There is a very interesting article about Forest Home Cemetery, Milwaukee, in the October issue of Wisconsin Trails magazine. It contains four pages of color pictures along with the article. In the article,it refers to a book by John Gurda titled, "Silent City: The Story of Forest Home Cemetery". This is where our friend "Bob from Brookfield" donates his time on Fridays. Contact the magazine at www.wistrails.com or call 1-800-877-5280 Bill Haines Laguna Hills, Ca.

Do any of you know of a Lutheran Cemetery in Hales Corners? I have a gg-grandfather who's burial site is listed as "Lutheran Burial at Hales Corners" which could be in a Lutheran cemetery, interfaith cemetery or perhaps just on his property. (According to the census, he was a farmer in Greenfield so I guess he could've been buried on the farm.) Thanks. Angela in NZ -----Original Message----- From: WIMILWAU-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:WIMILWAU-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:02 PM To: WIMILWAU-D@rootsweb.com Subject: WIMILWAU-D Digest V01 #113

DEAR ALL Trying desperately to trace what happened to my g-g-uncle Alfred Christian (son of George and Sarah Christian b. 1880 Shepherd's Bush London). It seems he got into a spot of bother here in the UK and built a new life in the US. The only clue we have as to where he was is a portrait photograph taken in Milwaukee circa 1910. Although he had a wife and children in London, the legend goes that he also had a family in the US. Can anyone help? Many thanks DEBORA in LONDON, UK

Next page re: Orphanages ST. ROSA'S FEMALE ORPHAN ASYLUM This asylum was established May 9, 1848, by Right Rev. J. M. Henni, hen Bishop of Milwaukee, assisted by the Catholic population of the city and the diocese. The Asylum is supported chiefly by the contributions of English-speaking Catholics. Donations are sometimes received from other sources but excepting the appropriations received at intervals from the State and County, they have never been aided materially in the support of the institution. The earnings of the children amount on an average to $50 per month. The institution was chartered according to the laws of the State of Wisconsin, on the 6th of December, 1850, and went into operation (as a corporate body) February 18, 1851. Its object is the support of destitute female orphan children, chiefly and principally of the Catholic faith, who reside in the city and diocese; but real objects of charity of other denominations or more distant places, are never refused the shelter of the asylum. ST. JOSEPH'S ASYLUM In 1861 St. Joseph's Asylum was opened as a branch of the former, its object being the support and maintenance of destitute female orphan children. This house is designated especially for the younger children between the ages of two and ten years. Both institutions are under the same management. They have no fund, but are supported by contributions from the public, fairs, and an annual picnic. the capacity of the two houses is 150, and they are always full. the present number if 151

You probably don't want to know about the follow up to aunt marrying the stepfather's brother so delete this quick. Again from the PA state wide list. Ashley P. S. I promise, no more. William & Linda Simmons wrote: > I'm My own Grampa > > Back in the early days of radio in the thirties. I had a very successful > group called the Jesters performing three nights a week on NBC. Our > specialty was Novelty songs and bits of spoken humor. In rading a book of > anecdotes and sayings by Mark twain. I came across a parqagraph wherein he > proved it was possible for a man to become his own grandpa by a certain > sucession of events beginning with the premise that if he married a widow > with a grown up daughter and his father married the daughter, > etc...etc...etc...He would eventually become his own grandpa. > The idea seemed so funny to repeat on the air,and sure enough, the response > was very good. Later Moe Jaffe and I decided to expand the basic idea and > set it as a song > Dwight Latham > > I'm My Own Grandpa > > by Dwight Latham and Moe Jaffe > > Many, Many years ago when I was twenty three > I was married to a widow who was pretty as can be > This widow had a grown-up Daughter who had hair of red > My Father fell in love with her and soon they, too were wed > > This made my Dad my Son In Law and changed my very life > For my Daughter was my Mother, cause she was my Father's Wife. > To complicate the matter, even though it brought me joy > I soon became the Father of a bouncing baby boy. > > My little baby then became a Brother In Law to Dad > and so became my Uncle, though it made me very sad > For if he was my Uncle, then that also made him Brother > of the widow's grown-up Daughter, who, of course, was my Step-Mother > > I'm my own Grandpa, I'm my own Grandpa > It sounds funny I know, but it really is so > Oh. I'm my own Grandpa > > Father's Wife then had a Son, who kept them on the run > And he became my Grand-Child, for he was my Daughter's Son > My Wife is now my Mother's Mother, and it makes me blue > Because, although she is my Wife, She's my Grandmother too. > > Now, If my Wife is my Grandmother, Then I am her Grandchild > And everytime I think of it, It nearly drives me wild > For now I have become the strangest case you ever saw > As Husband of my Grandmother, I am my own Grandpa. > > Copyright 1947 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy DeGennaro" <degennaro2@prodigy.net> > To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:50 PM > Subject: Re: [PA] Family > > > Hi Mary... > > > > All I could think of is a song from a very, very long time ago called "I'm > > My Own Grandpa". I think that was the title of it but it was a funny > song. > > Does anyone remember who/what or when that song played? I'm probably > > really dating myself. Oh well. > > > > J. > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > Don't be afraid to ask questions. > There are no dumb questions on this list. > >

This extremely interesting story I thought was of enough general interest to be forwarded to you. I thought I had enough trouble with my trees with a few double marriages and 14 children families: imagine trying to diagram this one below. It's from the PA statewide list at Rootsweb. Ashley Mary Baier wrote: > this happened in my family;; > My grandmother was widowed with several children, she married my > grandfather. > thus my mother was born. > My aunt (Half sister to my mother) married her step fathers brother. > Thus becoming my mothers aunt, and my grandmother became sister-in-law > to her daughter, Oh! what a mess of relationships was started I do not > pretend to get them all. > > But one day I had taken my Uncle to visit my aunt at the Hospital and > some of their friends came in and Auntie said "have your mett my neice > " and introduced me, > Then Uncle being hard of hearing said"Have you meet my Neice" > they looked at him then her and said "Whose neice is she" they both said > mine. > > The people then looked at me to get this straight, They left there that > day saying that they had never heard of such. It sure messed up > relationships in our family > By the way this marriage lasted for 74 years, both were in their 90's > when they died. > > Mary > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the new Mid-Atlantic Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

________________________________________________________________ MILWAUKEE ORPHANAGES-- or all that JQM could find in the online Milwaukee city directories of 1889 & 1890: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4749.htm http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1890milwauwi&gs=asylum 1889: Home of the Friendless 380 Van Buren -- [orphanage?] -- [est. 1867] Milwaukee Orphan Asylum n. e. corner Prospect avenue and North -- [est. 1850] St. Aemilianus Orphan Asylum [unlisted, probably because it was still in St. Francis, WI] -- [est. 1854] St. Rose Orphan Asylum n. w. corner Lake and North avs** -- [est. 1852?] St. Vincent Infant Asylum s. w. corner 3d and Greenfield avs -- [est. 1877] Wisconsin Industrial School for Girls Lake avenue, North Point -- [orphanage?] 1890: Home of the Friendless 378 Van Buren [orphanage?] Milwaukee Orphan Asylum corner Prospect and North avs St. Rose's Orphan Asylum n. w. corner Lake and North avs** St. Vincent's Orphan Asylum s. w. corner 3d and Greenfield avs Wisconsin Industrial School for Girls Lake avenue North Point -- [orphanage?] [** across the street from St. Mary's Hospital, which formerly was mostly at the northeast corner of North and Lake avenues] ________________________________________________________________ Many thanks from John to Bob of Brookfield and Catherine Schmidt for your new info today on old Milwaukee orphanages. Thanks also to the related on-list contributions of Mary Popovich and others last week-- plus some important off-list info I've recently received from another Mary---> at tepalmer@execpc.com And, in an off-list 8/23/01 note to me, Maxine Capezza kindly pointed out the very helpful article on the Milwaukee Orphan Asylum that appears on page 990 of A. T. Andreas' 1881 HISTORY OF MILWAUKEE (Western Historical Publishing Co.). I just noticed this note of Maxine, and I'll soon thank her for this privately. But FIRST I want to point out to Bob that Maxine's note included an attached JPG image of the first page of this 1881 Western Historical article on the Milwaukee Orphan Asylum-- and this text is identical to the article that you quoted earlier today-- apparently in its entirety. So it looks like we now know the source of your quote-- to which historians Bruce and Gregory may also have referred. I also especially want to point out this now: the likely reason that the St. Aemilian (or "St. Aemilianus") Orphan Asylum, a Catholic organization founded ca. 1854, does not appear in the 1889 and 1890 Milwaukee directories (below) is that it was NOT then in Milwaukee. Apparently it was still located (to the south) in the Milwaukee suburb of St. Francis-- and apparently close to the old Franciscan Seminary there. Mary <at tepalmer@execpc.com> kindly told me about this. It appears to me that St. Aemilian's is a spin-off what became its female counterpart: St. Rose (founded ca. 1852?). Apparently St. Aemilian's absorbed the Milwaukee Orphan Asylum several decades ago. And I'm intrigued that apparently two of the three oldest Milwaukee-area orphanages still seem to survive in some form: St. Aemilian's and St. Rose's. I haven't yet contacted either of these organizations-- but Switchboard.com says that St. Aemilian-Lakeside Inc. is at 8901 W. Capitol Dr., Milwaukee, WI 53222 (phone: 414-463-1880) -- and St. Rose appears to be nearby on the same campus. Page 990 in the 1881 Milwaukee history is significant to me and my family because it confirms that my g-g-grandmother Mrs. Elisha Eldred (1802-1879) and one of her in-laws, Mrs. Eliza LaDue, were among the founders of the Milwaukee Orphan Asylum in 1849-1850. But what's much more important is that all the above may lead us to archived records of many early Milwaukee orphans. Perhaps some nice lister-residents of metro Milwaukee could check out some of the above. Probably most of this could be done via local phone calls. ........John (in Chicago) ============================================================ << Subj: Re: [WIMilwau] St. Aemilians + Milwaukee Orphan Asylum Date: 8/23/01 2:28:10 AM Central Daylight Time From: busia@mindspring.com (Mary Popovich) Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com .......Both St. Rose's and St. Aemillians's were likely staffed by Catholic nuns. Most Catholic religious orders have a member who serves as an archivist/historian for the order, and might be able to answer general questions about the founding and history of an orphanage. St. Joseph's orphanage in Milwaukee was staffed by Felician Sisters and St. Vincent's by the Sisters of Charity of St. Vincent de Paul (the ones who used to have the huge white headdresses). However, I don't know which order(s) staffed St. Rose and/or St. Aemillian. Anyone out there have further information? Perhaps someone located in Milwaukee could contact the Chancery Office, which could provide information on who ran the orphanages and the address(es) of the appropriate Motherhouse. If the Protestant Orphan Asylum was affiliated with the Episcopal Church in Milwaukee (or St. Paul's Parish [founded 1838] as someone noted), perhaps the Episcopal Chancery Office would have information in its records. Episcopal Diocese of Milwaukee, 804 E. Juneau Ave., Milwaukee, WI 53202. Phone (414) 272-3028 Mary Popovich >> ============================================================

Re: Orphanages. As I have time on Friday's I am going through the volumes of history to look up information re: this subject. I do not have a lot of time to do this because of people stopping in, calling in plus the many inquiries I find on the Internet as I did not write down things like this as I read the volumes, only names and pages. Wish I had now because of the many requests for companies, churches, organizations, etc. In Watrous' 1st volume I found this: "In the Spring of 1908 the St. Joseph's Orphanage Asylum, situated at the corner of Thirteenth and Euclid avenues, at the souther extremeties of the city was opened. This institution is conducted by the Felician Sisters f Detroit. At present seventy Polish orphan boys find a home and shelter within the walls of this instutition." In another I found (and shame on me - I forgot to write down which volume it was found in but looks like one of Gregory's volumes or Bruce's). Will look it up Friday if anyone at all is truly interested. "MILWAUKEE ORPHAN ASYLUM The origin of this institution dates back over thrity years, the asylum being the outgrowth of the Ladies" Benevolent Society of Milwaukee. On January 4, 1850, the ladies met at the home of Mrs. S. B. Grant, and organized the Miwlaukee Protestant Orphan Asylum, adopted a constitution, and elected officers. At the expiration of a month, a house was rented, a matron engaged, and soon the building was furnished. Although entire dependence was placed upon voluntary subscriptions, fifty cents from ladies and five dollars from entelmen, at the end of the first year twenty-three children had been maintained. The next year the Board were much encouraged by the donation of a lot on Marshall street, valued at $1,000 by Mrs. William P. Young. But June, 1853, a building costing over $4,500 has been erected on this ground, and occupied by the asylum. ... The first Board of Trustees being: Mrs. G. P. Hewitt, First Directoress; Mrs. B. Mc Vickar, Second Directoress; Ms. M. B. Taylor, Secretary, Mr. Alexander Mitchell, treasurer; Mrs. Thomas P. Williams, Mrs. Elisha Eldred, Mrs. E. LaDue, Mrs. Wm. P. Lynde, Mrs. Wm. H. Byron, Mrs. G. Bonnell, Mrs. H. P. Peck, Mrs Joseph Cary, Mrs. E. D. Holton, Mrs. P. C. Hale, Mrs. Jas. H. Rogers, Mrs. John Hustis, Mrs. S. Grant, Mrs. A. F. Clark, Mrs. A. D. Smith, Mrs. Daniel Wells, Mrs. J. P. Greves, Mrs. L. Kennedy, Mrs. H. Bosworth, Mrs. Wm. P. Young, Mrs. C. Arnold, Mrs. O. H. Waldo, Mrs. Mc Dougall and Mrs. M. W. Clark, Managers. The property was vested in the officers and managaers. A Board of Counsellors and the office of Auditor was also created, to be filled by gentlemen. The building on Marshall street was, from time to time, enlarged, until the lot became uncomfortably crowded. In the Spring of 1869, the residence of Wallace Pratt, at the head od Division street, with a large plat of ground, was puchased for $15,000. The nexzt year the Marshall-=street property was sold for $6,000, the $3,000 mortgage on the Platt purchase paid off, and the association started freee of debt. Subject to the provision that i should be occupied with two years, the Common Countil of 1860 donated four and three-quarters acres of land, near St. Mary's Hospital, to the orphan Asylum. ... With few exceptions, the asylum as been upheld and strengthened by private effort. Among whose who have been permanently identified with the institution, and who have served as manager for more than twenty years are Mesdames J. H. Rogers, H. Bosworth, A. F. Clarke, E. Cramer, M. b. Medbury, G. P. Hewitt, C. H. Larkin and D. Newhall. ... The present officers are: Firest Directress, Mrs. C. Shepard; Second Directress, Mrs. John Plankinton; Third Directress, Mrs. E. LaDue; Treasurer, Mrs. J. H. VanDyke; Secretary, Mrs. Wm. P. Lynde; Corresponding Secretary, Mrs. J. W. Meacham; Recording Secretary =, Mrs. J. H. Booth; Matron, Miss Maria P. Mason; Teacher, Miss Maria D. Wells; Board of Counsellors, J. h. VanDyke, A. Finch, J. D. Inbusch; Auditor, James G. Jenkins. Since the foundation of the institution, 1,081 children have been cared for. The number at present in the asylum is fifty-five - the average age of the inmates six and a half years. ... Following thisare listed shorter histories of St. Rosa's Female Orphan Asylum, St. Joseph Asylum, St. Vincent Infant Asylum Now that I have that all typed, wonder if anyone is really interested. Let me know. I can easily go through the many other volumes of history I have read. And to Bob Fay, please let me know if I am wrong in posting something as long as this to this site. Only did so because of the earlier discussions. Bob of Brookfield

Hello Bob etal! I am very interested. My grandmother and 3 siblings were put into orphanages in approx. 1912 here in Milwaukee after the death of their mother. (They were Catholics.) Family story has it that the 2 Freitag girls and boys were put in separate orphanages, and, after some time, being distraught at being separated, they 'ran away' and were taken in by relatives. I'm now wondering if St. Aemilians & St. Rose would be likely candidates. Do any of these books list children there? Do you think that the Milwaukee Historical Society might have documents on this? Just a thought. I hadn't thought to pursue this line of research before. Thank you again for all of your efforts, Bob. We benefit tremendously from your work! Catherine Rose Schmid ckschmid@tds.net

Yes, this is a great site!! And there are listings for WFTrees too; I've had a lot of good information from here; since Genealogy.com no longer offers the CD # up front for your name, if you have trouble figuring out which CD it is, you can also try: bostonfamilysearch.com; there are many of the same name listings as genealogy.com and the CD and WFT #'s are listed right next to the name(at least the last time I used it, about a month ago). Then go to the Loris CD site to get the lookup. .. hope this helps. Pam ______________________________________________________

This is forwarded to you from another list because it could be a useful resource. The site in the URL will do lookups IF YOU FOLLOW DIRECTIONS, clearly explained. Many, many volunteers and CD's are listed on this site. If you think some clues would exist on a Family Tree Maker CD that you don't have, take the time to check out the site. Good luck, Ashley > I have found the following site with a listing of cd's and people willing to > do look-ups in them: > > http://loricase.com/CDs/cdlist.html > > I think that it would be nice if the people on this list got together and > helped each other out with cd's that they have. I have a few cd's but none > really pertaining to PA. > > Sincerely, > Erin > >

ANCESTRY QUICK TIP ===================================================================== I knew my grandmother was adopted, and couldn't find any information. I found her original adoption paper ca. 1910. It was called a "Deed of Adoption," and is recorded in the Book of Deeds. I don't know that it was this way in all states, but this was in Missouri. As unsettling as it is, if you are looking for an adoption record, look in the deed book. Sherida Sutherland Maxine Capezza

>From a current newsletter at Ancestry.com. For further information, contact the Newberry library, which is just north of the Loop and quite easy to get to. The phone number is listed below. Ashley CHICAGO—Old photographs, yellowed letters, thumb-worn Bibles, reels of old movies, and delicate lace christening dresses—family treasures or forgotten trash? Sentimental tokens such as these, collected throughout the years, are often stashed away in attics or buried deep in basements, waiting to be rediscovered by succeeding generations. But care must be taken to preserve such family heirlooms, or all that may be left for posterity is crumbling pages and moth-eaten material. On 10 October, at 6 p.m., the Newberry Library's Friends of Genealogy (FOG) membership group will present "Ask the Experts: Protecting Your Family's History," featuring a panel of experts who will discuss general conservation principles for preserving a myriad assortment of family treasures. Dan Cochrane, a professional conservator, will talk about preserving photographs. Stephanie Orphan, Archives Director at the Museum of Broadcast Communications, will address audio/visual materials. Susan Russick, Director of Conservation at the Newberry Library, will discuss books and paper-based materials. Joel Thompson, an Assistant Conservator at the Chicago Historical Society, will lecture on textile and three-dimensional objects. "Ideal conservation standards are difficult to achieve in the home, primarily because of the problem of controlling humidity," said Susan Russick. "Temperature, humidity, light, pollutants, pests, and even vibrations can accelerate deterioration. I recommend that people focus their preservation efforts on providing appropriate housings, such as boxes, folders, and frames." Admission is $10, or free for FOG members. For reservations, please call (312) 255-3510. The Friends of Genealogy (FOG), a membership group supporting the Newberry Library's genealogy collections, was founded in 1997 for those interested in genealogical pursuits. FOG is dedicated to providing its members with educational information, events, and various networking forums and interest groups, and to enhancing the Newberry's Family and Community History collection and services through fundraising and volunteering. For more information, call Heidi Mucha at (312) 255-3556 or e-mail mailto:muchah@newberry.org. For more information on the Friends of Genealogy, see: www.newberry.org/nl/genealogy/L3gfriends.html

You didn't mention when the Caspari children were born, but assuming that there are no birth certificates on file, the births were probably fairly early. I would suggest you find a street address for the family in various years where there are gaps between births. From the street address it should be possible to figure out what parish (presumably Lutheran or Catholic) the family belonged to. You should be able to find baptisms record for the missing children, which can provide further clues to family ties through godparents. Note that in cases of stillbirths, generally only a death record was filed with the county. Mary Popovich Busia's Roots Professional Genealogy

I am looking for information on a George Gebhard son of George Gebhard and Lena Brandmiller. He was married to Mary Etzel. would like to find parents of Mary Etzel. Lenora from Wisconsin

Given the big discussion re Deaconess Hospital, a wonderful lady named Nancy on this list provided this website, (along with some really special information regarding my family), which may answer some questions about the Deaconess issue, and maybe raise some more?? I'm not clear now if this was actually an orphanage, as was listed in the phone directory?? In any case, there are some great links on the site regarding genealogy records at Golda Meir Library, which may not be new to Wisconsinites, but was interesting stuff!! The Deaconess Orphanage/Hospital on the "net" http://www.uwm.edu/Library/arch/hospital/index.htm. Maybe this will help someone. . . Pam ______________________________________________________

Bob of Brookfield, I saw your message to Coralie regarding Forest Home Cemetery history. What information is on file at the cemetery? I have the following relatives buried there in the Hoffmann/Baur plot: Louis HOFFMANN d. January 25, 1932 Emma (BAUR) Hoffmann d. November 11, 1909 Emma's parents: Phillip BAUR d.February 04, 1890 Fredericka (BRANCEP?) Baur d. February 15, 1904 It's very nice of you to look up information for those of us far away! Everyone, I also need any helpful hints you may have on tracking down the children of Benedict CASPARI and Georgiana STROEBE. I recently found out that they had 8 children together, but only found four of their births registered. Any suggestions? Thanks Angela in NZ HOFFMANN, OTT, BAUR, BRANCEP, BLUM, STROEBE, CASPARI, SCHLEIF, MARRIOTT, SHIPLEY, WALSH, WATTS, BALDWIN

__________________________________________________________ In a message dated 8/23/01, Mary Popovich writes: <<Subj: Re: [WiMilwau] St. Aemilians + Milwaukee Orphan Asylum Date: 8/23/01 2:28:10 AM Central Daylight Time From: busia@mindspring.com (Mary Popovich) Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com The following is a very short excerpt from the history of the Milwaukee Archdiocese. Bishop Henni headed the Milwaukee Diocese from 1843-1881: "Social welfare institutions blossomed as well. St. Mary's Hospital and St. Rose Orphan Asylum were opened early in Henni's career, as was St. Aemillian's orphanage." The above indicates that St. Rose's and St. Aemillian's were two different establishments from the beginning. Whether they ever merged is not noted. The following is an excerpt from an online history of the Milwaukee Cathedral. "There were other important ministries on the "Cathedral Block" which required attention and also forged the way for subsequent institutions of service: St. Rose Orphan Asylum for girls and St. Aemilian's Orphanage for boys......>> __________________________________________________________ Thanks to Mary for your input, including the above-- as well as your suggestions for additional research. I just noted the following Switchboard.com info-- which suggests that Milwaukee's Catholic Archdiocese still maintains St. Aemilian and St. Rose as separate organizations that are now located very near each other. However, I note that St. Aemilian has a Yellow Page listing under Foster Care, while St. Rose does not (which may not be significant). ........John ========================================= Switchboard.com Search by Distance: 3871 N 88th St, Milwaukee, WI St Rose Residence 3801 N 88th St Milwaukee, WI 53222-2706 (414) 438-8580 ----> 0.12 miles St Aemilian-Lakeside Inc 8901 W Capitol Dr Milwaukee, WI 53222-1706 414) 463-1880 ----> 0.14 miles =========================================

A few days ago, when I briefly visited the Milwaukee Area Health Center at 2220 E. North Avenue (northeast corner of Prospect and North), it became clear to me that the small modern buildings now there are on the approximate site of the razed old Milwaukee Orphan Asylum building (built in the 1880s?). I'm told that St. Aemilian Lakeside, Inc., occupied these small buildings up until about ten years ago, when this social service agency moved to its present location at 8901 W. Capitol Dr., Milwaukee, WI 53222-1706 (phone: 414-463-1880). My guess is that several decades ago Saint Aemilians may have absorbed the old Milwaukee Orphan Asylum and its 2220 E. North Ave. property-- but I haven't yet contacted St. Aemilians (note to Rev. Bob of Brookfield-- PLEASE try to call them also). Perhaps St. Aemilians took over the mission of several other old Milwaukee orphanages-- and hopefully they have some ancient RECORDS on many of the orphans they helped. Does anyone have more info on St. Aemilians?? Last Tuesday, when I quickly checked the Milwaukee Sentinel Index cards (1837-1890 only) at the main Milwaukee Public Library, I found that planning for the Milwaukee Orphan Asylum (sometimes also called the Protestant Orphan Asylum) began in 1849, and it was formally established in early 1850. But I'm unclear whether a similar Catholic organization may have been spun off from this Asylum at about the same time-- a spin-off that may have become St. Rose's Orphan Asylum of the 1860s-- as referred to by Mary <tepalmer@execpc.com> on 8/15/01. Presumably Milwaukee's St. Aemilians agency honors Italy's St. Jerome Emiliani, 1481-1537 (see below) and his special focus on orphans. But is Milwaukee's old St. Rose's an ancestor of St. Aemilian's Orphan Asylum?? ........John (in Chicago) PS: the above ties in with the info in this June 13, 1879, obit of one of my g-g-grandmothers-- Sarah (Higby) Eldred, 1802-1879. This Milwaukee newspaper clipping begins: "DEATH OF MRS. ELISHA ELDRED. The community will learn with regret of the decease, this morning at 9:15, of Mrs. Sarah A., relict of the late Elisha Eldred, who was widely known as one of the pioneers and substantial citizens of Milwaukee..... Mrs. Eldred came to this city with her husband in 1842, from Otsego County, New York. She was one of the oldest communicants of St. Paul's Episcopal Church, and was one of the founders of the Protestant Orphan Asylum, of which she was a director to the day of her death....... [etc., etc.] ======================================================= Milwaukee's early orphanages & hospitals---> Subj: [WiMilwau] Re: Milwaukee Orphan Asylum Date: 8/15/01 4:54:49 PM Central Daylight Time From: tepalmer@execpc.com Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com John...... In the book Milwaukee The History of a City by Bayrd Still Chapter 10, page 237 the following benevolent societies are listed as existing in the 1860's: Milwaukee Hospital, founded by Dr. W. A. Passavant in 1863 [JQM note: probably connected with Chicago's old Passavant Hospital, recently absorbed by (or renamed as) Northwestern Memorial Hospital] St. Mary's Hospital [JQM note: Ashley thinks St. Mary's might be Milwaukee's oldest hospital] St. Rose's Orphan Asylum Milwaukee Orphan Asylum, established by the Ladies' Benevolent Society and partly subsidized by the council Home of the Friendless, opened in 1867 Hebrew Relief Society, founded 1867 Union Bethel Mission societies Hope this helps, Mary ======================================================= http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08343a.htm from the Catholic Encyclopedia: St. Jerome Emiliani (1481-1537)-- << Founder of the Order of Somascha; b. at Venice [Italy], 1481; d. at Somascha [Italy], 8 Feb, 1537; feast, 20 July..... In the year of plague and famine (1528), he seemed to be everywhere and showed his zeal especially for the orphans, whose number had so greatly increased..... The principal work of the Somascha community: the care of orphans, poor, and sick..... At present the order has ten houses in Italy two of which are in Rome. The general resides in Rome at S. Girolamo della Carita. >> =======================================================

The following is a very short excerpt from the history of the Milwaukee Archdiocese. Bishop Henni headed the Milwaukee Diocese from 1843-1881: "Social welfare institutions blossomed as well. St. Mary's Hospital and St. Rose Orphan Asylum were opened early in Henni's career, as was St. Aemillian's orphanage." The above indicates that St. Rose's and St. Aemillian's were two different establishments from the beginning. Whether they ever merged is not noted. The following is an excerpt from an online history of the Milwaukee Cathedral. "There were other important ministries on the "Cathedral Block" which required attention and also forged the way for subsequent institutions of service: St. Rose Orphan Asylum for girls and St. Aemilian's Orphanage for boys (the first orphanages in the city and the forerunners to a variety of social services in the diocese), Milwaukee's first hospital, St. John's Infirmary (which later moved and changed its name to St. Mary's Hospital), and the schools begun years earlier at St. Peter's which opened the way for the Cathedral Grade School and High School." This would seem to indicate that the location of the original Catholic orphanages for boys and girls were in the general vicinity of present-day Van Buren and Kilbourn Streets. Both St. Rose's and St. Aemillians's were likely staffed by Catholic nuns. Most Catholic religious orders have a member who serves as an archivist/historian for the order, and might be able to answer general questions about the founding and history of an orphanage. St. Joseph's orphanage in Milwaukee was staffed by Felician Sisters and St. Vincent's by the Sisters of Charity of St. Vincent de Paul (the ones who used to have the huge white headdresses). However, I don't know which order(s) staffed St. Rose and/or St. Aemillian. Anyone out there have further information? Perhaps someone located in Milwaukee could contact the Chancery Office, which could provide information on who ran the orphanages and the address(es) of the appropriate Motherhouse. If the Protestant Orphan Asylum was affiliated with the Episcopal Church in Milwaukee (or St. Paul's Parish [founded 1838] as someone noted), perhaps the Episcopal Chancery Office would have information in its records. Episcopal Diocese of Milwaukee, 804 E. Juneau Ave., Milwaukee, WI 53202. Phone (414) 272-3028 Mary Popovich