The Milwaukee County Historical Society has a large number of old photos. Contact them if you cannot go there in person. Good luck. Maxine At 01:22 AM 10/9/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Does anyone know where I could get a photo of the Gridley Dairy, circa >1915-1920, located in Milwaukee at about 14th & National Avenue? > >TIA! > >Shari > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp Pray for Peace, Maxine Capezza

Milwaukee Wisconsin 9600 W. Grange Avenue Hales Corners, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin, United States Phone: (414) 425-4182 Hours: T-Th 8:30am-3:30pm, 6:30pm-9pm; F 8:30am-3:30pm; Sat 12pm-3:30pm. Closed: 2 weeks over Christmas & New Years. Note: These are not mailing addresses. Because of limited staff, Family History Centers cannot respond to mail inquiries.

Marcie, Janice is the person that I was going to put you in contact with. She is the one who does research on Hackbarth's and they fit in with the Beerbaums. Your reference to Salzman -- The name is only mentioned once. Information on the Dehling family from St. Peter's Lutheran Church records, Trinity Luth. Church of S. Mequon and Kenneth Salzman, Shawano, Wisc., a descendant. (He donated information to the book about the Dehling family.) Vikki

Hi Marcie, I don't have Bierbaum/Baerbaum but I have some information on the name Beerbaum. Charles/Carl Herman Heinrich, son of Karl Ludwig and Louise Gottlieb (Solomon) Hackbarth marr. Wilhelmine Beerbaum in Milw. 12/26/1891/ She was a granddaughter of Michael and Louisa (Winter) Hackbarth; her mother, Wilhelmine Hackbarth marr. August Beerbaum and they lived in Menomonee Falls. Her mother, Wilhelmine (Hackbarth) Beerbaum was her husband's aunt, making them 1st cousins once removed! Carl Herman died 10/21/1939; Wilhelmine died 3/15/1937. Both are buried in Graceland Cemetery. They had lived at 53rd and W. Custer, town of Granville. There were two references -- the above -- and the following: Wilhelmina Caroline Hackbarth, dau. of Michael Fried. and Eva Louisa (Winter) Hackbarth, marr. 6/30/1867 Granville to August Hermann Beerbaum, son of Peter and Engel Beerbaum. They lived near Menomonee Falls; she died 6/23/1926 in Granville, buried in Menomonee Falls. If this the right Beerbaum I can put you in touch with someone that helped write the information for the Granville books that I have. She does research on the Hackbarth name. Vikki

Hi Janice: Thanks for the addresses of the two cemeteries. I would be interested in the book if I knew that my family was mentioned. The names would be Niepow/Neipow/Ninpo/Ninow, etc., Bierbaum, Beerbaum, Baerbaum, etc. Saltzmann, Salzman, etc. Klett Any help you can give me will be appreciated. Thanks Marcie

Hi folks, Does anyone have the address and phone number handy for the Family History Center in Hales Corners? Thanks, Bob Fay

Hi Vikki: Thanks for taking the time to do the Niepow lookup and sending the information to me. I certainly appreciate it. Unfortunately, I have none of the names you wrote of. I checked the given names also. I have not given up on this at this time. I have a old yellowed copy of a birth record written in German. The surname is not written as Niepow but more like the names you sent me. An individual that lives in Germany looked at this record and she said it is all written in old German and she couldn't read old German. Also, during the reign of Hitler old German was discontinued. She did say that she knew the last letters of the name did not end in po. So I feel that there might be a chance that the information you have uncovered may be my family. I have information Frederich William Niepow (1858-1941) b. in Silver Creek, NY., m Bertha Bierbaum b. in Pommern. You have a Frank & Otto Nenow that were born in Pommern. Are there any Bierbaum/Baerbaum's listed in the book that you have? Louisa Niepow, the ancestor I wrote of in my first email had 10 siblings, 6 born before her birth & 4 after. I have all of them as being born in Milwaukee but now feel that is incorrect & that some of the siblings were born in Granville also. Thanks again for your help. If you find any Bierbaum's I would appreciate knowing about them. Marcie

Hi Shari! I would start with the Milwaukee Historical Society. Their web page is: http://www.milwaukeecountyhistsoc.org/ Good luck! Catherine Rose Schmid ckschmid@tds.net Researching Wasielewski/Freitag/Turzynski -----Original Message----- From: Nosey9999@aol.com [mailto:Nosey9999@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 12:22 AM To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WiMilwau] Gridley Dairy Does anyone know where I could get a photo of the Gridley Dairy, circa 1915-1920, located in Milwaukee at about 14th & National Avenue? TIA! Shari ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Does anyone know where I could get a photo of the Gridley Dairy, circa 1915-1920, located in Milwaukee at about 14th & National Avenue? TIA! Shari

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Hi Marcie, I don't have any of with those spellings -- what I do have that are close are Nenow, Ninnow, Nino and Ninow. In the 1880 directory there was a Frank Nenow age 21 RR laborer from Pommern and an Otto Nenow age 23 RR laborer form Pommern. 1860 town of Granville Treichel, Herman 36 farmer Prussia Henrietta 30 Prussia (Her maiden name was Ninnow) Wilhelmina 6 Wis. Carl 5 Wis. August 2 Wis. Bertha 9 mo. Wis. They had later: Pauline Friederike Louise 3/28/1864; Johann Gottlieb 12/8/1865 and Johann Gottlieb Herman 4/2/1867, from St. Peter's Lutheran Church records (formerly on W. Mill Rd.) Henrietta Friedericke's maiden name was Ninnow; she appears to be a 2nd wife. Carl Treichel died 4/26/1873 age 18 yrs., of kidney disease, son of Herman and Emilie (Krueger) Treichel It has more information on the Treichel family -- I can send it to you if Henrietta is the person you are looking for. 1860 Granville Nino, Wilhelm 26 from Prussia He lives with Christopher and Elizabeth Pfeil. Charles Fried. Herman Ninow, son of Joachim and Mary (Froemming) Ninow, a farmer born Natelfitz, Pommern.; marr. 5/28/1865 at Trinity Church, Granville to Johanna Wilhelmine Augusta Ninow, dau. of Johann Gottfried and Sophia Caroline (Borchardt) Ninow. She was born 5/22/1836 Witzmitz, Pommern.; he was born 2/21/1839. Married at Herman Treichel's home according to St. Peter's Lutheran Church record (church located then on W. Mill Rd.) I included the above marriage record on the chance Wilhelm Nino/Ninow was related. Let me know if any of this is what you were looking for, Vikki

Marcie, Union Cemetery has always been a part of Milwaukee, as it is south of Hampton Avenue. The records for Union Cemetery are at the office of Graceland Cemetery. The LDS Church has microfilmed those records also. Graceland Cemetery 6401 North 43rd Street Milwaukee, WI 53209 Phone: 414-353-8850 Union Cemetery 3175 North Teutonia Avenue Milwaukee, WI Phone: 414-353-3410 The cemeteries are listed in the Milwaukee Yellow Pages as above. It is recommended that you do not visit Union Cemetery alone. It is in a rather bad part of town. My mother and I went during the day several years ago, and it was okay. There were cemetery workers around, so we felt safe. Miriam Y. Bird wrote a book "The Town of Granville Families From 1850" (2-volume set) on the history of the Town of Granville. It is available from the Milwaukee County Genealogical Society for $40 plus postage. But if you give me the names you are looking for, I can look them up in the book and give you the information. Milwaukee County Genelogical Society P. O. Box 2736 Milwaukee, WI 53227-0326 Website: http://www.execpc.com/~mcgs Hope this helps. Janice

Hello Vikki: Appreciate your offering to do a look up for me. The name is: Niepow - Nipow - Neipo - Ninyo If you need given names and dates I can send those. Thanks, Marcie ----- Original Message ----- From: <GGraf13821@aol.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: [WiMilwau] Granville > Hi Marcie, > > I have two volumes of books on Granville, WI. If you give me a name I can > look up the family for you. > > Granville is now a part of Milwaukee. > > Vikki > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

Hi Marcie, I have two volumes of books on Granville, WI. If you give me a name I can look up the family for you. Granville is now a part of Milwaukee. Vikki

Hello Janice: Want to tell you how much I appreciate receiving the information on Granville. The ancestor that I inquired about had siblings and I had them all listed as being born in Milwaukee (no documentation). I'm sure now that some/all of the siblings were born in Granville. Thanks for the contact information re the Historial Society and the County Court House. I have a map of the City of Milwaukee but it is not large enough. The only street I could find was North 21st Street. Would you or anyone else know anything about the Union Cemetery? Was that also in Granville or was it always in Milwaukee? Thanks again for your help. Marcie --- Original Message ----- From: <j.l.hackbarth@att.net> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] Granville, Wi > Marcie had a question about Granville, Wisconsin. > > The Town of Granville was a township just west of the > Town of Milwaukee. If you can get hold of a plat map > for the County of Milwaukee, you will be better able to > understand. The Milwaukee County Historical Society > would have plat maps. > > The Town of Granville was annexed by the City of > Milwaukee back in the 1960's. > > The Town of Granville was bordered by what is now West > County Line Road (north boundary); North 124th Street > (west boundary); North 27th Street (east boundary); West > Hampton Avenue (south boundary). If you have a City of > Milwaukee map today you'd be able to find it by those > streets. > > Any events that would have occured in the Town of > Granville, would be registered at the Milwaukee County > Courthouse, and if not there, in the local churches. I > think the majority of the churches have had their > records microfilmed by the LDS Church. > > Hope that helps you some. > > >From someone who lives smack dab in the middle of the > Town of Granville. > > Janice > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

To Shirley from John-- perhaps you already have the following info from: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4749.htm --OR-- http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1890milwauwi&gs=pachler 1889 Milwaukee directory: Frank Pachler tinner r. 989 11th. Josef Pachler laborer r. rear 998 11th. Bertha Fischer r. 998 11th. Frank Stock saloon 998 11th r. same. Rev. Leonard Batz r. 162 Martin. 1890 Milwaukee directory: Joseph Pachler laborer r. 978 Richards. Joseph Pachler laborer r. 1059 1st. Joseph Pachler shoemaker r. 164 Walnut. Johanna Batz bookkeeper 251 E. Water r. 1008 North avenue Rev. Leonard Batz St. Peter's Church pastor r. 507 Murray avenue PS: there are also a lot of Hilgendorf listings in the above directories. ____________________________________________ In a message dated 10/4/01 5:30:15 PM CDT, sjlynn@mail.fea.net writes: > I'm researching the Pachler family. Any info would be appreciated. Joseph > Pachler married Dorothea Karolina Wilhelmine (Minnie) Hilgendorf around 1887/ > 8 in Milwaukee. She had a son, Albert Batz from a previous liaison. The > Pachlers had 4 children: Anna Frieda (1888); Josephine Emma Bertha (1889), > Minnie Bertha Theresa (1891), and Anton Joseph (1893). Minnie was still alive > in 1935, but I can't find the family since then. > Thanks, Shirley Lynn ____________________________________________

The helpful info on "Ethnic churches in Old Milwaukee," as kindly posted on 10/2/01 by Mary Popovich, reminded me of some data that I had copied several years ago from volume one of the "Statistics of the Population of the United States (1872), " which provides summaries of 1870 US Census data. (See pages 336-342 and 386-391 especially.) Below are those foreign lands that are each listed as the birthplaces of at least 100 City of Milwaukee residents in 1870. The numbers refer to the total Milwaukee population that was reported as native to each foreign area. This is followed by a percentage figure (in parentheses) that compares each of these totals to the total 1870 US population reported as native to each foreign area. _________________________________________________________ Austrian Empire: Austria- 574 (1.9%); Bohemia- 1435 (3.6%) German Confederation: total (in Milwaukee City)--> 22599 (1.3%), including: Baden- 620 (0.4%); Bavaria- 1786 (0.9%); Hanover- 579 (0.6%); Hessen- 1127 (0.9%); Mecklenburg- 2286 (5.8%); Nassau- 247 (0.1%); Prussia- 13155 (2.2%); Saxony- 1090 (2.4%); Wurtemberg- 680 (0.5%); German unclassified- 1029. British Isles: total (in Milwaukee City)--> 5844 (0.2%): England- 1395 (0.3%); Wales- 242 (0.3%); Scotland- 423 (0.3%); Ireland- 3784 (0.2%). Other: Canada- 774 (0.2%); France- 189 (0.2%); Norway- 523 (0.5%); Denmark- 116 (0.4%); Holland- 693 (1.5%); Switzerland- 346 (0.5%); Poland-325 (2.3%). 1870 Milwaukee City totals: total foreign born population- 33773 total native US population- 37667 grand total- 71440 _________________________________________________________ Because the 1870 US census preceded the unification of Germany in 1871, it happily provides more detail on the origins of Milwaukee's large 1870 German population than would have been likely if that unification had occurred prior to 1870. I suspect that many ethnic Poles (also maybe some Lithuanians) may be included above in the large Prussian category. Also, it's interesting to me that as much as 5.8% of all US residents that are reported in 1870 as native of Mecklenburg (absorbed by Prussia in 1865) may have been located in the City of Milwaukee. The 3.6% figure for Bohemia is also interesting. But several of the statistics above may also just reflect differing census procedures throughout the USA. .........John (in Chicago) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ added religious info--> 1870 US Census estimates (page 560): Milwaukee County-- total religious organizations- 85 (79 edifices), 30800 "sittings." Below are Milwaukee County estimates for what appears to be Wisconsin's eight largest religious denominations in 1870. The first number indicates the reported number of "sittings" (seating capacity or memberships??), while the second figure (in parentheses) states how many Milwaukee County organizations are reported for each denomination: Baptist- 1050 (5); Congregational- 2800 (5); Episcopal- 3675 (8); Evangelical- 1000 (3); Lutheran- 4600 (16); Methodist- 3835 (14); Presbyterian- 1500 (5); Roman Catholic- 10075 (19). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'm researching the Pachler family. Any info would be appreciated. Joseph Pachler married Dorothea Karolina Wilhelmine (Minnie) Hilgendorf around 1887/8 in Milwaukee. She had a son, Albert Batz from a previous liaison. The Pachlers had 4 children: Anna Frieda (1888); Josephine Emma Bertha (1889), Minnie Bertha Theresa (1891), and Anton Joseph (1893). Minnie was still alive in 1935, but I can't find the family since then. Thanks, Shirley Lynn

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