Dear Cuzzins...I've been trying to expand my GERRARD (as in William and Sydney) knowledge the past few days and in going to the GoIreland.com website, I found this which I think is interesting enough to share with you, considering our forebear Gruffyd,et al.. Cuzzin Andie in Kailua, Hawai'i Pooolside@aol.comOiffin, (Griffith) <A HREF="http://www.goireland.com/Genealogy/Html/ancestor_search.htm">Trace your ancestor here</A> O Griobhta (pronounced O Greefa) is one of the many Gaelic surnames which have assumed in their anglicized forms those of British families of somewhat similar sound: in this case the earlier O'Griffy has been almost entirely superseded by Griffin. Here some confusion arises because a Welsh family of Griffin did actually settle in Ireland soon after the Anglo-Norman invasion. There is no doubt, however, that the great majority of Irish Griffins are really O'Griffys of Gaelic stock and not descendants of the Welsh settlers. They are very numerous and the name with an estimated population to-day of over eight thousand persons, stands seventy-fifth in the list of commonest Irish surnames. These are chiefly found in Munster - Counties Clare, Limerick, Kerry and Cork. There was a minor sept of O'Griffy situated south of the Kenmare river, whose existence is recorded as late as the sixteenth century, their location being indicated by the place-name Ballygriffin: little is known of them and they appear to have been absorbed by their powerful neighbours the O'Sullivans. It is possible that some of the Kerry and Cork Griffins are descended from that sept; but Griffin is predominantly a Thomond name. The head of the O'Greefa, or O'Grifee, sept (so it was first spelt in English) was chief under the O'Deas of a territory in the south-eastern part of the barony of Inchiquin, Co. Clare, their seat being the castle of Ballygriffy, in the parish of Dysart, near Ennis. Gerald Griffin (1803-1840), best known as the author of that great Irish novel The Collegians, was of this leading O'Griffy family. Also in the literary sphere the Gaelic poet Muiris O Griofa, or Maurice Griffin (d. c. 1778) may be mentioned (Mr. Basil O'Connell's genealogical researches have led him to believe that Maurice Griffin was of a Co. Monaghan family which migrated to Co. Kerry in the eighteenth century). The name is occasionally anglicized Griffith, but most Griffiths in Ireland are of Welsh origin. That name has been made illustrious in Irish affairs by several outstanding men, particularly by Sir John Griffith (1784-1878), the geologist and civil engineer, and by Arthur Griffith (1872-1922), founder with Edward Martyn of Sinn Fein, and president of Dail Eireann.

I found some information that I didn't have and thought might be new to some others also or may be old stuff that I just didn't have. The book is: Our Early Emigrant Ancestors: The Original Lists of Persons of Quality; 1600-1700. From MSS. preserved in the state paper department of her majesty's public record office, England. Edited by John Camden Hotten Baltimore, Genealogical Publishing Company 1968, originally published New York, 1880. Page 486 Parrish of Christ Church 22 December 1679 Wynn, Richard 60 acres land, 8 negroes Page 121 Christopher Wynn age 20 imbarqued in the Safety 10 August 1635 Page 125 Jo. Wynn age 25 imbarqued in the George, 21 August ____

There is a marriage record from Amelia County,VA Marriage bonds for John Winn m. Mary Williams, 1 Nov. 1783, Sur. Wood Hones. Anyone know which John Winn this is? Cindy

In a message dated 4/9/03 1:51:25 PM Hawaiian Standard Time, ttg-inc@attbi.com writes: > You now know everything I know about her family. > > Thanks, Becky! > > Cuz Andie

Has anyone worked on the GERRARD family line and, if so, do you know who the first GERRARD of that line was to come to America? I'm very interested in the GERRARDS but haven't had much success in tying them together. If you have, will you please share with me? Thank you. Andie Harris Kailua, Hawai'i

You now know everything I know about her family. =) Descendants of William Gerrard 1 20421 William Gerrard, "knight, Chancellor of Ireland" 2 20420 Sydney Gerrard .... +22844 Sion (John Wyn) ap Meredydd b: 1495 Gwydir d: July 9, 1559 Plas Mawr, Conway, N. Wales, says 1553 Cuz B ttg-inc@attbi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <PooolSide@aol.com> To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 6:19 PM Subject: [WINN] Sydney GERRARD Genealogy > > > Has anyone worked on the GERRARD family line and, if so, do you know who the > first GERRARD of that line was to come to America? I'm very interested in the > GERRARDS but haven't had much success in tying them together. If you have, > will you please share with me? Thank you. > > Andie Harris > Kailua, Hawai'i > >

Is William Winn of Craven County, SC and Camden, SC the father of Mary Winn who married William Reese Busbee (Busby). A grandson of Mary and William Reese Busbee, Reese Schofield of Crawford County, Georgia said his grandparents were born in SC. He also named her as Mary Winn. There is a William Winn who is in the same vincinity as the Busbee family in SC - along the Broad river and his land abutted Miles Busby. The reason we had suspected William Winn to be Mary Winn's father, is that there was a William Winn at Little Union Baptist Church in Crawford County, Ga in the correct timeframe. If anyone has looked at the William Winn's noted in the South Carolina Online Archives collection and has more information about this family, I would be interested in sharing information. Thanks Gaila

In a message dated 4/8/03 7:50:49 PM Hawaiian Standard Time, ttg-inc@attbi.com writes: > Thanks,Cuz Becky! Kewl! Cuz Andie

I am a "list lurker" because of my Floyd connection to the family of James Winn-Hannah Withers. I located some records for Robert FLOYD b. 1820 KY d. 1860 Franklin Co., FL in the records of Trinity Episcopal Church, Apalachicola FL. One of those records was a baptism for twins born to Robert Floyd and his wife, Georgianne JOHNSON. One set of baptismal sponsors was Dr. Horace ELY and his 2nd wife, Charlotte DAFFIN Ely. In digging around I found burial records online for St. Luke's Episcopal Church in Marianna, FL. Also buried there are ELY, DAFFIN, ROULHAC, GORRIE and WYNN family members. I throw in the Gorrie because Gabriel J. Floyd, who is either the son or nephew of Robert Floyd, married Sarah Gorrie, daughter of Dr. John Gorrie, inventor of refrigeration. I have a confirmation record for Mrs. Sarah Floyd at St. Luke's in 1866. ROULHAC was the maiden name of Dr. Horace Ely's first wife. The cemetery records are listed at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~fljackso/cemeteries/StLukesList.htm with more detailed records of some of the burials at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~fljackso/cemeteries/StLukeswnc.htm Colbert Baker Wynn and his wife Mary Ward Wynn appear to be the first generation of Wynns there. One of the baptism sponsors for the second set of Floyd twins was a Baker JOHNSON. What his relationship was to Georgianne Johnson Floyd is not known, but one of the twins was named Baker Johnson Floyd. I found information regarding Horace Ely and Charlotte Daffin at: http://www.edenfield.org/dbase/dbase19/abm00054.htm Regards, Alex Luken

http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/etext04/spbd10h.htm THE VISIONS OF THE SLEEPING BARD BEING ELLIS WYNNE'S "Gweledigaetheu y Bardd Cwsc" Translated by Robert Gwyneddon Davies My best thanks are due to the Rev. J. W. Wynne Jones, M.A., Vicar of Carnarvon, for much help and valuable criticism; to the Rev. R Jones, MA., Rector of Llanfair-juxta-Harlech, through whose courtesy I am enabled to produce (from a photograph by Owen, Barmouth) a page of the register of that parish, containing entries in Ellis Wynne's handwriting; and to Mr. Isaac Foulkes, Liverpool, for the frontispiece, which appeared in his last edition of the Bardd Cwsc. R. GWYNEDDON DAVIES. Caernarvon, 1st July, 1897. go to the above noted web site to read the book. Cuz Becky ttg-inc@attbi.com http://www.ttg-inc.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FgWBAEB/398.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Rie Ever hear of a lady named Alida Winn of Cayuga County, NY? She married first Orin Hutchinson (1 daughter Missouri born 1845) and second Peter Helm. Peter and Alida are buried in the Bird Cemetery in Locke, NY. Thanks. Joe McDonough

Dear Princess Vi, Ummmm winter weather? I am running around in shorts and a T-shirt it is so hot and humid here. Had hail and rain last night and heat, sunshine and high humidity today. Can't wait for Cancun!!! 21 days and counting!!! Hugs Princess B of the south ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Alban" <davidvi@uslink.net> To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [WINN] Off Topic-Needing advice > Yvonne, > Most people would laugh if they knew I was trying to give computer advice! > I'm not familiar with your machine at all, but last year we got illegal > operation warnings for six months before I finally had the sense to call > our internet service to see what they thought. I also consulted my > stepson who was for Unisys as a computer trouble-shooter. No luck from > anyone. Finally, I got an explanation that I couldn't really understand > enough to repeat, but it resulted in our getting a new computer. That > may sound like bad news $$$$ wise, but at least I don't feel like > throwing the computer out of our windows any more. > > Wondering how our Texas Princess is faring in her winter weather. Feel > like you're back in Wisconsin, Becky????????????? > Vi > > Yvonne Kinsey wrote: > > >When looking at the census on ancestry.com, I can only search between 3-5 pages before the page either goes solid black or I get a message that my program has performed an illegal act and in both cases I have to close out and start all over. > > > >Has anyone else had this problem or knows what is causing it? Better yet, does anyone know how to correct it? Thank you for your help and patience. > > > >Yvonne > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Yvonne, Did you down load the deal that Ancestry.com has for reading the census's? Because I had the same problem until I down loaded it. It doesn't take up much space but seems to make a difference when you look at the census's. Hugs Cuz B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne Kinsey" <Yvonne@dc.rr.com> To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 6:05 PM Subject: [WINN] Off Topic-Needing advice > When looking at the census on ancestry.com, I can only search between 3-5 pages before the page either goes solid black or I get a message that my program has performed an illegal act and in both cases I have to close out and start all over. > > Has anyone else had this problem or knows what is causing it? Better yet, does anyone know how to correct it? Thank you for your help and patience. > > Yvonne > >

Yvonne, Most people would laugh if they knew I was trying to give computer advice! I'm not familiar with your machine at all, but last year we got illegal operation warnings for six months before I finally had the sense to call our internet service to see what they thought. I also consulted my stepson who was for Unisys as a computer trouble-shooter. No luck from anyone. Finally, I got an explanation that I couldn't really understand enough to repeat, but it resulted in our getting a new computer. That may sound like bad news $$$$ wise, but at least I don't feel like throwing the computer out of our windows any more. Wondering how our Texas Princess is faring in her winter weather. Feel like you're back in Wisconsin, Becky????????????? Vi Yvonne Kinsey wrote: >When looking at the census on ancestry.com, I can only search between 3-5 pages before the page either goes solid black or I get a message that my program has performed an illegal act and in both cases I have to close out and start all over. > >Has anyone else had this problem or knows what is causing it? Better yet, does anyone know how to correct it? Thank you for your help and patience. > >Yvonne > > > > >

Hi, I have not had that problem before. I could always access the pages. However, last week, i got a message that the pages were not available. Thats in Virginia....... Hey folks I get very little info on the Winns from Virginia. Gloucester Winn had several children. I looked at some old King William County partially burned records, and his children were tied into with the Indians in King William, the present day Upper Mattaponi. and one gchild went to join the Chickahominy. Ken Adams,,,,,,Polly Winn sold some land to Ann Adams, and other things too....... , At one time the Upper Mattaponi were called the Adamstown Band. The Thill Group Inc <ttg-inc@attbi.com> wrote:Dear Yvonne, Did you down load the deal that Ancestry.com has for reading the census's? Because I had the same problem until I down loaded it. It doesn't take up much space but seems to make a difference when you look at the census's. Hugs Cuz B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne Kinsey" To: Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 6:05 PM Subject: [WINN] Off Topic-Needing advice > When looking at the census on ancestry.com, I can only search between 3-5 pages before the page either goes solid black or I get a message that my program has performed an illegal act and in both cases I have to close out and start all over. > > Has anyone else had this problem or knows what is causing it? Better yet, does anyone know how to correct it? Thank you for your help and patience. > > Yvonne > > --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more

When looking at the census on ancestry.com, I can only search between 3-5 pages before the page either goes solid black or I get a message that my program has performed an illegal act and in both cases I have to close out and start all over. Has anyone else had this problem or knows what is causing it? Better yet, does anyone know how to correct it? Thank you for your help and patience. Yvonne

Marriages of Lunenburg County Virginia 1746-1853; compiled and published by Emma R. Matheny and Helen K. Yates, p. 137 shows that John WINN married Myrtila MINOR on 14 Dec 1787 (married by Thomas CRYMES). Found in Will Book 3:309.

David, Is this your ancestry? I would like to compare notes, I suspect we have some common threads. Looking forward to hearing from you. Phyllis pphillips3@kc.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Alban" <davidvi@uslink.net> To: <WINN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 4:53 AM Subject: [WINN] Query for the group > Does anyone have information on a Joshua R. Wynn, b. IN 1830 m. Julia > Rose Callum, b. 1845 Maryland? > Vi > > >

In a message dated 4/3/03 3:29:14 PM Hawaiian Standard Time, mylesj@his.com writes: > But please don't perpetuate the myth about Owen Wynne coming to Va. Oh no! I won't, you can be sure. That's why I asked my knowledgable cousins on the WINN list. Thanks, Myles. I'll delete the whole thing from its "holding pen". Cousin Andie