My great grandmother, Minnie Snyder and her sister Dorothy Snyder came from Cattaragus Co. NY. They both married in Monroe County. Dorothy (Dora) Snyder married Charles Rumppe in 1855 and Wilhelmina (Minnie) married George Wilgrubs in 1863. Their mother, Elizabeth Magdalena Anna (Rosenow) Schneider also spelled Snyder or Snider, also came after the death of her husband in 1859. They had arrived as a family in the US in 1852 from Drusewitz, Mechlenburg. Some associated surnames were Berg and Job. John Gamerdinger ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: [WIMONROE] Cattaraugus County NY Settlers > I am interested in anyone who had their ancestors in Monroe County, WI during > the mid-late 1800s, that came from Cattaraugus County New York. > > I saw a statement that the area was settled "by Cattaraugus County NY > residents" > > My Farnham ancestors, that were in Leon in the 1870s, were from Cattaraugus > Co NY. Have not seen any familiar name in Monroe Co Wis. Don't even know > why my ancestors went to Monroe Co, so I suspect with the above statement, > they knew someone in the area before coming. "Who were they???" > > Susanne Farnham-Hieber > [email protected] > >

I've been reading the digest for a long time, this is my first time posting! My Monroe County surnames are: Kindt, Hubert, Schendel/Schindler, Jesse, Sonnenberg. Gruening, primarily from the Wilton area. Thanks, Wendy Murkve Madison WI

Happy New Year to all -- My great grandparents were settled in Sparta about 1857 with their four children and had five more in Sparta. Those children married: Zack MARTIN; John B. CHANDLER; Edward STITT and Philip SAYLOR. I'd particularly like to know something about these men. Also - one of the OSTER sons was Lewis Graves Oster. I saw two Lewis Graves in the Sparta history...does anyone know anything about Lewis GRAVES? Nancy, Neptune, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Kate <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: [WIMONROE] Roll Call of Names > Good idea! May I add my names? > > CLARK CARPENTER > > Thanks, > > Katherine Stevenson > >

Katherine - Was Abigail's maiden name Carpenter? Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 22:42 Subject: Re: [WIMONROE] Roll Call of Names > > Hi Cheryl: > > My Abigail Carpenter married Archibald Carnahan. Therefore, not a match. > Sorry. > > Katherine > > >

You know for the virtual small farming towns in Monroe County...I sure have heard a lot of names I haven't before. <pout> The Honl's were farmers. ~ Having a wonderful time, wish I were here. Goodmorning 2001!~ Honl Family Genealogy Austria/Bohemia/Germany/Prussia http://home.swbell.net/stonfree/

[email protected] wrote: > > I am interested in anyone who had their ancestors in Monroe County, WI during > the mid-late 1800s, that came from Cattaraugus County New York. Some of my gr-gr-grandmother's brothers and sisters went from Cattaraugus Co. NY to Monroe County WI in the mid 1800's. George HARVEY, b. abt. 1815 - died in Monroe Co. WI 8 Aug 1867. Julia Ann HARVEY, b. abt. 1826 - Married Hiram Foot FOSTER. Julia Ann (Harvey) FOSTER died 11 Jun 1900 in Monroe Co. WI Hiram Foot FOSTER died 4 Jan 1889 in Monroe Co. WI. Also: Susan HARVEY B. 1805 and her husband Cranson WILLIAMS moved from Cattaraugus Co. NY to Wisconsin but settled in Jackson Co. Ginny Deagan -- Tom & Ginny Deagan's Home Page: http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~gdeagan An Index to the Genealogical Web Pages that I have Online: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~vgdeagan/index.htm My New England, New York and Pennsylvania Families Escambia Co. FLGenWeb page http://www.rootsweb.com/~flescamb/index.htm

Dear Friends, I post this every year with the hope that this might click with someone . I am looking for information about Edgar Hubbard who was a resident of Sparta, Wisconsin around 1920. He was married to Phoebe Campbell of Cashton, Wis. I know very little about Edgar but, he may have moved to Detroit to work as a commercial artist after they divorced. Edgar is my grandfather and I'd love to know more about him. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Kind regards, David Johnson Researching: Brettingen/Johnson, Campbell, Hubbard, LaRue

Looking for any obits or any other information on the surname HONL/HONEL. ~ Having a wonderful time, wish I were here. Goodmorning 2001!~ Honl Family Genealogy Austria/Bohemia/Germany/Prussia http://home.swbell.net/stonfree/

I have some JohnSON's in my list, from Pierce & Monroe County. Herman ROCK (April 1893-1977) married a Hattie JOHNSON (February 17, 1893-January 02, 1986, d. Pierce County) Parents were: Frank Johnson & Ludmilla ? At 06:35 PM Wednesday 1/3/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Catherine, > >Are you connected with this "McNeil?" > >Husband: John MCNEIL, JR. > Born: at: >Married: 04 APR 1890 at: Tomah, Monroe County, WI > Died: at: > Father: > Mother: > > Wife: Effie M. JOHNSTON > Born: ABT 1867 at: WI > Died: 22 MAY 1890 at: WI > Father:Lewis JOHNSTON > Mother:Mariette E. GETMAN > Other Spouses: > >Best wishes, >Bonnie >-- >Bonnie (Gallagher) Gilson, Phoenix, AZ, USA >mailto:[email protected] >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bgilson/ > > >[email protected] wrote: > > > > Wilcox, Coats, McNeil, Davis, McGuril, Bloss, Dutton, Babcock > > > > Also any history on Tunnel City. > > > > Happy Digging > > Catherine Leinbach ~ Having a wonderful time, wish I were here. Goodmorning 2001!~ Honl Family Genealogy Austria/Bohemia/Germany/Prussia http://home.swbell.net/stonfree/

Jan - Do you have any info on Myrtle Rood? Place of birth, etc. Also, was her name originally Rood? I am looking for info on family members of Emily Rodd (b. 1843 in Ohio) who appeared in Tomah before 1870. Cheryl Colletti Linden, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 21:02 Subject: [WIMONROE] Roll Call: Crandall, Rood > Harris L. CRANDALL, Jr., b. Feb. 17, 1873, Tomah, m. Myrtle ROOD. > > Need info re: Harris L. CRANDALL, Sr., m. Jennie Jordan. > > According to "Early Residents of Monroe County, Wisconsin", he was an owner > of Mason & Crandall Meat Market, who came to WI abt. 1851 from NY. > > Jan > > >

Oh..I have to say that my Step-Mom <Gawd..I hate the word Step..she's my Mom afterall> gathered this information from a family bible I believe (^_^) At 08:35 PM Wednesday 1/3/01 -0500, you wrote: >Sure Cherie.... I'm sure the list would appreciate seeing what you have. >There are a couple of people researching that name here..... and.... you >never know! <g> > >John > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cherie [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:13 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [WIMONROE] Roll Call: SMITH, HILLIKER, BRAMAN, SPOONER, >OLSON/OLESON, KJE... > > >I have a list of other SMITHS in WI, care to have them too? > >~Cherie > >At 06:27 PM Wednesday 1/3/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi Ed.... > > > >Yes, my SMITH family did live in Tomah. They also lived in Oakdale, my gg > >grandparents Hugh Smith and Mary Ann Downs are buried there. Their son, my > >g grandfather H.H. Smith, made his home in Tomah. H.H. was a mason, like > >his father, and laid many of the sidewalks in Tomah... His son, Roy A. > >Smith, my grandfather, was a barber at one time, and owned a movie house in > >town (what is now the Tee Pee restaurant) - my mother, Gladys, moved to > >Madison, married, and raised our family there. Her sister, Jane Hilliker, > >and brother, Charles H. Smith, still live in Tomah. > > > >Best wishes. > > > >John > > > >John Buck, Jr. > >U.S. Mail Address: 1779 Middlehurst Road > > Cleveland Heights, Ohio > > 44118-1647 > > Phone: 216-932-9059 > > > >Internet Address: [email protected] > > > >To subscribe to the Roots-L BUCK surname mailing list, just > >send the command "subscribe" to: > >[email protected] > > > >To subscribe to the Roots-L SUTER surname mailing list, just > >send the command "subscribe" to: > >[email protected] > > > >Researching: > > > >In Illinois: BUCK/SUTER/HAYES/HARFORD/LANDRITH[LANDRETH]/VANCIL > >In Tennessee: BUCK/RICHARDSON/GOOLSBY > >In Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Connecticut: BUCK/SPOONER/GROVESTEEN > >In Ohio: CURRY/HARFORD > > > >and... > > > >In Wisconsin: SMITH/OLSON/KITTELESN/GROVESTEEN/SPOONER/BRAMAN/HILLIKER > >In New York : SMITH/DOWNS/GROVESTEEN/SPOONER/BRAMAN/SOOTS/FRANCIS/HILLIKER > >In Norway >[Rogaland,Telemark]:KITTELSEN/KJETILSON/TENGESDAL/SVINBILL/SVIMBOL > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:14 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [WIMONROE] Roll Call: SMITH, HILLIKER, BRAMAN, SPOONER, > >OLSON/OLESON, KJE... > > > > > >Hi: > >Was your SMITH from Tomah, Wisconsin? If so I would appreciate hearing from > >you. > > > >Thank You > > > >Ed DUFF,Arizona, > >[email protected] > > > >~ >Having a wonderful time, wish I were here. >Goodmorning 2001!~ > >Honl Family Genealogy >Austria/Bohemia/Germany/Prussia >http://home.swbell.net/stonfree/ > > > ~ Having a wonderful time, wish I were here. Goodmorning 2001!~ Honl Family Genealogy Austria/Bohemia/Germany/Prussia http://home.swbell.net/stonfree/

Okies....I was going to add a download page to my sight..just haven't gotten to it yet...but...I just added the SMITH.ged in zip form for anybody who wishes to download [email protected] http://home.swbell.net/stonfree/downloads.html ~Cherie At 08:35 PM Wednesday 1/3/01 -0500, you wrote: >Sure Cherie.... I'm sure the list would appreciate seeing what you have. >There are a couple of people researching that name here..... and.... you >never know! <g> > >John > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cherie [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:13 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [WIMONROE] Roll Call: SMITH, HILLIKER, BRAMAN, SPOONER, >OLSON/OLESON, KJE... > > >I have a list of other SMITHS in WI, care to have them too? > >~Cherie > >At 06:27 PM Wednesday 1/3/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi Ed.... > > > >Yes, my SMITH family did live in Tomah. They also lived in Oakdale, my gg > >grandparents Hugh Smith and Mary Ann Downs are buried there. Their son, my > >g grandfather H.H. Smith, made his home in Tomah. H.H. was a mason, like > >his father, and laid many of the sidewalks in Tomah... His son, Roy A. > >Smith, my grandfather, was a barber at one time, and owned a movie house in > >town (what is now the Tee Pee restaurant) - my mother, Gladys, moved to > >Madison, married, and raised our family there. Her sister, Jane Hilliker, > >and brother, Charles H. Smith, still live in Tomah. > > > >Best wishes. > > > >John > > > >John Buck, Jr. > >U.S. Mail Address: 1779 Middlehurst Road > > Cleveland Heights, Ohio > > 44118-1647 > > Phone: 216-932-9059 > > > >Internet Address: [email protected] > > > >To subscribe to the Roots-L BUCK surname mailing list, just > >send the command "subscribe" to: > >[email protected] > > > >To subscribe to the Roots-L SUTER surname mailing list, just > >send the command "subscribe" to: > >[email protected] > > > >Researching: > > > >In Illinois: BUCK/SUTER/HAYES/HARFORD/LANDRITH[LANDRETH]/VANCIL > >In Tennessee: BUCK/RICHARDSON/GOOLSBY > >In Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Connecticut: BUCK/SPOONER/GROVESTEEN > >In Ohio: CURRY/HARFORD > > > >and... > > > >In Wisconsin: SMITH/OLSON/KITTELESN/GROVESTEEN/SPOONER/BRAMAN/HILLIKER > >In New York : SMITH/DOWNS/GROVESTEEN/SPOONER/BRAMAN/SOOTS/FRANCIS/HILLIKER > >In Norway >[Rogaland,Telemark]:KITTELSEN/KJETILSON/TENGESDAL/SVINBILL/SVIMBOL > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:14 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [WIMONROE] Roll Call: SMITH, HILLIKER, BRAMAN, SPOONER, > >OLSON/OLESON, KJE... > > > > > >Hi: > >Was your SMITH from Tomah, Wisconsin? If so I would appreciate hearing from > >you. > > > >Thank You > > > >Ed DUFF,Arizona, > >[email protected] > > > >~ >Having a wonderful time, wish I were here. >Goodmorning 2001!~ > >Honl Family Genealogy >Austria/Bohemia/Germany/Prussia >http://home.swbell.net/stonfree/ > > > ~ Having a wonderful time, wish I were here. Goodmorning 2001!~ Honl Family Genealogy Austria/Bohemia/Germany/Prussia http://home.swbell.net/stonfree/

I was born and raised in Tomah and am researching the following: REISENAUER, VON HADEN, PRELL, FROHMADER, GAMERDINGER, STROZINSKY, PURDY, RETTER, NOTH, STREET, SAUNDERS, STEVENS. Please reply to my e-mail address. Thanks. Barbara Reisenauer Smith

Sure Cherie.... I'm sure the list would appreciate seeing what you have. There are a couple of people researching that name here..... and.... you never know! <g> John -----Original Message----- From: Cherie [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [WIMONROE] Roll Call: SMITH, HILLIKER, BRAMAN, SPOONER, OLSON/OLESON, KJE... I have a list of other SMITHS in WI, care to have them too? ~Cherie At 06:27 PM Wednesday 1/3/01 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Ed.... > >Yes, my SMITH family did live in Tomah. They also lived in Oakdale, my gg >grandparents Hugh Smith and Mary Ann Downs are buried there. Their son, my >g grandfather H.H. Smith, made his home in Tomah. H.H. was a mason, like >his father, and laid many of the sidewalks in Tomah... His son, Roy A. >Smith, my grandfather, was a barber at one time, and owned a movie house in >town (what is now the Tee Pee restaurant) - my mother, Gladys, moved to >Madison, married, and raised our family there. Her sister, Jane Hilliker, >and brother, Charles H. Smith, still live in Tomah. > >Best wishes. > >John > >John Buck, Jr. >U.S. Mail Address: 1779 Middlehurst Road > Cleveland Heights, Ohio > 44118-1647 > Phone: 216-932-9059 > >Internet Address: [email protected] > >To subscribe to the Roots-L BUCK surname mailing list, just >send the command "subscribe" to: >[email protected] > >To subscribe to the Roots-L SUTER surname mailing list, just >send the command "subscribe" to: >[email protected] > >Researching: > >In Illinois: BUCK/SUTER/HAYES/HARFORD/LANDRITH[LANDRETH]/VANCIL >In Tennessee: BUCK/RICHARDSON/GOOLSBY >In Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Connecticut: BUCK/SPOONER/GROVESTEEN >In Ohio: CURRY/HARFORD > >and... > >In Wisconsin: SMITH/OLSON/KITTELESN/GROVESTEEN/SPOONER/BRAMAN/HILLIKER >In New York : SMITH/DOWNS/GROVESTEEN/SPOONER/BRAMAN/SOOTS/FRANCIS/HILLIKER >In Norway [Rogaland,Telemark]:KITTELSEN/KJETILSON/TENGESDAL/SVINBILL/SVIMBOL > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:14 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [WIMONROE] Roll Call: SMITH, HILLIKER, BRAMAN, SPOONER, >OLSON/OLESON, KJE... > > >Hi: >Was your SMITH from Tomah, Wisconsin? If so I would appreciate hearing from >you. > >Thank You > >Ed DUFF,Arizona, >[email protected] > ~ Having a wonderful time, wish I were here. Goodmorning 2001!~ Honl Family Genealogy Austria/Bohemia/Germany/Prussia http://home.swbell.net/stonfree/

Hi Catherine, Are you connected with this "McNeil?" Husband: John MCNEIL, JR. Born: at: Married: 04 APR 1890 at: Tomah, Monroe County, WI Died: at: Father: Mother: Wife: Effie M. JOHNSTON Born: ABT 1867 at: WI Died: 22 MAY 1890 at: WI Father:Lewis JOHNSTON Mother:Mariette E. GETMAN Other Spouses: Best wishes, Bonnie -- Bonnie (Gallagher) Gilson, Phoenix, AZ, USA mailto:[email protected] http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bgilson/ [email protected] wrote: > > Wilcox, Coats, McNeil, Davis, McGuril, Bloss, Dutton, Babcock > > Also any history on Tunnel City. > > Happy Digging > Catherine Leinbach

I have a list of other SMITHS in WI, care to have them too? ~Cherie At 06:27 PM Wednesday 1/3/01 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Ed.... > >Yes, my SMITH family did live in Tomah. They also lived in Oakdale, my gg >grandparents Hugh Smith and Mary Ann Downs are buried there. Their son, my >g grandfather H.H. Smith, made his home in Tomah. H.H. was a mason, like >his father, and laid many of the sidewalks in Tomah... His son, Roy A. >Smith, my grandfather, was a barber at one time, and owned a movie house in >town (what is now the Tee Pee restaurant) - my mother, Gladys, moved to >Madison, married, and raised our family there. Her sister, Jane Hilliker, >and brother, Charles H. Smith, still live in Tomah. > >Best wishes. > >John > >John Buck, Jr. >U.S. Mail Address: 1779 Middlehurst Road > Cleveland Heights, Ohio > 44118-1647 > Phone: 216-932-9059 > >Internet Address: [email protected] > >To subscribe to the Roots-L BUCK surname mailing list, just >send the command "subscribe" to: >[email protected] > >To subscribe to the Roots-L SUTER surname mailing list, just >send the command "subscribe" to: >[email protected] > >Researching: > >In Illinois: BUCK/SUTER/HAYES/HARFORD/LANDRITH[LANDRETH]/VANCIL >In Tennessee: BUCK/RICHARDSON/GOOLSBY >In Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Connecticut: BUCK/SPOONER/GROVESTEEN >In Ohio: CURRY/HARFORD > >and... > >In Wisconsin: SMITH/OLSON/KITTELESN/GROVESTEEN/SPOONER/BRAMAN/HILLIKER >In New York : SMITH/DOWNS/GROVESTEEN/SPOONER/BRAMAN/SOOTS/FRANCIS/HILLIKER >In Norway [Rogaland,Telemark]:KITTELSEN/KJETILSON/TENGESDAL/SVINBILL/SVIMBOL > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:14 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [WIMONROE] Roll Call: SMITH, HILLIKER, BRAMAN, SPOONER, >OLSON/OLESON, KJE... > > >Hi: >Was your SMITH from Tomah, Wisconsin? If so I would appreciate hearing from >you. > >Thank You > >Ed DUFF,Arizona, >[email protected] > ~ Having a wonderful time, wish I were here. Goodmorning 2001!~ Honl Family Genealogy Austria/Bohemia/Germany/Prussia http://home.swbell.net/stonfree/

Tommy, what can you tell me about your DAVIS in Monroe County? I have a Sally Ann (?Sarah) Davis-Farnham who moved to Monroe county with her family during the late 1860. They lived in Leon Township. Did you DAVIS have any sibling? Susanne Farnham-Hieber [email protected] [email protected] writes: > [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > Wilcox, Coats, McNeil, Davis, McGuril, Bloss, Dutton, Babcock >

Good idea! May I add my names? CLARK CARPENTER Thanks, Katherine Stevenson

Hi Ed.... Yes, my SMITH family did live in Tomah. They also lived in Oakdale, my gg grandparents Hugh Smith and Mary Ann Downs are buried there. Their son, my g grandfather H.H. Smith, made his home in Tomah. H.H. was a mason, like his father, and laid many of the sidewalks in Tomah... His son, Roy A. Smith, my grandfather, was a barber at one time, and owned a movie house in town (what is now the Tee Pee restaurant) - my mother, Gladys, moved to Madison, married, and raised our family there. Her sister, Jane Hilliker, and brother, Charles H. Smith, still live in Tomah. Best wishes. John John Buck, Jr. U.S. Mail Address: 1779 Middlehurst Road Cleveland Heights, Ohio 44118-1647 Phone: 216-932-9059 Internet Address: [email protected] To subscribe to the Roots-L BUCK surname mailing list, just send the command "subscribe" to: [email protected] To subscribe to the Roots-L SUTER surname mailing list, just send the command "subscribe" to: [email protected] Researching: In Illinois: BUCK/SUTER/HAYES/HARFORD/LANDRITH[LANDRETH]/VANCIL In Tennessee: BUCK/RICHARDSON/GOOLSBY In Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Connecticut: BUCK/SPOONER/GROVESTEEN In Ohio: CURRY/HARFORD and... In Wisconsin: SMITH/OLSON/KITTELESN/GROVESTEEN/SPOONER/BRAMAN/HILLIKER In New York : SMITH/DOWNS/GROVESTEEN/SPOONER/BRAMAN/SOOTS/FRANCIS/HILLIKER In Norway [Rogaland,Telemark]:KITTELSEN/KJETILSON/TENGESDAL/SVINBILL/SVIMBOL -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WIMONROE] Roll Call: SMITH, HILLIKER, BRAMAN, SPOONER, OLSON/OLESON, KJE... Hi: Was your SMITH from Tomah, Wisconsin? If so I would appreciate hearing from you. Thank You Ed DUFF,Arizona, [email protected]

I am having a time connecting to that John McNeil. I am looking for perhaps his father. My great grandmother was Dora McNeil b. 2 Feb 1876 d. 1937 (buried possibly Tunnel City) m. 1890 (she was about 14 when married) to Charles Wilcox. Her father was John McNeil and mother Emma Matice. John McNeil disappeared and was never heard from again. Later Emma married Ben Coats. Ben Coats was a blind pentioner either from the Rail Road or Civil War when Emma married him. I can give you more information on John McNeil's disappearence after I check my records for dates. Think that John McNeil was from Ireland or New England. He just rode off one day and never returned. He might of worked for the Rail Road. I would like to know more about John McNeil Jr. He fits the age to be a brother of Dora McNeil. Emma was said to be Native American. Emma's father was Frederick McGuire or McGuril. They were from the Baraboo Sauk County Area. Dora and Charles had four children: Maggie Mae, Walter, Harvey, and Frank Avery. Frank Avery was my grandfather. He was 10 when his father died and went to work for the Rail Road in Tunnel City. When my grandmother married Frank Avery Wilcox in 1920, Dora was raising a little girl by the name of Ruth Wilcox. Dora also had spells where she would stop talking for about two or three minutes and then snap out of it and take up right where she left off. I just have bits and pieces. My parents were divorced, my grandparents were divorced, Dora and Charles were separated, Dora's father disappeared before she married Charles. So there is very little information that was given out by anyone. My father would not talk of his father, just as his father would not talk of his family. I hope that we are of the same family. I wish that you could find that your John McNeil's mother was Emma Matise. Have you got any records? Do you have a death certificate on John Jr? Do you know where John is buried? Let me know if you think that we might have a match or a possible. Happy Digging Catherine Leinbach