What a relief to know I didn't hallucinate that it was in the middle of the street...lol It's wonderful to know he's still there. I know so much has changed...I'm going to check those links right now...Thanks so much to all who responded to my different memories.......dianne > > >Hi, > >The statue is of General von Steuben. He is on an island in the middle of >Sherman Blvd. I don't know why there is a statue in Milwaukee to him (other >than being a famous general during the Revolutionary War or maybe because he >was Prussian, a lot of Prussians in Milwaukee) but he's been there for as long >as I can remember. The Boulevard Inn is gone but the General is still >there!! :) > >I found this web page for him >(_http://www.bergencountyhistory.org/Pages/gnsteuben.html_ (http://www.bergencountyhistory.org/Pages/gnsteuben.html) ) and >there is a picture towards the bottom that looks a lot like the way I remember >his statue. > >Hope this helps! >Paula > >In a message dated 1/25/2007 10:18:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, >wimilwau-request@rootsweb.com writes: > >Question...I remember at least two huge statues...one (at least) was a >man on a horse. It was either in the middle of an intersection or on a >corner. Does anyone know what they were and where they were? >******************************************************************** > >I seem to remember a statue like that somewhere close to the Boulevard Inn >restaurant. I think it was somewhere around Washington Park??? or Vliet >St.?? > >Jean > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:16:56 EST >From: Sallia@aol.com >Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] Milwaukee memories >To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <be6.de299ef.32eab088@aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Gail, > Do you have any pictures from the Bay View Oracle of your aunt? If not, I >have several of the year books from 1938 - 1947 that have her photo in them. > > Sally >My Aunt taught at Bay View High School 1939-1978. >Does anyone on the list remember her? > >ALICE R. RILEY > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the WIMILWAU list administrator, send an email to >WIMILWAU-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the WIMILWAU mailing list, send an email to WIMILWAU@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of WIMILWAU Digest, Vol 2, Issue 30 >*************************************** > > > > -- Begin doing what you want to do now. We are not living in eternity. We have only this moment, sparkling like a star in our hand and melting like a snowflake. Marie Beyon Ray

Gail, Do you have any pictures from the Bay View Oracle of your aunt? If not, I have several of the year books from 1938 - 1947 that have her photo in them. Sally My Aunt taught at Bay View High School 1939-1978. Does anyone on the list remember her? ALICE R. RILEY

Hi, The statue is of General von Steuben. He is on an island in the middle of Sherman Blvd. I don't know why there is a statue in Milwaukee to him (other than being a famous general during the Revolutionary War or maybe because he was Prussian, a lot of Prussians in Milwaukee) but he's been there for as long as I can remember. The Boulevard Inn is gone but the General is still there!! :) I found this web page for him (_http://www.bergencountyhistory.org/Pages/gnsteuben.html_ (http://www.bergencountyhistory.org/Pages/gnsteuben.html) ) and there is a picture towards the bottom that looks a lot like the way I remember his statue. Hope this helps! Paula In a message dated 1/25/2007 10:18:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, wimilwau-request@rootsweb.com writes: Question...I remember at least two huge statues...one (at least) was a man on a horse. It was either in the middle of an intersection or on a corner. Does anyone know what they were and where they were? ******************************************************************** I seem to remember a statue like that somewhere close to the Boulevard Inn restaurant. I think it was somewhere around Washington Park??? or Vliet St.?? Jean

This was the saying when my Mom was born on 12th and Locust on the "North side" in 1924 to a mother from Pomerania, Germany and a father from Yorkshire, England. When I lived on the "South side" of Milwaukee in the 1970s and early 1980s, 'they' said "the 6th St. Viaduct was the longest bridge in the world!" - it connected Mexico and Africa. Not very politically correct even then! Gail in Appleton, WI <SNIP> > http://www.renewthevalley.org/projects/project.html?a=show&pid=3 > This article gives a history. I seem to remember 'they' used to say the > 6th St. Viaduct connected the Polish with the Germans:-) I was born > into the German culture and married a Polish guy. I grew up on the North > side of Milwaukee and moved to the South side after marriage so I guess > that's a true statement :-) > Jean

http://www.renewthevalley.org/projects/project.html?a=show&pid=3 This article gives a history. I seem to remember 'they' used to say the 6th St. Viaduct connected the Polish with the Germans:-) I was born into the German culture and married a Polish guy. I grew up on the North side of Milwaukee and moved to the South side after marriage so I guess that's a true statement :-) Jean

http://www.december.com/places/mke/album.html So many memories in these postcards. Take your pick.

Question...I remember at least two huge statues...one (at least) was a man on a horse. It was either in the middle of an intersection or on a corner. Does anyone know what they were and where they were? ******************************************************************** I seem to remember a statue like that somewhere close to the Boulevard Inn restaurant. I think it was somewhere around Washington Park??? or Vliet St.?? Jean

Dianne-- you may be referring below to two large extant statues/monuments in the middle of West Wisconsin Ave. at about 10th St.-- that is, just west of Milwaukee's Central Library. There is a very nice old post card view (perhaps 100 years old) of both monuments at---> http://collections.lib.uwm.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/gfmmke&CISOPTR=1 41&REC=7 Are these the monuments that you remembered? To the left is a tall column, perhaps a war monument, which many Milwaukee kids can probably identify. Then to the right is the Washington Monument designed (in the mid-1880s) by New York City sculptor Richard Hamilton Park (1832-1902) At least the latter was paid for fully by Lizzie Plankinton, heiress of meat packer John Plankinton (1820-1891). And this led to a sad (and somewhat famous) story, of which I have only a rough understanding. Lizzie thought she was set to marry Mr. Park, and her dad had a large stone mansion built for the newlyweds ca. 1887 at 1492 W. Wisconsin-- just to the southwest of a large Italianate house (at 1450 W. Wisconsin) built in 1858 for my great-great-grandfather, Elisha Eldred (1796-1860), a real estate developer. The Eldred house, razed about 1900, had been built on what was, in 1858, Eldred's 4 to 6 city block "rural" estate on the north side of Spring St.--later Grand Ave. and now W. Wisconsin Ave. Marquette U now occupies all this area. But to cut to the chase, soon after Lizzie's house was completed, Park reportedly deserted Lizzie for a Minneapolis dancer (others say he was also already married). Very distraught, Lizzie then rejected the 1492 W. Wisconsin mansion, which remained vacant for many years, though not razed (by Marquette U) until late October of 1980, despite much opposition by preservationists. In the old UVM postcard view I refer to above, the old extant Presbyterian & Episcopal churches are just to the left of the nice old streetcar. Today's I-43 mercifully swerves west to avoid these handsome churches More later on your interesting Milwaukee Cook Book (1894) info, when time permits .............John (in metro Chicago) _______________________________________________________ Subj: [WIMILWAU] Milwaukee memories Date: 1/25/2007 2:51:50 A.M. Central Standard Time From: dianne710@comcast.net To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com ........Question...I remember at least two huge statues...one (at least) was a man on a horse. It was either in the middle of an intersection or on a corner. Does anyone know what they were and where they were? ........dianne _______________________________________________________

My Aunt taught at Bay View High School 1939-1978. Does anyone on the list remember her? ALICE R. RILEY She taught English, and subbed at Latin, Spanish, and Calculus. She died in 1997 after being mugged in Whitefish Bay. She kept journals and I will go through them again and post any names that might be of importance to others on the list. She attended and graduated from UW-Madison on a full scholarship for being valedictorian of her graduating class at Riverside High. She truly loved her students at Bay View High. She never married but said she had hundreds of children! Gail in Appleton, WI genereau@vbe.com

Can anyone tell me which bridge was referred to in the 40s as The Viaduct? I remember crossing it with my 15-year-old cousin But since I was not from Milwaukee, had no idea what the real Name of that bridge was. ellen@BarrFinancial.com -----Original Message----- From: wimilwau-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wimilwau-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jazinski@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:20 AM To: Milwaukee list Milwaukee list Subject: [WIMILWAU] Postcards from Milwaukee http://www.december.com/places/mke/album.html So many memories in these postcards. Take your pick. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, now I do remember that it was cheaper to mail them unsealed. And I think I do vaguely remember twice a day delivery. My Greek Gramps was an ice cream man, too--it was one of the many things he did to survive during the Depression in Racine. In addition to having a bar and an ice cream route, I think he also helped run a candy shop with his brother-in-law at one point. Liz Heffren wrote: > Yes, and the cards weren't sealed because then the postage was cheaper!! > > The good ol' days. Mail twice a day right to your door, the milk chute near > the back door where the milkman deposited your order (and froze in > winter) -- oh, and the milk trucks pulled by horses during World War II. > The iceman and the coal men. The produce trucks, the bakery trucks, Charlie > the popcorn man, the summer ice cream man with his bells. And during the > 30's and the depression when I was quite young, a boy with a cart pulled by > a goat came by. He would give neighborhood kids a ride for a few cents each > to earn money. Still have the picture of my brother and I on that cart! > > Great memories. Too bad things have changed so very much!! > > Liz > >

Maxine, I used to rent an apt. on the NW corner of Wright and Pierce (1978-1983, before I bought my house). Actually, the corner lot was empty (our yard) and my apartment was in the first house north of the lot on Pierce. Where did you live on Wright? I think my Great Aunt Olga Buchholz's husband's family was from Wright and something. I looked them up once. The father's name was Johan Westphal, I believe. My great-uncle was Bob Westphal. I know the Westphals later ran a gas station on Burleigh around 14th St. or so. Not sure if it was Bob or his father or both that ran the gas station--I'm thinking Bob, given the timing. I still have some old copies of an art print of a lady that they must have used on a calendar because the name of the gas station is someplace on the bottom of the page. I love this old memory-lane stuff. As for childhood memories, my memories from the 1960's are of my mom bringing us up from Racine to the Boston Store and to Gimbels (both on Wisconsin Ave.) to take us shopping for clothes each fall. I don't remember if she brought all three of us girls, or just me and my 2nd sister (I'll have to ask them). But I still remember one year when she bought me two plaid wool skirts--one a heathery green and the other a heathery blue, with matching plain green and blue sweaters. Funny how certain clothes will just stick in your mind. I didn't have a lot of experience with Milwaukee when I was a kid. But when I first moved to Milwaukee in 1977, I knew right away that I would live in Riverwest and when I moved to my house in 1983, and later started to research my roots, I thought it was so interesting that my Franks and Buchholzs had also lived in the same general area of Milwaukee before moving south to northern Racine Co. Maxine Capezza wrote: > While we are going down memory lane.....I remember the rag man with a > horse pulling a wagon to collect rags. He would yell "rags, rags" as > he went down the street....Wright Street in my case. > > >

There's a large statue of Taddeusz Kosciusko on a horse in Kosciusko Park on Milwaukee's South Side. It faces Lincoln Avenue at South 9th Place. It's almost across the street from the Basilica of St. Josaphat at Lincoln and South Sixth Street. My husband and I drove past it last Saturday when we visited friends in Milwaukee. He recalled shaking hands with JFK when he campaigned at the park in 1960. He was nine years old at that time. I am enjoying all the memories/recipes of Milwaukee. Gail in Appleton, WI > <SNIP> >Question...I remember at least two huge statues...one (at least) was a > man on a horse. It was either in the middle of an intersection or on a > corner. Does anyone know what they were and where they were? > ********************************************************************

Was this the man who also collected tin foil and (I think) rubber bands? I remember him vividly and thought I was the only one! 10th and Concordia circa 1953. I remember the "ice man" bringing those huge blocks of ice too..that was earlier...1948-49 I was a toddler. I remember the thrill of riding the street car with my father to go see "Peter Pan" when it was first released..he let me pull the cord and I felt so grown up...I remember button buzzers...either on street cars or buses. One of my most vivid memories is when my father had to drop something off at City Hall. We parked right by the entry and that building and it's odd triangular shape totally fascinated me. Seeing photos of it always gives me a thrill. Question...I remember at least two huge statues...one (at least) was a man on a horse. It was either in the middle of an intersection or on a corner. Does anyone know what they were and where they were? and the dear Milwaukee lingo..."bubblers....bubblers...bubblers" Oh, how I'd love to "go home"....just for a while... So many memories..even after nearly 54 years.........dianne >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:35:44 -0600 >From: Maxine Capezza <mcapezza@earthlink.net> >Subject: [WIMILWAU] Milwaukee memories >To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20070124223403.0276d310@earthlink.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >While we are going down memory lane.....I remember the rag man with a >horse pulling a wagon to collect rags. He would yell "rags, rags" as >he went down the street....Wright Street in my case. > > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the WIMILWAU list administrator, send an email to >WIMILWAU-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the WIMILWAU mailing list, send an email to WIMILWAU@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of WIMILWAU Digest, Vol 2, Issue 28 >*************************************** > > > > -- Begin doing what you want to do now. We are not living in eternity. We have only this moment, sparkling like a star in our hand and melting like a snowflake. Marie Beyon Ray

While we are going down memory lane.....I remember the rag man with a horse pulling a wagon to collect rags. He would yell "rags, rags" as he went down the street....Wright Street in my case.

I remember the man with his cart that would go door to door to sharpen scissors and knives for a few dollars. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Heffren" <tinlizzie@npgcable.com> To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] mail > Yes, and the cards weren't sealed because then the postage was cheaper!! > > The good ol' days. Mail twice a day right to your door, the milk chute > near > the back door where the milkman deposited your order (and froze in > winter) -- oh, and the milk trucks pulled by horses during World War II. > The iceman and the coal men. The produce trucks, the bakery trucks, > Charlie > the popcorn man, the summer ice cream man with his bells. And during the > 30's and the depression when I was quite young, a boy with a cart pulled > by > a goat came by. He would give neighborhood kids a ride for a few cents > each > to earn money. Still have the picture of my brother and I on that cart! > > Great memories. Too bad things have changed so very much!! > > Liz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary R. Frank" <mrfrank@uwm.edu> > To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] mail > > >> Yes, and I remember when we didn't even seal all those cards we sent--we >> just turned the flaps in on the envelopes. I still remember walking >> them up to the corner mailbox for my mom. Yes, and having the cards >> taped all over the French doors to our living room--it really made us >> kids anticipate Christmas. >> >> JaneKenW@aol.com wrote: >>> I grew up in Waukegan, IL and lived there for 21 years. I only remember >>> one >>> mail delivery a day except at Christmas time, when the Post Office would >>> hire >>> a lot of extra postmen, and we would have several mail deliveries a day. >>> What >>> a fun time waiting for the mailman to bring lots of Christmas cards. >>> Jane >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

When you sealed the envelope it was three cents, unsealed was two cents. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maxine Capezza" <mcapezza@earthlink.net> To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] mail > Thank you. We both must be old. When you didn't seal an envelope, > it was cheaper. Don't know why?? > At 04:03 PM 1/24/07, you wrote: >>I must be old, I remember two deliveries M-F and one on Saturday, also >>penny >>postcards. >> >>Ken in Nc >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Mary R. Frank" <mrfrank@uwm.edu> >>To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:27 PM >>Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] mail >> >> >> > Yes, and I remember when we didn't even seal all those cards we >> > sent--we >> > just turned the flaps in on the envelopes. I still remember walking >> > them up to the corner mailbox for my mom. Yes, and having the cards >> > taped all over the French doors to our living room--it really made us >> > kids anticipate Christmas. >> > >> > JaneKenW@aol.com wrote: >> >> I grew up in Waukegan, IL and lived there for 21 years. I only >> >> remember >> >> one >> >> mail delivery a day except at Christmas time, when the Post Office >> >> would >> >> hire >> >> a lot of extra postmen, and we would have several mail deliveries a >> >> day. >> >> What >> >> a fun time waiting for the mailman to bring lots of Christmas cards. >> >> Jane >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, and the cards weren't sealed because then the postage was cheaper!! The good ol' days. Mail twice a day right to your door, the milk chute near the back door where the milkman deposited your order (and froze in winter) -- oh, and the milk trucks pulled by horses during World War II. The iceman and the coal men. The produce trucks, the bakery trucks, Charlie the popcorn man, the summer ice cream man with his bells. And during the 30's and the depression when I was quite young, a boy with a cart pulled by a goat came by. He would give neighborhood kids a ride for a few cents each to earn money. Still have the picture of my brother and I on that cart! Great memories. Too bad things have changed so very much!! Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary R. Frank" <mrfrank@uwm.edu> To: <wimilwau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] mail > Yes, and I remember when we didn't even seal all those cards we sent--we > just turned the flaps in on the envelopes. I still remember walking > them up to the corner mailbox for my mom. Yes, and having the cards > taped all over the French doors to our living room--it really made us > kids anticipate Christmas. > > JaneKenW@aol.com wrote: >> I grew up in Waukegan, IL and lived there for 21 years. I only remember >> one >> mail delivery a day except at Christmas time, when the Post Office would >> hire >> a lot of extra postmen, and we would have several mail deliveries a day. >> What >> a fun time waiting for the mailman to bring lots of Christmas cards. >> Jane >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

And sometimes, if the mail was going to someone in the same city, we would write "city" instead of the city and state -- this was also before zip codes. Jane