I must be old, I remember two deliveries M-F and one on Saturday, also penny postcards. Ken in Nc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary R. Frank" <mrfrank@uwm.edu> To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] mail > Yes, and I remember when we didn't even seal all those cards we sent--we > just turned the flaps in on the envelopes. I still remember walking > them up to the corner mailbox for my mom. Yes, and having the cards > taped all over the French doors to our living room--it really made us > kids anticipate Christmas. > > JaneKenW@aol.com wrote: >> I grew up in Waukegan, IL and lived there for 21 years. I only remember >> one >> mail delivery a day except at Christmas time, when the Post Office would >> hire >> a lot of extra postmen, and we would have several mail deliveries a day. >> What >> a fun time waiting for the mailman to bring lots of Christmas cards. >> Jane >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Maybe the "X"s meant that she had tried the receipe. I've done that when I'm working my way through a cookbook. Ann in MI -----Original Message----- From: mrfrank@uwm.edu To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] family reccipes That is a funny story! I've heard of people who were so protective of recipes, but my people weren't that way, fortunately. What a mystery for you to solve! My Gramps (mom's dad) was a Greek, and like many Greeks, he was a cook/chef. That is how that part of my family ended up in Wisconsin (Racine). My mom was born in Chicago in 1927, and moved with her parents to Racine in 1930 when Gramps went to work as the chef/chief cook at the Racine Military Academy. The school closed in 1933, but Gramps stayed in Racine where he had a house with a tavern attached. That is what kept them going throughout the Depression. I remember Gramps making pies for us whenever we went to visit (they moved to FL in 1960). Chocolate and lemon meringue were my favorites, though he made others as well. I don't remember him cooking much else, other than the occasional Greek dish. My poor Granny (and her mother, "Nana") did the cooking. Granny was always teased about her cooking, because she tended to overcook things and did not enjoy cooking (but made a great tossed salad!). My mother was a fantastic cook, and especially a baker, but she claimed to have learned to do all that to please my German dad and his German Milwaukee-born parents. My mom took pride in telling me that my Grandma Frank thought my mom was a great baker, which was a great compliment since Grandma Frank was also a very good baker (mmm those molasses cookies she made!). Those Germans liked their sweets (I still have too much of a sweet-tooth, even though I don't eat sugar per se, I sure like to use alternative sweeteners to make muffins, cookies, etc. And I love the breads!). I had a cookbook sent to me from my Agney cousin (Nana's maiden name was Agney). I gave a copy to my mom and found it among her cookbooks when she passed. I wasn't sure if she had looked at it, but when I paged through it, I found all these big X's next to recipes, as well as notes on some of the pages. I don't know what the X's mean. I just gave it to her a few years ago, so I don't know if she had time to try many of the recipes or not. Wish I knew what the X's meant. mrf Ellen- (Milwaukee) wrote: > I have all my grandmother's cookbooks. She was a little odd at times and was afraid everyone was out to steal things from her. Recipes were something she would never give up. She would often give part of the recipe but leave one ingredient out. > > In looking through her cookbooks, I found written in the margin next to a totally different recipe, the missing ingredient for this that or the other recipe. I am still trying to piece them all together and she passed over 20 years ago. > > Don't dismiss the handwriting in the margins. You never know when it will be important! > > Ellen- > >> > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Thank you. We both must be old. When you didn't seal an envelope, it was cheaper. Don't know why?? At 04:03 PM 1/24/07, you wrote: >I must be old, I remember two deliveries M-F and one on Saturday, also penny >postcards. > >Ken in Nc >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mary R. Frank" <mrfrank@uwm.edu> >To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:27 PM >Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] mail > > > > Yes, and I remember when we didn't even seal all those cards we sent--we > > just turned the flaps in on the envelopes. I still remember walking > > them up to the corner mailbox for my mom. Yes, and having the cards > > taped all over the French doors to our living room--it really made us > > kids anticipate Christmas. > > > > JaneKenW@aol.com wrote: > >> I grew up in Waukegan, IL and lived there for 21 years. I only remember > >> one > >> mail delivery a day except at Christmas time, when the Post Office would > >> hire > >> a lot of extra postmen, and we would have several mail deliveries a day. > >> What > >> a fun time waiting for the mailman to bring lots of Christmas cards. > >> Jane > >> > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I grew up in Waukegan, IL and lived there for 21 years. I only remember one mail delivery a day except at Christmas time, when the Post Office would hire a lot of extra postmen, and we would have several mail deliveries a day. What a fun time waiting for the mailman to bring lots of Christmas cards. Jane

Yes, and I remember when we didn't even seal all those cards we sent--we just turned the flaps in on the envelopes. I still remember walking them up to the corner mailbox for my mom. Yes, and having the cards taped all over the French doors to our living room--it really made us kids anticipate Christmas. JaneKenW@aol.com wrote: > I grew up in Waukegan, IL and lived there for 21 years. I only remember one > mail delivery a day except at Christmas time, when the Post Office would hire > a lot of extra postmen, and we would have several mail deliveries a day. What > a fun time waiting for the mailman to bring lots of Christmas cards. > Jane > > >

I don't know how current the page is...but just in case you're interested : http://www.biblio.com/books/93031854.html -- Begin doing what you want to do now. We are not living in eternity. We have only this moment, sparkling like a star in our hand and melting like a snowflake. Marie Beyon Ray

Wow, that sounds like a neat book! I will definitely check into it next time I'm at the Central Library. I tend to go in the winter time, but haven't made a trip down there in about 8-9 months, at least. mrf JQMagie@aol.com wrote: > Those with a hankering for retro high-cholesterol midwestern cuisine might > want to look at the 380-page MILWAUKEE COOK BOOK, compiled in 1894 by my > great-grandmother Almira Jane MAGIE (nee Eldred). See the Milwaukee Central > Library catalog listing below. This volume was missing from the Central Library > for several years, but has happily been rediscovered recently. Included are > many recipes by Almira and many other members of Milwaukee's St. Paul's > Episcopal Church. Many of Almira's BEST comfort food recipes thankfully call for > large quantities of eggs & butter ..........John (in metro Chicago) > > __________________________________________________ > > http://countycat.mcfls.org/ > > MILWAUKEE COOK BOOK / > Mrs. J. MAGIE, compiler. [Milwaukee, Wis.] : s.n., 1894. > > ITEM LOC Call Number > Central Art Rarities 641.5 M658 Reference Use > > Description 380 p. : ill. ; 22 cm. > Subject Cookery. > Cookery -- Wisconsin. > Cookery for the sick. > Add author Magie, Almira Jane, 1834-1901. > __________________________________________________ > > > >

Those with a hankering for retro high-cholesterol midwestern cuisine might want to look at the 380-page MILWAUKEE COOK BOOK, compiled in 1894 by my great-grandmother Almira Jane MAGIE (nee Eldred). See the Milwaukee Central Library catalog listing below. This volume was missing from the Central Library for several years, but has happily been rediscovered recently. Included are many recipes by Almira and many other members of Milwaukee's St. Paul's Episcopal Church. Many of Almira's BEST comfort food recipes thankfully call for large quantities of eggs & butter ..........John (in metro Chicago) __________________________________________________ http://countycat.mcfls.org/ MILWAUKEE COOK BOOK / Mrs. J. MAGIE, compiler. [Milwaukee, Wis.] : s.n., 1894. ITEM LOC Call Number Central Art Rarities 641.5 M658 Reference Use Description 380 p. : ill. ; 22 cm. Subject Cookery. Cookery -- Wisconsin. Cookery for the sick. Add author Magie, Almira Jane, 1834-1901. __________________________________________________

I love to hear all those old stories especially about family recipes and what they liked to cook. My grandmother was born and raised in Milwaukee and when she married my grandfather, she brought cook books that her mother gave to her. As a child in the early '40's I would go to her house and she would have a big barrel in the kitchen and it would be full of her pastries that she had made. I can still see that today. Her cook books were passed down to my Mom and I have one of them. She also had big X's on the sides of some of the recipes too. I just figured it was one of her favorites. I do have recipes that are written in my mothers handwriting and have put them into a book. Along with that I had almost all my relatives that would take part write their favorite recipe and sign it and have put it into this book. Now the book is passed down to my daughter. I gave it to her on her wedding day. She enjoys this book so much and has had her in-laws fill up some more pages. I hope this will keep going forever and ever with children to come. Thank you for some great e-mails. June of California

That is a funny story! I've heard of people who were so protective of recipes, but my people weren't that way, fortunately. What a mystery for you to solve! My Gramps (mom's dad) was a Greek, and like many Greeks, he was a cook/chef. That is how that part of my family ended up in Wisconsin (Racine). My mom was born in Chicago in 1927, and moved with her parents to Racine in 1930 when Gramps went to work as the chef/chief cook at the Racine Military Academy. The school closed in 1933, but Gramps stayed in Racine where he had a house with a tavern attached. That is what kept them going throughout the Depression. I remember Gramps making pies for us whenever we went to visit (they moved to FL in 1960). Chocolate and lemon meringue were my favorites, though he made others as well. I don't remember him cooking much else, other than the occasional Greek dish. My poor Granny (and her mother, "Nana") did the cooking. Granny was always teased about her cooking, because she tended to overcook things and did not enjoy cooking (but made a great tossed salad!). My mother was a fantastic cook, and especially a baker, but she claimed to have learned to do all that to please my German dad and his German Milwaukee-born parents. My mom took pride in telling me that my Grandma Frank thought my mom was a great baker, which was a great compliment since Grandma Frank was also a very good baker (mmm those molasses cookies she made!). Those Germans liked their sweets (I still have too much of a sweet-tooth, even though I don't eat sugar per se, I sure like to use alternative sweeteners to make muffins, cookies, etc. And I love the breads!). I had a cookbook sent to me from my Agney cousin (Nana's maiden name was Agney). I gave a copy to my mom and found it among her cookbooks when she passed. I wasn't sure if she had looked at it, but when I paged through it, I found all these big X's next to recipes, as well as notes on some of the pages. I don't know what the X's mean. I just gave it to her a few years ago, so I don't know if she had time to try many of the recipes or not. Wish I knew what the X's meant. mrf Ellen- (Milwaukee) wrote: > I have all my grandmother's cookbooks. She was a little odd at times and was afraid everyone was out to steal things from her. Recipes were something she would never give up. She would often give part of the recipe but leave one ingredient out. > > In looking through her cookbooks, I found written in the margin next to a totally different recipe, the missing ingredient for this that or the other recipe. I am still trying to piece them all together and she passed over 20 years ago. > > Don't dismiss the handwriting in the margins. You never know when it will be important! > > Ellen- > >> > > > > >

I have all my grandmother's cookbooks. She was a little odd at times and was afraid everyone was out to steal things from her. Recipes were something she would never give up. She would often give part of the recipe but leave one ingredient out. In looking through her cookbooks, I found written in the margin next to a totally different recipe, the missing ingredient for this that or the other recipe. I am still trying to piece them all together and she passed over 20 years ago. Don't dismiss the handwriting in the margins. You never know when it will be important! Ellen- *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 1/24/2007 at 8:46 AM sandra_joy@sbcglobal.net wrote: >Several years ago, my cousin put together a family cookbook. It started >mostly as a means to get some of my grandmother's recipes written down. >My >cousin stood next to her and measured for my grandma's famous buns and the >recipe contains phrases like "smooth as a baby's tummy". > >We all submitted recipes, but it's great to have some of my grandmother's >now that she's gone. > >-Sandra > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Maxine Capezza" <mcapezza@earthlink.net> >To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:19 AM >Subject: [WIMILWAU] family reccipes > > >>I think a good thing to do with family recipes for those of us lucky >> enough to have any is to make a photo copy of it. This way you have >> your mom's hand writing and maybe her comments, etc. Then, if you >> want to type it up for yourself go ahead, but keep the original and >> copy it for those who follow. I really like keeping copies of my >> ancestors signatures when I can. I even found some in funeral home >> records. >> Maxine >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jane, in the beautiful north woods of Wisconsin That is a great story...especially that you made contact with a relative. It is really a blessing. I have postcards from the 1920's between Chicago and Milwaukee. The postal service must have been wonderful then because they would write a note in the morning to tell someone what time they would be arriving on the train later in the day. I think when I was a child, born 1944 in Milwaukee, we had morning mail and afternoon mail. Is that right?

Several years ago, my cousin put together a family cookbook. It started mostly as a means to get some of my grandmother's recipes written down. My cousin stood next to her and measured for my grandma's famous buns and the recipe contains phrases like "smooth as a baby's tummy". We all submitted recipes, but it's great to have some of my grandmother's now that she's gone. -Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maxine Capezza" <mcapezza@earthlink.net> To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:19 AM Subject: [WIMILWAU] family reccipes >I think a good thing to do with family recipes for those of us lucky > enough to have any is to make a photo copy of it. This way you have > your mom's hand writing and maybe her comments, etc. Then, if you > want to type it up for yourself go ahead, but keep the original and > copy it for those who follow. I really like keeping copies of my > ancestors signatures when I can. I even found some in funeral home > records. > Maxine > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dale, You are funny. Your second letter gave me a good laugh. Also, great find, the old letter..... M. At 04:53 PM 1/23/07, you wrote: >Did you ever wish you could undo an e-mail!!! WOW you would think I >never used spell check before!!!! I butchered the first draft so bad >I had to do it over.. Maybe I should re-read things before I push >the "send" button. I had to fix it up a little. It sounds "more >better" this way. Dale

Welcome to our list--it is a pretty informative place to be, compared to many lists I've been on. What you said about your dad's letters made me remember that I have two or three diaries from my mom. The earlier 1-2 are kind of boring, as she was forced, I mean encouraged, by her mom to keep them and they just say things like "went to school today, practiced my violin." However, the third diary is much more interesting as it is from my mom's 19th year (1946) and she talks about her many boyfriends. She always said she had a lot of boyfriends around that time, and I can tell from this diary that she wasn't making that up! I haven't finished reading it yet, because after I do that will be the last "unknown" thing about my mom that I will have to savor, since she passed away last March. One of the main boyfriends (my deceased dad being the other) actually was the first person to show up at my mom's visitation. mrf sandy mcclay wrote: > Hello! > > I am new to this list...my maternal great grandfather was born in Milwaukee, before they started keeping records. His name was Charles Reinhard, his father was a William Christian Reinhard (II) and his mother was Anna Marie Weidner. William Christian Reinhard (II) came over in 1841 from the Dukenom(?) of Nassau, Dilingburg Germany. . I have been researching my family tree since last October and by far this line has been the easiest to research, thanks to all of the great records and people in Milwaukee! What an adventure this has been! I am now searching for my great great great grandparents who came to Milwaukee from Germany in 1852. Their names were William Christian Reinhard and Maria Catharina Thomas. They came from Dillingburg also. > I enjoyed reading about the letters, my grandmother had kept almost every letter my Dad wrote during WWII and I now have them. I love reading them and seeing him in a whole different light. I also have his grandfather's letters from the Civil War! They are incredible! > I just know that I will be able to go even farther back once I know how to get the German records. I am sure I will learn that here! > > Sandy >

I think a good thing to do with family recipes for those of us lucky enough to have any is to make a photo copy of it. This way you have your mom's hand writing and maybe her comments, etc. Then, if you want to type it up for yourself go ahead, but keep the original and copy it for those who follow. I really like keeping copies of my ancestors signatures when I can. I even found some in funeral home records. Maxine

Hello! I am new to this list...my maternal great grandfather was born in Milwaukee, before they started keeping records. His name was Charles Reinhard, his father was a William Christian Reinhard (II) and his mother was Anna Marie Weidner. William Christian Reinhard (II) came over in 1841 from the Dukenom(?) of Nassau, Dilingburg Germany. . I have been researching my family tree since last October and by far this line has been the easiest to research, thanks to all of the great records and people in Milwaukee! What an adventure this has been! I am now searching for my great great great grandparents who came to Milwaukee from Germany in 1852. Their names were William Christian Reinhard and Maria Catharina Thomas. They came from Dillingburg also. I enjoyed reading about the letters, my grandmother had kept almost every letter my Dad wrote during WWII and I now have them. I love reading them and seeing him in a whole different light. I also have his grandfather's letters from the Civil War! They are incredible! I just know that I will be able to go even farther back once I know how to get the German records. I am sure I will learn that here! Sandy --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.

Did you ever wish you could undo an e-mail!!! WOW you would think I never used spell check before!!!! I butchered the first draft so bad I had to do it over.. Maybe I should re-read things before I push the "send" button. I had to fix it up a little. It sounds "more better" this way. Dale Talking about recipe books... While cleaning out mom's house we found an old recipe book and in between the pages were some hand written recipes on pieces of paper. After looking at the recipes further we discovered they were written on the back side of letters from my dad during WWII.. The recipes were in moms hand writing. An interesting find!! Always fishing for relatives, Dale Schmitz -------------- Original message -------------- From: d.schmitz@comcast.net Talking about recipe books... While cleaning out mom's house we found an old recipe book and in between the pager were some hand written recips on pieces of paper. The reverse side of the paper the recieps were on, were letters from my dad while he was in the army durning WWII.. An interesting find!! Always fishing for relivites, Dale Schmitz -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Mary R. Frank" <mrfrank@uwm.edu> > My maternal great-grandma had a strawberry cobbler recipe that was never > written down. One of these years I need to search for a strawberry > cobbler recipe, though I would have to modify it since I don't eat any > sugar, honey, etc. Not that this would have been a German recipe, but > your comments about the Settlement Cookbook reminded me of how important > recipes are in our memories. My mom kept all sorts of recipes in > self-stick books (yuk--I can't see the backs of some pages because they > are sealed down to the book). We have about 30 of these books. I have > started the process of copying them for all of us siblings. Of course, > my mom was just as apt to use recipes that had been printed in magazines > and books as she was to make ones that came from friends. I am copying > all the pages, but at first I was thinking the ones with her notes and > handwriting were the ones she used the most--until I found a magazine > clipping of a cookie recipe she made every year for decades. I think I > will have to make an index after the copying is done. I am a > vegetarian, though, so I won't be making any of those meat dishes, > German OR Greek... > > mrf > > > Maxine Capezza wrote: > > Mary > > Thank you so much. I am always looking for books about German > > immigrants and living conditions, etc. This is great. > > There is quite a historical cookbook originally called The Settlement > > Cookbook or maybe it was Settlement House. A group of women put it > > together for early immigrants and no one would publish it, so the > > husband of one of the women published it and I think it is still > > going. I have several editions and they are interesting to read even > > if we don't cook that way now. In the latest edition many of the > > recipes are updated, but the old ones are still printed in the > > book. Another aspect of our ancestors lives. Thanks again. > > Maxine > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, About a year before my 93 year old aunt died she gave me a shoebox full of letters from relatives in Germany. There were about 100 letters over 40 years and from 4 generations of relatives. The letters began in 1946, right after the end of World War II and ended in 1986. The early letters spoke quite openly about conditions in Germany and asked for help in getting food, clothing and other things they were not able to obtain. Fascinating letters and fill in some missing "gaps" in understanding that era. My parents and grandmother also received letters from them and I can remember sending boxes to them too. Unfortunately, my mother did not keep the letters. They are truly a treasure. I recently contacted the church in the German town where these relatives attended. They sent me several typed pages including my grandfather's birth record and genealogy back to the 1500s. I wrote again asking for the names of any living descendants and giving them permission to share my letters with them. The church responded with the name of a relative who is now 81 years old and one who wrote many of the letters to my aunt. I wrote her a long letter with pictures and an outline of how I fit into the family. I also sent her copies of the letters she and her husband had written to my aunt. She sent a Christmas card and said I would "receive a long letter in early January". I am eagerly awaiting her reply. I just had to share this story and this Milwaukee group is great! Jane In the beautiful northwoods of Wisconsin

Talking about recipe books... While cleaning out mom's house we found an old recipe book and in between the pager were some hand written recips on pieces of paper. The reverse side of the paper the recieps were on, were letters from my dad while he was in the army durning WWII.. An interesting find!! Always fishing for relivites, Dale Schmitz -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Mary R. Frank" <mrfrank@uwm.edu> > My maternal great-grandma had a strawberry cobbler recipe that was never > written down. One of these years I need to search for a strawberry > cobbler recipe, though I would have to modify it since I don't eat any > sugar, honey, etc. Not that this would have been a German recipe, but > your comments about the Settlement Cookbook reminded me of how important > recipes are in our memories. My mom kept all sorts of recipes in > self-stick books (yuk--I can't see the backs of some pages because they > are sealed down to the book). We have about 30 of these books. I have > started the process of copying them for all of us siblings. Of course, > my mom was just as apt to use recipes that had been printed in magazines > and books as she was to make ones that came from friends. I am copying > all the pages, but at first I was thinking the ones with her notes and > handwriting were the ones she used the most--until I found a magazine > clipping of a cookie recipe she made every year for decades. I think I > will have to make an index after the copying is done. I am a > vegetarian, though, so I won't be making any of those meat dishes, > German OR Greek... > > mrf > > > Maxine Capezza wrote: > > Mary > > Thank you so much. I am always looking for books about German > > immigrants and living conditions, etc. This is great. > > There is quite a historical cookbook originally called The Settlement > > Cookbook or maybe it was Settlement House. A group of women put it > > together for early immigrants and no one would publish it, so the > > husband of one of the women published it and I think it is still > > going. I have several editions and they are interesting to read even > > if we don't cook that way now. In the latest edition many of the > > recipes are updated, but the old ones are still printed in the > > book. Another aspect of our ancestors lives. Thanks again. > > Maxine > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message