Marcie, Janice is the person that I was going to put you in contact with. She is the one who does research on Hackbarth's and they fit in with the Beerbaums. Your reference to Salzman -- The name is only mentioned once. Information on the Dehling family from St. Peter's Lutheran Church records, Trinity Luth. Church of S. Mequon and Kenneth Salzman, Shawano, Wisc., a descendant. (He donated information to the book about the Dehling family.) Vikki