Hello Listers, Thanks to the help of many people from these lists, especially Bob D., Kathy Lisai, Pam Long, Jan J., Wm. Voss, Allen Gray, Mary Ellen Z., Maude LeBlanc, Amy Davis and Cece Bibby, I have made what I think is a major discovery in my WORTH-PALMER line. Please forgive my ramblings, but sometimes it helps to talk it out. This whole thing started when I was looking up info on Marium (WORTH) CLARK for another researcher. I put her name into the newspaper archive I subscribe to. There was a newspaper article that had the same photograph that I have on my dining room wall. I knew some of the people on the photo, but not all. This article named everyone in the photo. (This was a major discovery in itself!) Well, the photo has Marium (WORTH) CLARK sitting in the middle and next to her is H.J.G. PALMER (this happens to be my gg-grandfather - who I had never seen!) (Another major discovery) Any how, it states that H.J. G. PALMER is the brother-in-law of Marium (WORTH) CLARK. HUH? I was totally puzzled??? I had done a little research on both families, but never put them together... Here's what I know and have semi-proof of: Lydia WORTH b. about 1808 (give or take) married Robert HUNKINS in April 1831 and lived in Derby Vermont. They had 3 children in Vermont and 1 more in 1840 after they arrived in Wisconsin. Robert HUNKINS died February 25, 1845 in Wisconsin. (This information comes from "Genealogical records of the Robert Hastings Hunkins family," by Hunkins, Hazen Hendricks, Los Angeles, Calif.: unknown, 1961, 58 pgs.) On December 1, 1846 in New Berlin, (at the time, Milwaukee County, but now Waukesha County) Wisconsin, Havilah (H.J.G.) PALMER married Mrs. Lydia Louise HUNKINS. (I have the marriage license) They raised Robert HUNKINS' children and had two more of their own - Theodore, who died young, and Mary - my g-grandmother. (Info from the 1850 and 1860 Federal Census for New Berlin, Waukesha County, Wisconsin and Waukesha, Waukesha County, Wisconsin, respectively.) O.K. here's where things start to get even more complicated. O.K. According to "The genealogical History of the CLARK and WORTH Families" by Carol Clark Johnson, Lydia and Marium WORTH are daughters of Joseph and Mary "Polly" (SAWYER) WORTH. According to this book, Joseph WORTH's 1st marriage was to Susan TAPLIN. They had a son named Jacob WORTH who married Lucinda DANFORTH. They had a son named Taplin Johnson WORTH. Their son Taplin, was born in Stanstead, October 6, 1828, and died September 8, 1904, at the home of his sister Mrs. Lydia GRAY in Holland Vermont.(Page 255) Well, now, wait a minute, did Jacob and Lucinda WORTH have a daughter named Lydia? I'm working backwards here... In the 1900 Census for Holland, Orleans County, Vermont there is a George and Lydia GRAY. This Lydia was born in 1842 - , this is WAY too young to be MY Lydia born about 1808. If you look at the 1900 census for Holland, Orleans County, Vermont, there is a Levi WORTH living a few houses above George and Lydia GRAY. There is a boarder there who I THINK is supposed to be Taplin GRAY, but it looks as if his last name is BENNETT. The last name under Levi WORTH, I BELIEVE is supposed to be Taplin GRAY. I don't have access to the 1890 or 1880 Censuses, but in the 1870 Federal Census for Holland, Orleans County, Vermont there is a Merrill/Morrill GRAY and he lives right next door to Taplin GRAY. Living with Morrill GRAY are George and Lydia GRAY. Again this Lydia was born about 1844 which is WAY too young to be MY Lydia. In 1860 I find Morrill GRAY with a son named George born about 1845. Also in 1860 in Holland, Orleans County, Vermont is Jacob and Lucinda WORTH with a daughter named Lydia born about 1843. Living next to them is Taplin WORTH. Can you see where I'm going with this? It's my THEORY that the Lydia who married George GRAY and lived in Holland, Orleans County is actually the daughter of Jacob and Lucinda (DANFORTH) GRAY, not the Lydia who was the daughter of Joseph and Mary "Polly" (SAWYER) WORTH. By a strange co-incidence, there IS a Lydia born about 1804 who married a George GRAY and lived in Dover, Strafford County, New Hampshire. But according to the 1850 Federal Census for Dover, Strafford County, New Hampshire. they have a Polly BARDEN living with them aged 80. This Lydia is the daughter of Frederick and Polly (CROSSMAN) BARDEN. So, that crosses her off my list... It's my theory that Ms. JOHNSON or whoever typed her manuscript confused the two Lydia's. The Lydia who married Mr. GRAY and lived in Holland, Vermont was really the daughter of Jacob and Lucinda (DANFORTH) WORTH and NOT the daughter of Joseph and Mary "Polly" (SAWYER) WORTH. Lydia WORTH, daughter of Joseph and Mary (SAWYER) WORTH married Robert HUNKINS, moved to Wisconsin, and later married H.J.G. PALMER. Now, all I have to do is prove it!!! Any suggestions? Hopefully you're not too confused by all my ramblings. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to e-mail me. Isn't it funny how one major breakthrough leads to many, many more questions? Kay R