________________________________________________________ << Subj: [WiMilwau] Marriage Date: 11/18/01 8:33:20 PM Central Standard Time From: zastrowpm@netwurx.net To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Does anyone hae access to records to confirm a marriage of August Timm and Wilhelmine Koch on Sept. 12, 1869? Parents names? Possibly a church whrer the marriage was performed? This may have been a second marriage, would there be a death record for a first wife? Any lead is appreciated. Irene >> ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 ________________________________________________________ To Irene and other listers from John (in Chicago)---> In trying to answer some of the questions raised by Irene above, I just discovered Ancestry.com's important online version of the pre-1907 Wisconsin Vital Record Index. Maybe many other listers already know about this. My impression is that the Marriage section of this online Index is more complete than the Birth and the Death sections. Actually much of this is essentially more than a mere index, because it often provides most info a researcher is typically seeking. This online info is accessible to all Ancestry.com subscribers and those who sign up for a free two-week Ancestry.com trial (see above). This online Index indicates, for example, that on 12 Sep 1869, in Milwaukee, August TIMM married Frederika RAASCH (not Wilhelmine KOCH). To find this out, first access: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4997.htm -- then enter "Timm Sep 12 1869" in the search box. You should get the following result: "Aug F W Timm 12 Sep 1869 Milwaukee 09 0074." Then copy and paste all this, excluding Timm's full name, in the Refine Search box -- then click and, presto, the names of both August Timm and Frederika Raasch appear along with their 1869 marriage date. But note (in the supplementary info below) that there were at least FIVE August TIMMs in the Milwaukee-Waukesha area in 1889!! Below are examples of some other marriages I've just very happily either discovered or precisely dated through the above system. These are relatives of mine, except for the first two-- two famous Milwaukeans. The first listing refers to info that Bob of Brookfield and I have been looking for especially: the third marriage of Judge Arthur McArthur, grandfather of Gen. Douglas MacArthur. Bob has been kindly helping me track most of these names. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=wimarr1820&gs=mcarthur Arthur McArthur 11 Jan 1871 Dane 02 0255 Mary E Hopkins 11 Jan 1871 Dane 02 0255 John Plankinton 17 Mar 1874 Milwaukee 13 0437 Annie B Bradford 17 Mar 1874 Milwaukee 13 0437 Chas W Armour 03 Jun 1885 Milwaukee 17 0474 Sarah A Magie 03 Jun 1885 Milwaukee 17 0474 Herman O Armour 20 Nov 1862 Milwaukee 03 0034 Mary A Jacks 20 Nov 1862 Milwaukee 03 0034 Alice L Eldred 18 Oct 1893 Milwaukee 25 0385 Ralph Chandler 18 Oct 1893 Milwaukee 25 0385 Fanny L Eldred 25 Oct 1882 Milwaukee 16 0256 Horace M Brown 25 Oct 1882 Milwaukee 16 0256 Len Higby 11 Dec 1872 Fond Du Lac 03 0060 Louise E Meade 11 Dec 1872 Fond Du Lac 03 0060 Theron Higby 13 Feb 1866 Milwaukee 03 0225 Mary Eliza Gwynne 13 Feb 1866 Milwaukee 03 0225 Belle A Ogden 03 Apr 1899 Milwaukee 31 0145 Alfred L Ries 03 Apr 1899 Milwaukee 31 0145 David Bayard Ogden 12 Nov 1863 Milwaukee 14 0023 Lucia Alice Wall 12 Nov 1863 Milwaukee 14 0023 ===================================================== PS: see more Timm listings at: search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=wimarr1820&gs=timm&gss=angs&fh=0 ---> especially: August Timm 27 Jan 1887 Milwaukee 19 0021 A L Henning 27 Jan 1887 Milwaukee 19 0021 August F F Timm 03 May 1887 Milwaukee 19 0084 S J D Papenthin 03 May 1887 Milwaukee 19 0084 Aug Timm 04 Mar 1888 Milwaukee 20 0082 Dora Roesel 04 Mar 1888 Milwaukee 20 0082 Augustu Timm 03 May 1899 Milwaukee 31 0200 Anna Besch 03 May 1899 Milwaukee 31 0200 ________________________________________________________ search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=wideath1820&gs=timm&gss=angs&fh=60 Fredricka Timm Death Date: 03 Jul 1889 County: Waukesha Volume: 01 Page: 0232 ________________________________________________________ search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=wimarr1820&gs=koch&gss=angs&fh=550 -- Wilhelmina Koch + Wilhelmine Koch listings start here ________________________________________________________ http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1890milwauwi&gs=timm http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1890milwauwi&gss=angs&ct=40011 Milwaukee (WI) directories: 1889: August Timm grading-contractor 808 4th r. same. August Timm laborer r. 527 Hadley. August Timm laborer r. rear 542 20th. August Timm teamster r. 1526 Chestnut. August C. Timm laborer r. 2302 Prairie. 1890: August Timm r. 542 20th. August Timm grocer and saloon 808 4th r. same. August Timm teamster r. 1526 Chestnut. ________________________________________________________ http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1890milwauwi&gs=timm Waukesha (WI) directories 1890: August F Timm Bethesda Spring bottler r 97 Maple av Miss Mary Timm r 97 Maple av 1892: Aug Timm Bethesda bottler r 111 Maple avenue =====================================================