Thank you. I'll have to check to see if that's my Fred or not. I thought his middle initial was an F. I'll have to double check that. Anna died in 1932 so she was dead by then. I do think that's Max though. Thank you. Rhonda <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more.

Hi, I was wondering if there are Milwaukee City Directories for 1930 and if anyone has access to them? I'm hoping to find two families. One is Fred/Frank Molik who lived in 1110 or 1114 Ring Street. His wife would have been Anna. The other is Max Molik and his wife Johanna/Hanna. I'm not sure where they lived. Possibly 11th and Concordia. No house address is known. I am not seeing them in the 1930 census records so I don't know if they were missed or they weren't actually in Milwaukee at that time or ? Thank you in advance for any help. Rhonda <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more.

John, Thanks. I'll pass the information on to my friend. Rhonda <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more.

Rhonda- I just searched in Google for, free polish translator and found lots of hits. Here's one such hit where you can enter a word or sentence; www.Poltran.com <http://www.poltran.com/>. John in Racine Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:48:14 EST > From: LOUWELOUWE@aol.com > Subject: [WIMILWAU] street and translator > To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d5c.2b190bf.330c804e@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I'm helping a friend work on her family line and we have a couple of > questions. Is there a site or is there someone who I can put her in touch > with who > reads or translates Polish? She recently got a couple of documents that > are in > Polish so she needs some help with that. She lives in Milwaukee. > > Also, I've been unable to find her family in the 1930 census records so > I'm > thinking their last name is spelled way off from what it actually is. She > knows they were living on Ring Street in Milwaukee. How can I found out > what > Enumeration district that is so I can try to find them that way? > > Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions. > Rhonda

Thank you. I have already passed your note on to her. Rhonda <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more.

Donna, Thank you for the advice. I'll pass it along to my friend. Her family was from Germany. Would there be a church that translates? As for the Enumeration district, with a bit of hunting and searching, I was able to find the district they were in. Thank you and the list again for your suggestions and help. Rhonda <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more.

Have her try calling the Slavic Languages department at UWM. They may have knowledge of people willing to do translations of Polish language items. http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/FLL/ Phone: 414-229-4948 Fax: (414) 229-2741 *Our mailing address:* Department of Foreign Languages and Linguistics University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee P.O. Box 413 Milwaukee, WI 53201-0413 *Our street address:* Department of Foreign Languages and Linguistics Curtin Hall 829 3243 N. Downer Avenue Milwaukee, WI 53211 LOUWELOUWE@aol.com wrote: > Donna, > > Thank you for the advice. I'll pass it along to my friend. Her family was > from Germany. Would there be a church that translates? > As for the Enumeration district, with a bit of hunting and searching, I was > able to find the district they were in. > > Thank you and the list again for your suggestions and help. > > Rhonda > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> Check out free AOL at > http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free > safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the > web, free AOL Mail and much more. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Rhonda If she knows the house number on Ring St or Cross street that would help if you go to this site it will be able to tell you ED number Obtaining EDs and streets for the 1910-1940 Census in One Step _http://stevemorse.org/census/index.html_ (http://stevemorse.org/census/index.html) Donna <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more.

Rhonda When I received Letters from Croatia after finding family there I went to the Croatian Catholic Church in Downtown Los Angeles and had the priest there translate for me so your friend is bound to be able to find a priest or someone in Milwaukee that speaks Polish since there is as was a lot of Polish people that settled there including my husbands Kosinski / Drewa / Sikorski family as for the census what was the name of the family and ages if possible and maybe us on the list can give advice or try different spellings of the name Hope this helps Donna <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more.

I'm helping a friend work on her family line and we have a couple of questions. Is there a site or is there someone who I can put her in touch with who reads or translates Polish? She recently got a couple of documents that are in Polish so she needs some help with that. She lives in Milwaukee. Also, I've been unable to find her family in the 1930 census records so I'm thinking their last name is spelled way off from what it actually is. She knows they were living on Ring Street in Milwaukee. How can I found out what Enumeration district that is so I can try to find them that way? Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions. Rhonda <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more.

I've been busy with non-cyberspace matters-- and I've been delayed in joining others in thanking Wilson Brown for his very thorough & interesting review of the economic and religious factors behind the post-1660 emigration of settlers westward from CT(http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/NJESSEX/2007-02/1171074719). MANY THANKS to Wilson. I have since reviewed some ancestral fan charts that were printed out relating to my great-grandfather Jonathan Ogden MAGIE, born in Elizabeth, Essex, NJ, on 28 Mar 1823 and died in Milwaukee, Milwaukee, WI, on 30 Aug 1901. In the mid-1840s, Jonathan briefly joined several close Ogden relatives (formerly of Elizabeth) in Cincinnati, OH, before returning to Elizabeth and saying goodbye to his parents at their ca. 1790 house at 910 Magie Ave. (extant though sadly much transmogrified in the 1930s), and then moving permanently in early 1848 to Milwaukee. He reached Milwaukee via a series of new short railroad lines from Albany to Buffalo on Lake Erie, then traveled via one of the trans-Ohio canals back to Cincinnati, followed by steamboat travel along the Ohio, Mississippi, and Illinois rivers to the newly completed (late April 1848) Illinois & Michigan Canal linking the Illinois River to Lake Michigan (a rather roundabiout route!). And it was this tiny canal, sections of which still survive, that led directly to Chicago's emergence as a world class city. Initially Jonathan lived in Milwaukee with his uncle John Ogden (1801-1891), also an Elizabeth native and one of the very first Milwaukee settlers. In 1835, John had traveled all the way from NJ to WI via horseback (perhaps a more sensible transportation system). While Wilson indicates that Newark (NJ) was primarily settled by emigrants from what is now Connecticut, he also states what my family's ancestral fan charts clearly reaffirm--> that Elizabeth (NJ), as founded in 1664, was mostly a colony of the Hamptons-- at the eastern tip of Long Island. The Hamptons had reportedly been settled 1639-1640 mostly by Puritan immigrants from Salem & Lynn, MA (north of Boston)-- and were thus Puritan colonies, like later Newark & Elizabeth, NJ. The Hamptons had been claimed by the NY Dutch-- and also by the English-speaking colonies of New Haven and Hartford that were linked together as "Connecticut" in 1665 and that originally founded the Long Island Hamptons. But when the NY colony was transferred to the British in 1665, ALL of Long Island became permanently part of the New York. Even though the Hamptons were settled only some 25 years before Elizabeth, NJ, I see that most of my Elizabeth ancestors had origins, however brief, in the Hamptons. Also, some Dutch settlers seem to have been accepted as full members of the Long Island Hamptons settlements, e.g., four closely related ancestors of mine, all apparently born in the Netherlands--> Meriken MELYN (daughter of Cornelius), b. 1637 in Amsterdam, d. 1697 in Elizabeth, after moving there from East Hampton with her husband Matthias HATFIELD, b. 1640, d. 1687 at Elizabeth. Also Meriken's older sister Cornelia MELYN, b. 1628, who d. 1717 in East Hampton-- wife of Jacobus SCHELLINX, b. 1625, d. 1693, also in East Hampton. One thing I notice about Wilson's list of Newark surnames is that many are included in my family's genealogy database-- yet many are NOT. In contrast, relatively many more names in our database are buried in the Colonial Cemetery at Westfield, NJ (west of Elizabeth)-- even though I apparently have no direct ancestors who ever lived in Westfield. Thus my theory that much USA settlement has tended to follow rather rigid westward strips, with relatively little diagonal movement between strips. Thus the people of Syracuse and Milwaukee speak a rather similar version of English-- and quite different from the "English" spoken in, say, Savannah and Shreveport (in Dixie). Presumably my Hamptons ancestors gave away their eastern Long Island land for a song (or close to it) when they moved to Elizabeth in the 17th & 18th century. I sure wish at least one of them had figured out that I would be a descendant and had set aside just a little land there for me, even some inauspicious swamp land. Today that swamp land might be worth millions to land hungry 21st century billionaires needing more space in the Hamptons for lavish entertaining-- and I'd be able to sell that swamp land at a VERY nice profit ...............John (in metro Chicago) PPS (to Wilson mostly)-- a week ago or so I think I figured out which Phebe MEGIE in my family's database married (and reportedly mistreated!) YOUR relative George VAN NESS. I note in an online 1853 map of Morris County (http://mapmaker.rutgers.edu/Morris/Morris_County1853_east.jpg) that there are a lot of Van Ness families in northeast Morris County. The Phebe Megie I have in mind was born soon after 1789 and grew up in southeast Morris County (not far from New Providence in present Union County) in the ca. 1785 home of her father Abraham Megie (see Rutgers map) that existed ca. 1915 and may still exist on the north side of East Madison Ave., near modern Pierson Lane-- in what used to be "Genungtown" and is now southern section of Florham Park. Abraham Megie and most of his children moved ca. 1857 to the east side of the Mississippi River, settling at Terre Haute, Henderson, IL-- though maybe not Phebe, who probably remained in NJ. She is a close relative of formerly obscure Lizzie J. Magie (1866-1948), born McComb, IL-- who has recently been much celebrated on the Internet (and thanks to a recent favorable US Supreme Court decision) as the true creator, ca. 1903, of Monopoly, the world's most popular board game-- and a favorite pastime of economist Rex Tugwell, 1891-1979 (Wilson's mentor?), one of FDR's Brain Trusters and a friend of my family. More on all this later. In the meantime, does anyone know whether the above MORRIS COUNTY home of Abraham MEGIE (probably built for his father Joseph) still exists?? ______________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: [NJESSEX] CT to NJ Migration Date: 2/9/2007 7:38:22 P.M. CST From: wintereve@bellsouth.net Reply-to: njessex@rootsweb.com To: njessex@rootsweb.com Does anyone know why a large group of families left CT and moved to NJ in the early 1700's? Several of us were interested in the migration patterns of our families. Would appreciate the Lists' thoughts on the matter _____________________________________________________________________

(This message is being posted to numerous mailing lists. Please excuse the duplication if you receive it more than once.) The Olympia Resort & Conference Center in Oconomowoc, Wisconsin, will be the site of the upcoming Wisconsin State Genealogical Society's 2007 Gene-A-Rama, "Genealogy: Genetics + Generations" on Friday and Saturday, 13 and 14 April. The hosts will be the Waukesha County Genealogical Society. Along with our usual array of great vendors offering genealogy-related items for sale, the featured speakers will be Megan Smolenyak Smolenyak, Ancestry.com's Chief Family Historian, James L. Hansen, FASG, David McDonald, CG, Nancy J. Emmert, CG, and George Findlen, CG. Friday's lectures include: * Reverse Genealogy: Techniques for Finding Your Lost Loved Ones (Smolenyak) * Not Just Wisconsin -- The Resources of the Wisconsin Historical Society (Hansen) * The Value of the 1917 Code of Canon Law for Understanding Odd (and "Missing") Parish Register Entries (Findlen) * Building a Village-Based Community (Smolenyak) * Getting Around the Lost 1890 Census (Hansen) * On Location: Researching in Your Ancestor's Community (Emmert) * Remembering Our Ancestors (Smolenyak) Saturday's topics are: * Lutherpalians & Presbygationalists: What Happened to Grandma's Church? (McDonald) * So What Do I Do Next? Developing a Research Plan (Emmert) * Trace Your Roots with DNA (Smolenyak) * New Yorkers to the Midwest/Wisconsin (McDonald) * BCG Certification Workshop (Emmert and Findlen) * Beyond Y-DNA: Your Genetic Genealogy (Smolenyak) The Olympia Resort & Conference Center is located at 1350 Royale Mile Road in Oconomowoc, about half-way between Milwaukee and Madison. For directions and more information about the hotel, see http://www.olympiaresort.com/. For room reservations, contact the hotel at 800-558-9573 before 13 March 2007. Reduced registration rates for the event are available before 30 March 2007. For further information about Gene-A-Rama and registration materials, please visit the WSGS Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wsgs/gar2007.htm, or contact: Wisconsin State Genealogical Society P.O. Box 5106 Madison, WI 53705-0106 wsgs@chorus.net ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Mary Rieder Program & Education Committee East Central District Representative (Dodge, Fond du Lac, Green Lake, Ozaukee, Sheboygan, and Washington Counties) Wisconsin State Genealogical Society mrieder@wi.rr.com

Looks like Brown Deer Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:58:39 -0600 From: "Kathy F." <Kathyfuhr@new.rr.com> Subject: [WIMILWAU] Vital Records Index Hi, Hoping someone can tell me what city or town this is in Milwaukee Count? The Vital Records index lists it as a 1973 death in BRDE. Thank you, Kathy

Thank you:-) Kathy -----Original Message----- From: wimilwau-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wimilwau-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of John Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:59 AM To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] WIMILWAU Digest, Vol 2, Issue 45 It's Brown Deer. It's located on the far northern edge of the county. John in Racine WI Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:58:39 -0600 > From: "Kathy F." <Kathyfuhr@new.rr.com> > Subject: [WIMILWAU] Vital Records Index > To: "WIMILWAU-L" <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <MJECKMOHNDFPAJDIKLFIOEAFFAAA.Kathyfuhr@new.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > > Hoping someone can tell me what city or town this is in Milwaukee Count? > > The Vital Records index lists it as a 1973 death in BRDE. > > Thank you, > Kathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's Brown Deer. It's located on the far northern edge of the county. John in Racine WI Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:58:39 -0600 > From: "Kathy F." <Kathyfuhr@new.rr.com> > Subject: [WIMILWAU] Vital Records Index > To: "WIMILWAU-L" <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <MJECKMOHNDFPAJDIKLFIOEAFFAAA.Kathyfuhr@new.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > > Hoping someone can tell me what city or town this is in Milwaukee Count? > > The Vital Records index lists it as a 1973 death in BRDE. > > Thank you, > Kathy

Thanks much. I saw 2 or 3 that could possibly be it but believe Brown Deer fits best. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: wimilwau-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wimilwau-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of jazinski@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:54 PM To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] Vital Records Index http://www.wistravel.com/wisconsincitylisting.htm Here's a list of cities in Wisconsin. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Kathy F." <Kathyfuhr@new.rr.com> > Hi, > > Hoping someone can tell me what city or town this is in Milwaukee Count? > > The Vital Records index lists it as a 1973 death in BRDE. > > Thank you, > Kathy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much, Kathy -----Original Message----- From: wimilwau-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wimilwau-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Bobbi Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:37 AM To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com Subject: [WIMILWAU] Vital Records Index Kathy F. ---- BRDE is most likely Brown Deer, a community roughly bounded by County Line Road on the North; Bradley Road to the South; 69th Street to the West and the Milwaukee River to the East. I hope this helps. Bobbi Broeniman Lannon, WI -----Original Message----- From: wimilwau-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wimilwau-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of wimilwau-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:02 AM To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com Subject: WIMILWAU Digest, Vol 2, Issue 45 Today's Topics: 1. Vital Records Index (Kathy F.) 2. Re: Vital Records Index (jazinski@comcast.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:58:39 -0600 From: "Kathy F." <Kathyfuhr@new.rr.com> Subject: [WIMILWAU] Vital Records Index To: "WIMILWAU-L" <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <MJECKMOHNDFPAJDIKLFIOEAFFAAA.Kathyfuhr@new.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, Hoping someone can tell me what city or town this is in Milwaukee Count? The Vital Records index lists it as a 1973 death in BRDE. Thank you, Kathy ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 05:54:21 +0000 From: jazinski@comcast.net Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] Vital Records Index To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <021620070554.9483.45D5470D0000D7E10000250B220073483007059C0207960E06@comcas t.net> Content-Type: text/plain http://www.wistravel.com/wisconsincitylisting.htm Here's a list of cities in Wisconsin. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Kathy F." <Kathyfuhr@new.rr.com> > Hi, > > Hoping someone can tell me what city or town this is in Milwaukee Count? > > The Vital Records index lists it as a 1973 death in BRDE. > > Thank you, > Kathy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the WIMILWAU list administrator, send an email to WIMILWAU-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the WIMILWAU mailing list, send an email to WIMILWAU@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of WIMILWAU Digest, Vol 2, Issue 45 *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: wimilwau-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wimilwau-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of GipCWoman@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:18 AM To: wimilwau@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WIMILWAU] Vital Records Index possibly Browndeer?? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

possibly Browndeer??

http://www.wistravel.com/wisconsincitylisting.htm Here's a list of cities in Wisconsin. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Kathy F." <Kathyfuhr@new.rr.com> > Hi, > > Hoping someone can tell me what city or town this is in Milwaukee Count? > > The Vital Records index lists it as a 1973 death in BRDE. > > Thank you, > Kathy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIMILWAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message