestry of Hugh Gwynn, who DID come to Va., has never been proved, tho he undoubtedly was a part of the large extended group of Wynns in Wales of that time. Research efforts should be directed toward finding his ancestry. Va. patent records clearly show he was the patentee of the property that became known as Gwynn's Island. That said, the Gerrard family info given is very interesting and the first I have seen on her. Many thanks for that. But please don't perpetuate the myth about Owen Wynne coming to Va. Myles Johnson *********************************************************** PooolSide@aol.com wrote: > > Aloha kakahiaka! (Good morning) from Kailua, Hawai'i. > > Found the info below on the FamilyHistory.com Message Board during my > "morning surf". Does any of it look familiar and do you know if any of it > appears in a substantiated form somewhere? > > "Andie" Harris > > > > FamilyHistory.com Message Boards > Viewing records 1-2 of 2 Matches > > > Submitter: Paul Wester Gerrard > Subject: Gerrard > Message: Archibald's Father - Samuel Gerrard, Mother Sydney Gerrard > Castlecomer > > Archibald's Grandfather - Archibald Webster Gerrard (New York.) > > Possible links back to Dr Thomas Gerrard, Col. John Washington's (George > Washington ancestor)Neighbor. > > Frances Gerrard was one of Col. John Washington's wives. > > In Westmoreland there is recorded a marriage contract betwen Col. John > Washington and Frances Appleton, widow of Capt. John Appleton (nee Frances > Gerrard), dated 10 May, 1676. > > Dr. Thomas Gerrard's first wife, Susanna,was the daughter of Justinian Snow, > one of the founders of Maryland and > Lord Baltimore's factor in the Indian trade. Abel Snow, a clerk in the > chancery office, London, and Marmaduke Snow, were two other brothers(34). Dr. > Gerrard was for a long time councillor, but was finally banished from > Maryland for taking part in the insurrection of Josias Fendall in 1659. > > This line of Gerrards came from Sir Thomas Gerrard - ultimately of the > Plantagenets - being descendents of Gerald Fitzgerald who shared the favours > of Nest Tewdyyr Princess of South Wales with Henry 1st of England (William > the Conquerres son). Gerald's son Fitzgerald was also the first Fiztgerald to > enter Ireland. He invaded Ireland in 1100 (as Maurice the Invader)and became > the ruling lord in Leinster (the current province - where lies Castlecomer, > Meath and Dublin - in which many Gerrard clans are clustered). His > descendants ruled Leinster for the next 400 years. The two lines converged > again when Sidney Gerrard married Baron John Wynne of Wales - of the > Molyneux/Gerrard line. > > One of the more recent and notable Fitzgeralds was President John Fitzgerald > Kennedy. Many of the forbears of Gerald ruled in many of the European > Kingdoms and principalities. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > > Submitter: Joe Breeze > Subject: GWYNN: Wales to Mathews Co., VA > Message: Hi Gwynn researchers- > > Does anyone have reliable information to bridge the Atlantic? Most the > following information appears in Thomas Felix Hickerson?s book "Happy Valley" > published by the author in Chapel Hill, NC in 1940. Some information is from > History of the Gwydir Family by Sir John Wynn, written after 1580 (1990, > Gomer Press), and History of the Gwin Family, by Jesse Blain Gwin, 1961, > self-published. > > -Joe Breeze > > -3. Meredith Wynne of Y Gesail Gyfarch and Gwydir (d. March 1525) m. Alice, > dau. William Gruffudd (spelling in Welsh). Meredith was the first to use the > last name "Wynne" or "Wyn." Hickerson says it was Morris (-1) who adopted the > name, though a brother was John "Gwyn." > > -2. John Wynne of Gwydir (d. July 9, 1559) m. Elin, dau. Morus ap John of > Clennau (sp., Welsh) > > -1. Morris Wynne of Gwdyir m. Jane, dau. of Sir Bulkeley of Beaumaris. > Morris?s brother > > 1. Sir John Wynne of Gwydir, 1st Baronet (1553-1626/7) m. Sydney Gerrard > (dau. of William Gerard, Lord Chancelor of Ireland). They lived at Gwydir > Castle, Llanwrst, Wales (North). John Wynne chronicled history of family to > King Cymbeline, 47 AD (so he claimed). > > 2. Owen (Capt.) Wynne m. Grace Williams (d. 1667)(dau. of Hugh Williams). > Owen came to VA in 1611. Representative for London Company. Possibly granted > Gwyn Island by James I. > > Note: It is sketchy just who the father of the Col. Hugh Gwyn below is. > > 3. Hugh (Col.) Gwyn (1618-1699) m. Elizabeth (or Ann?) Fielding. Of Milford > Haven, Wales. Obtained land grant of Gwynn?s Island and 6000 acres on the > Potomac River. > > 4. John (Rev.; rector 1672-1680) Gwyn (1650-??) m. ??? > > 5. Hugh Gwyn (1702-1768) m1. Peyton Humphrey. They lived in Gwynsville, Gwyn > Island, VA. > > 6. Richard (Capt.) Gwyn (1738-1777) m1. Sarah Ransome (d. 1807). Both were > born in Gwyn Island, old Gloucester Co., VA; they possibly lived a few years > in Pittsylvania Co., VA, then in 1775 moved to the Yadkin Valley, Wilkes Co., > NC and settled at "Green Hill". He died at "Green Hill", Ronda, NC, after > contracting malaria in SC. Sarah Ransome later married Col. Thomas Lenoir (no > issue?). > > Children of Richard Gwyn and Sarah Ransome were: > > 7i. Richard Ransome Gwyn (1765-1822) m. Martha Lenoir, lived in Wilkesboro. > 7ii. Humphrey Gwyn m. (1800) Sarah Thurmond; moved to TN. > 7iii. James Gwyn (1768-1850) m. Amelia Lenoir (1765-1845/8) (dau. of Col. > Thomas Lenoir and Martha Blanche Atkinson); lived at "Green Hill", Ronda, NC. > They had Hugh Gwyn (#8, below. This is my line). > 7iv. Sarah Gwyn (d. 1817) m. Absalom Blanchard of Camden, SC, and later Pearl > River, MS. > 7v. Elizabeth Gwyn (d. 1842) m. Rev. James Jenkins (1764-1847) of Camden, SC. > > 8. Hugh Gwyn (1804-1885) m. Rosamond Dickenson (1811-1891). They lived at > "Idle Wild," Mt. Airy, NC > > 9. Amelia Gwyn (1830-1912) m. Mitchell Beverly Tate (1823-1892). They lived > near Chilhowie, Smyth County, VA > > 10. Rosamond C. Tate (1858-1891) m. William Heffernan Wren (???-1894)

Aloha kakahiaka! (Good morning) from Kailua, Hawai'i. Found the info below on the FamilyHistory.com Message Board during my "morning surf". Does any of it look familiar and do you know if any of it appears in a substantiated form somewhere? "Andie" Harris   FamilyHistory.com Message Boards  Viewing records 1-2 of 2 Matches        Submitter: Paul Wester Gerrard Subject: Gerrard Message: Archibald's Father - Samuel Gerrard, Mother Sydney Gerrard Castlecomer Archibald's Grandfather - Archibald Webster Gerrard (New York.) Possible links back to Dr Thomas Gerrard, Col. John Washington's (George Washington ancestor)Neighbor. Frances Gerrard was one of Col. John Washington's wives. In Westmoreland there is recorded a marriage contract betwen Col. John Washington and Frances Appleton, widow of Capt. John Appleton (nee Frances Gerrard), dated 10 May, 1676. Dr. Thomas Gerrard's first wife, Susanna,was the daughter of Justinian Snow, one of the founders of Maryland and Lord Baltimore's factor in the Indian trade. Abel Snow, a clerk in the chancery office, London, and Marmaduke Snow, were two other brothers(34). Dr. Gerrard was for a long time councillor, but was finally banished from Maryland for taking part in the insurrection of Josias Fendall in 1659. This line of Gerrards came from Sir Thomas Gerrard - ultimately of the Plantagenets - being descendents of Gerald Fitzgerald who shared the favours of Nest Tewdyyr Princess of South Wales with Henry 1st of England (William the Conquerres son). Gerald's son Fitzgerald was also the first Fiztgerald to enter Ireland. He invaded Ireland in 1100 (as Maurice the Invader)and became the ruling lord in Leinster (the current province - where lies Castlecomer, Meath and Dublin - in which many Gerrard clans are clustered). His descendants ruled Leinster for the next 400 years. The two lines converged again when Sidney Gerrard married Baron John Wynne of Wales - of the Molyneux/Gerrard line. One of the more recent and notable Fitzgeralds was President John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Many of the forbears of Gerald ruled in many of the European Kingdoms and principalities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Submitter: Joe Breeze Subject: GWYNN: Wales to Mathews Co., VA Message: Hi Gwynn researchers- Does anyone have reliable information to bridge the Atlantic? Most the following information appears in Thomas Felix Hickerson?s book "Happy Valley" published by the author in Chapel Hill, NC in 1940. Some information is from History of the Gwydir Family by Sir John Wynn, written after 1580 (1990, Gomer Press), and History of the Gwin Family, by Jesse Blain Gwin, 1961, self-published. -Joe Breeze -3. Meredith Wynne of Y Gesail Gyfarch and Gwydir (d. March 1525) m. Alice, dau. William Gruffudd (spelling in Welsh). Meredith was the first to use the last name "Wynne" or "Wyn." Hickerson says it was Morris (-1) who adopted the name, though a brother was John "Gwyn." -2. John Wynne of Gwydir (d. July 9, 1559) m. Elin, dau. Morus ap John of Clennau (sp., Welsh) -1. Morris Wynne of Gwdyir m. Jane, dau. of Sir Bulkeley of Beaumaris. Morris?s brother 1. Sir John Wynne of Gwydir, 1st Baronet (1553-1626/7) m. Sydney Gerrard (dau. of William Gerard, Lord Chancelor of Ireland). They lived at Gwydir Castle, Llanwrst, Wales (North). John Wynne chronicled history of family to King Cymbeline, 47 AD (so he claimed). 2. Owen (Capt.) Wynne m. Grace Williams (d. 1667)(dau. of Hugh Williams). Owen came to VA in 1611. Representative for London Company. Possibly granted Gwyn Island by James I. Note: It is sketchy just who the father of the Col. Hugh Gwyn below is. 3. Hugh (Col.) Gwyn (1618-1699) m. Elizabeth (or Ann?) Fielding. Of Milford Haven, Wales. Obtained land grant of Gwynn?s Island and 6000 acres on the Potomac River. 4. John (Rev.; rector 1672-1680) Gwyn (1650-??) m. ??? 5. Hugh Gwyn (1702-1768) m1. Peyton Humphrey. They lived in Gwynsville, Gwyn Island, VA. 6. Richard (Capt.) Gwyn (1738-1777) m1. Sarah Ransome (d. 1807). Both were born in Gwyn Island, old Gloucester Co., VA; they possibly lived a few years in Pittsylvania Co., VA, then in 1775 moved to the Yadkin Valley, Wilkes Co., NC and settled at "Green Hill". He died at "Green Hill", Ronda, NC, after contracting malaria in SC. Sarah Ransome later married Col. Thomas Lenoir (no issue?). Children of Richard Gwyn and Sarah Ransome were: 7i. Richard Ransome Gwyn (1765-1822) m. Martha Lenoir, lived in Wilkesboro. 7ii. Humphrey Gwyn m. (1800) Sarah Thurmond; moved to TN. 7iii. James Gwyn (1768-1850) m. Amelia Lenoir (1765-1845/8) (dau. of Col. Thomas Lenoir and Martha Blanche Atkinson); lived at "Green Hill", Ronda, NC. They had Hugh Gwyn (#8, below. This is my line). 7iv. Sarah Gwyn (d. 1817) m. Absalom Blanchard of Camden, SC, and later Pearl River, MS. 7v. Elizabeth Gwyn (d. 1842) m. Rev. James Jenkins (1764-1847) of Camden, SC. 8. Hugh Gwyn (1804-1885) m. Rosamond Dickenson (1811-1891). They lived at "Idle Wild," Mt. Airy, NC 9. Amelia Gwyn (1830-1912) m. Mitchell Beverly Tate (1823-1892). They lived near Chilhowie, Smyth County, VA 10. Rosamond C. Tate (1858-1891) m. William Heffernan Wren (???-1894)

Cuz Connie, sent me a copy of the print on the A.R. Wynne Papers, 1818-1866, it is not the papers themselves but a description of the papers.. it says: A.R. Wynne Papers 1818-1866, Sumner County, Tennessee These papers document the sales and purchase of merchandise, land, and slaves. Colonel A.R. Wynne resided at Castalian Springs, near the Cumberland River, in north central Tennessee. Some early letters are from William Kent who was a trader and merchant traveling through Norfolk, Virginia and points west, to his wife Betsy in Doxbury, Massachusetts. Letters to Wynne bear the imprint of such diverse locales as Natchez, New Orleans, Nashville, Columbus, and Cincinnati, and points in Texas, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, and other states. Materials on slavery include prices, market conditions, demand and availability of terms and financial instruments. The settlement of promissory notes is also documented. Land purchases were noted in North Carolina, Tennessee, Illinois, Missouri, and Iowa. Stokely Vinson is a major correspondent in many of these issues. 1489 Introductory Materials 2 frames. Papers 1491 A.R. Wynne, 1818, 4 frames 1495 A. R. Wynne, 1830-1839, 5 frames 1500 A.R. Wynne, 1840-1849 28 frames 1528 A.R. Wynne, 1850-1859 22 frames 1550 A.R. Wynne, 1860-1866, 3 frames 1553 A.R. Wynne, n.d. 4 frames If anyone knows who this is let me know!! Hope this helps? Hugs Cuz B ttg-inc@attbi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Thill Group Inc" <ttg-inc@attbi.com> To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: [WINN] A. R. Wynne Papers > Dear Cuz's, > Cuz Connie from the other list, found this and shared it with us, but I > think it may be of interest to the Southern Wynne's [all spellings] If it > helps, great! If you have any questions, e-mail Connie directly at > GramereC@aol.com She is working both sides of the Wynne's trying to help > straighten out the lines. > Here's her message: [if you know who this A. R. Wynne is let me know!!] > > From: <GramereC@aol.com> > To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:54 AM > Subject: [WGS] A.R. Wynne Papers > > On Micro Film > > "Records of Ante-bellum Southern Plantations from the Revolution through the > Civil War" Series F Selections from the Manuscript Department, Duke > University Library > Part 1: The Deep South Part 2: South Carolina and Georgia. Edited by Kenneth > M Stampp, Randolph Boehm, guide compiled by Martin Schipper. > > A Microform Project of University Publications of America, Inc., 44 North > Market St., Frederick, MD 21701 > > Frames No. 1489-1553 are the plantation records of sales purchases > merchandise, land, and slaves of Col. A.R. Wynne residing at Castalian > Springs, near the Cumberland River in NORTH CENTRAL TENNESSEE. Letters from > Willam Kent trader from Norfolk Virginia, and to his wife BETSY in DOXBURY > MASSACHUSETTS. > > Land Purchase are in North Carolina, Tennessee, Illinois, Missouri, and > Iowa. > > > Haven't looked at the film yet has any one else seen these? > > Connie Cole > > E-mail her if you have any questions! > Cuz Becky > ttg-inc@attbi.com > http://www.ttg-inc.net > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ >

Dear Cuz's, Cuz Connie from the other list, found this and shared it with us, but I think it may be of interest to the Southern Wynne's [all spellings] If it helps, great! If you have any questions, e-mail Connie directly at GramereC@aol.com She is working both sides of the Wynne's trying to help straighten out the lines. Here's her message: [if you know who this A. R. Wynne is let me know!!] From: <GramereC@aol.com> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:54 AM Subject: [WGS] A.R. Wynne Papers On Micro Film "Records of Ante-bellum Southern Plantations from the Revolution through the Civil War" Series F Selections from the Manuscript Department, Duke University Library Part 1: The Deep South Part 2: South Carolina and Georgia. Edited by Kenneth M Stampp, Randolph Boehm, guide compiled by Martin Schipper. A Microform Project of University Publications of America, Inc., 44 North Market St., Frederick, MD 21701 Frames No. 1489-1553 are the plantation records of sales purchases merchandise, land, and slaves of Col. A.R. Wynne residing at Castalian Springs, near the Cumberland River in NORTH CENTRAL TENNESSEE. Letters from Willam Kent trader from Norfolk Virginia, and to his wife BETSY in DOXBURY MASSACHUSETTS. Land Purchase are in North Carolina, Tennessee, Illinois, Missouri, and Iowa. Haven't looked at the film yet has any one else seen these? Connie Cole E-mail her if you have any questions! Cuz Becky ttg-inc@attbi.com http://www.ttg-inc.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/

Aloha, Cuzzies! 6:15 am our here in the Pacific. I discovered the info below during my morning surf. Whaddaya think? Here's the url. <A HREF="Descendance de Phillipe le Beau">.http://www.ping.be/~jos81/link/philippides/phzx9.htm</A> Me ke aloha, Cuzzin Andie * * DESCENDANCE DE PHILIPPE LE BEAU. * * t.zx9 15 OCT 1997 mises à jour (repérées sous:[P.Theroff]) à l'aide du fichier "The Descendants of King James I (Paul Theroff's Royal Genealogy Site)" 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 Henrietta Antonia CLIVE (1786-1835) <A HREF="http://216.239.39.100/phzx7.htm#zx9">t.zx7</A> x Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1772-1840) +> Henrietta Charlotte WILLIAMS-WYNN (?-1878) <A HREF="http://216.239.39.100/phzxa.htm">--> t.zxa</A> ¦ x Hugh WILLIAMS (1802-1876) +> Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1820-1885) ¦ x Mary Emily WILLIAMS-WYNN (1827-1905) ¦ +> Ne. WILLIAMS-WYNN ¦ +> Louisa Alexandra WILLIAMS-WYNN (?-1911) ¦ x (Herbert Llyod) Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1860-1944) <A HREF="http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:oY1x7FCvVzkC:www.ping.be/~jos81/link/philippides/#2">WYNN</A> ¦ +> Gwladys Elin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1885-1956) ¦ ¦ x Walter Roger Owen KYNASTON (?-1935) ¦ ¦ +> John Roger KYNASTON (1914- ) ¦ ¦ x Eila Gwendoline MURRAY ¦ +> Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1891-1949) ¦ ¦ x Daisy HOUGHTON (?-1977) ¦ ¦ +> (Margaret) Helen WILLIAMS-WYNN ¦ ¦ ¦ x Hubert Charles Paulet HAMILTON ¦ ¦ ¦ .+> Andrew Paulet HAMILTON (1943- ) ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ x Susan ALEXANDER ¦ ¦ ¦ xx Richard Bertram VERDIN (?-1978) ¦ ¦ ¦ +> Alistair Richard Norman VERDIN (1963- ) ¦ ¦ +> Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1925-1946) ¦ ¦ +> Bronwen Mary WILLIAMS-WYNN (?-1965) ¦ ¦ ¦ x Michael Rowland Godfrey LLEWELYN ¦ ¦ +> Joan WILLIAMS-WYNN ¦ ¦ x Geoffrey Richard Michael SEWELL (1921-?) ¦ ¦ +> David Nigel Wynn SEWELL (1953- ) ¦ ¦ +> Mark Geoffrey SEWELL (1955- ) ¦ ¦ ¦ x1982 Elizabeth Mary Alexandra Fraser[P.Theroff] ¦ ¦ ¦ +> Emma Lucy Alexandra Sewell, b.1985[P.Theroff] ¦ ¦ ¦ +> *Rosanna Mary Alice Sewell, b.1986[P.Theroff] ¦ ¦ ¦ +> *Lucinda Charlotte Anne Sewell, b.1993[P.Theroff] ¦ ¦ +> (Charles) Percy SEWELL (1958- ) ¦ ¦ x (Alice) Louise Esther HUNTINGTON WHITELEY (1961- ). <<<< < Ferdinand I v.HABSBURG ¦ ¦ +> *Henry SEWELL (Harry) (1988- ) ¦ ¦ +> *Benjamin SEWELL (1990- ) ¦ +> Constance Mary WILLIAMS-WYNN (1895-?) ¦ x Guy Charles MOSTYN-OWEN (1892-?) +> Herbert Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1822-1862) x Anna LLYOD (?-1926) +> Edward Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1857-1880) +> Helen Florentia WILLIAMS-WYNN (1858-1956) +> (Herbert Llyod) Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1860-1944) ¦ x Louisa Alexandra WILLIAMS-WYNN (?-1911) <A HREF="http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:oY1x7FCvVzkC:www.ping.be/~jos81/link/philippides/#1">WYNN</A> ¦ +> * FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FGwladys Elin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1885-1956) ¦ +> *Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1891-1949) ¦ +> *Constance Mary WILLIAMS-WYNN (1895-?) +> Robert William Herbert Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1862-1951) x Elizabeth Ida LOWTHER (?-1970) +> (Owen) Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1904-1988) ¦ x Margaret Jean MACBEAN (?-1961) ¦ .+> David Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1940- ) ¦ .¦ x1968 (div 1981) Harriet Elspeth Tailyour[P.Theroff] ¦ .¦ .+> Charles Edward Watkin Williams-Wynn, b.1970[P.Theroff] ¦ .¦ .+> Alexandra June Williams-Wynn, b.1972[P.Theroff] ¦ .¦ .+> Lucinda Jean Williams-Wynn, b.1972[P.Theroff] ¦ .¦ .+> Robert Euan Watkin Williams-Wynn, b.1977[P.Theroff] ¦ .¦ xx1983 Victoria Jane de Ath[P.Theroff] ¦ .¦ +> Nicholas Watkin Williams-Wynn, b.1988[P.Theroff] ¦ .¦ +> Harry Watkin Williams-Wynn, b.1988[P.Theroff] ¦ .+> Robert Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1948-1972) ¦ xx1968 Gabrielle Caffin[P.Theroff] +> Joyce WILLIAMS-WYNN (1906- ) ¦ x Duncan ROBERTSON (1900-1987) ¦ +> Sheila Ann ROBERTSON (1929-1987) ¦ ¦ x Henry Saxon TATE (1931- ) ¦ ¦ .+> Edward Nicholas TATE (1966- ) ¦ ¦ .+> Duncan Saxon TATE (1968- ) ¦ ¦ .+> John William TATE (1969- ) ¦ ¦ .+> Paul Henry TATE (1969- ) ¦ ¦ xx1976 Humphrey Sandford[P.Theroff] ¦ +> Jean Margaret ROBERTSON (1932- ) ¦ ¦ x Miles de Wend GREENWELL ¦ ¦ +> Rupert Peter GREENWELL (1959- ) ¦ ¦ +> James Robertson GREENWELL (1963-1982) ¦ ¦ +> Duncan Charles de Wend GREENWELL (1966- ) ¦ +> Bridget Jennifer ROBERTSON (1935- ) ¦ x John Edward Southwell RUSSELL (1928- ) +> Edward Watkin WILLIAMS-WYNN (1908-1977) ¦ x Roma Sunderland MATHESON +> Margaret WILLIAMS-WYNN (1911- ) x Peter HOTHAM (1904-1991) +> Caroline Alathea HOTHAM (1937- ) ¦ x Harry LLEWELLYN-DAVIES (?-1981) ¦ +> Catherine Margaret LLEWELLYN-DAVIES (1962- ) ¦ +> Thora Lucinda LLEWELLYN-DAVIES (1965- ) +> Mary Elizabeth HOTHAM (1940- ) ¦ x Peter HARMAN ¦ +> Andrew Charles Harman, b.1967[P.Theroff] ¦ +> Nicola Jane Harman, b.1969[P.Theroff] +> Edward Durand HOTHAM (1944- ) x1982 Susan Elizabeth Tilley[P.Theroff]

Silly wabbit!! Glad you had fun. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: The Thill Group Inc To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 10:22 PM Subject: [WINN] Back In Pocket 3/30/2003 Dear Cuz's, I am back in pocket, and all is well. [Great Race of Texas was fantastic!!!! So much fun, but BOY was it HARD!!!, learned a lot didn't get lost did well in the race, fun fun fun.. and one of the Cuz's came over and met me at the hotel, sure wish we had had more time, but maybe she will make it to the Butler Ohio research reunion in the fall. There was 81 teams in the Race, Out of that 81, 17 were rookies, Of the 17, Mom and I had 8 better than we were and 8 worse than we were, so I don't think we did bad!!!] Hugs Cuz Becky List Admin. WGS & WINN-L ttg-inc@attbi.com http://www.ttg-inc.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/

Dear Lisa, We had so much fun, and at one point we were laughing so hard we had tears in our eyes and we missed three signs and couldn't see the speedometer, and had to regroup and catch up !!!!! But man it was HARD WORK!!! Glad we went it was wonderful. Hugs Cuz B ttg-inc@attbi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phoenix" <phoenix@wnonline.net> To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [WINN] Back In Pocket 3/30/2003 > Silly wabbit!! > > Glad you had fun. > > Lisa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: The Thill Group Inc > To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 10:22 PM > Subject: [WINN] Back In Pocket 3/30/2003 > > > Dear Cuz's, > I am back in pocket, and all is well. > > [Great Race of Texas was fantastic!!!! So much fun, but BOY was it HARD!!!, > learned a lot didn't get lost did well in the race, fun fun fun.. and one of > the Cuz's came over and met me at the hotel, sure wish we had had more time, > but maybe she will make it to the Butler Ohio research reunion in the fall. > There was 81 teams in the Race, Out of that 81, 17 were rookies, Of the 17, > Mom and I had 8 better than we were and 8 worse than we were, so I don't > think we did bad!!!] > > Hugs > Cuz Becky > List Admin. WGS & WINN-L > ttg-inc@attbi.com > http://www.ttg-inc.net > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ > >

Dear Cuz's, I am back in pocket, and all is well. [Great Race of Texas was fantastic!!!! So much fun, but BOY was it HARD!!!, learned a lot didn't get lost did well in the race, fun fun fun.. and one of the Cuz's came over and met me at the hotel, sure wish we had had more time, but maybe she will make it to the Butler Ohio research reunion in the fall. There was 81 teams in the Race, Out of that 81, 17 were rookies, Of the 17, Mom and I had 8 better than we were and 8 worse than we were, so I don't think we did bad!!!] Hugs Cuz Becky List Admin. WGS & WINN-L ttg-inc@attbi.com http://www.ttg-inc.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FgWBAEB/665 Message Board Post: I checked some 1800's land records in King William. Info there on Gloucester Winn, Sarah Winn, Polly Winn, Polly Winn land to Ann Adams. Oney Winn, Ferdinand Winn, etc. Ken They were parts of the old burned records.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FgWBAEB/664 Message Board Post: Hi... In researching the Hale's in my family...I found an Elizabeth Hale, born 1797 in SC, living with her daughter MARGARET WINN. This was in the 1880 Cumberland, TN Census. I don't know if this is my GGGGrandmother Elizabeth or not. She was a Crow before she married ? Hale. Her Son, William Hale married Martha Hawk, (GGGrandparents). They had John Wesley, who married Hattie Catharine Gilley, (GGrandparents.) They had Alonzo JLee Hale, who married Mattie Pearl Driver, (Grandparents). They had among others, my Mother, Lonnie Pearl Hale. Does anyone have an Elizabeth Hale in their ancestory? Born around 1800, give or take? Thanks, Debbie

I will be out of pocket Wednesday morning 3/26/2003 until Sunday Evening [I am going to San Marcos, Texas for a Great Race Rally, 3 day vintage car race. If your in the area of San Marcos Friday or Saturday evening we will be at the Holiday Inn Express, with a slew of antique cars! Mom and I are in one vehicle, Dad and Nephew will be in another, we are called the Wynne Troupe and the Wynne Troupettes =)] Should there be any problems I will handle them on my return Sunday Evening. Becky Thill List Admin. WINN-L & WGS-L ttg-inc@attbi.com http://www.ttg-inc.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/

Myles: My question was inexact, thanks you. I assumed it was source, couldn't figure out why I kept seeing just SOUR. Thanks Brian Winn -----Original Message----- From: Myles Johnson [mailto:mylesj@his.com] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 5:06 PM To: WINN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WINN] question for someone Hi Brian, I think it indicates "source" and comes from the gedcom name for that field. When people import a gedcom, it will appear. Myles Johnson ********************************************* Brian Winn wrote: > > I've seen 'SOUR' in several family trees on the internet. > > Would someone please tell me what it means? > > Thanks > > Brian Winn

Hi Brian, I think it indicates "source" and comes from the gedcom name for that field. When people import a gedcom, it will appear. Myles Johnson ********************************************* Brian Winn wrote: > > I've seen 'SOUR' in several family trees on the internet. > > Would someone please tell me what it means? > > Thanks > > Brian Winn

Do you know who the parents of your Henry were? The Joseph I am researching was born circa 1825. Kathleen Pebley Winn

I'm sorry, I don't know if the Joseph Y. Winn I am researching had any siblings. He is my proverbial brick wall. Thanks for asking. Kathleen Pebley Winn

Hello. Did you know if Joseph Winn had any sisters? I am searching for the family of Susannah (Winn). Thanks. Anne

I've seen 'SOUR' in several family trees on the internet. Would someone please tell me what it means? Thanks Brian Winn

You're absolutely right about the high calibre...in fact, most other "lists" can't live up to this one at all. I have belonged to several as I'm sure all of you have and I've only "stuck" with about half of them. Even those don't hold a candle to this one. With this high quality site I was able to document 23 generations of my maternal family and when I started I only knew that the people who could have told me anything at all had already died. Needless to say I was discouraged before I had even started. I've been forever grateful to this site and the warm-hearted and expert people who frequent it. "Que VIVA la WINN-List forever!" <GRIN> Andie Harris

Just did not want this become like one list I was on. It was personal stuff. Carolyn Thomas Platt N. Myrtle Beach, SC tgr2ctp@aol.com

Dear Carolyn, I try to remind people when they do put something out here that is not genealogy based to place the "Off Topic" note in the subject line so that you can delete to your hearts content. The only exception to that is my note to the group [Out of pocket] so the list is aware of when the list is unattended. Becky Thill List Admin. ttg-inc@attbi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tgr2ctp@aol.com> To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [WINN] Back in Pocket 3/20/2003 - O/T news > Just did not want this become like one list I was on. It was personal stuff. > > Carolyn Thomas Platt > N. Myrtle Beach, SC > tgr2ctp@aol.com >