WI "marriages" in "IL" You think you've got problems, Ashley. The dog ate MY e-mail! ALL of it!! _______________________________________________________ > Subj: my e-mail was eaten > Date: 10/21/01 9:26:04 PM Central Daylight Time > From: grubisic@netwurx.net (Ashley Tiwara) > To: JQMagie@aol.com (john) > Was sending you a very long note yesterday, > all about various stuffs, and it was eaten. > My computer crashed. > Tragic....... _______________________________________________________ JQM response: Was sending you a very long note yesterday-- all about various stuffs (including info on some old stiffs), and it was sadly eaten, ALL of it. I had opened my back door to check on the weather, and suddenly a vicious shaggy dog of uncertain pedigree leaped into my home, went directly to my desk where I had placed the floppy disk on which my long e-mail to you had been stored. He (or she) then wolfed down the entire disk, licked his chops, and then departed almost as rapidly as he had arrived. A sort of reverse Santa Claus-- instead of bringing presents, he took off with at least one. Very Upsetting. And very Tragic .........John PS: no big deal-- but yesterday at least FIVE WiMilwau postings, including TWO of yours, Ashley, misspelled the word "marriages." Webmaster Bob Fay not only repeated this "grievous" mistake-- but he also appears to say (see below) that the old ten-story Waukegan hotel that I can generally can see clearly (along with the tall chimneys of the ComEd's Plant to the northeast) from the Lake Michigan shoreline just north of Evanston's Northwestern campus was VACANT. Then he apparently says in the next sentence that this hotel no longer exists. Seems you can't have it both ways. But maybe what Bob MEANT was that the RR next to the hotel (not the hotel itself) had disappeared. But, if so, Bob would here seem to be contradicting his 1/15/01 "Railroad" posting that I had archived (see excerpt below). Last evening some friends and I were rather disappointed with a Chicago Chinese restaurant we visited. I decided to order from the less expensive (but more exotic) "Chinese" menu. My "pork" dish turned out to be about 99% bok choy and fried (and mostly liquefied) tofu-- both terribly bland, until I started pouring on the Sriracha hot sauce. I was surprised to find that the "Chinese" menu at this Chinese restaurant was different from their "regular" menu. Next time I may ask for this latter menu-- or just go to a Thai eatery, which I generally prefer anyway. Or head up to Zion. No SPAM, please. But which Zion restaurants do you recommend, Chinese or otherwise. Zion was founded in 1901 as a utopian settlement by the Christian Catholic Apostolic Church-- and I suspect Zion still strictly enforces some of its old blue laws. So I'm somewhat surprised at your saying that Zion was seen for many years as a "marriage mill" by Wisconsinites. Illinois people must still must still go to "evil" Wisconsin and Indiana to buy fireworks. And, when I was a kid, WI dairy interests successfully block the instate WI selling of margarine that did not have the color of white lard. Everyday, I try to get in a two to three mile fast walk along Lake Michigan-- and today hopefully the visibility will be good enough so that I can see whether that old ten story Waukegan building has disappeared or not. Also, if I can see the FirstStar Bank building in downtown Milwaukee, I'll have fresh evidence that the earth is actually flat-- not round, as is now often assumed. And I promise that my next WiMilwau posting with focus more clearly on Milwaukee. .........John (in Chicago) ================================================ << Subj: Re: [MILWAUKEE CO] Railroads Date: 1/15/01 4:26:23 PM Central Standard Time From: madgrad77@clsurf.com (Robert W Fay) Reply-to: madgrad77@clsurf.com To: [my quoted notes followed by one of Bob's comments] > Always separate from "the Milwaukee Road" was the old Chicago & > Milwaukee RR (part of the Northwestern system since the 1860s, but > recently acquired by the Union Pacific). This was completed in 1855 > between Chicago and Milwaukee and today may only be used for > freight between the downtown Kenosha, Racine, and Milwaukee > (or has some of this line now been abandoned?) ..... I don't think any has been abandoned..... Bob >> ================================================ << Subj: Re: [WiMilwau] WI marraiges in Waukegan, ILL Date: 10/21/01 6:30:31 PM Central Daylight Time From: madgrad77@clsurf.com (Robert W Fay) Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com On 21 Oct 2001, at 17:19 Peg Mertl <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Was Waukegan Ill a 'hot spot' for marriages in the 20's ? Maybe, one would have to check Waukegan city history I suppose. However, I know that there is a 10 story Waukegan Building there as I was in it last year, and it was a fancy 1920's hotel but is now vacant. There was a north-south train that ran past the hotel, now torn out. It's near the lake so perhaps it was the equivalent to a Los Vegas wedding today. Bob Fay >> ================================================ << Subj: Re: [WiMilwau] WI marraiges in Waukegan, ILL Date: 10/21/01 9:16:03 PM Central Daylight Time From: grubisic@netwurx.net (Ashley Tiwara) Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Zion, Il quite recently has had no waiting for blood test results. You just go down there and get married. Perhaps with the AIDS virus this has changed, but it was true 15 years ago, the town was quite proud of this quirk. At that time, Milwaukee had no great Chinese restaurant and I would drive down there often to get something to eat. There was a wonderful old hotel with a 100 foot or more porch, with rockers, which had been turned into an old people's home. It burned down about the time Milwaukee acquired decent Chinese cooking, and I have seldom needed to return to Zion. Byways in genealogy, Ashley >> ================================================

On 23 Oct 2001, at 15:15 JQMagie@aol.com <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> wrote: > PS: no big deal-- but yesterday at least FIVE WiMilwau postings, > including TWO of yours, Ashley, misspelled the word "marriages." > Webmaster Bob Fay not only repeated this "grievous" mistake-- but he > also appears to say (see below) that the old ten-story Waukegan hotel > that I can generally can see clearly (along with the tall chimneys of > the ComEd's Plant to the northeast) from the Lake Michigan shoreline > just north of Evanston's Northwestern campus was VACANT. Actually, what I am saying here is that the old ten story Waukegan Hotel is vacant, as in not occupied by hotel guests, businesses, or apartments dwellers, nor has it been for a long time. I had the pleasure to tour the building with the owner last summer. If you look carefully, you will notice that there is an 80 foot antenna on the roof of the building and the building's current usage is for broadcasting. There is no one normally in the building. Then he > apparently says in the next sentence that this hotel no longer exists. > Seems you can't have it both ways. But maybe what Bob MEANT was > that > the RR next to the hotel (not the hotel itself) had disappeared. But, > if so, Bob would here seem to be contradicting his 1/15/01 "Railroad" > posting that I had archived (see excerpt below). Actually, what I am saying is that the railroad line that used to run in front of the Waukegan Hotel has been torn out. There used to be an interurban line and there used to be the North Shore Railroad, both of which are history and it must have been one of those. Its not the CNW or Milwaukee Road lines of the 1/15/01 posts....obviously those still exist. > Illinois people must still must still go to "evil" Wisconsin and > Indiana to buy fireworks. Don't think you'll be very successful buying them in Wisconsin anymore. And, when I was a kid, WI dairy interests > successfully block the instate WI selling of margarine that did not have > the color of white lard. Actually, when I was a kid we would periodically make trips down to the state line to buy that "evil" yellow colored Illinois margarine. > Everyday, I try to get in a two to three mile fast walk along Lake > Michigan-- and today hopefully the visibility will be good enough so > that I can see whether that old ten story Waukegan building has > disappeared or not. Also, if I can see the FirstStar Bank building in > downtown Milwaukee, I'll have fresh evidence that the earth is actually > flat-- not round, as is now often assumed. It's only flat in Illinois, John! Have fun, Bob

Hello list, Researching August Ludwig SCHMIDT b. 21Oct1834, Prussia.  Immigrated Wauwatosa, Milwaukee, WI in 1864.  w. Hannah, b. 1834, Prussia. child. August, b. 1860; Mary, b. 1856; Augusta, b. 1856; Willmena, b. 1868.  Also residing in the houshold, his mother, Hannah SCHMIDT, b. 1804, Prussia and a servant, Fritz BAUR, b. 1832, Prussia. Regards, Walter Walter Thomas Baschnagel wbasch8457@aol.com "Pessimism is a waste of time" Researching: RENNER - THOMAS - BASCHNAGEL - NEMETH - SMITH -HELD - SCHNEIDER - ARCHAMBAULT - TUDOR - MESIC Visit my Home Page: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/a/s/Walter-T-Baschnagel/index.html

Someone provided the following lookup for me (the email address no longer works - her name was Michelle). I subsequently checked the census for the 8th Ward and did not find my great-grandparents listed. I am wondering whether the index was published after the census was taken? Could someone check a 1900 index, see if they are listed, and let me know when it was published? See details below. Thanks, Darlene 1900 index and found Richard B. Low living in the 8th Ward in Milwaukee. > > Richard B. Low b. May 1863 (37) married 5 yrs. b. Michigan. Parents both b. > Michigan. No occupation was listed > Clara (wife) b. April 1874 (26) has had 2 children, 1 survived. b. Michigan. > Parent both b. Michigan. > Children: > Harley b. June 1889 (10) b. Michigan. Parents both b. Michigan. > James A. b. Feb. 1897 (3) b. Michigan. Parents both b. Michigan. >

Waukegan was Jack Bennys' home town. Bill Haines Laguna Hills, Ca,

I was hoping someone could do a Milwaukee directory look up for me. I'm looking for a Paul Nicholas RITTER b June 22, 1896, living and working in Milwaukee 1936 at the Goodrich store. I don't know who his wife or children were. I need to find a death date and burial information on him. thank you Lynn in Colorado

The Illinois statewide marriage index covers the years 1763-1900. http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/genealogy/marrsrch.html If your various Green marriages took place before 1900, check this database. Ashley Flowerchild417@aol.com wrote: > Is there any way to obtain these records to find a possible relative? Mine > is Eshiela Green - Ida Green - Ada Green all of Eau Claire co., WI > > Leona > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html

Is there any way to obtain these records to find a possible relative? Mine is Eshiela Green - Ida Green - Ada Green all of Eau Claire co., WI Leona

Ashley, Living down here in Waukegan now for 10 years Zion has lost many of good Chinese restaurants, I try to get them all. Another thing Waukegan had that was big by court house the genesse movie theater which they are now restoring. I know from reading the newspaper was quite a happening thing with live concerts as well as movies. jack benny was many a person who performed there. Down town Waukegan has changed a lot and they as a city are trying to get it back to being a decent area again with stores and such. tonilynn Rojas

Zion, Il quite recently has had no waiting for blood test results. You just go down there and get married. Perhaps with the AIDS virus this has changed, but it was true 15 years ago, the town was quite proud of this quirk. At that time, Milwaukee had no great Chinese restaurant and I would drive down there often to get something to eat. There was a wonderful old hotel with a 100 foot or more porch, with rockers, which had been turned into an old people's home. It burned down about the time Milwaukee acquired decent Chinese cooking, and I have seldom needed to return to Zion. Byways in genealogy, Ashley "Joseph J & Maxine M. Capezza" wrote: > I'm not sure why, but people did go down to Waukegan to get married. Do > they still do this?? I know it was still a thing in the 1930's. > > I think it might have been a quick or easy way...not a luxury or Las Vegas > type. > \At 05:19 PM 10/21/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >After a brief trip, going through filmed copies of the Milwaukee Journal > >in the 1920's I realized there were many Wisconsin folks, not all even > >from southeast Wisconsin, who were married in Waukegan, ILL. In the 1920's > >the Milwaukee Journal listed under the local marriage licenses, those who > >were , "Licensed at Waukegan" and on June 22, 1925, 14 couples were > >listed. Of those 28 people, 26 were listed as living in Wisconsin cities. > > > >Was Waukegan Ill a 'hot spot' for marriages in the 20's ? > > > >Peg > > > > > > > >============================== > >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > Pray for Peace, > Maxine Capezza > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Deanna, Your grandparents got married without their parents' permission, necessary in Wisconsin, and after the kids returned home, in great wrath and lamenting, the parents gave in and got them married again, in a ceremony everyone thought was more legal. They maybe even got a minister the second time, and had a cake and a reception. Families are fascinating, Ashley Deanna wrote: > Peg, > My granparents were first married in Waukegan Ill. in 1928.(Yet they both > lived in Waukesha). > I have 2 marriage certificates, the first in Waukegan the second showing > married in Waukesha just six days later, > My grandmother was only 15 years old at the time so I'm assuming that maybe > there was no law of age limit? Yet I can't explain why then 8 days later > they were remarried in Waukesha? Interesting! > > Deanna(Las Vegas) > > > > On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 17:19:05 -0500, WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > After a brief trip, going through filmed copies of the Milwaukee Journal > in > > the 1920's I realized there were many Wisconsin folks, not all even from > > southeast Wisconsin, who were married in Waukegan, ILL. In the 1920's the > > > Milwaukee Journal listed under the local marriage licenses, those who > were > > , "Licensed at Waukegan" and on June 22, 1925, 14 couples were > > listed. Of those 28 people, 26 were listed as living in Wisconsin > cities. > > > > Was Waukegan Ill a 'hot spot' for marriages in the 20's ? > > > > Peg > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

I live in Waukegan & while doing my research on my family who are from milw & still live there I found out my great grandmother was married right here in Waukegan. Also married on my oldest childs b-day. Waukegan is only an hour drive from mil, from what I have been my grandfather who drove a milk truck rarely had a day off decided to drive down here, to in turn back home after the ceremony. tonilynn Rojas researching: passow, kufahl, schmidt, kraetsch, stockfisch,borkowski & kobus

I'm not sure why, but people did go down to Waukegan to get married. Do they still do this?? I know it was still a thing in the 1930's. I think it might have been a quick or easy way...not a luxury or Las Vegas type. \At 05:19 PM 10/21/2001 -0500, you wrote: >After a brief trip, going through filmed copies of the Milwaukee Journal >in the 1920's I realized there were many Wisconsin folks, not all even >from southeast Wisconsin, who were married in Waukegan, ILL. In the 1920's >the Milwaukee Journal listed under the local marriage licenses, those who >were , "Licensed at Waukegan" and on June 22, 1925, 14 couples were >listed. Of those 28 people, 26 were listed as living in Wisconsin cities. > >Was Waukegan Ill a 'hot spot' for marriages in the 20's ? > >Peg > > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp Pray for Peace, Maxine Capezza

On 21 Oct 2001, at 17:19 Peg Mertl <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Was Waukegan Ill a 'hot spot' for marriages in the 20's ? Maybe, one would have to check Waukegan city history I suppose. However, I know that there is a 10 story Waukegan Building there as I was in it last year, and it was a fancy 1920's hotel but is now vacant. There was a north-south train that ran past the hotel, now torn out. It's near the lake so perhaps it was the equivalent to a Los Vegas wedding today. Bob Fay

After a brief trip, going through filmed copies of the Milwaukee Journal in the 1920's I realized there were many Wisconsin folks, not all even from southeast Wisconsin, who were married in Waukegan, ILL. In the 1920's the Milwaukee Journal listed under the local marriage licenses, those who were , "Licensed at Waukegan" and on June 22, 1925, 14 couples were listed. Of those 28 people, 26 were listed as living in Wisconsin cities. Was Waukegan Ill a 'hot spot' for marriages in the 20's ? Peg

Waukegan was a popular place to get married back in the "Twenties" because there was no waiting & no blood test. A couple could get on the train in Milwaukee, get married in Waukegan & be back home that night. . It was especially popular if a couple had to get married. Bill Haines Laguna Hills, Ca.

Peg, My granparents were first married in Waukegan Ill. in 1928.(Yet they both lived in Waukesha). I have 2 marriage certificates, the first in Waukegan the second showing married in Waukesha just six days later, My grandmother was only 15 years old at the time so I'm assuming that maybe there was no law of age limit? Yet I can't explain why then 8 days later they were remarried in Waukesha? Interesting! Deanna(Las Vegas) On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 17:19:05 -0500, WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > After a brief trip, going through filmed copies of the Milwaukee Journal in > the 1920's I realized there were many Wisconsin folks, not all even from > southeast Wisconsin, who were married in Waukegan, ILL. In the 1920's the > Milwaukee Journal listed under the local marriage licenses, those who were > , "Licensed at Waukegan" and on June 22, 1925, 14 couples were > listed. Of those 28 people, 26 were listed as living in Wisconsin cities. > > Was Waukegan Ill a 'hot spot' for marriages in the 20's ? > > Peg > > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

Yes they did thank you.. Thank you for checking for me.. Blessings Debbie -----Original Message----- From: GGraf13821@aol.com [mailto:GGraf13821@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 4:55 PM To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WiMilwau] Salt/Sault Hi Debbie, I'm way behind in my e-mail as usual. I don't know if anyone replied to you or not. There is no one listed in the Granville books by that name. Vikki ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Hi Debbie, I'm way behind in my e-mail as usual. I don't know if anyone replied to you or not. There is no one listed in the Granville books by that name. Vikki

Hi Edna, I would suggest you view the WI Vital death index records for Albert Becker (for his exact death date). . Find his obit, then perhaps find where he is buried. Other family members may be nearby. Do you know if they are Catholic? If so, contact the Archdioceses as all their cemetery records are computerized, and some are online. I can check for his death date in the near future, and his obit, if you can't access them. Also, the Golda Maer library has probate indexes at the library and there might be something on any of these family members. Hope this helps! Karen William Goodwin wrote: > Hello List > I am a new subscriber. I'm trying to help my German friend find her American family. I've succeeded up to 1935. This is the Christian & Maria Hein Becker family. I located them in the census records and then in the city directories in Salt Lake City last week. Address was on Woodlawn Ave.in 1935. Maria was a widow then. One son Albert Gustav Becker I located on the SSDI. He died in October 1972. I sent for death certificate to Vital Records, P. O. Box 309, Madison, enclosing $7 check. The check was never cashed nor any word received. Can anyone suggest how to proceed. Any suggestions on how to locate present day members of this family would be much appreciated. Edna > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp