records for Pilgrim Rest Cemetery must be called for at Good Hope Cemetery 4101 S. 43rd St. Milwaukee, WI 53220 1-414-541-3178 Bob of Brookfield

Thanks Bob. Joan of Brookfield. (I live on Melody La.) -----Original Message--

Who has the records for Pilgrims Rest Cemetery ? I have a phone# but no one answers. Joan

I use the US Zip Code book, found the purchase price to be well worth it Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Popovich" <busia@mindspring.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] county help needed > http://www.wisconsin.gov/state/core/wisconsin_cities_towns_and_villages.html > The above site provides a list of many (though not all) Wisconsin cities, > towns and villages, but doesn't put them in counties. Many of the town > websites do, however, include a short history. > > The method I use for determining which county a town is in takes 2 steps: > > I find the town using the index to my Rand-McNally Road Atlas. The Atlas > also indexes the counties. However, county lines can be difficult to read on > Rand-McNally, so I then turn to my trusty old (at least 35 years!) Hammond > Atlas. The county lines are clearly drawn on the Hammond maps. Not every > town is shown, which is why you also need the Rand-McNally. > > If you decide to invest in these references, be sure you get the Hammond > CITATION Atlas. It's this version that has the county lines (as well as > province lines for foreign countries) clearly delineated. The Hammond > Citation Atlas also clearly marks the county seats. > > Mary Popovich > Busia's Roots, Professional Genealogy > > ______________________________

This is great news. I first read about this cemetery about a year ago and since I was already embroiled in the Potter's Field situation, I decided these people needed to be recorded on the Internet as well. I do have the list of names buried in St. Peter's Lutheran cemetery transcribed. I do not have them on a website yet but I will be glad to do look ups for anyone I can. I went to the cemetery several times to try to get the words from the headstone but most were in German and I had a hard time with some of the letters. Although I have some German heritage, I do not speak or understand German. Names, dates, and location of graves I do have if anyone wishes to inquire. Evelyn Oliveras

Thanks to all who offered help. Pat B

"Happy National Friendship Week. Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself." Taken, heavily edited, from the recent chain letter, accompanied by pictures of Winnie the Pooh, a friend sent me after kindly stripping off the demand for my circulating it to 10 friends. I thought the part about genealogy might briefly amuse the list. Now hit the delete, please. No author was given. Ashley

> FEEFHS promotes research into the ancestral past of east and central > Europe, with some of the countries and ethnicities involved including > Austria, Austro-Hungarian empire, Poland, Ukraine, Russia, German > immigrants to eastern Europe, and the countries of the former > Jugoslavia. > The 2001 FEEFHS conference is in Milwaukee, October 5 Friday thru > Sunday October 7, with a full day of workshops each day. It's > modestly priced, and at one of the airport hotels that does a lot of > conferences. > You can go to > > http://www.feefhs.org/conf/01mil/01mil-hp.html > for information about the fall FEEFHS conference > > or to http://www.progenealogists.com/news.htm > > to learn of all the fall 2001 genealogy conferences. > > Among the FEEFHS workshops, on Sunday morning, Ashley Tiwara is > doing a presentation (for beginners) on internet genealogy with a > focus on Croatia. Erk. I'm working very hard on getting the handout > together, doing PowerPoint slides, and finally getting around to > computerizing my lineages. > > Don't ask why I do this stuff, just now I could not say, > Ashley > > "Deborah W." wrote: > >> Ashley, When is the conference. I might want to attend. Do you >> know what is on the agenda? Deborah >

Try DeLorme's Gazetter. If you have a question about a town or two I will check mine. On Mon, 3 Sep 2001 17:24:52 EDT, Obmijtap@aol.com wrote: >Is there anyone on this list that knows of a site where you can find out what >cities are in which Wisconsin counties? Thanks. Pat B. > > >============================== >Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life >If you know how to reduce these risks. >http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > >

Already sent this to Pat B. and then thought others could use it also. Whenever I find a city I never heard of in Wisconsin and would like to know the county, I go to http://www.execpc.com/~mpafug/wi2.htm#home You will need a good Wisconsin map but I do believe that just about every place in Wisconsin is listed here. I have lived her 70 years now and there are many listed there that I have never heard of. Cities and the County there are in are listed and the map co-ordinates are there. Bob in Brookfield

Is there anyone on this list that knows of a site where you can find out what cities are in which Wisconsin counties? Thanks. Pat B.

http://www.wisconsin.gov/state/core/wisconsin_cities_towns_and_villages.html The above site provides a list of many (though not all) Wisconsin cities, towns and villages, but doesn't put them in counties. Many of the town websites do, however, include a short history. The method I use for determining which county a town is in takes 2 steps: I find the town using the index to my Rand-McNally Road Atlas. The Atlas also indexes the counties. However, county lines can be difficult to read on Rand-McNally, so I then turn to my trusty old (at least 35 years!) Hammond Atlas. The county lines are clearly drawn on the Hammond maps. Not every town is shown, which is why you also need the Rand-McNally. If you decide to invest in these references, be sure you get the Hammond CITATION Atlas. It's this version that has the county lines (as well as province lines for foreign countries) clearly delineated. The Hammond Citation Atlas also clearly marks the county seats. Mary Popovich Busia's Roots, Professional Genealogy

I have a book with the cities in each county. Can I be of some help? Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <Obmijtap@aol.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 4:24 PM Subject: [WiMilwau] county help needed > Is there anyone on this list that knows of a site where you can find out what > cities are in which Wisconsin counties? Thanks. Pat B. > > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html >

Try this one: http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnisprod?f_name=riverside&varian t=N&f_state=Indiana&my_function=*County+Name%3A&f_cnty=&f_ty=&elev1=&elev2=& cell=&pop1=&pop2=&last_name=&last_state=&last_cnty=&page_cnt=&record_cnt=&ta b=Y It's not specific to only Wisconsin; it will work with any US state. Good luck! Catherine Rose Schmid ckschmid@tds.net -----Original Message----- From: Obmijtap@aol.com [mailto:Obmijtap@aol.com] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 4:25 PM To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WiMilwau] county help needed Is there anyone on this list that knows of a site where you can find out what cities are in which Wisconsin counties? Thanks. Pat B. ============================== Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life If you know how to reduce these risks. http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html

Dear Milwaukee folks, I am trying to locate an old friend of mine (circa the 60s), an artist named "Nick Valentine" I met in Milwaukee. We were both living on the east side around UWM, and both, at different times, moved to the San Francisco Bay Area. He got married and had a little girl, Romie (I think). She would be in her 20s by now. Does his name ring any bells out there? Shelley rnameroff@earthlink.net

Thanks, will give it a try. Ken "Joseph J & Maxine M. Capezza" wrote: > >Ken in NC > > I'm not positive, but I believe that the orphan's names would be listed in > the census. Once I went through the entire city of Milwaukee 1905 state > census...institutions did list their inmates. > Good luck to you. > Maxine > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Dear Bob, Thank you for telling us about this good deed. May God bless these good hearted "angels". Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gartzr@aol.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 5:33 AM Subject: [WiMilwau] Today's- Newspaper Article > Happy Holiday All, > An article appears in today's Milwaukee Sentinel-Journal, Monday, > September 3, 2001. It might be of interest to some for I have seen questions > posted about this cemetery on this message board. And I know just how big a > job they are taking on as we, when I was a pastor in Wisconsin Dells in the > early 1960s, found a cemetery in like disrepair. We spent a month working > part-time cleaning it up for it was completely overgrown. When finished we > had three piles of shrubbery and trees each almost as big as a small house. > With the help of the local fire department, many of whom were members with us > of the Kiwanis Club who undertook this labor of love, we had three very, very > large bonfires on neighboring property with the "O.K." of the farmer who > owned the land. We found a stone honoring a veteran of the Revolutionary War > in that cemetery so that the U.S. Government now takes care of the entire > cemetery. > > Today article in the Metro Section on pages 1, continued on 3" > > Jewish brotherhood undertakes labor of peace - Group cleans up church > cemetery left in disrepair. By Marie Rohde of the Journal Sentinel staff. > River Hills - Brad Michel; is a businessman who like most of his neighbors > hires a yards service to care for his 5-acre lot. > But this summer, Michel and friends from his synagogue grabbed weed > trimmers and even a scythe to clean up the abandoned church cemetery. > 'So why should a bunch of Jewish guys care about a German Christian > cemetery?" Michel asked. 'Seeing it made me think about a biblical passage > that says we're supposed to care for the deceased even if they are not of our > religion. That's the way of peace.' > Michel, a member of Congregation Emanu-el B'ne Jeshurun, had recently > joined the synagogue's brotherhood, a men's group that undertakes civic > projects as well as those that serve the synagogue. > The cemetery of St. Peter's German Evangelical Lutheran Churcdh, near > where the Milwaukee River crosses into Ozaukee County, dates back to the > mid-1800's and is the resting place of immigrant farmers. > The church is long gone. Yet, the question of who is responsible for > cemetery upkeep remains in dispute. > The brotherhood, at least for this summer, took up the cause. > Michel lives about six blocks from the pioneer cemetery. After > reading a newspaper story about the cemetery upkeep, he went for a drive > looking for the orphaned graveyard in the 9500 block of Upper River Road. > 'I couldn't find it at first because it was so overgrown,' Michael > says. > Wading onto the burial grounds, Michel found overturned tombstones > amid the weeds. > Ed Sternberg, the president of the brotherhood, agreed that cleaning > the cemetery would be a mitzvah, a good deed. He found a scythe and was one > of the first to cut into the field of weeds. > 'Our primary purpose is to aid the synagogue,' Sternberg said. 'But > we very much see the synagogue as a part of the broader community.' > Why not hire someone to do the work? > 'Getting your hands dirty is good for the soul,' said Michel. > Michel also had contacted a headstone company in hopes he can persuade > them to right markers that have fallen. The brotherhood is also considering > raising money to buy some sort of permanent marker for the cemetery, > something to commemorate of piece of forgotten history. > St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church, 8080 N. 47th St., Brown Deer, > inherited the pioneer church and its parsonage but apparently not the > cemetery. > The congregation had maintained the cemetery for a number of years but > no longer has enough volunteers to continue the work. Then, for a time, a > descendant tended the graves but had to give it up a few years ago because of > his health. Earlier this year, Buckley Tree Service of Waukesha had cleared > some fallen trees. The brotherhood was left to clear waist-high weeds, a job > that took some care because of the dozens of tombstones. There are 53 known > graves, the last burial dating to the 1940s. > Communities around the state are concerned that an increasing number > of cemeteries have been abandoned. State law requires municipalities to pay > for the upkeep of cemeteries. A number of municipalities are supporting > proposed legislation that would provide state funding for such care." > > There is an accompanying picture of Mr. Michel and his 13 yr. old son, > Danny, and a Mr. Brazner at work in the cemetery. > Haven't checked this out but in the past found articles by going to > www.jsonline.com/news > if you are interested. > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Happy Holiday All, An article appears in today's Milwaukee Sentinel-Journal, Monday, September 3, 2001. It might be of interest to some for I have seen questions posted about this cemetery on this message board. And I know just how big a job they are taking on as we, when I was a pastor in Wisconsin Dells in the early 1960s, found a cemetery in like disrepair. We spent a month working part-time cleaning it up for it was completely overgrown. When finished we had three piles of shrubbery and trees each almost as big as a small house. With the help of the local fire department, many of whom were members with us of the Kiwanis Club who undertook this labor of love, we had three very, very large bonfires on neighboring property with the "O.K." of the farmer who owned the land. We found a stone honoring a veteran of the Revolutionary War in that cemetery so that the U.S. Government now takes care of the entire cemetery. Today article in the Metro Section on pages 1, continued on 3" Jewish brotherhood undertakes labor of peace - Group cleans up church cemetery left in disrepair. By Marie Rohde of the Journal Sentinel staff. River Hills - Brad Michel; is a businessman who like most of his neighbors hires a yards service to care for his 5-acre lot. But this summer, Michel and friends from his synagogue grabbed weed trimmers and even a scythe to clean up the abandoned church cemetery. 'So why should a bunch of Jewish guys care about a German Christian cemetery?" Michel asked. 'Seeing it made me think about a biblical passage that says we're supposed to care for the deceased even if they are not of our religion. That's the way of peace.' Michel, a member of Congregation Emanu-el B'ne Jeshurun, had recently joined the synagogue's brotherhood, a men's group that undertakes civic projects as well as those that serve the synagogue. The cemetery of St. Peter's German Evangelical Lutheran Churcdh, near where the Milwaukee River crosses into Ozaukee County, dates back to the mid-1800's and is the resting place of immigrant farmers. The church is long gone. Yet, the question of who is responsible for cemetery upkeep remains in dispute. The brotherhood, at least for this summer, took up the cause. Michel lives about six blocks from the pioneer cemetery. After reading a newspaper story about the cemetery upkeep, he went for a drive looking for the orphaned graveyard in the 9500 block of Upper River Road. 'I couldn't find it at first because it was so overgrown,' Michael says. Wading onto the burial grounds, Michel found overturned tombstones amid the weeds. Ed Sternberg, the president of the brotherhood, agreed that cleaning the cemetery would be a mitzvah, a good deed. He found a scythe and was one of the first to cut into the field of weeds. 'Our primary purpose is to aid the synagogue,' Sternberg said. 'But we very much see the synagogue as a part of the broader community.' Why not hire someone to do the work? 'Getting your hands dirty is good for the soul,' said Michel. Michel also had contacted a headstone company in hopes he can persuade them to right markers that have fallen. The brotherhood is also considering raising money to buy some sort of permanent marker for the cemetery, something to commemorate of piece of forgotten history. St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church, 8080 N. 47th St., Brown Deer, inherited the pioneer church and its parsonage but apparently not the cemetery. The congregation had maintained the cemetery for a number of years but no longer has enough volunteers to continue the work. Then, for a time, a descendant tended the graves but had to give it up a few years ago because of his health. Earlier this year, Buckley Tree Service of Waukesha had cleared some fallen trees. The brotherhood was left to clear waist-high weeds, a job that took some care because of the dozens of tombstones. There are 53 known graves, the last burial dating to the 1940s. Communities around the state are concerned that an increasing number of cemeteries have been abandoned. State law requires municipalities to pay for the upkeep of cemeteries. A number of municipalities are supporting proposed legislation that would provide state funding for such care." There is an accompanying picture of Mr. Michel and his 13 yr. old son, Danny, and a Mr. Brazner at work in the cemetery. Haven't checked this out but in the past found articles by going to www.jsonline.com/news if you are interested.

>Ken in NC I'm not positive, but I believe that the orphan's names would be listed in the census. Once I went through the entire city of Milwaukee 1905 state census...institutions did list their inmates. Good luck to you. Maxine

Bob Are the names of the orphans given? My father and his brother were in an orphanage in Milwaukee the end of 1910, 1911, and part of 1912. Is there anywhere that I can research this? Thanks Ken in NC Gartzr@aol.com wrote: > Re: Orphanages. > As I have time on Friday's I am going through the volumes of history > to look up information re: this subject. I do not have a lot of time to do > this because of people stopping in, calling in plus the many inquiries I find > on the Internet as I did not write down things like this as I read the > volumes, only names and pages. Wish I had now because of the many requests > for companies, churches, organizations, etc. > > In Watrous' 1st volume I found this: "In the Spring of 1908 the St. > Joseph's Orphanage Asylum, situated at the corner of Thirteenth and Euclid > avenues, at the souther extremeties of the city was opened. This institution > is conducted by the Felician Sisters f Detroit. At present seventy Polish > orphan boys find a home and shelter within the walls of this instutition." > > In another I found (and shame on me - I forgot to write down which volume it > was found in but looks like one of Gregory's volumes or Bruce's). Will look > it up Friday if anyone at all is truly interested. > "MILWAUKEE ORPHAN ASYLUM > The origin of this institution dates back over thrity years, the asylum being > the outgrowth of the Ladies" Benevolent Society of Milwaukee. On January 4, > 1850, the ladies met at the home of Mrs. S. B. Grant, and organized the > Miwlaukee Protestant Orphan Asylum, adopted a constitution, and elected > officers. At the expiration of a month, a house was rented, a matron > engaged, and soon the building was furnished. Although entire dependence was > placed upon voluntary subscriptions, fifty cents from ladies and five dollars > from entelmen, at the end of the first year twenty-three children had been > maintained. The next year the Board were much encouraged by the donation of > a lot on Marshall street, valued at $1,000 by Mrs. William P. Young. But > June, 1853, a building costing over $4,500 has been erected on this ground, > and occupied by the asylum. ... > The first Board of Trustees being: Mrs. G. P. Hewitt, First > Directoress; Mrs. B. Mc Vickar, Second Directoress; Ms. M. B. Taylor, > Secretary, Mr. Alexander Mitchell, treasurer; Mrs. Thomas P. Williams, Mrs. > Elisha Eldred, Mrs. E. LaDue, Mrs. Wm. P. Lynde, Mrs. Wm. H. Byron, Mrs. G. > Bonnell, Mrs. H. P. Peck, Mrs Joseph Cary, Mrs. E. D. Holton, Mrs. P. C. > Hale, Mrs. Jas. H. Rogers, Mrs. John Hustis, Mrs. S. Grant, Mrs. A. F. Clark, > Mrs. A. D. Smith, Mrs. Daniel Wells, Mrs. J. P. Greves, Mrs. L. Kennedy, Mrs. > H. Bosworth, Mrs. Wm. P. Young, Mrs. C. Arnold, Mrs. O. H. Waldo, Mrs. Mc > Dougall and Mrs. M. W. Clark, Managers. The property was vested in the > officers and managaers. A Board of Counsellors and the office of Auditor was > also created, to be filled by gentlemen. The building on Marshall street > was, from time to time, enlarged, until the lot became uncomfortably crowded. > In the Spring of 1869, the residence of Wallace Pratt, at the head od > Division street, with a large plat of ground, was puchased for $15,000. The > nexzt year the Marshall-=street property was sold for $6,000, the $3,000 > mortgage on the Platt purchase paid off, and the association started freee of > debt. Subject to the provision that i should be occupied with two years, the > Common Countil of 1860 donated four and three-quarters acres of land, near > St. Mary's Hospital, to the orphan Asylum. ... > With few exceptions, the asylum as been upheld and strengthened by > private effort. Among whose who have been permanently identified with the > institution, and who have served as manager for more than twenty years are > Mesdames J. H. Rogers, H. Bosworth, A. F. Clarke, E. Cramer, M. b. Medbury, > G. P. Hewitt, C. H. Larkin and D. Newhall. ... > The present officers are: Firest Directress, Mrs. C. Shepard; Second > Directress, > Mrs. John Plankinton; Third Directress, Mrs. E. LaDue; Treasurer, Mrs. J. H. > VanDyke; Secretary, Mrs. Wm. P. Lynde; Corresponding Secretary, Mrs. J. W. > Meacham; Recording Secretary =, Mrs. J. H. Booth; Matron, Miss Maria P. > Mason; Teacher, Miss Maria D. Wells; Board of Counsellors, J. h. VanDyke, > A. Finch, J. D. Inbusch; Auditor, James G. Jenkins. > Since the foundation of the institution, 1,081 children have been > cared for. The number at present in the asylum is fifty-five - the average > age of the inmates six and a half years. ... > > Following thisare listed shorter histories of St. Rosa's Female Orphan > Asylum, St. Joseph Asylum, St. Vincent Infant Asylum > > Now that I have that all typed, wonder if anyone is really interested. Let > me know. I can easily go through the many other volumes of history I have > read. And to Bob Fay, please let me know if I am wrong in posting something > as long as this to this site. Only did so because of the earlier discussions. > > Bob of Brookfield > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB