Hello List: I am new to the list and researching the following Lieber family from Greenfield, Hales Corner and Franklin in Milwaukee County. Elizabeth Lieber, born 1777(unknown where, possibly in Germany), died 1864 and Anton Lieber, unknown place of birth and death. Elizabeth is buried in Forest Home Cemetery in Milwaukee. Henry Lieber SR, born Hannover, Germany, circa 1814/1815. Possibly married to Louise Scherf(?) and Paulina Wilhelmina (unk. last name). Henry died December 27, 1890 in Greenfield and was survived by his wife (Wilhelmina) and nine grown children. Some of the children are: William, Charles, Louise, Henry JR. (b. about 1845 in Milwaukee County), Elizabeth, Sophia and Rosaline. Henry SR, Wilhelmina, Louise, Rosaline and other family members are all buried in Forest Home Cemetery in Milwaukee in the Lieber family plot. There is also a connection to the STROTHMANN family of the same areas in Milwaukee County. Any information would be helpful!!!!! Cristy in Washington State ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

John, Some are, some aren't. I just write down each and every surname in the book (volume) and the page found on and any given names and/or initials and all wives maiden names. I don't even check the index of the book for I want every name in them. Usually if you see the name with consecutive numbers after it, those would be the ones found in the Index for they would be a biographical sketch. One question, John - you did not mention if you did or you did not receive the four biographical sketches that I mailed out to you from Watrous' 2nd volume. Did you get them or has good old Postal authorities caused me more headaches? Bob

I only found one John Hoelzl born 1860 in the National index, and he was living in Michigan. His wifes name was Magdalena. I have listed the information below and also have also listed the names that were similar that I found in the National index. Census Place: Columbia, Tuscola, Michigan Source: FHL Film 1254607 National Archives Film T9-0607 Page 48A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace John G. HOELZLE Self M M W 48 WERTENBURG Occ: Farmer Fa: WERTENBURG Mo: WERTENBURG Magdalena HOELZLE Wife F M W 47 WERTENBURG Occ: Keeping House Fa: WERTENBURG Mo: WERTENBURG Emanuel G. HOELZLE Son M S W 19 MI Occ: Works On Farm Fa: WERTENBURG Mo: WERTENBURG Susana HOELZLE Dau F S W 17 MI Fa: WERTENBURG Mo: WERTENBURG John F. HOELZLE Son M S W 15 MI Occ: Attending School Fa: WERTENBURG Mo: WERTENBURG Lewis C. HOELZLE Son M S W 13 MI Fa: WERTENBURG Mo: WERTENBURG Edward W. HOELZLE Son M S W 10 MI Fa: WERTENBURG Mo: WERTENBURG Rosa J. HOELZLE Dau F S W 8 MI Fa: WERTENBURG Mo: WERTENBURG Julia HOELZLE Dau F S W 6 MI Fa: WERTENBURG Mo: WERTENBURG George F. HOELZLE Son M S W 4 MI Fa: WERTENBURG Mo: WERTENBURG HOETZELL, George Other <1857> M W PA PA HOETZEL, Louis Self <1857> M W NY NJ HOETZEL, Lena Wife <1859> F W NY NJ HOETZEL, Mary Dau <1862> F W NY NYC HOETZEL, Max Son <1862> M W GERM NYC HOETZEL, Julius Other <1863> M W IL CA HOETZEL, Catherine Dau <1865> F W NY NYC HOETZEL, William Son <1865> M W NY NYC HOELZEL, Peter Son <1856> M W LA LA HOELZEL, Louis Son <1857> M W NY NJ HOELZEL, Odelia Wife <1860> F W CT MA HOELZEL, Emmie Wife <1860> F W WI WI HOELZEL, George Son <1860> M W LA LA HOELZEL, Ph. Son <1860> M W LA LA HOELZLE, Augusta Dau <1861> F W NY NYC HOELZLE, Emanuel G. Son <1861> M W MI MI HOELZLE, Lizzie Other <1861> F W NJ NYC HOELZEL, Mary Ann Other <1862> F W WI WI HOELZLE, Rosa Niece <1862> F W NY NYC HOELZLE, Caroline Dau <1863> F W NY NYC HOELZEL, Henry Son <1863> M W NY NJ HOELZLE, Susana Dau <1863> F W MI MI HOELZLE, John F. Son <1865> M W MI MI ----- Original Message ----- From: < To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] 1880 Census (LDS) > I am looking for John Hoelzl or Hotzl in Milwaukee. He was born in 1860. > His wife is Anna. > Thanks for helping > Cheryl > >

Hi, He is not listed in the index. Soirry. HAve you ever written to Milwaukee County Genealogical Society Post Office Box 27326 Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53227-0326 Milwaukee County Historical Society 910 Old World Third Street Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53203 I don't live in Wisconsin, but they have helped me a lot. Good luck. MAxine At 10:23 PM 7/7/2001 EDT, you wrote: >I am looking for John Hoelzl or Hotzl in Milwaukee. He was born in 1860. >His wife is Anna. >Thanks for helping >Cheryl > > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > >

Re: [WiMilwau] E. Milwaukee Avenue, Wauwatosa? ======================================================== Milwaukee view, David W. Moody, 1854: http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.gmd/g4124m.pm010443 Wauwatosa & Milwaukee view, Marr & Richards, 1892: http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.gmd/g4124w.pm010650 Milwaukee's St. John's Cathedral- detailed recent photo: http://www.msoe.edu/~reyer/mke/1847b.jpg Milwaukee's St. John's Cathedral: alternate recent photo: http://www.msoe.edu/~reyer/mke/1847b.html all US Library of Congress panoramic maps: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/pmhtml/panhome.html other Milwaukee area panoramic ("bird's-eye') maps at LC: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/gmd:@band(wisconsin+milwaukee) other Milwaukee panoramic ("bird's-eye') maps at LC (the alternate URL below may need to be spliced back together after being received from RootsWeb): http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/gmd:@FILREQ(@field(SUBJ+@band(Wisc onsin--Milwaukee+))+@FIELD(COLLID+citymap)) ======================================================== To Denver Penny, Brookfield Bob, and other WiMilwau listers-- Wohin führt diese Straße? "Wo letztlich die Verantwortung liegt." I've spoken of this before on this list, but if you want to see some 19th century (pre-airplane) images of what the Milwaukee area, including Wauwatosa, looked from an airplane, I recommend checking out one of the panoramic maps at: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/gmd:@band(wisconsin+milwaukee). Penny, I especially refer you to the nice Wauwatosa view that I've listed above. It might even reveal some detail on a new 1892 addition to a one the homes of your Hintz relatives. It might even show Ferdinand Hintz in his garden! What you do is first to paste the above Wauwatosa URL in your browser. After pressing GO, hopefully you are presented with a miniature version of this 1892 map. Click on this, and you should be provided with a larger version of the same map-- showing central Wauwatosa in the left foreground and, to the east and more distant, downtown Milwaukee and Lake Michigan. Then click on the center "zoom" position and the 640x480 "window size" (both just below the map)-- and then find the big diagonal road that extends upward (and somewhat leftward) from the botton center of the map. This is the ancient Watertown Plank Road (now Harwood Ave. in Wauwatosa). This highway was an old toll road that ran on top of long parallel logs (I think) and was completed about 1851-- and survived maintenance-free for about as long as modern highways do (not too long). This toll road linked the Milwaukee area with Watertown, WI, to the northwest. Where the road dead ends, just NE of downtown Wauwatosa, was the west end of the old Wauwatosa Plank Road (now Milwaukee Ave. in Wauwatosa), a western extension of old Vliet Street in downtown Milwaukee. In the 1850s, these expensive "plank roads" were soon surpassed in importance by the coming of railroads. Now move your pointer to the intersection of Wauwatosa's modern Milwaukee Ave. and Harwood Ave. They meet at about a 60 degree angle and a few blocks NE of downtown Wauwatosa on the Menomonee River. If you can't find this intersection, just click near the left center of the map. And, presto, you have moderately detailed 1892 bird's-eye view of central Wauwatosa. Also, if you and others want to see what downtown Milwaukee looked like in the 1850s, I also recommend your checking out what I think is one of the most enchanting mid 19th century bird's-eye views of any American city: David W. Moody's 1854 panoramic map of downtown Milwaukee. This colored lithograph (originally 42 x 74 cm) seems to be quite accurate and possesses incredible detail. ONLY the badges on the distant policemen are difficult to read. Regarding the Moody map, first paste in the Moody URL (listedabove) and then click on the miniature map. On the larger map that is opened up, find-- to the left of the top center-- what is still Milwaukee's Roman Catholic Cathedral (begun about 1847). Its spire (now taller) is the only structure (other than the distant ships) to extend above the Lake Michigan horizon line in the Moody lithograph. The large size of this church image, compared to other large churches shown (only a few survive) suggests to me that Moody may well have been Catholic! Then below the whole Moody map, click the 640x480 "window" (as before) and then, this time, click on the second to left "zoom" button. Then direct your pointer toward the bottom left of the Cathedral spire-- and, very carefully, do a FINAL click. What should be clearly shown is much of the same Cathedral detail that can still be seen today, even though the upper part of the spire was rebuilt in the 1892 and the sanctuary interior was almost totally gutted in a 1935 fire. Then compare this image with a recent photo of the Cathedral at one of the above URLs, especially: http://www.msoe.edu/~reyer/mke/1847b.jpg Also note the old small Milwaukee County Courthouse (with belfry) to the left of the Cathedral. This Courthouse (plus another County structure to the right of it) disappeared long ago, and this whole former County Courthouse block is now known as "Cathedral Square." Sadly, other than Lake Michigan and the Milwaukee River, not much else in this 1854 view still survives. But one of the buildings shown is the large US Hotel (begun in 1844) at the NE corner of modern N. Water and Clybourn. The 1854 Milwaukee directory suggests that my great-grandfather Jonathan Magie was living there when the hotel was destroyed by fire in late 1854. And I'm very happy he survived. This fire was several months before his 1855 marriage at old St. Paul's Episcopal Church (also shown in the Moody view) at the NE corner of Mason & Jefferson. Old St. Paul's was presumably demolished when present St. Paul's (NE corner of Knapp & Marshall) was built in the 1880s. Many thanks to Bob of Brookfield for your long checklists of Milwaukee bibliographical references on my Ogden, Armour, Higby, Magie, Higby, and Eldred relatives. I'm a bit overwhelmed by all this-- and I now sure have a lot of work cut out for me during my next visit (long delayed) to the main Milwaukee Public Library. I'm assuming that very few of these references are included in the official indexes appended to these historical volumes. Bob, is this CORRECT? More about all this, Bob, via private e-mail-- soon (I trust). Finally I might point out that I'm also writing the above for several relatives that have historical interests-- a few, like me, to almost an hysterical extent. And I'm sorry that my WiMilwau postings tend to be rather long-winded-- and probably less terrific than SOPORIFIC. ........John (in Chicago) ___________________________________________________ <<Subj: [WiMilwau] E. Milwaukee Avenue, Wauwatosa? Date: 7/6/01 6:27:07 PM Central Daylight Time From: pforden@dimensional.com (Penny Ford) Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com I have not been able to locate the address of Ferdinand Hintz, my 2x great uncle, on Yahoo maps, etc. The address is 199 E. Milwaukee Avenue, Wauwatosa -- the year was 1931....... Penny Ziemer Ford>> ___________________________________________________ <<Subj: Re: [WiMilwau] E. Milwaukee Avenue, Wauwatosa? Date: 7/6/01 7:31:55 PM Central Daylight Time From: Gartzr@aol.com Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Penny ......got the street index from the Milwaukee Map Service, Inc. It covers both Milwaukee and Waukesha Counties. No East Milwaukee Ave. listed anywhere in either of the counties...... Bob of Brookfield>> ___________________________________________________ PS from JQM: all Wauwatosa address now seem to be tied to the City of Milwaukee system and range from 6200 to 8299 Milwaukee Ave. See: http://www.usps.gov/ncsc/lookups/lookup_zip+4.html

I am looking for John Hoelzl or Hotzl in Milwaukee. He was born in 1860. His wife is Anna. Thanks for helping Cheryl

The 1880 census on CD is great for 2 reasons: 1. The WPA soundex only indexed households that had at least one child under the age of 10, which obviously left out a lot of people. The CD has ALL families. 2. The WPA soundex indexed only heads of households. The CD is an EVERY name index. What this means is that you can search for children who were born before 1880 even if you don't know what their parents' given names were. Also, if you don't find the head of a household you're looking for, try another member of the household. Just this afternoon I was helping a patron at the FHC where I'm on staff. She was looking for a Hiram Mason whose wife was Mary and who had a son named Ortis. Mason is a common surname, but it shouldn't be too hard to find HIRAM Mason. Wrong! We then tried looking for Ortis Mason, since Ortis is a very uncommon name. Couldn't find him either. Finally, we tried Mary Mason and came up with more than 560 Mary Masons. We narrowed the search to the Prairie States Region and only 62 Mary Masons. And that did the trick. We found the family, with Hiram listed as H.S. Mason, and Ortis listed as Otis. There was also another child listed, and both of Hiram's parents! Another patron is looking for an ancestor who was orphaned and sent to live with an aunt, but she doesn't know the aunt's married name, so she's looking at EVERY woman whose given name was Sophronia (and every conceivable misspelling of Sophronia!). When you're working with a computerized index and can search on any field, don't limit yourself to just the surname. And, if you still don't find them, try using the soundex backwards to think of all the possible misspellings. Think creatively to get the max from this wonderful new source! Mary Popovich Busia's Roots, Professional Genealogy Author of "526 Marriages of Milwaukee's St. Stanislaus Parish, 1900-1909"

I also have the 1880 census from LDS, but the spellings are sometimes off. I found my Rosar family in Penn. Under Roner. I knew they were in the census since I had a copy of it - I just wanted to verify some information. It took me quite a while to find it. So you have to try many spellings and also I have tried just doing a search on a first name with approx. dob. But for the most part the 1880 cd rom is great Lenora from Wisconsin

Thanks for your help Linda. We'll keep looking and hopefully find the ship they came over on. Arthur ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Wright <linwright1@home.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] 1880 census > Hello Arthur, > Sorry I check both the Wisconsin and the National Index for John and Ulrica > and could not find them. I assume that they arrived after the 1880 census > was taken > Regards > Linda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Harrison" <arthurh@mediaone.net> > To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] 1880 census > > > > Hello Linda, > > > > Thank you for your offer to look-up names in the 1880 census. I am trying > > to locate John Karl ENGEL. He would have emigrated from Germany to > > Wisconsin between 1879 and 1882 with his wife Ulrica and an infant > daughter > > Bertha. I located them in the 1900 US Census living at 19th Avenue in > > MIlwaukee. > > > > Any assistance you could provide would be most appreciated. > > > > Arthur Harrison > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Linda Wright <linwright1@home.com> > > To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:40 PM > > Subject: [WiMilwau] 1880 census > > > > > > > If you are interested in a look-up in the 1880 Census, please email me > > with > > > your request. Please limit your request to 2 names and give as much > > > information as possible. Also please be patient as it might take me a > few > > > days to respond. > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Thanks all for your help and information. I have been kindly offered information about a church that my grandparents were married at, which is no longer there. I would like to know if anyone knows about any connections with either people or churches from whom I could get information/records from this, the name and address is: (Ephrata church??) (This is from 1915) Rev G. Friedrich, 308 Concordia Ave, witness: Louis B. Hellberg, 967 - 12th Pastor credentials at: FonduLac, Wisconsin, Goerge C. Ruhland, M.D. Thanks for any help!!! Pam ______________________________________________________ "Changing the World, One Book at a Time. . . . Invest in Our World's Future with FUN books for all ages. . . .. Check out www.UBAH.com/R0094, or www.makereadingfun.com, or www.usborne.com/quicklinks

Sorry, I guess when I did the copy and paste the Walter name was dropped. He is the very last person listed with this family. Census Place: Tomah, Monroe, Wisconsin Source: FHL Film 1255439 National Archives Film T9-1439 Page 119D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Henry EBERT Self M M W 52 GERM Occ: Laborer Fa: GERM Mo: GERM Aurilla EBERT Wife F M W 38 CT Occ: Keeps House Fa: CT Mo: CT Henry EBERT Son M S W 19 CT Occ: Laborer Fa: GERM Mo: CT Wm. EBERT Son M S W 16 NY Occ: Laborer Fa: GERM Mo: CT Salina EBERT Dau F S W 15 NY Occ: Attending School Fa: GERM Mo: CT Joseph EBERT Son M S W 12 NY Occ: Attending School Fa: GERM Mo: CT Harry EBERT Son M S W 10 NY Occ: Attending School Fa: GERM Mo: CT Charles EBERT Son M S W 6 CT Occ: Attending School Fa: GERM Mo: CT Walter EBERT Son M S W 1 WI Occ: At Home Fa: GERM Mo: CT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maryfrances Stewart" <stewart_maryfrances@hotmail.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] Walter Ebert > I don't spot a Walter here. Am I reading this correctly? > > > >From: "Linda Wright" <linwright1@home.com> > >Reply-To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > >To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] Walter Ebert > >Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 12:59:54 -0500 > >

I don't spot a Walter here. Am I reading this correctly? >From: "Linda Wright" <linwright1@home.com> >Reply-To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com >To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] Walter Ebert >Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 12:59:54 -0500 > >You did not give me a birthdate for Walter, and I only found one Walter in >Wisconsin with the Ebert surname. It was not in Milwaukee however. > > Census Place: Tomah, Monroe, Wisconsin > Source: FHL Film 1255439 National Archives Film T9-1439 Page 119D > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace >Henry EBERT Self M M W 52 GERM > Occ: Laborer Fa: GERM Mo: GERM >Aurilla EBERT Wife F M W 38 CT > Occ: Keeps House Fa: CT Mo: CT >Henry EBERT Son M S W 19 CT > Occ: Laborer Fa: GERM Mo: CT >Wm. EBERT Son M S W 16 NY > Occ: Laborer Fa: GERM Mo: CT >Salina EBERT Dau F S W 15 NY > Occ: Attending School Fa: GERM Mo: CT >Joseph EBERT Son M S W 12 NY > Occ: Attending School Fa: GERM Mo: CT >Harry EBERT Son M S W 10 NY > Occ: Attending School Fa: GERM Mo: CT >Charles EBERT Son M S W 6 CT > Occ: Attending School Fa: GERM Mo: CT >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Maryfrances Stewart" <stewart_maryfrances@hotmail.com> >To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 12:09 PM >Subject: [WiMilwau] Walter Ebert > > > > Would you look for Walter Ebert in Milwaukee census. He went on to be a > > banker in Milwaukee. Thanks, Pat Ebert > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

You did not give me a birthdate for Walter, and I only found one Walter in Wisconsin with the Ebert surname. It was not in Milwaukee however. Census Place: Tomah, Monroe, Wisconsin Source: FHL Film 1255439 National Archives Film T9-1439 Page 119D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Henry EBERT Self M M W 52 GERM Occ: Laborer Fa: GERM Mo: GERM Aurilla EBERT Wife F M W 38 CT Occ: Keeps House Fa: CT Mo: CT Henry EBERT Son M S W 19 CT Occ: Laborer Fa: GERM Mo: CT Wm. EBERT Son M S W 16 NY Occ: Laborer Fa: GERM Mo: CT Salina EBERT Dau F S W 15 NY Occ: Attending School Fa: GERM Mo: CT Joseph EBERT Son M S W 12 NY Occ: Attending School Fa: GERM Mo: CT Harry EBERT Son M S W 10 NY Occ: Attending School Fa: GERM Mo: CT Charles EBERT Son M S W 6 CT Occ: Attending School Fa: GERM Mo: CT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maryfrances Stewart" <stewart_maryfrances@hotmail.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 12:09 PM Subject: [WiMilwau] Walter Ebert > Would you look for Walter Ebert in Milwaukee census. He went on to be a > banker in Milwaukee. Thanks, Pat Ebert > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

Hello Linda, Thank you for your offer to look-up names in the 1880 census. I am trying to locate John Karl ENGEL. He would have emigrated from Germany to Wisconsin between 1879 and 1882 with his wife Ulrica and an infant daughter Bertha. I located them in the 1900 US Census living at 19th Avenue in MIlwaukee. Any assistance you could provide would be most appreciated. Arthur Harrison ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Wright <linwright1@home.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:40 PM Subject: [WiMilwau] 1880 census > If you are interested in a look-up in the 1880 Census, please email me with > your request. Please limit your request to 2 names and give as much > information as possible. Also please be patient as it might take me a few > days to respond. > Linda > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Hello Arthur, Sorry I check both the Wisconsin and the National Index for John and Ulrica and could not find them. I assume that they arrived after the 1880 census was taken Regards Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Harrison" <arthurh@mediaone.net> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] 1880 census > Hello Linda, > > Thank you for your offer to look-up names in the 1880 census. I am trying > to locate John Karl ENGEL. He would have emigrated from Germany to > Wisconsin between 1879 and 1882 with his wife Ulrica and an infant daughter > Bertha. I located them in the 1900 US Census living at 19th Avenue in > MIlwaukee. > > Any assistance you could provide would be most appreciated. > > Arthur Harrison > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Linda Wright <linwright1@home.com> > To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:40 PM > Subject: [WiMilwau] 1880 census > > > > If you are interested in a look-up in the 1880 Census, please email me > with > > your request. Please limit your request to 2 names and give as much > > information as possible. Also please be patient as it might take me a few > > days to respond. > > Linda > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Would you look for Walter Ebert in Milwaukee census. He went on to be a banker in Milwaukee. Thanks, Pat Ebert _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Linda, Thanks a BUNCH ! Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Wright" <linwright1@home.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] 1880 Census > These are the only Fesslers listed in the census for Sheyboygan > FESSLER, Rosa Sister <1836> F W Bir: GERM > Cen: WI Sheboy Wilson > FESSLER, Anton Self <1843> M W Bir: GERM > Cen: WI Sheboy Lima > FESSLER, George Self <1848> M W Bir: GERM > Cen: WI Sheboy Wilson > FESSLER, Gertrude Wife <1850> F W Bir: GERM > Cen: WI Sheboy Lima > FESSLER, George Son <1880> M W Bir: WI > Cen: WI Sheboy Lima > > Here are the Downie/Downey listed in Waukeska....No Charles-only a Charles > and Mary in Milwaukee > DOWNEY, Jeremiah Self <1807> M W Bir: IREL > Cen: WI Waukes Ottawa > DOWNEY, Bridget Wife <1810> F W Bir: IREL > Cen: WI Waukes Ottawa > DOWNEY, Anna Mother <1811> F W Bir: IREL > Cen: WI Waukes NewBerlin > DOWNEY, Edward Self <1843> M W Bir: NY > Cen: WI Waukes NewBerlin > DOWNIE, James Self <1843> M W Bir: NY > Cen: WI Waukes Waukesha > DOWNEY, Michel Son <1844> M W Bir: NJ > Cen: WI Waukes Ottawa > DOWNIE, Helen Wife <1847> F W Bir: WI > Cen: WI Waukes Waukesha > DOWNEY, Margeret A. Self <1847> F W Bir: WI > Cen: WI Waukes Menomonee > DOWNEY, Mary Ann Self <1850> F W Bir: IREL > Cen: WI Waukes Genesee > DOWNEY, Rosa Wife <1858> F W Bir: WI > Cen: WI Waukes NewBerlin > DOWNEY, Anna GDau <1865> F W Bir: WI > Cen: WI Waukes Eagle > DOWNIE, S. R. H. Son <1866> M W Bir: WI > Cen: WI Waukes Waukesha > DOWNIE, W. W. Son <1868> M W Bir: WI > Cen: WI Waukes Waukesha > DOWNIE, Mattie E. Dau <1872> F W Bir: WI > Cen: WI Waukes Waukesha > DOWNEY, Mary A. Dau <1877> F W Bir: WI > Cen: WI Waukes Menomonee > DOWNEY, George Son <1879> M W Bir: WI > Cen: WI Waukes NewBerlin > > > Census Place: 2nd Dist Of The 9th Ward, Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin > Source: FHL Film 1255438 National Archives Film T9-1438 Page 87B > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > Maria DOWNEY Self F W W 54 CANADA > Occ: Keeping House Fa: IRELAND Mo: IRELAND > Charles DOWNEY Son M S W 28 WI > Occ: Cooper Fa: NY Mo: CANADA > Steltha DOWNEY Dau F S W 25 WI > Occ: At Home Fa: NY Mo: CANADA > Maria DOWNEY Dau F S W 22 WI > Occ: At Home Fa: NY Mo: CANADA > William DOWNEY Son M S W 19 WI > Occ: Work In Foundry Fa: NY Mo: CANADA > Frank DOWNEY Son M S W 16 WI > Occ: Work In Carrag Shop Fa: NY Mo: CANADA > Katy DOWNEY Dau F S W 15 WI > Fa: NY Mo: CANADA > Eugene DOWNEY Dau F S W 13 WI > Fa: NY Mo: CANADA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich and Susan Fellie" <RSFellie@email.msn.com> > To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 7:40 AM > Subject: [WiMilwau] 1880 Census > > > > Linda, > > > > Thanks for the Gentz info, I have a another request if you have the time. > > > > Peter Fessler md to Elizabeth Hammes living in Sheboygan or Sheboygan > City, > > WI. > > > > Charles or Chas. P. Downie md to Mary Peglow in Waukesha, WI > > > > Thanx, > > Rich F. > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

These are the only Fesslers listed in the census for Sheyboygan FESSLER, Rosa Sister <1836> F W Bir: GERM Cen: WI Sheboy Wilson FESSLER, Anton Self <1843> M W Bir: GERM Cen: WI Sheboy Lima FESSLER, George Self <1848> M W Bir: GERM Cen: WI Sheboy Wilson FESSLER, Gertrude Wife <1850> F W Bir: GERM Cen: WI Sheboy Lima FESSLER, George Son <1880> M W Bir: WI Cen: WI Sheboy Lima Here are the Downie/Downey listed in Waukeska....No Charles-only a Charles and Mary in Milwaukee DOWNEY, Jeremiah Self <1807> M W Bir: IREL Cen: WI Waukes Ottawa DOWNEY, Bridget Wife <1810> F W Bir: IREL Cen: WI Waukes Ottawa DOWNEY, Anna Mother <1811> F W Bir: IREL Cen: WI Waukes NewBerlin DOWNEY, Edward Self <1843> M W Bir: NY Cen: WI Waukes NewBerlin DOWNIE, James Self <1843> M W Bir: NY Cen: WI Waukes Waukesha DOWNEY, Michel Son <1844> M W Bir: NJ Cen: WI Waukes Ottawa DOWNIE, Helen Wife <1847> F W Bir: WI Cen: WI Waukes Waukesha DOWNEY, Margeret A. Self <1847> F W Bir: WI Cen: WI Waukes Menomonee DOWNEY, Mary Ann Self <1850> F W Bir: IREL Cen: WI Waukes Genesee DOWNEY, Rosa Wife <1858> F W Bir: WI Cen: WI Waukes NewBerlin DOWNEY, Anna GDau <1865> F W Bir: WI Cen: WI Waukes Eagle DOWNIE, S. R. H. Son <1866> M W Bir: WI Cen: WI Waukes Waukesha DOWNIE, W. W. Son <1868> M W Bir: WI Cen: WI Waukes Waukesha DOWNIE, Mattie E. Dau <1872> F W Bir: WI Cen: WI Waukes Waukesha DOWNEY, Mary A. Dau <1877> F W Bir: WI Cen: WI Waukes Menomonee DOWNEY, George Son <1879> M W Bir: WI Cen: WI Waukes NewBerlin Census Place: 2nd Dist Of The 9th Ward, Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin Source: FHL Film 1255438 National Archives Film T9-1438 Page 87B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Maria DOWNEY Self F W W 54 CANADA Occ: Keeping House Fa: IRELAND Mo: IRELAND Charles DOWNEY Son M S W 28 WI Occ: Cooper Fa: NY Mo: CANADA Steltha DOWNEY Dau F S W 25 WI Occ: At Home Fa: NY Mo: CANADA Maria DOWNEY Dau F S W 22 WI Occ: At Home Fa: NY Mo: CANADA William DOWNEY Son M S W 19 WI Occ: Work In Foundry Fa: NY Mo: CANADA Frank DOWNEY Son M S W 16 WI Occ: Work In Carrag Shop Fa: NY Mo: CANADA Katy DOWNEY Dau F S W 15 WI Fa: NY Mo: CANADA Eugene DOWNEY Dau F S W 13 WI Fa: NY Mo: CANADA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich and Susan Fellie" <RSFellie@email.msn.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 7:40 AM Subject: [WiMilwau] 1880 Census > Linda, > > Thanks for the Gentz info, I have a another request if you have the time. > > Peter Fessler md to Elizabeth Hammes living in Sheboygan or Sheboygan City, > WI. > > Charles or Chas. P. Downie md to Mary Peglow in Waukesha, WI > > Thanx, > Rich F. > > > > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

Hi Myra, Sorry I could not find a Reinhold Dummer....and the only Emilie I found was married to a William. There were no Heyse as neighbors to this Dummer family. There are 1900 Heyse families listed in the index (242 in Milwaukee) so I would need a bit more information in order to do a search of the name. Linda Census Place: Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin Source: FHL Film 1255436 National Archives Film T9-1436 Page 422A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Wm. DUMMER Self M M W 44 POMERN Occ: Wagon Maker Fa: POMERN Mo: POMERN Emilie DUMMER Wife F M W 38 POMERN Occ: Keeping House Fa: POMERN Mo: POMERN Kate DUMMER Dau F S W 14 CAN Occ: Seamstress Fa: POMERN Mo: POMERN Bertha DUMMER Dau F S W 11 WI Occ: At School Fa: POMERN Mo: POMERN Johann DUMMER Son M S W 9 WI Fa: POMERN Mo: POMERN Anna DUMMER Dau F S W 7 WI Fa: POMERN Mo: POMERN Wm. DUMMER Son M S W 6 WI Fa: POMERN Mo: POMERN Ernestine RATHKE Other F W W 74 POMERN Occ: Keeping House Fa: POMERN Mo: POMERN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger and Myra Christeck" <mojobuji@qwest.net> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: [WiMilwau] 1880 Census Look-Up > > Thanks so much for the offer of a look-up. I am looking for the name > Heyse and Dummer. Reinhold Dummer m. Emilie Heyse before 1883. Both > families were in Milwaukee City. I am especially interested to see if > there are any Heyses living close to the Dummers, as I have no > information on that family other than a picture of Emilie Heyse, my > g-g-grandmother. > > I greatly appreciate any efforts on my behalf. > > Myra Christeck > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Linda, Thanks for the Gentz info, I have a another request if you have the time. Peter Fessler md to Elizabeth Hammes living in Sheboygan or Sheboygan City, WI. Charles or Chas. P. Downie md to Mary Peglow in Waukesha, WI Thanx, Rich F.