Helen, It is very possible that there is a connection! My greta-grandfather, Dr. Joseph LINGER died in November 1941. I have his funeral book and in it there are HARTMANN's who signed the book... Found in a large box in the basement of Coreen Petta's home labeled, "From Doc's Desk". (Doc Ackerman was Lorraine Hoppe (nee Linger)'s second husband) There was a funeral book: Geo L. Weiand, Funeral Director; 3412 W. Center St. (Milwaukee, WI) In Loving Memory of Dr. Joseph Linger; Birth Place: Oconomowoc, Wisconsin; Date: November 19\0, 1871; Entered into Rest: October 5th, 1941 in Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin. Aged 69 years, 10 month and 45 Days-------Requiem Mass at St. Sebastian's on October 8, 1941 at 10 AM------Interment: Calvary Cemetery, Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin on October 8th, 1941. I will give you an excerpt of the names in the order they were signed, as often people who were related would arrive together: Mrs. George Knipfel and Marie; M&M (Ea?) Hartmann; Mrs. Eva Brahm; Mrs. Anthony Clark; In my database, I have a Robert Renner married to an Anita Weiand (born 16 March 1923). I have 2 children listed for this marriage--there could be more: Judy Renner and Thomas Renner...they are related to me through a MICHELS line...the MICHELS line includes: JONEN, WEIAND, Spangenburg, LINGER, HOLZEM and REICH lines.. Do any of these fit with your lines? Susan snokes@tscnet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Lueck" <littlelu@athenet.net> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 6:51 PM Subject: RE: [WiMilwau] New Surname Postings > Susan - > I have a great grandmother who, according to the family bible was Ida > Caroline LINGE and > married Emil Edward HARTMANN in the 1860s. They raised their family in > Milwaukee. I cannot find any record of her before marriage or any record of > their marriage. I have always had a hunch that LINGE was not her complete > name, that the bible entry was wrong or mispelled or shortened > or something. You have LINGER on your list. Can this be a connection to my > Ida Caroline LINGE? > > Also, I have a Pauline RENNER m Carl MALISCHKE in Germany in the 1870s. > They came to Milwaukee in 1881 with two children. Is this a connection to > your RENNER surname? > > Helen in Appleton WI > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Nokes <snokes@tscnet.com> > To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:40 AM > Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] New Surname Postings > > > Seeking contact with anyone researching the names: > GLESIUS > LENGER > LINGER > MICHELS > THELEN (Anna Marie, w/o George Michels) > DEITRICH Nicolas Deitrich > DEDERICH > REICH (Anna Maria, w/o Joseph Michels) > JONEN (Heinrich Jonen, h/o Elizabeth Michels) > HOLZEM (Jacob Holzem, h/o Ann Michels) > KLEIN > SCHWISTER > WICK > CASTENHOLZ > WASSERBUGER > DEWERTH > GOLL > HERKERT > FUSS (esp. interested in Henry Fuss line) > WEIAND > KNOPFEL ( Minnie, 2nd w/o Dr. Joseph M. Linger) > SCHAEFER > (Related to Dr. Joseph and children: Chist W., Raymond A., > and Eva FLINT, nee Schaefer) > JUNGER > YOUNGER > KLEIN > FORSTER/FORESTER > (Albina Rose w/o George L. WEIAND) > MASUHR (GOETZ) > HOLZEM > HOLZHEM > MELDER > (Anna, w/o Chrysanthus Holzem) > (Maria, w/o Josephus Holzem) > BRAHM (Joanum, h/o Eva Holzem) > MARZOLF (George, h/o Margaret Holzem) > SCHNEIDER > (John h/o Ana Christian Holzem) > (Engelburt h/o Ana Maria Holzem) > BLIESNER > GLIESBERG > STAUBLE > FISCHER (Dorothy, w/o Nicholas Jonen) > SCHULDENBERG > GROSS > LUEDTKE > FUCHS > FLEISCHMANN > PFEIFFER > HAEHN > KRAUSE (Rose, w/o Henry Eugene WEIAND) > KRUECKE > SPANGENBURG > RENNER > ARNOLD > THOMPSON (Ethel K., w/o John Adam WEIAND) > WANDERLIN > TROSSEN > (Elizabeth Trossen, widow of Joseph Junglen, w/o Mathais Lenger) > ========= > The locations of these individuals included: > Granville, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin > West Granville, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin > Granville Township, Wisconsin > Engelsburg, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin > Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin > Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin > Greenfield, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin > Fussville, Waukesha County, Wisconsin > Menomonee Falls (part of what was Fussville), Waukesha County, > Oconomowoc, Waukesha Co., Wisconsin > Town of Belgium, Ozaukee Co, Wisconsin > Thiensville, Ozaukee Co., Wisconsin > Township of Mequon, Washington County, Wisconsin > Watertown, Jefferson County, Wisconsin > Jefferson, Jefferson County, Wisconsin > Aztalan, Jefferson County, Wisconsin > Stearns County, Minnesota, Wisconsin > Wakefield Township, Minnesota > Cold Spring Township(Wakefield was renamed) > Richmond, Stearns County, Minnesota > St. Cloud, Stearns County, Minnesota > > Looking forward to hearing form anyone researching these lines or having > experience researching these towns, townships, and counties, > > Thank you in advance, > Susan > snokes@tscnet.com > Explanation and apology to those I may not have responded to: > I temporarily removed to Wisconsin from March 2001-Dec 2001. my parents > were in ill health. My mother passed away in June 2001. > > When I checked on my e-mails from while I was gone--9 months--there were > 3900 of them..I went to my server and asked them if they could download them > on a zip or CD--they said they couldn't. I explained my fear that if I > downloaded all of them, it might "crash" my computer--so they told me how to > read them while still on their server. > > My husband, Gregg, saw this advertisement about an on-line pharmacy--but > didn't have enough memory to download the info--so he insisted on using my > computer, insisting that I download the 3900 messages to give him enough > space for this company to send the info. > > By downloading the 3900 messages, my system contracted a virus and wiped out > my whole computer. During "clean-up" of the virus, I lost all of my 3900 > messages, all my email addresses and all my bookmarks...and an unknown > amount of family history. > > I have the new version of McAfee and am using it before opening my mail. > > > > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello again Susan, Thank you for answering so promptly. Your info concerning Joseph Linger certainly could be a connection. I will research that further via census, city directories, etc. The Hartmann's you mention do not ring a bell with my records but one never can be sure without further research. Coincedental info is that St. Sebastian's Church in Milwaukee is the Church I attended. I went to grade school and was married there. The Weiand Funeral Home is also familiar. In the funeral book is there anyone named MALISCHKE who signed? That would be a good connection for me, especially in 1941. Thanks also for your RENNER info. I do not think that my line fits any of your info. Helen in Appleton -----Original Message----- From: Susan Nokes [mailto:snokes@tscnet.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:31 AM To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] New Surname Postings Helen, It is very possible that there is a connection! My greta-grandfather, Dr. Joseph LINGER died in November 1941. I have his funeral book and in it there are HARTMANN's who signed the book... Found in a large box in the basement of Coreen Petta's home labeled, "From Doc's Desk". (Doc Ackerman was Lorraine Hoppe (nee Linger)'s second husband) There was a funeral book: Geo L. Weiand, Funeral Director; 3412 W. Center St. (Milwaukee, WI) In Loving Memory of Dr. Joseph Linger; Birth Place: Oconomowoc, Wisconsin; Date: November 19\0, 1871; Entered into Rest: October 5th, 1941 in Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin. Aged 69 years, 10 month and 45 Days-------Requiem Mass at St. Sebastian's on October 8, 1941 at 10 AM------Interment: Calvary Cemetery, Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin on October 8th, 1941. I will give you an excerpt of the names in the order they were signed, as often people who were related would arrive together: Mrs. George Knipfel and Marie; M&M (Ea?) Hartmann; Mrs. Eva Brahm; Mrs. Anthony Clark; In my database, I have a Robert Renner married to an Anita Weiand (born 16 March 1923). I have 2 children listed for this marriage--there could be more: Judy Renner and Thomas Renner...they are related to me through a MICHELS line...the MICHELS line includes: JONEN, WEIAND, Spangenburg, LINGER, HOLZEM and REICH lines.. Do any of these fit with your lines? Susan snokes@tscnet.com -

Hi, My mother and her sister attended St. Sebastian's Catholic Church. Both my older sisters were baptized there. My great grandfather, Dr. Jospeh Linger, oened a house in the "High;ands"..best I can figure for an address might have been off the death certificate for his wife Annie. I had always wanted to go take a picture of the house to see if it matched the one in an old photo album of my grandmother's. Obit: Milwaukee Journal; Part 8; Sunday, July 5, 1925: LINGER--Anna, nee OTT, beloved wife of Dr. Joseph Linger and mother of Lorraine Hoppe (cannot make out next line)... of Marilynn and Coreen Hoppe, sister of George Ott, Louise Schottler, Alois, and Ben; Friday, June 3, at the age of 53 (cannot read next line)...at 8:30 AM from the parlors of George L. Weiand 451 30... to Gesu church. interrment Calvary Cemetery. She was a member of St. Ann's Sick Benefit Society of St. Boniface church. LaCrosse papers please copy. It was located at: 34 Upper Parkway, Wauwatosa, Wisconsin. In Annie's autograph book are the following people: Signatures found in an old Autograph book belonging to Annie Ott: Katherina M. Ott Your friend Josie Hecht, 1888 (40 SSN issued in WI, several in Milwaukee and LaCrosse)). Yours truely, Theo Kimfile (probably Kimple--2 found/one in Waukesha County). Your cousin, Rosie Boehm (SSN: 248 in WI) Walfried (Obneft--?sp) Your brother, George--Milwaukee April 23, 1891 Your friend Otto Eckhardt--Aug 26, 1888 (SSN 47 in WI)(56013 (Blue Earth, Faribault, MN b. 11 Aug 1877 ) and (78624 (Fredericksburg, Gillespie, TX b. 24 Apr 1894) Dear cousin Annie--October 29, 1890--New Frankfurt, Mo--signed John Kopeller (SSN 2 in WI; 20 in MO. most in St. Louis) Your friend Joes Reunte, Milwaukee 8, 1888 (may be Runte--SSN 29 in WI ) Dear sister, Louise Ott, Jan 6, 1896 Thresa (spelled as found in book) Reunte, Your loving friend, Milwaukee 8, 1888 (may be Runte) Dear Annie, Your friend Lizzie Wicks, March 13, 1887, Milwaukee (SSN 36 in WI) "Your Affectionate" Eddie Eckhardt, August the 26th Your friend Gertie Pllinger Jan 16, 1891--Louisa Ott Emil Long (or Lang) LaCrosse, March 13, 1889, Anna Rercher Milwaukee 18, 1887 no entry Milwaukee, March 13, 1887, ?Wilhelm J. Ott Aug 26, 1888, John Kleiner (may be Kleinert) (SSN 44 in WI) Anything familiar here? Do you still live in Wisconsin? Susan snokes@tscnet.com