Thanks for the information. Someone wrote that the LDS filmed the records so since I have quite a few to look up (!) It would probably be best to order the microfilm, unless there are rolls and rolls of it! Thanks for your note. So far, I haven't found any of my Jaegers that went to St Paul, MN and lived there, but I'll keep that information in mind. Thanks so much! Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich and Susan Fellie" <RSFellie@email.msn.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] Holy Cross Cemetery-transcription > Barb, > > You can also write them for information, I've received some good info from > them on my ancestors, they do charge for Genealogy services, the first 3 > names are free and after that its $5.00 for every name after that. > > Holy Cross Cemetery > 7301 W. Nash St. > Milwaukee, WI 53216 > (414)438-4420 > > Also, my wife's grandfather was a Jaeger and I believe he live his whole > life in St. Paul, MN but haven't started working on that line. > > Rich Fellie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barb Thomas" <bthomas@wport.com> > To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 3:54 PM > Subject: [WiMilwau] Holy Cross Cemetery-transcription > > > > Hello, > > Does anyone know if there is a transcription available for the > > Holy Cross Cemetery and if so the author/publisher of this > > item? Thanks very much. > > Barb > > Bothell, WA > > > > > > ============================== > > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > > If you know how to reduce these risks. > > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > > > > > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

Hello, I am looking for any information available on Adam Belter who lived at 766 on 6th Ave. (as of the 1900 census). If I am reading the census records correctly, he was about 46 years old on the census date and may have been an infant when he immigrated(sp?). He lived with his wife Mary (last name unknown) and his thirteen (13) children. Any information would be greatly appreciated. -- Paul K. Sulkowski Toll Free Fax/ V-Mail 1-866-226-1025 http://home.wwdb.org/sulkowskip/

Hello Listers, Before going to the County Courthouse, I rented the LDS film and have a list of KNUTH index numbers with DOB from 1919 to 1932, if any of them would help any person. Louise Ft Laud

I am looking for anyone that remember a teacher/vice principal of Peckham Jr. High School from at least 1934 -1944. She was unmarried but thought there might be some relatives or former students. She died in 1972 in Milwaukee and lived at 2108 N. 51 st. Lenora from Wisconsin

I suspect Bob of Brookfield, who is a Lutheran minister, may already know more about all this than I'll ever know. But I've just become curious as to why "Deaconess" is included in the title of so many hospitals and related institutions throughout the USA. I just quickly checked the Internet and didn't find much on this. But it seems that among Protestants-- especially German Evangelicals and Lutherans-- non-monastic "deaconesses" have, since the early 19th century at least, assumed much of the ancient role of Roman Catholic nuns, especially in the tending to the sick and the poor. I suspect that the ca. 1900 Deaconess orphanage mentioned by Pam is not necessarily the predecessor of the more modern Evangelical Deaconess Hospital that Gordon says was formerly located at 16th St. and W. Wisconsin Ave. Also, both are probably unrelated to the old Milwaukee Orphan Asylum (at North & Prospect streets)-- which, like Forest Home Cemetery (where Bob often spooks living visitors), seems to have had ancient ties to St. Paul's Episcopal Church. Finally, to Pam, etc., PLEASE check out the Milwaukee street maps at, for example, http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py -- there you'll see that Prospect and 16th don't intersect. ........ John (in Chicago) Now I must get ready to drive up to Milwaukee's IrishFest, the world's BEST and biggest annual Celtic gathering. There you'll also see lots of local color-- but you can usually identify these folks, who frequently try to balance large chunks of cheese on their heads while stumbling around guzzling Sprecher's Oktoberfest (in August??), Cream City Ale, Hamms, Miller's Red Dog, or Pabst Blue Ribbon (instead of Guinness Stout, Harp Lager, or Bud Lite. Finally, to Pam, etc., PLEASE check out the Milwaukee street maps at, for example, http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py -- there you'll see that Prospect and 16th don't intersect. ........ John (in Chicago) PS: the old 1880s home (razed?) of famed brewer Frederick Pabst that I said yesterday was at 828 Chestnut should be translated (according to Milwaukee's post-1929 address system) as about 828 W. Juneau Ave. ============================================ http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04651a.htm The CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA says the following: << Outside the Catholic Church the name of deaconesses has been adopted for a modern revival which has had great vogue in Germany and to some extent in the United States. It was begun in 1833 by the Lutheran pastor Fliedner at Kaiserswerth near Düsseldorf. His first inspiration is said to have been derived from the Quakeress Elizabeth Fry, and through the celebrated Miss Florence Nightingale, who organized a staff of nurses in the Crimean War and who had previously been trained at Kaiserswerth, the revival at a later date attracted a good deal of attention in England. The main work of deaconesses is the tending of the sick and poor, instruction and district visiting, but with more subordination to parish needs than is usually compatible with the life of an Anglican sisterhood. In the United States more particularly, community life is usually not insisted upon, but a good deal of attention is given to training and intellectual development. >> =============================================

I was born at the hospital you are discussing. It was called the Evangelical Deaconess Hospital.

Barb, Let us know the first names. I have a couple of Jaeger listings in the index of "The History of Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1881"....Oswald and Wilhelmina...and there is a John P, spelled Jager. Maxine At 12:56 PM 8/17/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Anyone out there researching the JAEGER surname, Milwaukee area late >1800s-now? >Thanks >Barb >Bothell, WA > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB Maxine Capezza

Barb, You can also write them for information, I've received some good info from them on my ancestors, they do charge for Genealogy services, the first 3 names are free and after that its $5.00 for every name after that. Holy Cross Cemetery 7301 W. Nash St. Milwaukee, WI 53216 (414)438-4420 Also, my wife's grandfather was a Jaeger and I believe he live his whole life in St. Paul, MN but haven't started working on that line. Rich Fellie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb Thomas" <bthomas@wport.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 3:54 PM Subject: [WiMilwau] Holy Cross Cemetery-transcription > Hello, > Does anyone know if there is a transcription available for the > Holy Cross Cemetery and if so the author/publisher of this > item? Thanks very much. > Barb > Bothell, WA > > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > >

LDS has microfilmed Holy Cross cem. in Milwaukee Lenora from Wisconsin

Deconess Hospital was on 16th and Wisconsin gordon Jim Schoettler wrote: > I remember as a child in Milwaukee, there was a Deaconess Hospital downtown. > Could this have been it? > > Lori > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

I remember as a child in Milwaukee, there was a Deaconess Hospital downtown. Could this have been it? Lori

____________________________________________________________ <<Subj: Re: [WiMilwau] Milwaukee Orphan Asylum Date: 8/17/01 1:31:10 AM Central Daylight Time From: pgosl@ev1.net (Pamela J. Gosling) Reply-to: pgosl@ev1.net (Pamela J. Gosling) To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Hi John, I do have another question for you if you don't mind. . . .was this the only Milwaukee Orphan Asylum ?? According to another lister, the address my Grandmother was living at was an orphan asylum, but a different address?? (I don't have in front of me, but was maybe 15th ST??, namely "Deaconess House", they though affiliated with the Lutheran church?? Is Prospect anywhere near this area?? Or any other information you would know about either of these places would be helpful. If you need the more specific address I can look for it tomorrow. . . Thanks again. Pam >> ____________________________________________________________ Pam-- many thanks for your nice off-list and on-list memos this morning. I don't have much on Milwaukee orphanages and related institutions. Also, because you didn't say in what time period you're mostly interested, it's hard to make good suggestions. But I'd guess that there's many Milwaukee info sources that should be able to answer your special questions above. I've never tried this, but you might first consider e-mailing a few questions to the Milwaukee County Historical Society <mchs@execpc.com>, assuming you don't live near Milwaukee. Also, if you are focused primarily on the pre-1891 period, perhaps someone could check the wonderful Milwaukee Sentinel Index that I've mentioned several times on this list. This Index is on thousands of index cards located in the second floor reading room of the main Milwaukee Public Library. When I'm doing research in Milwaukee (very little lately), I find I'm constantly referring to this Index. ONLY the main Public Library has this-- which is partly why I prefer to do Milwaukee research mostly at the main Public Library, rather than at the Historical Society and other libraries. The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee has a great map collection, and the Historical Society has a great photo collection. But, for someone doing their own library research, I feel the Public Library offers more resources-- and also has MUCH more generous library hours. I see that when anyone activates this 1889-90 Milwaukee Directory URL: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4749.htm -- and then searches for an address (rather than a personal name), Ancestry.com says that they have 7 directory listings for 1315 Cherry, 7 for 1328 Cherry, and 6 for 1229 Cherry-- while entering "Deaconess" yields zero results. All seven of the 1315 Cherry listings are repeated below, while clearly almost all of the residents (or businesses) at the other two addresses are not listed under Zipfel. These other addresses might just be boarding houses occupied by unrelated people. But perhaps a regular Ancestry.com subscriber would be willing to send you the other listings for these two Cherry Street addresses. Some or all of these listings could well be for relatives of yours. I have copies that some sections of a 1858 Milwaukee map that show that the 13th & Cherry area (part of the 9th Ward) was rather densely populated even as long ago as the 1850s. Looks like this was primarily a German area in the late 19th century. And I noticed some time ago that in 1891 several mansions (no longer standing) of the Uihlein family-- then owners of the Schlitz brewery-- were located just east of this area, near 4th & Galena streets. Also, I noted that in 1891 Frederick Pabst, another famous German brewer name, was still living nearby at 828 Chestnut St., even though his mansion still located at 20th & West Wisconsin may then have been under construction (see http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5259.htm). ........John (in Chicago). PS: note that Prospect Ave. runs along the Lake Michigan shore and extends northeasterly away from downtown Milwaukee. It is also east of the Milwaukee River, while 15th and other numbered streets are north-south streets that are all west of the Milwaukee River.

Anyone out there researching the JAEGER surname, Milwaukee area late 1800s-now? Thanks Barb Bothell, WA

Hello, Does anyone know if there is a transcription available for the Holy Cross Cemetery and if so the author/publisher of this item? Thanks very much. Barb Bothell, WA

Hello Listers, Before I went to the Milw. Courthouse, I rented the Milw. Birth Index and prelooked up some numbers for surnames I was pursuing. I have the Index numbers and DOB for DIETRICH (single spelling) from 1860 to 1892--if anyone's interested. Louise Ft Lauderdale

Hi John, I do have another question for you if you don't mind. . . .was this the only Milwaukee Orphan Asylum ?? According to another lister, the address my Grandmother was living at was an orphan asylum, but a different address?? (I don't have in front of me, but was maybe 15th ST??, namely "Deaconess House", they though affiliated with the Lutheran church?? Is Prospect anywhere near this area?? Or any other information you would know about either of these places would be helpful. If you need the more specific address I can look for it tomorrow. . . Thanks again. Pam ______________________________________________________

John, I hope this helps you identify the founders and location of the Milwaukee Orphan Asylum. In a small pamphlet entitled In and Around Milwaukee 1883 (published by S. Chapman, 124 Grand Avenue), the following "Benevolent Societies" are listed: St. Vincent's Orphan Asylum, under the charge of the Sisters of Charity - a foundling hospital- 407 Virginia Street, south side. Milwaukee Orphan Asylum, under the direction of a board of lady managers, 350 Division Street, on the lake shore. St. Joseph's Orphan Asylum, (Catholic) 469 Jackson Street Church Home, Protestant Episcopel, an asylum for old ladies, 640 Cass Street Milwaukee Industrial School, Lake Avenue, North Point. It takes charge of the young and friendless without regard to religious denomination. St. Mary's Asylum. Patients of all denominations received, Lake Street and North Avenue, First Ward. In the book Milwaukee The History of a City by Bayrd Still Chapter 10, page 237 the following benevolent societies are listed as existing in the 1860's: Milwaukee Hospital, founded by Dr. W. A. Passavant in 1863 St. Mary's Hospital St. Rose's Orphan Asylum Milwaukee Orphan Asylum, established by the Ladies' Benevolent Society and partly subsidized by the council Home of the Friendless, opened in 1867 Hebrew Relief Society, founded 1867 Union Bethel Mission societies Hope this helps, Mary

Pam, etc.-- I've frankly held back on answering some of your postings in the hopes that you would eventually reduce or stop the apparent advertising that seems to be added to the to bottom of all your WiMilwau postings. Whether it's technically SPAM, I don't really know. And I guess I don't really care all that much one way or the other. I personally have found an almost overwhelming amount of valuable historical and genealogical info on the rapidly growing mass of databases that Ancestry.com keeps placing online. Although I still prefer freebies and dislike bill paying, I expect I'll soon get around finally to subscribing to Ancestry (actually quite a bargain, I think, and for me at least), rather than depending on Ancestry's occasional free trials-- and also, to be candid, devising schemes that formerly succeeded almost flawlessly in skirting around their security checkpoints. Even Senior Citizens, like myself, can enjoy the challenge of some occasional computer hacking. Sadly, Ancestry's security has been getting more sophisticated lately-- and finally paying the piper would probably be a nice gesture on my part anyway. But, in the meantime, I seem to almost totally excluded from Ancestry.com's databases. However, I have just succeeded, probably very temporarily, in accessing the following ZIPFEL info from Ancestry's online Milwaukee directories of 1889 and 1890. My guess is that these Cherry St. addresses haven't changed much since the 1860s, except that (even though there is probably no East Cherry St.) the 1890 home of John Zipfel might now be 1229 West Cherry St. Cherry St., is an east-west street that is one block north of Vliet St. and less than a mile north of Wisconsin Ave. Unfortunately I wasn't able to check the various Cherry Street addresses below to locate people with other surnames who might live there-- something I formerly could do very easily. Also, even though Ancestry has very little post-1860 census data for Wisconsin, I can't now seem to get back into data. Also, below I'm adding some STREESE info that I downloaded for you a few weeks ago when I had total access to almost all of Ancestry's databases. I then forgot all about this download, but fortunately had retained it on a floppy disk. .........John =================================================== http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4749.htm Milwaukee directories for 1889+1990: 147772 listings for businesses + heads of household (about 72176 for 1889, plus about 75596 for 1890) Milwaukee Directory: Alfred G. Wright, 1889 Milwaukee Directory: Alfred G. Wright, 1890 1889 Milwaukee Directory (records 71889-71892): Charles Zipfel boxmkr r. 1315 Cherry. John Zipfel molder r. 1328 Cherry. Kasimir Zipfel r. 1315 Cherry. Wm. Zipfel hostler r. 1315 Cherry. 1890 Milwaukee Directory (records 147556-147561): Casimere Zipfel shoemaker r. 1315 Cherry. Charles Zipfel boxmkr r. 1315 Cherry. Emma Zipfel millinery Green Bay road, Town Milwaukee. [no residence listed for Emma (wife of John??)] Frederick Zipfel laborer r. 1315 Cherry. John Zipfel molder r. 1229 Cherry. William Zipfel molder r. 1315 Cherry. =================================================== http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/3581.htm 1860 STREESE WILLIAM Sauk County WI p. 524 Dellona Federal Census Index WI456183044 ____________________________________ Wisconsin Marriages, pre-1907 http://ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4997.htm Wisconsin Marriages, pre-1907 Viewing records 1-5 of 5 Matches Name Marriage Date County Volume Page Alma Streese 19 Nov 1896 Calumet 02 0159 Alma Streese 07 Apr 1894 Maitowoc 04 0322 Doretha Streese 09 Jan 1897 Maitowoc 04 0489 Mathilde Streese 03 Dec 1878 Jefferson 02 0477 Wilhelm A Streese 31 Jul 1882 Oconto 01 0235 ================================================== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Subj: [WiMilwau] New Surname posting Date: 8/14/01 2:14:23 AM Central Daylight Time From: pgosl@ev1.net (Pamela J. Gosling) To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Hi all, Just got a copy of my Grandmother's SS application with her mother's name of Emma Zipfel. ANY information anyone would have regarding Zipfel's in Milwaukee would be appreciated!! I found a Jack born 1828 in Milwaukee and an Emma Christened 1868 in Baden Germany, but those are the only leads I have so far. . . . Thanks so much!! Pam _____________________________________________ "Changing the World, One Book at a Time. . . . Invest in Our World's Future with FUN books for all ages. . . .. Check out www.UBAH.com/R0094, or www.makereadingfun.com, or www.usborne.com/quicklinks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Subj: [WiMilwau] Ancestry.com lookup Date: 8/14/01 2:14:32 AM Central Daylight Time From: pgosl@ev1.net (Pamela J. Gosling) To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Hi!! My Ancestry.com membership has expired and I was wondering if someone out there wouldn't mind doing a lookup from it???. ... The items I'm seeking are as follows: Milwaukee Directory listing for Emma Zipfel, 1889-1890 The 4 WI Census matches for surname Zipfel, 1820-90 Thank you in advance for any help!!! Sincerely, Pam _____________________________________________ "Changing the World, One Book at a Time. . . . Invest in Our World's Future with FUN books for all ages. . . .. Check out www.UBAH.com/R0094, or www.makereadingfun.com, or www.usborne.com/quicklinks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Subj: [WiMilwau] Marriage Lookup? > Date: 7/26/01 12:48:33 AM Central Daylight Time > From: pgosl@ev1.net (Pamela J. Gosling) > To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > > Is there someone on the list going to the courthouse soon to look up > records soon that would > be willing to do a additional lookup?? > > The name would be Wilhelm Streese, marriage date of 31 July 1882, Oconto > County, Volume 1, Page 0235. .. > > Thank you in advance for any help. > > Sincerely, Pam > __________________________________________ > "Changing the World, One Book at a Time. . . . > Invest in Our World's Future with FUN books for all ages. . . .. > Check out www.UBAH.com/R0094, > or www.makereadingfun.com, or www.usborne.com/quicklinks > > __________________________________________ > "Changing the World, One Book at a Time. . . . > Invest in Our World's Future with FUN books for all ages. . . .. > Check out www.UBAH.com/R0094, > or www.makereadingfun.com, or www.usborne.com/quicklinks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ==================================================

Hi Listers, According to the book by Carl Baehr the Milwaukee street names were changed in the 1920's and the changes were complete by 1930. Maxine

Hi all, Just got a copy of my Grandmother's SS application with her mother's name of Emma Zipfel. ANY information anyone would have regarding Zipfel's in Milwaukee would be appreciated!! I found a Jack born 1828 in Milwaukee and an Emma Christened 1868 in Baden Germany, but those are the only leads I have so far. . . . Thanks so much!! Pam ______________________________________________________ "Changing the World, One Book at a Time. . . . Invest in Our World's Future with FUN books for all ages. . . .. Check out www.UBAH.com/R0094, or www.makereadingfun.com, or www.usborne.com/quicklinks