WI "marriages" in "IL" You think you've got problems, Ashley. The dog ate MY e-mail! ALL of it!! _______________________________________________________ > Subj: my e-mail was eaten > Date: 10/21/01 9:26:04 PM Central Daylight Time > From: grubisic@netwurx.net (Ashley Tiwara) > To: JQMagie@aol.com (john) > Was sending you a very long note yesterday, > all about various stuffs, and it was eaten. > My computer crashed. > Tragic....... _______________________________________________________ JQM response: Was sending you a very long note yesterday-- all about various stuffs (including info on some old stiffs), and it was sadly eaten, ALL of it. I had opened my back door to check on the weather, and suddenly a vicious shaggy dog of uncertain pedigree leaped into my home, went directly to my desk where I had placed the floppy disk on which my long e-mail to you had been stored. He (or she) then wolfed down the entire disk, licked his chops, and then departed almost as rapidly as he had arrived. A sort of reverse Santa Claus-- instead of bringing presents, he took off with at least one. Very Upsetting. And very Tragic .........John PS: no big deal-- but yesterday at least FIVE WiMilwau postings, including TWO of yours, Ashley, misspelled the word "marriages." Webmaster Bob Fay not only repeated this "grievous" mistake-- but he also appears to say (see below) that the old ten-story Waukegan hotel that I can generally can see clearly (along with the tall chimneys of the ComEd's Plant to the northeast) from the Lake Michigan shoreline just north of Evanston's Northwestern campus was VACANT. Then he apparently says in the next sentence that this hotel no longer exists. Seems you can't have it both ways. But maybe what Bob MEANT was that the RR next to the hotel (not the hotel itself) had disappeared. But, if so, Bob would here seem to be contradicting his 1/15/01 "Railroad" posting that I had archived (see excerpt below). Last evening some friends and I were rather disappointed with a Chicago Chinese restaurant we visited. I decided to order from the less expensive (but more exotic) "Chinese" menu. My "pork" dish turned out to be about 99% bok choy and fried (and mostly liquefied) tofu-- both terribly bland, until I started pouring on the Sriracha hot sauce. I was surprised to find that the "Chinese" menu at this Chinese restaurant was different from their "regular" menu. Next time I may ask for this latter menu-- or just go to a Thai eatery, which I generally prefer anyway. Or head up to Zion. No SPAM, please. But which Zion restaurants do you recommend, Chinese or otherwise. Zion was founded in 1901 as a utopian settlement by the Christian Catholic Apostolic Church-- and I suspect Zion still strictly enforces some of its old blue laws. So I'm somewhat surprised at your saying that Zion was seen for many years as a "marriage mill" by Wisconsinites. Illinois people must still must still go to "evil" Wisconsin and Indiana to buy fireworks. And, when I was a kid, WI dairy interests successfully block the instate WI selling of margarine that did not have the color of white lard. Everyday, I try to get in a two to three mile fast walk along Lake Michigan-- and today hopefully the visibility will be good enough so that I can see whether that old ten story Waukegan building has disappeared or not. Also, if I can see the FirstStar Bank building in downtown Milwaukee, I'll have fresh evidence that the earth is actually flat-- not round, as is now often assumed. And I promise that my next WiMilwau posting with focus more clearly on Milwaukee. .........John (in Chicago) ================================================ << Subj: Re: [MILWAUKEE CO] Railroads Date: 1/15/01 4:26:23 PM Central Standard Time From: madgrad77@clsurf.com (Robert W Fay) Reply-to: madgrad77@clsurf.com To: [my quoted notes followed by one of Bob's comments] > Always separate from "the Milwaukee Road" was the old Chicago & > Milwaukee RR (part of the Northwestern system since the 1860s, but > recently acquired by the Union Pacific). This was completed in 1855 > between Chicago and Milwaukee and today may only be used for > freight between the downtown Kenosha, Racine, and Milwaukee > (or has some of this line now been abandoned?) ..... I don't think any has been abandoned..... Bob >> ================================================ << Subj: Re: [WiMilwau] WI marraiges in Waukegan, ILL Date: 10/21/01 6:30:31 PM Central Daylight Time From: madgrad77@clsurf.com (Robert W Fay) Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com On 21 Oct 2001, at 17:19 Peg Mertl <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Was Waukegan Ill a 'hot spot' for marriages in the 20's ? Maybe, one would have to check Waukegan city history I suppose. However, I know that there is a 10 story Waukegan Building there as I was in it last year, and it was a fancy 1920's hotel but is now vacant. There was a north-south train that ran past the hotel, now torn out. It's near the lake so perhaps it was the equivalent to a Los Vegas wedding today. Bob Fay >> ================================================ << Subj: Re: [WiMilwau] WI marraiges in Waukegan, ILL Date: 10/21/01 9:16:03 PM Central Daylight Time From: grubisic@netwurx.net (Ashley Tiwara) Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Zion, Il quite recently has had no waiting for blood test results. You just go down there and get married. Perhaps with the AIDS virus this has changed, but it was true 15 years ago, the town was quite proud of this quirk. At that time, Milwaukee had no great Chinese restaurant and I would drive down there often to get something to eat. There was a wonderful old hotel with a 100 foot or more porch, with rockers, which had been turned into an old people's home. It burned down about the time Milwaukee acquired decent Chinese cooking, and I have seldom needed to return to Zion. Byways in genealogy, Ashley >> ================================================

On 23 Oct 2001, at 15:15 JQMagie@aol.com <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> wrote: > PS: no big deal-- but yesterday at least FIVE WiMilwau postings, > including TWO of yours, Ashley, misspelled the word "marriages." > Webmaster Bob Fay not only repeated this "grievous" mistake-- but he > also appears to say (see below) that the old ten-story Waukegan hotel > that I can generally can see clearly (along with the tall chimneys of > the ComEd's Plant to the northeast) from the Lake Michigan shoreline > just north of Evanston's Northwestern campus was VACANT. Actually, what I am saying here is that the old ten story Waukegan Hotel is vacant, as in not occupied by hotel guests, businesses, or apartments dwellers, nor has it been for a long time. I had the pleasure to tour the building with the owner last summer. If you look carefully, you will notice that there is an 80 foot antenna on the roof of the building and the building's current usage is for broadcasting. There is no one normally in the building. Then he > apparently says in the next sentence that this hotel no longer exists. > Seems you can't have it both ways. But maybe what Bob MEANT was > that > the RR next to the hotel (not the hotel itself) had disappeared. But, > if so, Bob would here seem to be contradicting his 1/15/01 "Railroad" > posting that I had archived (see excerpt below). Actually, what I am saying is that the railroad line that used to run in front of the Waukegan Hotel has been torn out. There used to be an interurban line and there used to be the North Shore Railroad, both of which are history and it must have been one of those. Its not the CNW or Milwaukee Road lines of the 1/15/01 posts....obviously those still exist. > Illinois people must still must still go to "evil" Wisconsin and > Indiana to buy fireworks. Don't think you'll be very successful buying them in Wisconsin anymore. And, when I was a kid, WI dairy interests > successfully block the instate WI selling of margarine that did not have > the color of white lard. Actually, when I was a kid we would periodically make trips down to the state line to buy that "evil" yellow colored Illinois margarine. > Everyday, I try to get in a two to three mile fast walk along Lake > Michigan-- and today hopefully the visibility will be good enough so > that I can see whether that old ten story Waukegan building has > disappeared or not. Also, if I can see the FirstStar Bank building in > downtown Milwaukee, I'll have fresh evidence that the earth is actually > flat-- not round, as is now often assumed. It's only flat in Illinois, John! Have fun, Bob

The old North Shore Line runs about 2 blocks from my home. It is now used by the electric Co. for hi voltage transmission lines. A lot of the overpasses on the line have been blown up or dismantled. Lafe Robert W Fay wrote: > > On 23 Oct 2001, at 15:15 JQMagie@aol.com <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > PS: no big deal-- but yesterday at least FIVE WiMilwau postings, > > including TWO of yours, Ashley, misspelled the word "marriages." > > Webmaster Bob Fay not only repeated this "grievous" mistake-- but he > > also appears to say (see below) that the old ten-story Waukegan hotel > > that I can generally can see clearly (along with the tall chimneys of > > the ComEd's Plant to the northeast) from the Lake Michigan shoreline > > just north of Evanston's Northwestern campus was VACANT. > > Actually, what I am saying here is that the old ten story Waukegan Hotel > is vacant, as in not occupied by hotel guests, businesses, or apartments > dwellers, nor has it been for a long time. I had the pleasure to tour the > building with the owner last summer. If you look carefully, you will notice > that there is an 80 foot antenna on the roof of the building and the > building's current usage is for broadcasting. There is no one normally in > the building. > > Then he > > apparently says in the next sentence that this hotel no longer exists. > > Seems you can't have it both ways. But maybe what Bob MEANT was > > that > > the RR next to the hotel (not the hotel itself) had disappeared. But, > > if so, Bob would here seem to be contradicting his 1/15/01 "Railroad" > > posting that I had archived (see excerpt below). > > Actually, what I am saying is that the railroad line that used to run in front > of the Waukegan Hotel has been torn out. There used to be an interurban > line and there used to be the North Shore Railroad, both of which are > history and it must have been one of those. Its not the CNW or > Milwaukee Road lines of the 1/15/01 posts....obviously those still exist. > > > Illinois people must still must still go to "evil" Wisconsin and > > Indiana to buy fireworks. > > Don't think you'll be very successful buying them in Wisconsin anymore. > > And, when I was a kid, WI dairy interests > > successfully block the instate WI selling of margarine that did not have > > the color of white lard. > > Actually, when I was a kid we would periodically make trips down to the > state line to buy that "evil" yellow colored Illinois margarine. > > > Everyday, I try to get in a two to three mile fast walk along Lake > > Michigan-- and today hopefully the visibility will be good enough so > > that I can see whether that old ten story Waukegan building has > > disappeared or not. Also, if I can see the FirstStar Bank building in > > downtown Milwaukee, I'll have fresh evidence that the earth is actually > > flat-- not round, as is now often assumed. > > It's only flat in Illinois, John! > > Have fun, > Bob > > ============================== > Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238