____________________________________________________________ <<Subj: Re: [WiMilwau] Milwaukee Orphan Asylum Date: 8/17/01 1:31:10 AM Central Daylight Time From: pgosl@ev1.net (Pamela J. Gosling) Reply-to: pgosl@ev1.net (Pamela J. Gosling) To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Hi John, I do have another question for you if you don't mind. . . .was this the only Milwaukee Orphan Asylum ?? According to another lister, the address my Grandmother was living at was an orphan asylum, but a different address?? (I don't have in front of me, but was maybe 15th ST??, namely "Deaconess House", they though affiliated with the Lutheran church?? Is Prospect anywhere near this area?? Or any other information you would know about either of these places would be helpful. If you need the more specific address I can look for it tomorrow. . . Thanks again. Pam >> ____________________________________________________________ Pam-- many thanks for your nice off-list and on-list memos this morning. I don't have much on Milwaukee orphanages and related institutions. Also, because you didn't say in what time period you're mostly interested, it's hard to make good suggestions. But I'd guess that there's many Milwaukee info sources that should be able to answer your special questions above. I've never tried this, but you might first consider e-mailing a few questions to the Milwaukee County Historical Society <mchs@execpc.com>, assuming you don't live near Milwaukee. Also, if you are focused primarily on the pre-1891 period, perhaps someone could check the wonderful Milwaukee Sentinel Index that I've mentioned several times on this list. This Index is on thousands of index cards located in the second floor reading room of the main Milwaukee Public Library. When I'm doing research in Milwaukee (very little lately), I find I'm constantly referring to this Index. ONLY the main Public Library has this-- which is partly why I prefer to do Milwaukee research mostly at the main Public Library, rather than at the Historical Society and other libraries. The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee has a great map collection, and the Historical Society has a great photo collection. But, for someone doing their own library research, I feel the Public Library offers more resources-- and also has MUCH more generous library hours. I see that when anyone activates this 1889-90 Milwaukee Directory URL: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4749.htm -- and then searches for an address (rather than a personal name), Ancestry.com says that they have 7 directory listings for 1315 Cherry, 7 for 1328 Cherry, and 6 for 1229 Cherry-- while entering "Deaconess" yields zero results. All seven of the 1315 Cherry listings are repeated below, while clearly almost all of the residents (or businesses) at the other two addresses are not listed under Zipfel. These other addresses might just be boarding houses occupied by unrelated people. But perhaps a regular Ancestry.com subscriber would be willing to send you the other listings for these two Cherry Street addresses. Some or all of these listings could well be for relatives of yours. I have copies that some sections of a 1858 Milwaukee map that show that the 13th & Cherry area (part of the 9th Ward) was rather densely populated even as long ago as the 1850s. Looks like this was primarily a German area in the late 19th century. And I noticed some time ago that in 1891 several mansions (no longer standing) of the Uihlein family-- then owners of the Schlitz brewery-- were located just east of this area, near 4th & Galena streets. Also, I noted that in 1891 Frederick Pabst, another famous German brewer name, was still living nearby at 828 Chestnut St., even though his mansion still located at 20th & West Wisconsin may then have been under construction (see http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5259.htm). ........John (in Chicago). PS: note that Prospect Ave. runs along the Lake Michigan shore and extends northeasterly away from downtown Milwaukee. It is also east of the Milwaukee River, while 15th and other numbered streets are north-south streets that are all west of the Milwaukee River.