Susan - I have Diederichs (Nicholas Michael) from Collis, MN in my family tree. Which names are you researching? My family came to Canada. Diane in Saskatchewan, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Susan Nokes <snokes@tscnet.com> To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] New Surname Postings Seeking contact with anyone researching the names: GLESIUS LENGER LINGER MICHELS THELEN (Anna Marie, w/o George Michels) DEITRICH Nicolas Deitrich DEDERICH REICH (Anna Maria, w/o Joseph Michels) JONEN (Heinrich Jonen, h/o Elizabeth Michels) HOLZEM (Jacob Holzem, h/o Ann Michels) KLEIN SCHWISTER WICK CASTENHOLZ WASSERBUGER DEWERTH GOLL HERKERT FUSS (esp. interested in Henry Fuss line) WEIAND KNOPFEL ( Minnie, 2nd w/o Dr. Joseph M. Linger) SCHAEFER (Related to Dr. Joseph and children: Chist W., Raymond A., and Eva FLINT, nee Schaefer) JUNGER YOUNGER KLEIN FORSTER/FORESTER (Albina Rose w/o George L. WEIAND) MASUHR (GOETZ) HOLZEM HOLZHEM MELDER (Anna, w/o Chrysanthus Holzem) (Maria, w/o Josephus Holzem) BRAHM (Joanum, h/o Eva Holzem) MARZOLF (George, h/o Margaret Holzem) SCHNEIDER (John h/o Ana Christian Holzem) (Engelburt h/o Ana Maria Holzem) BLIESNER GLIESBERG STAUBLE FISCHER (Dorothy, w/o Nicholas Jonen) SCHULDENBERG GROSS LUEDTKE FUCHS FLEISCHMANN PFEIFFER HAEHN KRAUSE (Rose, w/o Henry Eugene WEIAND) KRUECKE SPANGENBURG RENNER ARNOLD THOMPSON (Ethel K., w/o John Adam WEIAND) WANDERLIN TROSSEN (Elizabeth Trossen, widow of Joseph Junglen, w/o Mathais Lenger) ========= The locations of these individuals included: Granville, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin West Granville, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Granville Township, Wisconsin Engelsburg, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Greenfield, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Fussville, Waukesha County, Wisconsin Menomonee Falls (part of what was Fussville), Waukesha County, Oconomowoc, Waukesha Co., Wisconsin Town of Belgium, Ozaukee Co, Wisconsin Thiensville, Ozaukee Co., Wisconsin Township of Mequon, Washington County, Wisconsin Watertown, Jefferson County, Wisconsin Jefferson, Jefferson County, Wisconsin Aztalan, Jefferson County, Wisconsin Stearns County, Minnesota, Wisconsin Wakefield Township, Minnesota Cold Spring Township(Wakefield was renamed) Richmond, Stearns County, Minnesota St. Cloud, Stearns County, Minnesota Looking forward to hearing form anyone researching these lines or having experience researching these towns, townships, and counties, Thank you in advance, Susan snokes@tscnet.com Explanation and apology to those I may not have responded to: I temporarily removed to Wisconsin from March 2001-Dec 2001. my parents were in ill health. My mother passed away in June 2001. When I checked on my e-mails from while I was gone--9 months--there were 3900 of them..I went to my server and asked them if they could download them on a zip or CD--they said they couldn't. I explained my fear that if I downloaded all of them, it might "crash" my computer--so they told me how to read them while still on their server. My husband, Gregg, saw this advertisement about an on-line pharmacy--but didn't have enough memory to download the info--so he insisted on using my computer, insisting that I download the 3900 messages to give him enough space for this company to send the info. By downloading the 3900 messages, my system contracted a virus and wiped out my whole computer. During "clean-up" of the virus, I lost all of my 3900 messages, all my email addresses and all my bookmarks...and an unknown amount of family history. I have the new version of McAfee and am using it before opening my mail. ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Susan - I have a great grandmother who, according to the family bible was Ida Caroline LINGE and married Emil Edward HARTMANN in the 1860s. They raised their family in Milwaukee. I cannot find any record of her before marriage or any record of their marriage. I have always had a hunch that LINGE was not her complete name, that the bible entry was wrong or mispelled or shortened or something. You have LINGER on your list. Can this be a connection to my Ida Caroline LINGE? Also, I have a Pauline RENNER m Carl MALISCHKE in Germany in the 1870s. They came to Milwaukee in 1881 with two children. Is this a connection to your RENNER surname? Helen in Appleton WI -----Original Message----- From: Susan Nokes <snokes@tscnet.com> To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] New Surname Postings Seeking contact with anyone researching the names: GLESIUS LENGER LINGER MICHELS THELEN (Anna Marie, w/o George Michels) DEITRICH Nicolas Deitrich DEDERICH REICH (Anna Maria, w/o Joseph Michels) JONEN (Heinrich Jonen, h/o Elizabeth Michels) HOLZEM (Jacob Holzem, h/o Ann Michels) KLEIN SCHWISTER WICK CASTENHOLZ WASSERBUGER DEWERTH GOLL HERKERT FUSS (esp. interested in Henry Fuss line) WEIAND KNOPFEL ( Minnie, 2nd w/o Dr. Joseph M. Linger) SCHAEFER (Related to Dr. Joseph and children: Chist W., Raymond A., and Eva FLINT, nee Schaefer) JUNGER YOUNGER KLEIN FORSTER/FORESTER (Albina Rose w/o George L. WEIAND) MASUHR (GOETZ) HOLZEM HOLZHEM MELDER (Anna, w/o Chrysanthus Holzem) (Maria, w/o Josephus Holzem) BRAHM (Joanum, h/o Eva Holzem) MARZOLF (George, h/o Margaret Holzem) SCHNEIDER (John h/o Ana Christian Holzem) (Engelburt h/o Ana Maria Holzem) BLIESNER GLIESBERG STAUBLE FISCHER (Dorothy, w/o Nicholas Jonen) SCHULDENBERG GROSS LUEDTKE FUCHS FLEISCHMANN PFEIFFER HAEHN KRAUSE (Rose, w/o Henry Eugene WEIAND) KRUECKE SPANGENBURG RENNER ARNOLD THOMPSON (Ethel K., w/o John Adam WEIAND) WANDERLIN TROSSEN (Elizabeth Trossen, widow of Joseph Junglen, w/o Mathais Lenger) ========= The locations of these individuals included: Granville, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin West Granville, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Granville Township, Wisconsin Engelsburg, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Greenfield, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Fussville, Waukesha County, Wisconsin Menomonee Falls (part of what was Fussville), Waukesha County, Oconomowoc, Waukesha Co., Wisconsin Town of Belgium, Ozaukee Co, Wisconsin Thiensville, Ozaukee Co., Wisconsin Township of Mequon, Washington County, Wisconsin Watertown, Jefferson County, Wisconsin Jefferson, Jefferson County, Wisconsin Aztalan, Jefferson County, Wisconsin Stearns County, Minnesota, Wisconsin Wakefield Township, Minnesota Cold Spring Township(Wakefield was renamed) Richmond, Stearns County, Minnesota St. Cloud, Stearns County, Minnesota Looking forward to hearing form anyone researching these lines or having experience researching these towns, townships, and counties, Thank you in advance, Susan snokes@tscnet.com Explanation and apology to those I may not have responded to: I temporarily removed to Wisconsin from March 2001-Dec 2001. my parents were in ill health. My mother passed away in June 2001. When I checked on my e-mails from while I was gone--9 months--there were 3900 of them..I went to my server and asked them if they could download them on a zip or CD--they said they couldn't. I explained my fear that if I downloaded all of them, it might "crash" my computer--so they told me how to read them while still on their server. My husband, Gregg, saw this advertisement about an on-line pharmacy--but didn't have enough memory to download the info--so he insisted on using my computer, insisting that I download the 3900 messages to give him enough space for this company to send the info. By downloading the 3900 messages, my system contracted a virus and wiped out my whole computer. During "clean-up" of the virus, I lost all of my 3900 messages, all my email addresses and all my bookmarks...and an unknown amount of family history. I have the new version of McAfee and am using it before opening my mail.

Helen, You can reach me at: snokes@tscnet.com In my data base, I have a: Robert Renner married to an Anita Weiand. Anita was born on March 16, 1923 in Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin. I do not have the names of the parents for Robert Renner. Robert and Anita had two children which I know of: Judy and Thomas. Anita Weiand is the daughter of: Nicolaus Weiand and Adele Otillia Elizabetha Spangenburg... Nicolaus Weiand Nicolaus Weiand was born September 11, 1887 in Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin (Source: Milwaukee County Birth Index, Vol 92, page 184) and died June 10, 1946 in Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin (Milwaukee County Death Index). He married Adele Otillia Elizabetha Spangenburg on October 1, 1913 in St. Michael's Catholic Church , Milwaukee, Wisconsin (Source: (1) Milwaukee County Marriage Record, (2) St. Michael's Catholic Church Records, Vol 7, page 15). She was born June 19, 1887 in Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin (Source: Milwaukee County Death Index) Notes for Nicholaus Weiand: From the book" Milaukee of To-Day-The Cream City of the Lakes"; published by Phoenix Publishing Co., Milwaukee, WI and Chicago, Il.; p. 131. "One of the most prosperous and successful livery and undertaking establishments in Milwaukee is that of Mr. Nic Weiand, whose main store is at 463 Eleventh Street, and who has another store on the corner of Twenty-fourth and Vliet Streets, and a livery barn at the corner of Twenty-fourth and Walnut Streets. The telephone call for the main store is 809, two rings, and that for the livery barn is 809, three rings. This successful business was established sixteen years ago by Mr. N. Weiand, father of the present proprietor, who succeeded him six years ago. Mr. Weiand is a practical, experienced embalmer, and is a graduate of the Clark School of Embalming. His reception rooms and undertaking rooms are elegantly fitted up, and here is to be found a large stock of coffins, caskets and bural caskets and funeral goods of all kinds. He has also a hansome funeral car, and a splendid assortment of coaches, landaus, barouches and buggies, with fifteen horses, and is prepared to do undertaking and funeral directing from death to interment. He also furnishes carriages for funerals, weddings, parties, etc., and has none but the best turnouts. Mr.Weiand was born in Milwaukee, and has always been identified with its best business interests." 1920 Residence: 2526 Vine St., Milwaukee, Wisconsin (Source: 1920 Census) Occupation: 1920, Undertaker and Adele Otillia Elizabetha Spangenburg, 1967 Residence: Last residence: Brookfield, Wisconsin 53151 (Source: Social Security Death Index) Social Security #: 396-44-5162 === Below are names excerpted from my great grandfather's Funeral Book. Please let me know if you are familiar with any of them: Found in a large box in the basement of Coreen Petta's home labeled, "From Doc's Desk". (Doc Ackerman was Lorraine Hoppe (nee Linger)'s second husband) There was a funeral book: Geo L. Weiand, Funeral Director; 3412 W. Center St. (Milwaukee, WI) In Loving Memory of Dr. Joseph Linger; Birth Place: Oconomowoc, Wisconsin; Date: November 19\0, 1871; Entered into Rest: October 5th, 1941 in Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin. Aged 69 years, 10 month and 45 Days-------Requiem Mass at St. Sebastian's on October 8, 1941 at 10 AM------Interment: Calvary Cemetery, Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin on October 8th, 1941. Casket Bearers: Dr. H. Kalscheuer, M. Castenholz, Chas. Reiter, Ted Star(nin?), and Dr. E. Seegers Relatives attending: Mrs. Emma M. Kelley; Marian Kelley; Martin Schottler; Louisa Schottler; George J. Schuh; M&M A. J. Weiand; Math Jonen; Edna Schwister; M&M Sylvester Kreuser; and Raymond Jonen Friends who called: M&M George A. Jaster; Carl Hoz(im?); Mrs. Jos. Forester; Mrs. F. B. Miller; M&M H F Hoppe; M&M August Rack; Dr. and Mrs E. C. Segers; Mrs. Marge Weiand Masuhr; Mrs. Ruby ( Weirirkauf ?); Mrs. Fred (Werierkauf?); Wm. E. Murphy; M&M Frank Kohler; Charles T. Frey; Phillip Rack; M&M M. Heinen; M&M H. Siel; M&M W. Frangen; Mrs. W. Frangen, Sr.; Mrs. W. Frangan (Schaefer); Mrs. A. G. Stegemeyer; Mrs. Clarence S. Becker; Mrs. Albina F. Wei(r or n); Mrs. Irene Knobbe; Miss Janice Knobbe; Mrs. John Schaefer; M&M H. R. Addicks; M&M Erv Meier; Clarence (S.?) Becker; Albina F. Wein; L. W. Toelle-Quality Fuel Oil Co.;M&M John Pattow; F. M. Fischbach; Mrs. Walter Hoppe; M&M Ted Stamm; Francis J. Ott; M&M Frank Kores; Mrs. Nelson; Gilbert Wehner; Mrs. Louise Lauerhaas; M&M Henry Holzen; Mr. W. H. Ogle; Mr. N. A. Stuart; M&M Joseph F. Lauer; M&M Joseph Meinga(st or rt??) Sr.; M&M Wm. M. Roof; Mrs. Laura Delaforte; Mrs. Miolo Bolton; E.F. Sanders; M&M Albert Eine(u or W??); M&M Fred Reinhold; William R. Reinhold; Richard Kochr Lang; M&M A. F. Sch (invale or wale or wak??); Dr. W. B. Ford; Ella Schmitz; M&M F. W. Bliesner; M&M F. Berner; M&M Theo J. LaChapelli; Mrs. W. V. Paul;Mrs. F. Gubler; M&M K. A. Weber; Mrs. Herman Ubbelohde; M&M Elroy Huntington; M&M Albert E. Haak; M&M Fueger; Mrs. Arthur Luidtke; Andrew Petta, Jr.; M&M Matt Halbben?; M&M Anthony Raaf; M&M Carl Schetten(berg or burg?); M&M G. W. Lasby or Lasly; Leo Werner and daughters; M&M A. Brettmann; Dr. and Mrs. Wm J. Benson; ???Entry unreadable??..Woman's Auxilliary; Mrs. Dorothy Orloski; Mrs. I. J. Letain; Mrs. John Eh(urmannM&M Wm. Knatzschmal??; M&M G. J. Kullmann; John (unreadable); M&M A. Lauer; M&M Jos Bleier; M&M Chas. Kaulf??; M&M Louis M. Koehn; Mrs. E. H. Butterfield; M&M Ralph Hoppe; M&M Fred A. Hoppe; M&M G. J. Willing; Max Gottleib; M&M E. J. Heggestad; Flora Nenning; Mrs. Elizabeth Hoppe; M&M James Rourke; M&M Harry F. Wolff; M&M (Gurge?) Mingers; M&M L. W. Lass; ??? G. Sopp; Mrs. P. J. Holzhaeuser; Mrs. A. Fribiger; Mrs. C. Adler; Mrs. E. Hoffmann; M&M M. (Czllinow??); Harry D. Ohl; Fred Berling; Walter G. Mahar; L. P. Kenny MH.M.S.; J. E. Barren; Harry Henes; M&M Ray Hoppe; M&M John Holzem, Menominee Falls; Mrs. Fred Schumacher; M&M Wm. Brunner; Antoinette Schroeder and Frank; M&M John Oed; M&M J. Duchek; M&M Fred W. Hoppe; F. J. (Benre?) 2336 W 63 St.-Wauwatosa; M&M Chas. O. Reiter; M&M P. J. Shimmel; M&M C. J. Eadler; Frances Waitmann; M&M H. Preuss; M&M A. Boppel; Mrs. H. Ohl; Mrs. E. (P. or T.)Sanders or Sauders; (next entry unreadable); Eugene Weiand; Anton J. Brahm; A. R. Moed, Sr.; H- - Y Bell - art; Ferd A. Bittl; Mrs. John A. Weiand; M&M Henry Brahm; Harold Brahm; Meta (Meu----nler);Mrs. H. E. Georgi; Mrs. George Knipfel and Marie; M&M (Ea?) Hartmann; Mrs. Eva Brahm; Mrs. Anthony Clark; Dr. and Mrs. F.C. (Margutes?); M&M Henry E. Weiand; M&M A. A. Deuster; M&M H. Hauck; M&M Ed Simonis; M&M Gordon Ische; H.O. Hoppe; Estelle E. Weber; Donald Weber; M&M Stephan Roehl; Etta Schmitz; A. Schaefer; Mrs. Joseph Hol(zem?); Fred H. Bliesener; George Ott; M&M Henry Jonen; M&M A. J. Paulsen; Mrs. Clara Schwister; M&M Henry Schwister; M&M H. Bowers; M&M (James?) Sch....);M&M M. (J.?) Castenholz or Casterholz; Alois G. Pimpl; M&M S. Sandelin and Alma; Mrs. Edw. Arnesan; Dr. and Mrs Henry Kelscheuer; Otto A. Haeute; Georgia Meyer; M&M HA Wieben; Mrs. E. Robbins; M&M H. A. Wegner; M&M W. H. Gruner; Paul Wm Schuh; M&M Allen A. Ische; Roy Ott; M&M A.J. Paulsen; G. J. Dreyer; M&M John Mullan(g?);M&M (Katzfey; Mrs, C. Sch....ander; Henry Schneider; Albert C. Weigel; Ed M. Cary; Mrs. T. Eggersg..uss; M&M Nic Klein; M&M Christ W. Schaefer; Annette Schaefer; Dr. J. H. Schaefer; M&M Wm. Gleisberg; Mrs. Elizabeth Brahm; Margares Brahm; Fred Goebel; Erwin Goebel; M&M Harry Goebel; M&M A. J. Gengler; M&M Wm. (J or T) Stakel; Mrs. Emilie Rohr; Mrs. Arthur Castenholz; Mrs. H. F. Hoppe and Edward Po..k ----- Original Message ----- > Susan - > I have a great grandmother who, according to the family bible was Ida > Caroline LINGE and > married Emil Edward HARTMANN in the 1860s. They raised their family in > Milwaukee. I cannot find any record of her before marriage or any record of > their marriage. I have always had a hunch that LINGE was not her complete > name, that the bible entry was wrong or mispelled or shortened > or something. You have LINGER on your list. Can this be a connection to my > Ida Caroline LINGE? > > Also, I have a Pauline RENNER m Carl MALISCHKE in Germany in the 1870s. > They came to Milwaukee in 1881 with two children. Is this a connection to > your RENNER surname? > > Helen in Appleton WI > >

Diane, I have a Margaret LENGER who arrived with her parents in New York in September 1847. They traveled to SE Wisconsin and seem to have settled first in the Town of Greenfield, Milwaukee county, WI. Margaret was born Abt. 1836. I do not know when or where she was married, so I have no way of knowing who her husband's parents were of if he had any siblings... Records from St. Anthony's Catholic Church in Fussvile (Menomonee Falls), Wisconsin indicate that Margaret LENGER may have married a Nicolas Deitrich. Do you know anythin about him? Thank you in advance, Susan snokes@tscnet.com