Name: Frank Deja Date of Death: 10/10/1940 Date of Burial: 10/14/1940 Age at Death: 64 Marital Status: Married Last Address: 739 A West Greenfield Ave. Funeral Home: Lohman Cemetery: Mount Olivet Cemetery Location: Block: 15 Section: Row: 2 Lot: Grave: 67 Other Dejas also found at cemeteries.org site Lois mfehrer@execpc.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <sandisgifts70665@peoplepc.com> To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: [WIMILWAU] Look up - FHC - Deja > If anyone out there goes to the Hales Corner FHC., I would be forever greatful if you could look up in the 1895 & 1905 Wisconsin State Census for Milw. Co. for the names > Michael & Anastasia Deja > Franz -son- age 4 > Martha-daughter-age 11 months > Deja has also been spelled as Dea. > > Thank you in advance. > I want to thank everyone on this list that has been so nice in helping me on my family search. God Bless You all.. Sandy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Mary, that's a really good idea. Can someone there verify whether or not it's copyrighted material? If it is proven certain that it isn't copyrighted (and assuming it isn't so huge that I don't have room!) I'd be delighted to put it on my website for all to access. If it IS huge perhaps a zip file would condense it enough to make it possible. Can anyone estimate how many pages it might be? Is there any ummmm...."formula" to the changes? For example, "All numbered streets on the north side of XXX Avenue were changed by adding "100 as a prefix to the original number"...or "numbered streets north of XXX Avenue added the designation "North" to the address and all numbered streets South of XXX Avenue added the designation "South"........ that kind of thing. John, thank you for both the info and the offer of help. I probably won't have time to go through all of my Milwaukee people and figure out which streets I really need to check out until after my work on the Girl Scout cookie sale in March is over, but it will be at the top of my agenda. If I can't find another to get the info I needway I may ask you to check out one or two houses. If my parents were still around I'd have a few words for them about dragging me all the way to Florida when I was a child...lol Thanks for the responses..........dianne P.S. to John, your "SISU" always brings a smile to my face...and "SISU" to you. >Dianne, >I have never found an online source for the street changes. They are >actually published in a rather large (size of paper) booklet of many >pages. I have been wondering if there is a copyright on the booklet or >not (not sure how to find out). If there wasn't, then it might be >worth it to put this all into an online database. Doesn't anybody know >about copyright law on such things? The booklet gives all the changes, >house number by house number. > >mrf > > > > > <> > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:56:58 -0600 > From: John <circlescape@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] a real question Milwaukee Address Changes > To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <6c2cc1670701040856y44df7c47ke3d9bdff740f9a@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Dianne- > > The Milwaukee Public Library Humanities Department has always been very > helpful to me when trying to determine the address conversions. You can > contact them either by phone at: (414) 286-3061 or via e-mail at: > http://www.questionpoint.org/crs/servlet/org.oclc.home.TFSRedirect?virtcategory=11648. > The following link will explain what the library offers for the > genealogy > seeker: http://www.mpl.org/file/hum_genealogy.htm . > > If you need someone with access, I am a card holder of the Milwaukee > Public > Library and would be willing to help. > > Good Luck & SISU! > John in Racine WI > > Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:07:26 -0800 -- Begin doing what you want to do now. We are not living in eternity. We have only this moment, sparkling like a star in our hand and melting like a snowflake. Marie Beyon Ray
Michael and Anastasia Deja's daughter Anastasia was married to my Grandfather's brother. His name was John Kubacki. I have some records on them if you're interested. Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: <sandisgifts70665@peoplepc.com> To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: [WIMILWAU] Look up - FHC - Deja > If anyone out there goes to the Hales Corner FHC., I would be forever greatful if you could look up in the 1895 & 1905 Wisconsin State Census for Milw. Co. for the names > Michael & Anastasia Deja > Franz -son- age 4 > Martha-daughter-age 11 months > Deja has also been spelled as Dea. > > Thank you in advance. > I want to thank everyone on this list that has been so nice in helping me on my family search. God Bless You all.. Sandy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
go to WWW.linkstothepast ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary R. Frank" <mrfrank@uwm.edu> To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] a real question Dianne, I have never found an online source for the street changes. They are actually published in a rather large (size of paper) booklet of many pages. I have been wondering if there is a copyright on the booklet or not (not sure how to find out). If there wasn't, then it might be worth it to put this all into an online database. Doesn't anybody know about copyright law on such things? The booklet gives all the changes, house number by house number. mrf Dianne Larson Ward wrote: > Does anyone have easy access to whatever the source is that has the > Milwaukee address changes over the years? I know some streets have > changed. That's easy to find...it's the house numbers that are driving > me nuts. > > Cheryl, I love your tag line! > > Thank you.........dianne > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Woops, wrong ones. Sorry! Sandy showed me that they were transcribed as DEA in 1900. John On 1/3/07, John <circlescape@gmail.com> wrote: > > I found them under Micheal & Rose DEGA in 1900 & 1910. Nothing in 1920. > > John in Racine > > Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 14:01:37 -0600 > > From: "Mary R. Frank" < mrfrank@uwm.edu> > > Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] census-Deja 1890? > > To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <459C0BA1.20803@uwm.edu > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Sandy, where did you find them in the 1900 census (under what > > spelling)? I saw a Michael and Anna Deja on Ancestry for 1910 and 1920, > > but not for 1900. I assume these are not your Michael and Anastasia? > > > > 1910: > > Michael Deja 58 > > Anna Deja 55 > > Laudislava Deja 21 > > Bernard Deja 18 > > Helen Deja 13 > > > > And again in 1920: > > Michail Deja 68 > > Anna Deja 64 > > Helen Deja 22 > > > > Expanding on what John wrote, it looks like Martha married someone named > > > > Frank Hegna. > > > > > > John wrote: > > > Sandy- > > > > > > As Ellen stated, the 1890 Census is extremely limited. Another option, > > if > > > you belong to a library, is to order the 1895 and 1905 Wisconsin State > > > > > Census for Milwaukee County on microfilm, and manually search for your > > > folks. If a library isn't readily available to you, you can order the > > same > > > film through a local Family History Center. There is a rental charge > > for > > > ordering through the FHC. If you are in Wisconsin, or better yet, the > > > greater Milwaukee area, these films may already be available for free > > > viewing. > > > > > > It looks like Martha married on Sep 16, 1896 in Milwaukee. That > > explains > > > her. Then there's a marriage for a Frank Deja on Nov 26, 1900 in > > Manitowoc > > > County and one for a Frank Deja on Sep 10, 1899 in Portage County. If > > either > > > one is your Franz, that would explain his whereabouts for the 1900 > > census. > > > By ordering Martha's marriage cert, you may get more answers and other > > > variations of the surname DEJA. > > > > > > John in Racine WI > > > > > > Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:04:35 -0600 > > > > > >> From: "Ellen- (Milwaukee)" <milwaukee@linkstothepast.com> > > >> Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] census-Deja 1890? > > >> To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com > > >> Message-ID: <200701022204350093.0107B6DD@mail2.onyourmark.com> > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > >> > > >> There is not an 1890 Census for much of the country. > > >> > > >> Here is an article on why. > > >> > > >> http://linkstothepast.com/milwaukee/1890cens.html > > >> > > >> Ellen- > > >> > > >> > > >> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > >> > > >> On 1/2/2007 at 9:58 PM sandisgifts70665@peoplepc.com wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>> Is there not a 1890 census for Milw. Wi,? > > >>> Mt gr. grand parents are on the NY pass. list as arriving 4/12/1881. > > >>> with children Franz age 4 b. abt. 1877 poland Germany > > >>> Martha Deja age 11 months b. abt. 1880 poland Germany > > >>> > > >>> I have Michael & Anastasia on 1900 census in Milw Wi. > > >>> but Franz & Martha must have been moved out by that time, as they > > are not > > >>> on it. > > >>> Is there any way to find out where they went? > > >>> Thank you for any help I can get on this. Sandy > > >
David, just was glancing through my genealogy lists mailings when I saw your query. Just a thought, but have you searched the "findagrave.com" sight? The veterans office has listed all the deaths of veterans on this site. I found my two great uncles who had served in WW1 on them when all else had failed including letters to the armed services branches. Good luck! Diane JJones0001@aol.com wrote: Hi David: I looked in the census for 1930 in Menasha, Winnebago County, Wisconsin and I found your John R. Homan as follows: Homan, Adolph - head age 59 - b. Wisconsin (Father b. Germany, Mother b. Germany - Occupation Machinest, working in Machine Shop Homan, Louise, age 42, b. Wisconsin (Father b. Wi. Mother b. Wi. Occ. keeping house Homan, John, age 10, b. Wi. Homan, Marion, age 7, b. Wi. Mills, Nannie, age 53 b. Indiana, Lodger, F. Virginia, M. Indiana, Occ. Housekeeper I Also found this Military Record that might help you: World War II and Korean Conflict Veterans Interred Overseas Name: John R. Homan Inducted from: Wisconsin Rank: Second Lieutenant Combat: 427th Bomber Squadron 303rd Bomber Death date: 19 Aug 1943 Monument: The Netherlands Last Known Status: Missing U. S. AWARDS: Purple Heart Medal Air Medal David, hope this helps you out, if I can look anything else up for you please let me know. Sincerely, June of California ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
If anyone out there goes to the Hales Corner FHC., I would be forever greatful if you could look up in the 1895 & 1905 Wisconsin State Census for Milw. Co. for the names Michael & Anastasia Deja Franz -son- age 4 Martha-daughter-age 11 months Deja has also been spelled as Dea. Thank you in advance. I want to thank everyone on this list that has been so nice in helping me on my family search. God Bless You all.. Sandy
Dianne- The Milwaukee Public Library Humanities Department has always been very helpful to me when trying to determine the address conversions. You can contact them either by phone at: (414) 286-3061 or via e-mail at: http://www.questionpoint.org/crs/servlet/org.oclc.home.TFSRedirect?virtcategory=11648. The following link will explain what the library offers for the genealogy seeker: http://www.mpl.org/file/hum_genealogy.htm . If you need someone with access, I am a card holder of the Milwaukee Public Library and would be willing to help. Good Luck & SISU! John in Racine WI Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:07:26 -0800 > From: Dianne Larson Ward <dianne710@comcast.net> > Subject: [WIMILWAU] List owner and a real question > To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <45C55BFE.4020003@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Does anyone have easy access to whatever the source is that has the > Milwaukee address changes over the years? I know some streets have > changed. That's easy to find...it's the house numbers that are driving > me nuts. > > > Thank you.........dianne
Hi everyone & Happy New Year I to am looking for ROSA SCHULZ b. 1840 (maybe in Germany) d. Jan. 1916 Wi. m. August Breitenbach. Looking for parents or sibling's. They had these Children: Pauline b. 1868 Anna b.1871 Paul b. 1874 Joseph b. 1877 George b. 1879 All stayed in Wisconsin except for Joseph. He could have moved to another state. Thank you all, June of California
Thank you and Happy New Year! Maxine -----Original Message----- >From: Cheryl Barnett <clbarnett_99@yahoo.com> >Sent: Jan 3, 2007 7:12 PM >To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] List owner > >Hi all, >Since many people seem to assume that nothing has been said to anyone >on the list, it has been. Use the delete key liberally and remember, >treat others as you would like to be treated. I think we can all get >back to genealogy and leave the nitpicking behind us. > >Thanks! >Cheryl >(List-Admin) >P.S. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained >by stupidity - Robert J. Hanlon > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dianne, I have never found an online source for the street changes. They are actually published in a rather large (size of paper) booklet of many pages. I have been wondering if there is a copyright on the booklet or not (not sure how to find out). If there wasn't, then it might be worth it to put this all into an online database. Doesn't anybody know about copyright law on such things? The booklet gives all the changes, house number by house number. mrf Dianne Larson Ward wrote: > Does anyone have easy access to whatever the source is that has the > Milwaukee address changes over the years? I know some streets have > changed. That's easy to find...it's the house numbers that are driving > me nuts. > > Cheryl, I love your tag line! > > Thank you.........dianne > > >
Cheryl, Thank you for responding. It's good to know someone is really out there. As for your suggestion that we use the "delete" button, may I respectfully remind you that the list has many members who really have to be DIGEST mode? We can filter out individual e-mails (which I set up months ago) but we can't filter unwanted trash from the Digest. The delete button does no good for us. Thank you for whatever action you have taken. There are so many really thoughtful and kind people on this list! It's always been my favorite of the many I receive. Does anyone have easy access to whatever the source is that has the Milwaukee address changes over the years? I know some streets have changed. That's easy to find...it's the house numbers that are driving me nuts. Cheryl, I love your tag line! Thank you.........dianne >Message: 10 >Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:12:16 -0800 (PST) >From: Cheryl Barnett <clbarnett_99@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] List owner >To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <202406.72378.qm@web60418.mail.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >Hi all, >Since many people seem to assume that nothing has been said to anyone >on the list, it has been. Use the delete key liberally and remember, >treat others as you would like to be treated. I think we can all get >back to genealogy and leave the nitpicking behind us. > >Thanks! >Cheryl >(List-Admin) >P.S. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained >by stupidity - Robert J. Hanlon > > -- Begin doing what you want to do now. We are not living in eternity. We have only this moment, sparkling like a star in our hand and melting like a snowflake. Marie Beyon Ray
Do ANY of these people seem familiar to ANYONE??? I'd like to have some contact with descendants!!! 11-13-1916 listed in a Property Deed from Albert Weile (Albert Weile, widower – Julie Kothrade(nee Schulz) – Augusta Lonergan, formerly Augusta Keating(nee Schulz) to Bernard Polzin. Weile is also sometimes spelled Wiele
I found them under Micheal & Rose DEGA in 1900 & 1910. Nothing in 1920. John in Racine Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 14:01:37 -0600 > From: "Mary R. Frank" <mrfrank@uwm.edu> > Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] census-Deja 1890? > To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <459C0BA1.20803@uwm.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Sandy, where did you find them in the 1900 census (under what > spelling)? I saw a Michael and Anna Deja on Ancestry for 1910 and 1920, > but not for 1900. I assume these are not your Michael and Anastasia? > > 1910: > Michael Deja 58 > Anna Deja 55 > Laudislava Deja 21 > Bernard Deja 18 > Helen Deja 13 > > And again in 1920: > Michail Deja 68 > Anna Deja 64 > Helen Deja 22 > > Expanding on what John wrote, it looks like Martha married someone named > Frank Hegna. > > > John wrote: > > Sandy- > > > > As Ellen stated, the 1890 Census is extremely limited. Another option, > if > > you belong to a library, is to order the 1895 and 1905 Wisconsin State > > Census for Milwaukee County on microfilm, and manually search for your > > folks. If a library isn't readily available to you, you can order the > same > > film through a local Family History Center. There is a rental charge for > > ordering through the FHC. If you are in Wisconsin, or better yet, the > > greater Milwaukee area, these films may already be available for free > > viewing. > > > > It looks like Martha married on Sep 16, 1896 in Milwaukee. That explains > > her. Then there's a marriage for a Frank Deja on Nov 26, 1900 in > Manitowoc > > County and one for a Frank Deja on Sep 10, 1899 in Portage County. If > either > > one is your Franz, that would explain his whereabouts for the 1900 > census. > > By ordering Martha's marriage cert, you may get more answers and other > > variations of the surname DEJA. > > > > John in Racine WI > > > > Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:04:35 -0600 > > > >> From: "Ellen- (Milwaukee)" <milwaukee@linkstothepast.com> > >> Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] census-Deja 1890? > >> To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com > >> Message-ID: <200701022204350093.0107B6DD@mail2.onyourmark.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> > >> There is not an 1890 Census for much of the country. > >> > >> Here is an article on why. > >> > >> http://linkstothepast.com/milwaukee/1890cens.html > >> > >> Ellen- > >> > >> > >> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >> > >> On 1/2/2007 at 9:58 PM sandisgifts70665@peoplepc.com wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Is there not a 1890 census for Milw. Wi,? > >>> Mt gr. grand parents are on the NY pass. list as arriving 4/12/1881. > >>> with children Franz age 4 b. abt. 1877 poland Germany > >>> Martha Deja age 11 months b. abt. 1880 poland Germany > >>> > >>> I have Michael & Anastasia on 1900 census in Milw Wi. > >>> but Franz & Martha must have been moved out by that time, as they are > not > >>> on it. > >>> Is there any way to find out where they went? > >>> Thank you for any help I can get on this. Sandy
I very seldom reply to this list--though I faithfully read and contribute off site, I have to remark on these comments of late--I don't care about your personal difficulties with other site members. PLEASE STOP. Let's keep this professional. I love family history and think the bickering and insults are silly. ----- Original Message ----- From: <wimilwau-request@rootsweb.com> To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:01 AM Subject: WIMILWAU Digest, Vol 2, Issue 2 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Milwaukee orphanages since 1848 (Mary R. Frank) > 2. Wisconsin vital records must be updated - article in today's > Milwaukee J-S (Mary R. Frank) > 3. Mary's complaints, unwisely sent on-list (JQMagie@aol.com) > 4. Re: Mary's complaints, unwisely sent on-list (Drhomanjr@aol.com) > 5. Re: Wisconsin vital records must be updated - article in > today's M... (GipCWoman@aol.com) > 6. census-Deja 1890? (sandisgifts70665@peoplepc.com) > 7. Re: census-Deja 1890? (Ellen- (Milwaukee)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 08:54:43 -0600 > From: "Mary R. Frank" <mrfrank@uwm.edu> > Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] Milwaukee orphanages since 1848 > To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <459A7233.1020102@uwm.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > John, while I'm appreciative of the information you share, the > editorializing about people's motives is unfair. Not only was this a > holiday period (many of us being offline), but also, many of us don't > have (or are unaware of having) orphans in our tree. Furthermore, why > do you so often think that every time someone doesn't answer a question > that it's because they are uninterested or somehow negligent? How can > we answer a question we know nothing about? Hunh? Who is it that you > think is refusing to give away all this information, anyway? I don't > know about other people on this list, but I'm here to share, when I can, > and to learn when I don't know something. There's no big genealogy guru > out here, that I know of, who can just magically answer people's > questions. It takes research, and research takes time. Some of us have > more time than others, or more opportunity to share (living in > Milwaukee, I count myself blessed to have the chance to look things up > for myself and others, time permitting). Impugning people's motives is > tediously unhelpful and makes what used to be a very friendly list a > difficult place to be. > > By the way, I did copy a list of the orphanages listed in the 1910 > Wright's directory, and have emailed Ken that I'd be happy to send him a > copy of the 2-page list. If anyone else wants a copy, they can contact > me off the list. > > mrf > > > JQMagie@aol.com wrote: > > Here on the WiMilwau list apparently the only way to successfully deliver a > > message is to just keep repeating it. So below is a duplicate of some > > Milwaukee orphanage info I posted over a year ago (in turn, a repeat of much older > > posted info from me.) > > > > St. Aemillian-Lakeside, Inc. (http://www.st-al.org/history.htm) at 8901 W. > > Capitol Drive in Milwaukee has told me that almost all records on Milwaukee > > orphans since the 1840s is at their campus and/or the adjoining St. Rose > > campus. I'm unclear on their policies on sharing this info. But why so few > > WiMilwau listers apparently seem interested in all this remains a mystery to me > > .................John (in metro Chicago) > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Milwaukee orphanages since 1848 > > Date: 12/8/2005 4:15:08 A.M. Central Standard Time > > From: JQMagie@aol.com > > To: JanThatcher@charter.net, WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Many thanks for your note below, Janet. Actually I've been somewhat > > surprised that, as far as I know, no one else has expressed any interest in my > > WiMilwau posting of Dec. 2 on Milwaukee orphanages, plus my follow-up posting of > > Dec. 5. > > > > In an old scrapbook begun in the late 1840s by my Milwaukee > > great-great-grandmother Sarah Ann Eldred (nee Higby), 1802-1879, there are many ancient > > Milwaukee newspaper clippings on her helping organize the Milwaukee Protestant > > Orphan Asylum in 1849 and on the subsequent substantial volunteer involvement in > > that institution by both her and her children. Sarah and her husband, > > Elisha Eldred, 1796-1860, a leading early Milwaukee real estate and railroad > > developer, had moved to Milwaukee in 1842 from the Cooperstown, NY, area. > > > > I TOO became curious about what had happened to the above orphanage, plus > > St. Aemillian and St. Rose (both originally Roman Catholic), and I was > > surprised to find that all three continue to exist OVER 150 YEARS LATER-- even though > > their mission today is essentially no longer the custodial care of orphans > > (now mostly in foster homes). St. Aemillian was actually located south of > > Milwaukee (in St. Francis, WI) from 1854 to 1930-- and presumably several other > > Milwaukee County localities had separate orphan homes. > > > > I suggest you first check out the helpful website of St. Aemillian-Lakeside > > (http://www.st-al.org), including the list of staff, and then call them at > > 800-840-1880 or 414-463-1880. I haven't yet visited their main campus at 8901 > > West Capitol Drive in Milwaukee, and I just noticed that they maintain branch > > facilities at Racine, Waukesha, West Bend, and Sheboygan-- all outside of > > Milwaukee County ......John > > __________________________________________________ > > > > -----Original message----- > > On 12/7/05, at 11:26:49 PM CST, JanThatcher@charter.net writes > > > > I noticed the following posting on the Milwaukee Rootsweb list. > > > > .....Your post was incredibly important to me because I did not know what > > happened to this institution. It looks like it was renamed Lakeside Children's > > Center in 1943 and then merged with St. Aemilian-Lakeside. > > > > Do you have any idea how I would I go about seeing if there are any records > > for my ancestors that have been kept by the surviving institution of St. > > Aemilian-Lakeside? > > > > Janet in California > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WiMilwau] Milwaukee orphanages since 1848 > > Date: 12/5/2005 2:59:45 A.M. Central Standard Time > > From: JQMagie@aol.com > > To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > > > > St. Aemilian-Lakeside, Inc. > > > > There are probably many people who know more about all this than I do, but I > > feel confident that almost all Milwaukee area BOYS in orphanages since > > the late 1840s were tied to what is now known as St. Aemilian-Lakeside-- a > > 1989 merger of two large institutions, one Catholic and one Protestant. > > > > Also, my guess is that most Milwaukee area GIRLS in orphanages since 1848 > > were tied to what is now St. Rose Youth & Family Center-- now an > > independent, > > nonsectarian, nonprofit organization that was formerly tied to the Milwaukee > > Catholic Archdiocese and known in the 19th century as St Rose Orphan > > Asylum. > > But maybe there have been other Milwaukee female orphanages over the years, > > including possibly St. Vincent. > > > > St. Rose Youth & Family Center, Inc. > > > > http://www.strosecenter.org > > 3801 N. 88th St., Milwaukee, WI 53222 > > Phone: (414) 466-9450 > > > > I just checked a map and see that both St. Aemilian-Lakeside and St. Rose > > now adjoin each other (with the same zip code) on a single large campus > > southwest of Capitol Drive and 88th Street, Milwaukee. > > > > In the 1890s and for many years thereafter, St. Rose was located at the NW > > corner of North and Lake Drive, just east the Milwaukee Protestant Orphan > > Asylum (renamed Lakeside Children's Center in 1943). Meanwhile, from > > 1854-1930, > > St. Aemillian was located South of Milwaukee on the big extant lakeside > > campus of St. Francis Seminary ......John > > > > > > > > > > > > Subj: Milwaukee orphanages since 1849 > > Date: 12/2/2005 7:27:35 A.M. CST > > From: JQMagie > > To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > > > > I've been meaning to reiterate the following. St. Aemilian-Lakeside, Inc, > > of Milwaukee, to which my Eldred and Magie ancestors supported, especially > > in > > its early years, in extensive volunteer labor and substantial financial > > assistance, apparently remains an incredibly important repository of > > Milwaukee > > orphanage records since 1849. > > > > http://www.st-al.org > > > > St. Aemilian-Lakeside, Inc. > > 8901 West Capitol Drive, Milwaukee, WI 53222 > > (414) 463-1880 or (800) 840-1880 > > (414) 463-2770 fax > > > > The Milwaukee Protestant Orphan Asylum that my family helped organize in > > 1849 was formerly in a large 1887 building at the NE corner of Prospect and > > North avenues in Milwaukee. In 1943, as foster care became more important, > > it > > was renamed "Lakeside Children's Center." St. Aemilian's Orphan Asylum had > > been founded by Milwaukee's Roman Catholic Archdiocese in 1850. And the > > two > > large and ancient institutions formally merged on January 1, 1989, as ST. > > AEMILIAN-LAKESIDE, INC-- a private, not-for-profit, non-sectarian, > > residential > > treatment center for boys. I'm not clear on this-- but I think that, while > > the > > emphasis over the years at both institutions has been on boys, this may no > > longer be true. > > > > > > > > > > Subj: Re: [WIMILWAU] Help > > Date: 12/30/2006 5:31:16 P.M. Central Standard Time > > From: milwaukee@linkstothepast.com > > To: wimilwau@rootsweb. > > > > ......I have a list of orphanages on my site. It is an early list, some of > > them were still in existence in 1910, but I don't have a current list to help > > you for the 1910 time period. > > http://linkstothepast.com/milwaukee/mkebenev.html > > > > Good Luck in your search. > > Ellen- > > > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > > > On 12/30/2006 at 5:21 PM K Wilhelm wrote: > > > > > >> Ellen > >> > >> I greatly appreciate your interest and help, however, the father John died > >> in August of 1910 and the boys, my father Fred and Uncle Roland were later > >> sent to an orphanage. I am trying to trace them to an orphanage since they > >> fall off the radar screen until my father joins the Navy around 1919. Am > >> trying to fill that gap. > >> > >> Thanks again and have a Happy and Healthy New Year. > >> > >> Ken in NC ......... > >> > >> > >>> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >>> > >>> On 12/26/2006 at 8:39 AM K Wilhelm wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> I am looking for a list of orphanages that were operating in Milwaukee in > >>>> the 1910 period. My father, Frederick Wilhelm, and his younger brother > >>>> Roland, ages 10 and 7 were sent to an orphanage after their fathers' > >>>> death in May of 1910. As the story goes their stay was as brief as > >>>> possible since they were not happy there and they ran away. > >>>> > >>>> I have searched census records to no avail, perhaps the count was > >>>> completed before their attendance, and am certain they were gone > >>>> before the next census. > >>>> Any help would be gratefully appreciated. > >>>> > >>>> Ken Wilhelm > >>>> Pinehurst, NC > >>>> > > ____________________________________________________________________________ _ > > > > (PS from JQM to Ken: sadly my older brother Peter M. Magie of 490 Central > > Dr., Southern Pines, NC 28387, died of cancer on 9/23/2002 in adjoining > > Pinehurst, NC) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:27:36 -0600 > From: "Mary R. Frank" <mrfrank@uwm.edu> > Subject: [WIMILWAU] Wisconsin vital records must be updated - article > in today's Milwaukee J-S > To: Milwaukee Genealogy List <WIMILWAU@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <459ACE48.108@uwm.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > U.S. leaves Wisconsin with cradle, grave costs > > > State required to update old birth and death records > > > http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=547975 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 17:13:09 EST > From: JQMagie@aol.com > Subject: [WIMILWAU] Mary's complaints, unwisely sent on-list > To: mrfrank@uwm.edu, wimilwau@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cb1.7aff8f5.32cc32f5@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > Mary-- I feel you have, very intelligently & clearly, added a lot of value > to this WiMilwau list over the past few years. But I also feel that your > personal attack on me today (below) is VERY out of place as an ON-LIST WiMilwau > post. You might have decided today to add some harmony to the WiMilwau list, > instead of going in your own very different direction. > > I view much (but not all) of what you say below as goofy, unreasonable, and > unfair (as I will explain later off-list). But, more importantly, I think > you would have been wise, as well as much more courteous, had your complaints > been sent (at least initially) to me privately-- i.e., OFF-LIST. > > You say nothing below, positive or negative, about the SUBSTANCE of my > somewhat long-winded 12/31/06 "Milwaukee orphanages since 1848" post. Instead of > criticizing the MESSAGE (which might well have been helpful), you have > disagreeably decided to complain vigorously about the MESSENGER (i.e., me). > > I have no idea whose or what motives you feel I've been "impugning." But > perhaps, Mary, you feel that in my 12/31/06 post, I was somehow criticizing > YOU. So let me assure you that was not my intention whatsoever. Yet I do wish > that those that are voluntarily or officially in charge of websites that > provide Milwaukee County genealogical resources would be more willing to accept > updated info-- while I'm mindful that we are all providing volunteer labor, > which has its own slow pace. > > While I remain busy with ongoing holiday activities and out-of-town > visitors, I do intend, Mary, to respond to your unfair attacks below in more detail, > WHEN time permits. But I do not plan to dignify them with any more on-list > discussion. My response will be OFF-LIST, even though this is a courtesy you > didn't extend to me today. And hopefully I'll see no more posts about all > this from you until you at least get my private response. > > Mary, etc.-- let's try to lighten up a bit, turn off the anger (and hurt?) > for at least a few minutes, and at least pretend that the holiday season > hasn't ended. > > I've been contributing to the WiMilwau RootsWeb off and on (mostly the > latter) for some six years-- far longer than you, I suspect. And I've always felt > I had very good relations with other listers, until a few months ago--when > some guy mysteriously and disagreeably started complaining, frequently when I > posted something new, "what does that have to do with genealogy." Finally I > sent him an annoyed OFF-LIST note to him, which then resulted in more ON-LIST > abuse from him-- and possibly your complaint below as well. I really feel > sad and mystified why this guy seems so mad at me. And your moral support in > this matter would have been nice-- but was clearly missing. > > I'm an occasionally grumpy Senior Citizen who's been working on and off on > genealogy for over forty years, along with other family members. We have over > 10,000 people in our database, and there are very few mysteries left > relating to my family and cousins over the past few hundred years (including > Milwaukee relatives going back to the mid-1830s). > > Thus my involvement in this WiMilwau list stems almost entirely from my > desire to post general genealogy ideas and help less experienced genealogists in > their own research (as time permits). > > Maybe I've stepped on a few toes in doing the above, although I'm not clear > how. But, if so, I certainly apologize. > > I feel that four or five years ago people on this seem to have had much more > fun-- and also were more "Renaissance" in their approach to history and > other interests. So I feel sad that some people on the current WiMilwau list > seem to have so little sense of humor. Yes, my impression is that too many > WiMilwau listers take themselves far too seriously .............John (in > metro Chicago) > > ____________________________________________________________________________ __ > ___ > > > > Subj: Re: [WIMILWAU] Milwaukee orphanages since 1848 > Date: 1/2/2007 8:55:59 A.M. Central Standard Time > From: mrfrank@uwm.edu > Reply-to: wimilwau@rootsweb.com > To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com > > John, while I'm appreciative of the information you share, the > editorializing about people's motives is unfair. Not only was this a > holiday period (many of us being offline), but also, many of us don't > have (or are unaware of having) orphans in our tree. Furthermore, why > do you so often think that every time someone doesn't answer a question > that it's because they are uninterested or somehow negligent? How can > we answer a question we know nothing about? Hunh? Who is it that you > think is refusing to give away all this information, anyway? I don't > know about other people on this list, but I'm here to share, when I can, > and to learn when I don't know something. There's no big genealogy guru > out here, that I know of, who can just magically answer people's > questions. It takes research, and research takes time. Some of us have > more time than others, or more opportunity to share (living in > Milwaukee, I count myself blessed to have the chance to look things up > for myself and others, time permitting). Impugning people's motives is > tediously unhelpful and makes what used to be a very friendly list a > difficult place to be. > > By the way, I did copy a list of the orphanages listed in the 1910 > Wright's directory, and have emailed Ken that I'd be happy to send him a > copy of the 2-page list. If anyone else wants a copy, they can contact > me off the list. > > mrf > ____________________________________________________________________________ __ > ___ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:43:12 EST > From: Drhomanjr@aol.com > Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] Mary's complaints, unwisely sent on-list > To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <417.1269e298.32cc4810@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > I always did love a good cat fight! Get er done girls! > > ;>) > > Me > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:43:46 EST > From: GipCWoman@aol.com > Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] Wisconsin vital records must be updated - > article in today's M... > To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <bbb.b2b4292.32cc5642@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Thank you for sharing this.... > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:58:28 -0600 > From: <sandisgifts70665@peoplepc.com> > Subject: [WIMILWAU] census-Deja 1890? > To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001001c72eeb$6ecb7bd0$229894ce@yourc8bh3jaglt> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Is there not a 1890 census for Milw. Wi,? > Mt gr. grand parents are on the NY pass. list as arriving 4/12/1881. > with children Franz age 4 b. abt. 1877 poland Germany > Martha Deja age 11 months b. abt. 1880 poland Germany > > I have Michael & Anastasia on 1900 census in Milw Wi. > but Franz & Martha must have been moved out by that time, as they are not on it. > Is there any way to find out where they went? > Thank you for any help I can get on this. Sandy > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:04:35 -0600 > From: "Ellen- (Milwaukee)" <milwaukee@linkstothepast.com> > Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] census-Deja 1890? > To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <200701022204350093.0107B6DD@mail2.onyourmark.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > There is not an 1890 Census for much of the country. > > Here is an article on why. > > http://linkstothepast.com/milwaukee/1890cens.html > > Ellen- > > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 1/2/2007 at 9:58 PM sandisgifts70665@peoplepc.com wrote: > > >Is there not a 1890 census for Milw. Wi,? > >Mt gr. grand parents are on the NY pass. list as arriving 4/12/1881. > >with children Franz age 4 b. abt. 1877 poland Germany > >Martha Deja age 11 months b. abt. 1880 poland Germany > > > >I have Michael & Anastasia on 1900 census in Milw Wi. > >but Franz & Martha must have been moved out by that time, as they are not > >on it. > >Is there any way to find out where they went? > >Thank you for any help I can get on this. Sandy > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WIMILWAU list administrator, send an email to > WIMILWAU-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WIMILWAU mailing list, send an email to WIMILWAU@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WIMILWAU Digest, Vol 2, Issue 2 > ************************************** >
I believe Waukesha County has already digitized their vital records. You can go to the computer and type in a name and it brings up the actual certificate. To save money why couldn't the have the people that are unemployed key in all t he information. Might save the taxpayers some money.
Why is one mentally ill sadist consistantly allowed to bully an entire Rootsweb list? No amount of shared information is worth reading the constant abuse! _ _ What sunshine is to flowers, smiles are to humanity. These are but trifles, to be sure; but, scattered along life's pathway, the good they do is inconceivable." - Joseph Addison (1672-1719)
Hi Mary, Yes, my Schulz's were from Milwaukee, but it was my ex-husband's name and not in my area of research. His father's name was Arthur, and that's about all I know (his grandfather was called "Big Daddy," and that's no help). I wish you luck with this line--in Milwaukee Schulz is about the same as looking for a Smith. Blanche mrfrank@uwm.edu wrote: > >Just wondering if your Schulz name is connected to Milwaukee. . > ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Hi all, Since many people seem to assume that nothing has been said to anyone on the list, it has been. Use the delete key liberally and remember, treat others as you would like to be treated. I think we can all get back to genealogy and leave the nitpicking behind us. Thanks! Cheryl (List-Admin) P.S. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity - Robert J. Hanlon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
have emailed the list owner before and never have gotten a response from him/her maybe everyone that wants to email the owner needs to do so at this email address WIMILWAU-admin@rootsweb.com.