Hi!! My Ancestry.com membership has expired and I was wondering if someone out there wouldn't mind doing a lookup from it???. ... The items I'm seeking are as follows: Milwaukee Directory listing for Emma Zipfel, 1889-1890 The 4 WI Census matches for surname Zipfel, 1820-90 Thank you in advance for any help!!! Sincerely, Pam ______________________________________________________ "Changing the World, One Book at a Time. . . . Invest in Our World's Future with FUN books for all ages. . . .. Check out www.UBAH.com/R0094, or www.makereadingfun.com, or www.usborne.com/quicklinks

Catherine Thanks so much for your help Ken in NC Karl & Catherine Rose Schmid wrote: > Hi Ken! > I'm not Bob (by any means-those are big shoes to fill!) but I would like to > offer some advice... > I would consider going to the Milwaukee Historical Society. Their web page > is at: > http://www.milwaukeecountyhistsoc.org/ > Call them, explain what you're looking for, and they'll tell you their > availability. They may also have a few recommendations on what direction to > go in. They are so helpful there! I believe it's a $1 fee if you're not a > member, which is nothing. > The Milwaukee Public Library (downtown on 9th & Wisconsin) has a Humanities > Room full of genealogical resources. I'd consider them, also. > And, I don't know how much time you have, but once you have some basic > information, there's an LDS Family History Center at 9600 W. Grange; their > number is 414-425-4182. They'll have all kinds of films to view of local > churches and cemeteries and their records. > Bob will have more treasures to direct you to; I just wanted to talk up some > of the great resources we have here! > Catherine Rose Schmid > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Wilhelm [mailto:kmwilly@pinehurst.net] > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 4:59 PM > To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WiMilwau] Milwaukee > > Looking for Bob of Brookfield > > Bob > > While lurking on the net I have noted your messages and realize that you > are very knowledgeable of the ins and outs of Milwaukee. I expect to be > in Milwaukee around the 20th of August and would like to do some family > research and could use your advice. > > My father was born in Milwaukee in 1900 and moved to the Detroit in 1926 > and remained there until his death in 1964. His father died in 1910 > while living at 627 Lloyd in Milwaukee and my father and his younger > brother were put into an orphanage at that time. > > My grandfather was born in Davenport, Iowa in 1870 and moved to > Milwaukee ? He married my grandmother in Milwaukee in 1895, ( she > previously lived in Manitowoc), they are both buried in Union station > along with a child that died in his youth. > > * Where do I go for the best source of records.I'll be looking for > census records. > * Do you possibly know where there may be some records as to what > orphanage he may have been sent. > * Is it safe to go into Union cemetery? Are there records kept there? > * Do I need an appointment to visit these places. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Ken in North Carolina > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Hi Listers, According to the book by Carl Baehr the Milwaukee street name Maxine

I was shocked at the news of this too-until I read what's happening. Milwaukee County will no longer reimburse Wauwatosa for lending to non-local borrowers, and will charge Wauwatosa for locals using County libraries. This is from Express News/Wauwatosa, Monday, August 6th: ***** Library Board President Randal J. Brotherhood has contended that the agreement would cost Wauwatosa taxpayers more than $300,000 over the next four years in providing full library services to non-residents. County officials have disputed that figure, but concede that approximately $146,000 would be lost locally... Also, Milwaukee County residents will be able to obtain materials at all libraries through the Interlibrary Loan System. Residents are required to fill out a form and await the arrival of the them - usually at least a week - at their local library. ******** Hope this helps, Catherine Rose Schmid -----Original Message----- From: Dfboeshaar@aol.com [mailto:Dfboeshaar@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 4:56 PM To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WiMilwau] Re: WIMILWAU-D Digest V01 #105 I understand that Wauwautosa in bowing out of the Milwaukee COUNTY library system so my brother living in Wauwautosa will no longer be able to use the Main library for Genealogical research Will the Milwaukee County library system allow NON residents to continue research OR even sell for a relatively (HA HA) small fee the right for Wauwautosa residents continue to use it??? I hope all Wauwautosa residents are up in arms at the tightfisted TOSA council for bowing out of the system THANKS for your time Dave Boeshaar Simi Valley California ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In a message dated 8/12/01 to JQMagie, Shari writes: << John...... Careful with using an address from 1890 and then comparing it to an address of today. Milwaukee re-numbered some or all of their streets in 1930...... Can't help you with any other information.       Shari >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Shari-- you make an important point, and many thanks for your note. Although I think I'm fairly knowledgeable about Milwaukee's changing address systems, even going back to the 1840s (see below my somewhat corrected WiMilwau posting of last January), nevertheless many listers probably aren't very conscious of all this. And frequent reminders, such as yours, are very worthwhile. I don't seem to have any info on the exact date that the old 1865 address system was replaced by the current system. Do you know, Shari, or does anyone else, whether this changeover occurred on some exact date in 1930-- or is 1930 just an approximation? Note (below) that the 1889 and 1890 Milwaukee directories that I quoted (below) gave no street addresses for the Milwaukee Orphan Asylum, but the 1889 directory located it specifically at the NE corner of Prospect and North avenues, and both remain important Milwaukee streets-- and the names of these two streets have probably remained the same since Milwaukee early history. A few days ago, here at my Chicago computer, I noticed that when I switched around the address star (or pointer) on Mapquest's online maps <http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py>, while checking various address guesses of mine, I could calculate the current address of the NE corner of Prospect & North, as roughly 2301 N Prospect Ave-- or 2200 E North Ave. Then I entered these two addresses on Switchboard.com's business "Search by Distance" page <http://www.switchboard.com/bin/cgidir.dll?func=dstsrch> and concluded that possible current occupants of the NE corner of North and Prospect included one or more of the four public service agencies that I listed in my "Milwaukee Orphan Asylum" posting of 8/10/01 (see revised duplicate below). Partly on the basis of kind responses from both Mary Popovich and Ashley Tiwara, one of the first two agencies listed below now seems more likely as a possible successor to the old Milwaukee Orphan Asylum. And to Bob of Brookfield---> where ARE you when I need you?!? My inquiry below now needs your wondrous expertise. ..........John ======================================================== << Subj: Milwaukee Orphan Asylum Date: 8/10/01 10:55:35 PM CDT From: JQMagie@aol.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com __________________________________________________________ http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4749.htm 1889 Milwaukee Directory: Milwaukee Orphan Asylum n. e. corner Prospect avenue and North 1890 Milwaukee Directory: Milwaukee Orphan Asylum corner Prospect and North avs. Harriet Armour (widow M. G.) North avenue, n. w. corner Prospect avenue __________________________________________________________ Before my Ancestry.com 14-Day Trial freebie (see below) expired, I printed out the above Milwaukee directory listings for 1889 and 1890. I have an old family scrapbook that was begun in Milwaukee in the 1850s and that indicates that several ancestors and relatives of mine were very actively involved as officers and donors of the old Milwaukee Orphan Asylum, which appears to have been known as the Protestant Orphan Asylum in the 1870s-- and probably earlier. Like Forest Home Cemetery, it may have had ties to Milwaukee's St. Paul's Episcopal Church Switchboard.com and the Mapquest maps at Yahoo <http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py> suggests that the following agencies are now on or near the 1890 location of the Milwaukee Orphan Asylum. Does anyone know whether this Asylum still exists under some more "politically correct" name? Or is one of these agencies a descendant of this Asylum? (I forget what WIC means): WIC Programs 2220 E North Ave Milwaukee 53202 414-291-0572 Milwaukee Area Health Ctr 2220 E North Ave Milwaukee 53202 414-226-2432 Milwaukee Catholic Home 2330 N Prospect Ave Milwaukee 53211 414-220-8494 Columbia-St Mary's School 2330 N Prospect Ave Milwaukee 53211 414-220-8494 ...........John >> ======================================================== << Subj: [MILWAUKEE CO] City addresses since 1847 Date: 1/4/01 4:02:28 PM CDT From: JQMagie@aol.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com City of Milwaukee ADDRESSES since 1847 from some notes I made about 12 years ago. ...... There seem to have been no radical changes between the first Milwaukee city directory in 1847 and 1865. But during the Civil War, on 1 Jan 1865, Milwaukee's city address system was substantially altered, apparently at the urging of the US Post Office in Washington, DC. And this 1865 system seems to have remained essentially intact until the current system was adopted about 1930. The main Milwaukee Public Library has good info on translating the City of Milwaukee's 1865-ca.1910 addresses into current addresses, but doesn't seem to have much on pre-1865 addresses. But one way of translating 1865 and pre-1865 addresses is through comparing 1865 addresses with those in the previous 1863 directory. Also helpful are late 19th century Milwaukee insurance atlases and the ancient tax assessment volumes (that go back to the 1840s)-- both also at the main Milwaukee Public Library and great (but little-known) supplements to the Milwaukee County Court House deeds. To illustrate changing addresses, see Milwaukee's principal business street in the 19th century--> now called Water St., but formerly known as EAST WATER ST. (present Plankinton Ave. was formerly WEST WATER ST.). In 1864 the present southeast corner of Wisconsin Ave. & Water St. was 188 East Water, but became 399 East Water in 1865 and has been 699 N. Water (or 201 E. Wisconsin) since ca. 1930. My g-g-grandfather Elisha Eldred established a real estate office there in the mid 1840s and, in early 1860 (a few months before his July 22 death), he sold this land to James B. Martin. Erected in late 1860, the ironclad Martin Block (also known as the Iron Block) was prefabricated in New York City and still stands at this corner-- and was recently restored to its old pre-Civil War grandeur. See nice early photo + info at: http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/wi/wi0000/wi0030/photos/170461pv.jpg http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/hh:@band(wi+milwaukee) [Milwaukee building #49 ?] >> ========================================================

One of the lists I am on sent this note around: > > Go to this site http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ to find out what lists > you are on. > > Thought with the heat some of us may be having more than usual numbers of senior moments. Ashley

Hi Ken! I'm not Bob (by any means-those are big shoes to fill!) but I would like to offer some advice... I would consider going to the Milwaukee Historical Society. Their web page is at: http://www.milwaukeecountyhistsoc.org/ Call them, explain what you're looking for, and they'll tell you their availability. They may also have a few recommendations on what direction to go in. They are so helpful there! I believe it's a $1 fee if you're not a member, which is nothing. The Milwaukee Public Library (downtown on 9th & Wisconsin) has a Humanities Room full of genealogical resources. I'd consider them, also. And, I don't know how much time you have, but once you have some basic information, there's an LDS Family History Center at 9600 W. Grange; their number is 414-425-4182. They'll have all kinds of films to view of local churches and cemeteries and their records. Bob will have more treasures to direct you to; I just wanted to talk up some of the great resources we have here! Catherine Rose Schmid -----Original Message----- From: Ken Wilhelm [mailto:kmwilly@pinehurst.net] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 4:59 PM To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WiMilwau] Milwaukee Looking for Bob of Brookfield Bob While lurking on the net I have noted your messages and realize that you are very knowledgeable of the ins and outs of Milwaukee. I expect to be in Milwaukee around the 20th of August and would like to do some family research and could use your advice. My father was born in Milwaukee in 1900 and moved to the Detroit in 1926 and remained there until his death in 1964. His father died in 1910 while living at 627 Lloyd in Milwaukee and my father and his younger brother were put into an orphanage at that time. My grandfather was born in Davenport, Iowa in 1870 and moved to Milwaukee ? He married my grandmother in Milwaukee in 1895, ( she previously lived in Manitowoc), they are both buried in Union station along with a child that died in his youth. * Where do I go for the best source of records.I'll be looking for census records. * Do you possibly know where there may be some records as to what orphanage he may have been sent. * Is it safe to go into Union cemetery? Are there records kept there? * Do I need an appointment to visit these places. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ken in North Carolina ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Looking for Bob of Brookfield Bob While lurking on the net I have noted your messages and realize that you are very knowledgeable of the ins and outs of Milwaukee. I expect to be in Milwaukee around the 20th of August and would like to do some family research and could use your advice. My father was born in Milwaukee in 1900 and moved to the Detroit in 1926 and remained there until his death in 1964. His father died in 1910 while living at 627 Lloyd in Milwaukee and my father and his younger brother were put into an orphanage at that time. My grandfather was born in Davenport, Iowa in 1870 and moved to Milwaukee ? He married my grandmother in Milwaukee in 1895, ( she previously lived in Manitowoc), they are both buried in Union station along with a child that died in his youth. * Where do I go for the best source of records.I'll be looking for census records. * Do you possibly know where there may be some records as to what orphanage he may have been sent. * Is it safe to go into Union cemetery? Are there records kept there? * Do I need an appointment to visit these places. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ken in North Carolina

John, I haven't taken the time to look up the address but I think this is the big white tiled building at North and Prospect, the south east corner. Jalisco is the Mexican restaurant there, and I think the northeast corner is a treatment center for emotionally disturbed children. This could be a descendant of the Orphan Asylum. St. Mary's hospital is one block east. Was there a separate orphan asylum there? I recall vaguely someone associating a children's asylum with that hospital, which I believe is the oldest in Milwaukee. Heiser Ford northwest corner and a gas station southwest corner. WIC = Women, Infants, and Children, a nutrition program for mothers and children with incomes at 5 or 6 thousand dollars a year, so that the children especially don't get ricketts or other nutritional diseases. I assume it is government funded with the intent of eliminating expensive hospital stays by giving children basic nutrition and supplements that the parent couldn't afford and without which the child might end up with serious illnesses. Ashley JQMagie@aol.com wrote: > __________________________________________________________ > > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4749.htm > > 1889 Milwaukee Directory: > Milwaukee Orphan Asylum n. e. corner Prospect avenue and North > > 1890 Milwaukee Directory: > Milwaukee Orphan Asylum corner Prospect and North avs. > Harriet Armour (widow M. G.) North avenue, n. w. corner Prospect avenue > __________________________________________________________ > > Before my Ancestry.com 14-Day Trial freebie (see below) expired, I > printed out the above Milwaukee directory listings for 1889 and 1890. > I have an old family scrapbook that was begun in Milwaukee in the 1850s > and that indicates that several ancestors and relatives of mine were very > actively involved as officers and donors of the old Milwaukee Orphan Asylum, > which appears to have been known as the Protestant Orphan Asylum in the > 1870s-- and probably earlier. Like Forest Home Cemetery, it may have had > ties to Milwaukee's St. Paul's Episcopal Church > Switchboard.com and the Mapquest maps at Yahoo > <http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py> suggests that the following agencies are > now on or near the 1890 location of the Milwaukee Orphan Asylum. Does anyone > know whether this Asylum still exists under some more "politically correct" > name? Or is one of these agencies a descendant of this Asylum? (I forget > what WIC means): > > WIC Programs 2220 E North Ave Milwaukee 53202 414-291-0572 > Milwaukee Area Health Ctr 2220 E North Ave Milwaukee 53202 414-226-2432 > Milwaukee Catholic Home 2330 N Prospect Ave Milwaukee 53211 414-220-8494 > > ...........John > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

__________________________________________________________ http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4749.htm 1889 Milwaukee Directory: Milwaukee Orphan Asylum n. e. corner Prospect avenue and North 1890 Milwaukee Directory: Milwaukee Orphan Asylum corner Prospect and North avs. Harriet Armour (widow M. G.) North avenue, n. w. corner Prospect avenue __________________________________________________________ Before my Ancestry.com 14-Day Trial freebie (see below) expired, I printed out the above Milwaukee directory listings for 1889 and 1890. I have an old family scrapbook that was begun in Milwaukee in the 1850s and that indicates that several ancestors and relatives of mine were very actively involved as officers and donors of the old Milwaukee Orphan Asylum, which appears to have been known as the Protestant Orphan Asylum in the 1870s-- and probably earlier. Like Forest Home Cemetery, it may have had ties to Milwaukee's St. Paul's Episcopal Church Switchboard.com and the Mapquest maps at Yahoo <http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py> suggests that the following agencies are now on or near the 1890 location of the Milwaukee Orphan Asylum. Does anyone know whether this Asylum still exists under some more "politically correct" name? Or is one of these agencies a descendant of this Asylum? (I forget what WIC means): WIC Programs 2220 E North Ave Milwaukee 53202 414-291-0572 Milwaukee Area Health Ctr 2220 E North Ave Milwaukee 53202 414-226-2432 Milwaukee Catholic Home 2330 N Prospect Ave Milwaukee 53211 414-220-8494 ...........John ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Cheryl, Thank you absolutely enormously. Coincidentally, my aunt, Matt's sister Mary, is visiting her daughters and son in Milwaukee. They're actually all from far up north, near Ashland, but Aunty Mary was able to come down with other relatives for a family visit, to these children here, and I know she'll love having a copy of the obit too. I very much appreciate your efforts especially in the heat. Good hunting yourself, Ashley Cheryl Barnett wrote: > Milwaukee Journal 15-Nov-1997 > Matt S. Schaeffer, Sr. > Nov 12, 1997 age 90 years. Beloved husband of Doris. > Dear father of Matt Jr. (Kay), Robert (Rebecca), > Margaret Krueger, Betty (Jim) Novak, Nancy, Barbara, > and JohnnyRay. Preceded in death by Dolores and > William. Further survived by grandchildren, great > grandchildren, great great grandchildren, nieces, > nephews, other relatives, and friends. Fond brother of > Mary Grubisic and Helen Burtch. Funeral Services Sun. > 7PM at Schaff Funeral Home. Visitation Sun 4PM until > time of service. Interment Mon 10AM at Highland > Memorial Cemetary. > Schaff Funeral Home 5920 W. Lincoln Ave. 541-7533 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

Milwaukee Journal 15-Nov-1997 Matt S. Schaeffer, Sr. Nov 12, 1997 age 90 years. Beloved husband of Doris. Dear father of Matt Jr. (Kay), Robert (Rebecca), Margaret Krueger, Betty (Jim) Novak, Nancy, Barbara, and JohnnyRay. Preceded in death by Dolores and William. Further survived by grandchildren, great grandchildren, great great grandchildren, nieces, nephews, other relatives, and friends. Fond brother of Mary Grubisic and Helen Burtch. Funeral Services Sun. 7PM at Schaff Funeral Home. Visitation Sun 4PM until time of service. Interment Mon 10AM at Highland Memorial Cemetary. Schaff Funeral Home 5920 W. Lincoln Ave. 541-7533 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

Does anyone know a Barbara Miller; parents Herbert and June Miller; lived at one time around 1950's on 33rd Street near Clybourn. I believe Barbara's brother was Phillip. Thanks, Barbara in North Carolina

<<Please note that there is an alphabetical index (available on microfilm) to the Milwaukee County portion of the Wisconsin state census of 1905.>> Is this index available via Inter-Library Loan? Or do I have to visit an FHL to view it? Cheryl __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

Wards are created by the city and they would probably be the same from 1905 to 1910. However, enumeration districts are created for the federal census, which is taken in years ending in 0. Enumeration district were not used by the state, which initiated the censuses that were taken in years ending in 5. Just go by the ward number. Please note that there is an alphabetical index (available on microfilm) to the Milwaukee County portion of the Wisconsin state census of 1905. Mary Popovich Busia's Roots Professional Genealogy

Can anyone tell me if the census enumeration districts and wards for 1905 Milwaukee census are the same as those used in the 1910 census? Thank you, Ned Schimminger, just outside Niagara Falls

I cannot say-I know I was most frustrated that the 1905 state census does NOT give the address of the person. I searched for HOURS looking for my family, and was lucky enough to find them. (They were not listed in the city directory at that time.) The district I found them in was NOT the same district they were in in 1910; but I do not know if the address was different. Maybe someone else can shed more light on this... Catherine Rose Schmid Researching Wasilewski/Wasielewski, Turzynski/Turzinski, Freitag, Czarkowski -----Original Message----- From: Nedschim@aol.com [mailto:Nedschim@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 3:08 PM To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WiMilwau] 1905 census ED's Can anyone tell me if the census enumeration districts and wards for 1905 Milwaukee census are the same as those used in the 1910 census? Thank you, Ned Schimminger, just outside Niagara Falls ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Most Polish people from the South Side (12th Avenue would be South Side) were buried at St. Adalbert's Cemetery. What is the nearest cross-street or the house number? Knowing their exact address would focus on what parish they belonged to (St. Vincent de Paul, St. Adalbert, Ss. Cyril & Methodius). The death register for the parish would probably list the cemetery, and possibly the funeral home. BTW, I have pretty much all of the Polish parish records of Milwaukee (pre-1920) on microfilm. Mary Popovich Busia's Roots, Professional Genealogy

Try contacting the Register of Deeds Office at the courthouse. They can check the grantee index and should be able to come up with the legal description of the land and from whom it was purchased (grantor). They can also search the grantor index, which would then cross-reference to whom your grandfather sold the land (grantee). Be sure to give them approximate dates for purchase and sale (no more than a 5-year range for each). These records would also indicate if the property passed to another through inheritance rather than sale, which could then lead you to probate records. I presume there would be a fee for this information, but I don't know what that fee would be. Here's their website with contact information: http://www.co.milwaukee.wi.us/depart/d-regd.htm Mary Popovich Busia's Roots, Professional Genealogy

Hello, Anybody researching the BRIXIUS family either in and around Milwaukee or Manitowoc Wisconsin?? Pat Hamilton hamilton@wi.net