Here on the WiMilwau list apparently the only way to successfully deliver a message is to just keep repeating it. So below is a duplicate of some Milwaukee orphanage info I posted over a year ago (in turn, a repeat of much older posted info from me.) St. Aemillian-Lakeside, Inc. (http://www.st-al.org/history.htm) at 8901 W. Capitol Drive in Milwaukee has told me that almost all records on Milwaukee orphans since the 1840s is at their campus and/or the adjoining St. Rose campus. I'm unclear on their policies on sharing this info. But why so few WiMilwau listers apparently seem interested in all this remains a mystery to me .................John (in metro Chicago) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Milwaukee orphanages since 1848 Date: 12/8/2005 4:15:08 A.M. Central Standard Time From: JQMagie@aol.com To: JanThatcher@charter.net, WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Many thanks for your note below, Janet. Actually I've been somewhat surprised that, as far as I know, no one else has expressed any interest in my WiMilwau posting of Dec. 2 on Milwaukee orphanages, plus my follow-up posting of Dec. 5. In an old scrapbook begun in the late 1840s by my Milwaukee great-great-grandmother Sarah Ann Eldred (nee Higby), 1802-1879, there are many ancient Milwaukee newspaper clippings on her helping organize the Milwaukee Protestant Orphan Asylum in 1849 and on the subsequent substantial volunteer involvement in that institution by both her and her children. Sarah and her husband, Elisha Eldred, 1796-1860, a leading early Milwaukee real estate and railroad developer, had moved to Milwaukee in 1842 from the Cooperstown, NY, area. I TOO became curious about what had happened to the above orphanage, plus St. Aemillian and St. Rose (both originally Roman Catholic), and I was surprised to find that all three continue to exist OVER 150 YEARS LATER-- even though their mission today is essentially no longer the custodial care of orphans (now mostly in foster homes). St. Aemillian was actually located south of Milwaukee (in St. Francis, WI) from 1854 to 1930-- and presumably several other Milwaukee County localities had separate orphan homes. I suggest you first check out the helpful website of St. Aemillian-Lakeside (http://www.st-al.org), including the list of staff, and then call them at 800-840-1880 or 414-463-1880. I haven't yet visited their main campus at 8901 West Capitol Drive in Milwaukee, and I just noticed that they maintain branch facilities at Racine, Waukesha, West Bend, and Sheboygan-- all outside of Milwaukee County ......John __________________________________________________ -----Original message----- On 12/7/05, at 11:26:49 PM CST, JanThatcher@charter.net writes I noticed the following posting on the Milwaukee Rootsweb list. .....Your post was incredibly important to me because I did not know what happened to this institution. It looks like it was renamed Lakeside Children's Center in 1943 and then merged with St. Aemilian-Lakeside. Do you have any idea how I would I go about seeing if there are any records for my ancestors that have been kept by the surviving institution of St. Aemilian-Lakeside? Janet in California >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [WiMilwau] Milwaukee orphanages since 1848 Date: 12/5/2005 2:59:45 A.M. Central Standard Time From: JQMagie@aol.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com St. Aemilian-Lakeside, Inc. There are probably many people who know more about all this than I do, but I feel confident that almost all Milwaukee area BOYS in orphanages since the late 1840s were tied to what is now known as St. Aemilian-Lakeside-- a 1989 merger of two large institutions, one Catholic and one Protestant. Also, my guess is that most Milwaukee area GIRLS in orphanages since 1848 were tied to what is now St. Rose Youth & Family Center-- now an independent, nonsectarian, nonprofit organization that was formerly tied to the Milwaukee Catholic Archdiocese and known in the 19th century as St Rose Orphan Asylum. But maybe there have been other Milwaukee female orphanages over the years, including possibly St. Vincent. St. Rose Youth & Family Center, Inc. http://www.strosecenter.org 3801 N. 88th St., Milwaukee, WI 53222 Phone: (414) 466-9450 I just checked a map and see that both St. Aemilian-Lakeside and St. Rose now adjoin each other (with the same zip code) on a single large campus southwest of Capitol Drive and 88th Street, Milwaukee. In the 1890s and for many years thereafter, St. Rose was located at the NW corner of North and Lake Drive, just east the Milwaukee Protestant Orphan Asylum (renamed Lakeside Children's Center in 1943). Meanwhile, from 1854-1930, St. Aemillian was located South of Milwaukee on the big extant lakeside campus of St. Francis Seminary ......John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subj: Milwaukee orphanages since 1849 Date: 12/2/2005 7:27:35 A.M. CST From: JQMagie To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com I've been meaning to reiterate the following. St. Aemilian-Lakeside, Inc, of Milwaukee, to which my Eldred and Magie ancestors supported, especially in its early years, in extensive volunteer labor and substantial financial assistance, apparently remains an incredibly important repository of Milwaukee orphanage records since 1849. http://www.st-al.org St. Aemilian-Lakeside, Inc. 8901 West Capitol Drive, Milwaukee, WI 53222 (414) 463-1880 or (800) 840-1880 (414) 463-2770 fax The Milwaukee Protestant Orphan Asylum that my family helped organize in 1849 was formerly in a large 1887 building at the NE corner of Prospect and North avenues in Milwaukee. In 1943, as foster care became more important, it was renamed "Lakeside Children's Center." St. Aemilian's Orphan Asylum had been founded by Milwaukee's Roman Catholic Archdiocese in 1850. And the two large and ancient institutions formally merged on January 1, 1989, as ST. AEMILIAN-LAKESIDE, INC-- a private, not-for-profit, non-sectarian, residential treatment center for boys. I'm not clear on this-- but I think that, while the emphasis over the years at both institutions has been on boys, this may no longer be true. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subj: Re: [WIMILWAU] Help Date: 12/30/2006 5:31:16 P.M. Central Standard Time From: milwaukee@linkstothepast.com To: wimilwau@rootsweb. ......I have a list of orphanages on my site. It is an early list, some of them were still in existence in 1910, but I don't have a current list to help you for the 1910 time period. http://linkstothepast.com/milwaukee/mkebenev.html Good Luck in your search. Ellen- *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 12/30/2006 at 5:21 PM K Wilhelm wrote: >Ellen > >I greatly appreciate your interest and help, however, the father John died >in August of 1910 and the boys, my father Fred and Uncle Roland were later >sent to an orphanage. I am trying to trace them to an orphanage since they >fall off the radar screen until my father joins the Navy around 1919. Am >trying to fill that gap. > >Thanks again and have a Happy and Healthy New Year. > >Ken in NC ......... > >> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** >> >> On 12/26/2006 at 8:39 AM K Wilhelm wrote: >> >>>I am looking for a list of orphanages that were operating in Milwaukee in >>>the 1910 period. My father, Frederick Wilhelm, and his younger brother >>>Roland, ages 10 and 7 were sent to an orphanage after their fathers' >>>death in May of 1910. As the story goes their stay was as brief as >>>possible since they were not happy there and they ran away. >>> >>>I have searched census records to no avail, perhaps the count was >>>completed before their attendance, and am certain they were gone >>> before the next census. >>>Any help would be gratefully appreciated. >>> >>>Ken Wilhelm >>>Pinehurst, NC _____________________________________________________________________________ (PS from JQM to Ken: sadly my older brother Peter M. Magie of 490 Central Dr., Southern Pines, NC 28387, died of cancer on 9/23/2002 in adjoining Pinehurst, NC)