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    1. [WiMilwau] 1890 Census Substitute

    3. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 7/18/01, Coralie writes: > Subj: [WiMilwau] 1890 Census > Date: 7/18/01 6:56:23 PM Central Daylight Time > From: CoralieJA@aol.com > Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > > If you seek records from this census, you well may be out of luck. The > census records--except for an extremely small subset--burned in a fire > many years ago. This is very frustrating to all of us who seek family > from that era. > > Coralie J. Allen > seeking Quackenbush, Bartz, Jackson in Milwaukee County ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Coralie and other listers-- First, thanks to Coralie for YOUR thanks in your kind off-list note earlier today. And I apologize for now including a revised version, in my present on-list posting, of some of the stuff that I sent you off-list yesterday. Maybe many of you are aware of the following. But I especially wanted to emphasize now that, even though almost all of the 1890 US Federal Census was destroyed long ago (as Coralie points out above), an impressive project is now underway to create an "1890 Census Substitute." Ancestry.com writes that they, with the aid of the US National Archives, have now begun providing an online substitute for the missing 1890 census. <<More than 20 million records have been identified for inclusion in the collection and additions will be made regularly as they become available for posting. It will include fragments of the original 1890 census that survived the fire, special veterans schedules, several Native American tribe censuses for years surrounding 1890, state censuses (1885 or 1895), city and county directories, alumni directories, and voter registration documents.>> See more at: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/1890sub/main.htm The above URL now primarily leads the researcher to persons listed in all Ancestry.com's online directories of ca. 1890. And hundreds of these volumes are now online, including directories for New York City (#1 US city in population in 1890), Philadelphia (#3), Brooklyn (#4) [absorbed by NYC in 1898], St. Louis (#5), Boston (#6), and Baltimore (#7). Chicago (#2) and Cleveland (#11) seem to be the only major cities in 1890 that are still not represented by online directories of ca. 1890. Yet Milwaukee is covered by TWO directory compilations that frame a three year period: 1889-1891. See: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4749.htm -- plus (of limited value)---> http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5259.htm Below, in response Coralie's research focus, are examples of some of the goodies one can print out by signing up for Ancestry.com's current FREE offer: <<Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial..... Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB.>> Also included below is some sample (Quackenbush) Census data, mostly for 1860. This too is a printout (abridged) from Ancestry.com-- and some Wisconsin counties may be missing from this. Unfortunately Ancestry seems to include no Federal Census data at all for WI in 1870 and 1880, even though Ancestry's data does include (for example) IL & MN Census data for 1870, plus much additional data for IL & MN in 1880. Personally I prefer freebies, and I'm only rarely an Ancestry.com member. And once again I find myself about to send out a far more long-winded posting than I had originally intended. Sorry. .......John (in Chicago) ------------------------------------------ http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/1890sub/main.htm ----> main link to the 1890 CENSUS SUBSTITUTE ======================================================== http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/3581.htm EAU CLAIRE, WI-- DIRECTORIES: Name, Business Name, Occupation, Residence, City, State, Year Edward C QUACKENBUSH Eau Claire Street Railway Co clerk 411 1/2 S Barstow Eau Claire WI 1889, 1890 Edward QUACKENBUSH C A Dewey driver Eau Claire WI 1891, 1892 Edward QUACKENBUSH E C St Ry car operator 116 Niagara Eau Claire WI 1893 ======================================================== http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4749.htm MILWAUKEE, WI-- DIRECTORIES: QUACKENBUSH -- 1 match in 1890 only 1889 Directory: [QUACKENBUSH- no listing] John HAGERTY [owner] saloon and boarding house 200 E. Water r. same. 1890 Directory: R. QUACKENBUSH laborer r. 200 E. Water John HAGERTY, Jr. [owner] saloon and boarding house 200 E. Water r. same [200 E. Water in 1890 refers to a location on what is now N. Water St., probably close to its intersection with modern E. St. Paul Ave. There were no Bartz or Jackson listings at 200 E. Water in 1889 + 1890.] _________________________________________________________ JACKSON -- 1808 matches in 1889 + 1890 [Mostly references to Jackson St. in downtown Milwaukee ---> omitted (mercifully)!] If you're looking for Mrs. Benjamin B. Jones (nee Nancy or "Fanny" Jackson, 1811-1895), or even Mrs. John J. Collier (Magdalena Quackenbush, born 1705), JQM has more on both!!] Mrs. Fanny Jones [nee Jackson] r. 356 Jefferson Milwaukee 1889 Mrs. Fanny Jones [nee Jackson] r. 351 Van Buren Milwaukee 1890 _________________________________________________________ GARTZ -- 0 matches _________________________________________________________ BARTZ -- 26 matches ---> 1889 Milwaukee Directory: August Bartz house-mover r. rear 1803 Vliet. Charles Bartz laborer r. 1088 24th. Edward H. Bartz clerk 5 Grand avenue r. 436 Jackson. Frank Bartz carver r. 270 16th. Frederick Bartz laborer r. 1088 24th. Frederick Bartz laborer r. 1462 Kinnikinnic avenue Frederick Bartz teamster r. e. s. 23d, between North avenue & Elm. Herman Bartz r. 363 Rogers. John Bartz laborer r. 763 3d avenue John Bartz tanner r. rear 618 Lloyd. Ludwig Bartz house-mover r. 270 16th. Ludwig Bartz laborer r. e. s. 23d, between North avenue & Elm. Martin Bartz tanner r. 1091 N. Water. 1890 Milwaukee Directory: August Bartz house-mover 309 16th. Charles Bartz laborer r. 1088 24th. Edward H. Bartz clerk 5 Grand avenue r. 436 Jackson. Frank Bartz carver r. 270 16th. Frederick Bartz laborer r. 1462 Kinnickinnic avenue Gottlieb Bartz laborer r. 774 23d. Herman Bartz carpenter r. 363 Rogers. John Bartz laborer r. 763 3d avenue John Bartz lanner r. 695 3d. Louis Bartz house-mover 276 16th r. same. Louis Bartz laborer r. 774 26d. Martin Bartz laborer r. 974 Donsman. Otto Bartz laborer r. 2603 Bismarck. ____________________________________________________________________ ============================================================ http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/3581.htm WISCONSIN CENSUS, 1860-most + 1890-veterans Year, Surname, Given Name, County, State, Page, Township etc., Database, ID# _______________________________________________________ Federal Census, Wisconsin-- 1860: 1860 QUACKENBUSH AUGUSTINE Columbia County WI 517 Pacific WI456152944 1860 QUACKENBUSH P. Columbia County WI 240 Dekorra WI456152966 1860 QUACKENBUSH J. H. Grant County WI 049 Boscobel WI456152953 1860 QUACKENBUSH JAMES R. Green Lake Co. WI 983 Mackford WI456152956 1860 QUACKENBUSH JOHN Green Lake County WI 982 Mackford WI456152958 1860 QUACKENBUSH HENRY Jackson County WI 1095 Manchester WI456152948 1860 QUACKENBUSH JOHN H. Jackson County WI 1093 Manchester WI456152960 1860 QUACKENBUSH JOSEPH Jackson County WI 1118 Melrose WI456152961 1860 QUACKENBUSH TANY Jefferson County WI 231 Jefferson WI4561529691 1860 QUACKENBUSH EZRA La Crosse County WI 009 Barre WI456152946 1860 QUACKENBUSH HIRAM La Crosse County WI 009 Barre WI456152951 1860 QUACKENBUSH JOSEPH La Crosse County WI 195 Neshonoc WI456152962 1860 QUACKENBUSH EMILY Racine County WI 842 Rochester WI456152945 1860 QUACKENBUSH GERTRUDE Racine County WI 636 Burlington WI456152947 1860 QUACKENBUSH LAMBERT Racine County WI 841 Rochester WI456152963 1860 QUACKENBUSH HENRY Rock County WI 689 Turtle WI456152949 1860 QUACKENBUSH RICHARD Rock County WI 161 Bradford WI456152967 1860 QUACKENBUSH W. Sauk County WI 445 Baraboo WI456152970 1860 QUACKENBUSH JACOB Walworth County WI 296 Hudson WI456152954 1860 QUACKENBUSH LUKE Walworth County WI 453 Sharon WI456152964 1860 QUACKENBUSH NANCY Walworth County WI 454 Sharon WI456152965 1860 QUACKENBUSH SOLON Walworth County WI 501 Spring Prairie WI456152968 1860 QUACKENBUSH ISAAC Waukesha County WI 187 Vernon WI456152952 1860 QUACKENBUSH JACOB Wood County WI 940 Dexter WI456152955 _______________________________________________________ Wisconsin-- 1890 Veterans Schedule: 1890 QUACKENBUSH DELEVAN P. Jackson County WI 005 E.D. 143 Black River WI09627753 1890 QUACKENBUSH ERNEST Jackson County WI 001 E.D. 150 Manchester WI09627754 1890 QUACKENBUSH JOHN -DEC- Jackson County WI 002 E.D. 150 Manchester WI09627757 1890 QUACKENBUSH MARIAH -W- Jackson County WI 002 E.D. 150 Manchester WI09627758 1890 QUACKENBUSH ABNER La Crosse County WI 001 E.D. 170 La Crosse WI09627752 1890 QUACKENBUSH JAMES Milwaukee County WI 092 N.W. Branch Ntl Home WI09627756 1890 QUACKENBUSH ISAAC Vernon County WI 001 E.D. 250 Bergen Township WI09627755 ____________________________________________________________________ ============================================================

    07/21/2001 06:45:02
    1. Re: [WiMilwau] 1890 Census Substitute
    2. Faith A. Blount

    3. Does anyone know what states, cities or names did survive the fire? Or do we have access to what is left? Thanks, Faith blount@netnet.net The Roots of my tree. ACKERMANN, ARTHUR, BAXTER, BLOUNT, CARTER, DAVISSON, EICH, FRIEND, GLASSBURN, GREENE, ROEDER, ROTH(E), SPINLER, STILTNER, TRITT, WOODS. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JQMagie@aol.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 11:45 PM Subject: [WiMilwau] 1890 Census Substitute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On 7/18/01, Coralie writes: > > > Subj: [WiMilwau] 1890 Census > > Date: 7/18/01 6:56:23 PM Central Daylight Time > > From: CoralieJA@aol.com > > Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > > To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > > > > If you seek records from this census, you well may be out of luck. The > > census records--except for an extremely small subset--burned in a fire > > many years ago. This is very frustrating to all of us who seek family > > from that era. > > > > Coralie J. Allen > > seeking Quackenbush, Bartz, Jackson in Milwaukee County > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > To Coralie and other listers-- > First, thanks to Coralie for YOUR thanks in your kind off-list note > earlier today. And I apologize for now including a revised version, in my > present on-list posting, of some of the stuff that I sent you off-list > yesterday. > Maybe many of you are aware of the following. But I especially wanted > to emphasize now that, even though almost all of the 1890 US Federal Census > was destroyed long ago (as Coralie points out above), an impressive project > is now underway to create an "1890 Census Substitute." > Ancestry.com writes that they, with the aid of the US National > Archives, have now begun providing an online substitute for the missing 1890 > census. <<More than 20 million records have been identified for inclusion in > the collection and additions will be made regularly as they become available > for posting. It will include fragments of the original 1890 census that > survived the fire, special veterans schedules, several Native American tribe > censuses for years surrounding 1890, state censuses (1885 or 1895), city and > county directories, alumni directories, and voter registration documents.>> > See more at: > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/1890sub/main.htm > The above URL now primarily leads the researcher to persons listed in > all Ancestry.com's online directories of ca. 1890. And hundreds of these > volumes are now online, including directories for New York City (#1 US city > in population in 1890), Philadelphia (#3), Brooklyn (#4) [absorbed by NYC in > 1898], St. Louis (#5), Boston (#6), and Baltimore (#7). Chicago (#2) and > Cleveland (#11) seem to be the only major cities in 1890 that are still not > represented by online directories of ca. 1890. Yet Milwaukee is covered by > TWO directory compilations that frame a three year period: 1889-1891. See: > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4749.htm > -- plus (of limited value)---> > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5259.htm > Below, in response Coralie's research focus, are examples of some of > the goodies one can print out by signing up for Ancestry.com's current FREE > offer: > <<Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial..... Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB.>> > Also included below is some sample (Quackenbush) Census data, mostly > for 1860. This too is a printout (abridged) from Ancestry.com-- and some > Wisconsin counties may be missing from this. Unfortunately Ancestry seems to > include no Federal Census data at all for WI in 1870 and 1880, even though > Ancestry's data does include (for example) IL & MN Census data for 1870, plus > much additional data for IL & MN in 1880. > Personally I prefer freebies, and I'm only rarely an Ancestry.com > member. And once again I find myself about to send out a far more > long-winded posting than I had originally intended. Sorry. .......John (in > Chicago) > > ------------------------------------------ > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/1890sub/main.htm > ----> main link to the 1890 CENSUS SUBSTITUTE > ======================================================== > > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/3581.htm > > EAU CLAIRE, WI-- DIRECTORIES: > > Name, Business Name, Occupation, Residence, City, State, Year > > Edward C QUACKENBUSH Eau Claire Street Railway Co clerk 411 1/2 S > Barstow Eau Claire WI 1889, 1890 > Edward QUACKENBUSH C A Dewey driver Eau Claire WI 1891, 1892 > Edward QUACKENBUSH E C St Ry car operator 116 Niagara Eau Claire > WI 1893 > ======================================================== > > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4749.htm > > MILWAUKEE, WI-- DIRECTORIES: > > QUACKENBUSH -- 1 match in 1890 only > > 1889 Directory: > [QUACKENBUSH- no listing] > John HAGERTY [owner] saloon and boarding house 200 E. Water r. same. > > 1890 Directory: > R. QUACKENBUSH laborer r. 200 E. Water > John HAGERTY, Jr. [owner] saloon and boarding house 200 E. Water r. same > > [200 E. Water in 1890 refers to a location on what is now N. Water St., > probably close to its intersection with modern E. St. Paul Ave. There were > no Bartz or Jackson listings at 200 E. Water in 1889 + 1890.] > _________________________________________________________ > > JACKSON -- 1808 matches in 1889 + 1890 > [Mostly references to Jackson St. in downtown Milwaukee ---> omitted > (mercifully)!] > > If you're looking for Mrs. Benjamin B. Jones > (nee Nancy or "Fanny" Jackson, 1811-1895), > or even Mrs. John J. Collier (Magdalena Quackenbush, > born 1705), JQM has more on both!!] > > Mrs. Fanny Jones [nee Jackson] r. 356 Jefferson Milwaukee 1889 > Mrs. Fanny Jones [nee Jackson] r. 351 Van Buren Milwaukee 1890 > _________________________________________________________ > > GARTZ -- 0 matches > _________________________________________________________ > > BARTZ -- 26 matches ---> > > 1889 Milwaukee Directory: > August Bartz house-mover r. rear 1803 Vliet. > Charles Bartz laborer r. 1088 24th. > Edward H. Bartz clerk 5 Grand avenue r. 436 Jackson. > Frank Bartz carver r. 270 16th. > Frederick Bartz laborer r. 1088 24th. > Frederick Bartz laborer r. 1462 Kinnikinnic avenue > Frederick Bartz teamster r. e. s. 23d, between North avenue & Elm. > Herman Bartz r. 363 Rogers. > John Bartz laborer r. 763 3d avenue > John Bartz tanner r. rear 618 Lloyd. > Ludwig Bartz house-mover r. 270 16th. > Ludwig Bartz laborer r. e. s. 23d, between North avenue & Elm. > Martin Bartz tanner r. 1091 N. Water. > > 1890 Milwaukee Directory: > August Bartz house-mover 309 16th. > Charles Bartz laborer r. 1088 24th. > Edward H. Bartz clerk 5 Grand avenue r. 436 Jackson. > Frank Bartz carver r. 270 16th. > Frederick Bartz laborer r. 1462 Kinnickinnic avenue > Gottlieb Bartz laborer r. 774 23d. > Herman Bartz carpenter r. 363 Rogers. > John Bartz laborer r. 763 3d avenue > John Bartz lanner r. 695 3d. > Louis Bartz house-mover 276 16th r. same. > Louis Bartz laborer r. 774 26d. > Martin Bartz laborer r. 974 Donsman. > Otto Bartz laborer r. 2603 Bismarck. > ____________________________________________________________________ > ============================================================ > > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/3581.htm > > WISCONSIN CENSUS, 1860-most + 1890-veterans > > Year, Surname, Given Name, County, State, Page, Township etc., Database, ID# > _______________________________________________________ > > Federal Census, Wisconsin-- 1860: > > 1860 QUACKENBUSH AUGUSTINE Columbia County WI 517 Pacific WI456152944 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH P. Columbia County WI 240 Dekorra WI456152966 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH J. H. Grant County WI 049 Boscobel WI456152953 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH JAMES R. Green Lake Co. WI 983 Mackford WI456152956 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH JOHN Green Lake County WI 982 Mackford WI456152958 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH HENRY Jackson County WI 1095 Manchester WI456152948 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH JOHN H. Jackson County WI 1093 Manchester WI456152960 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH JOSEPH Jackson County WI 1118 Melrose WI456152961 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH TANY Jefferson County WI 231 Jefferson WI4561529691 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH EZRA La Crosse County WI 009 Barre WI456152946 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH HIRAM La Crosse County WI 009 Barre WI456152951 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH JOSEPH La Crosse County WI 195 Neshonoc WI456152962 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH EMILY Racine County WI 842 Rochester WI456152945 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH GERTRUDE Racine County WI 636 Burlington WI456152947 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH LAMBERT Racine County WI 841 Rochester WI456152963 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH HENRY Rock County WI 689 Turtle WI456152949 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH RICHARD Rock County WI 161 Bradford WI456152967 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH W. Sauk County WI 445 Baraboo WI456152970 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH JACOB Walworth County WI 296 Hudson WI456152954 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH LUKE Walworth County WI 453 Sharon WI456152964 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH NANCY Walworth County WI 454 Sharon WI456152965 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH SOLON Walworth County WI 501 Spring Prairie WI456152968 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH ISAAC Waukesha County WI 187 Vernon WI456152952 > 1860 QUACKENBUSH JACOB Wood County WI 940 Dexter WI456152955 > _______________________________________________________ > > Wisconsin-- 1890 Veterans Schedule: > > 1890 QUACKENBUSH DELEVAN P. Jackson County WI 005 E.D. 143 Black River > WI09627753 > 1890 QUACKENBUSH ERNEST Jackson County WI 001 E.D. 150 Manchester > WI09627754 > 1890 QUACKENBUSH JOHN -DEC- Jackson County WI 002 E.D. 150 Manchester > WI09627757 > 1890 QUACKENBUSH MARIAH -W- Jackson County WI 002 E.D. 150 Manchester > WI09627758 > 1890 QUACKENBUSH ABNER La Crosse County WI 001 E.D. 170 La Crosse > WI09627752 > 1890 QUACKENBUSH JAMES Milwaukee County WI 092 N.W. Branch Ntl Home > WI09627756 > 1890 QUACKENBUSH ISAAC Vernon County WI 001 E.D. 250 Bergen Township > WI09627755 > ____________________________________________________________________ > ============================================================ > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

    07/23/2001 04:52:03