Is there anyone on the list that lives in or near Brookfield, WI? I have a Golden Wedding Anniversary invitation (with wedding picture) for Mr. & Mrs. John Okruhlica 1916-1966. I'm wondering if there might still be family by this name living there. Peggy

Just to add my 2 cents worth: If it weren't for the North Shore RR, I wouldn't be here. That is to say, my Dad and Mom dated using the North Shore RR between where he lived (Chicago) and she lived (Milwaukee) because at that time (1930) to drive to Milwaukee was to take 4 tires in the back seat and plan on changing tires two or three times en route...so needless to Say, the North Shore was the preferable way to make the trip. ellen.barr@barrnetwork.com

Hello List, I've been quiet on the List for awhile, but I am still here always reading it in an effort to learn about life in early Milwaukee. One thing that I don't believe I have seen discussed (I might be wrong) is about the occupation of "teamster" in the 1840s and 1850s. Does anyone on the list know of any clubs/organizations that teamsters belonged to? I realize there were no unions as yet at that time, but it seemed that many occupations had their own fraternity. My GGGrandfather, Lewis Kent (born 1818), came to Milwaukee in about 1842 and worked as a teamster. He had spent 3-4 years previously in Hoboken, NJ, and I suspect he learned the trade there. He married Margaret Schmidt (daughter of Martin Schmidt and Sophie Winger) in Milwaukee and their children were born in Franklin. Eventually the family moved to Racine County in the 1870s. I know nothing about Lewis before NJ. If anyone has any information on teamsters, or might be related to these Kents/Schmidts, I would appreciate hearing from you. One more question. The name of Kent was not the original surname. He came from Germany and I suspect either changed -or had his name changed-here in the States. I have tried Kindt, Kind, Kintz, Gintz and other variations, with no luck. Does anyone have any other suggestions? It makes it difficult to take them back to Germany when you haven't the foggiest idea of the true surname! Thank you for your time and information. Laurel Campbell _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Good Morning Walter, Went through the Surname listings I have taken from my reading of now 20 histories of Milwaukee City & County and could find no records of an August Ludwig Schmidt. Sorry! Did find an August L. Schmidt listed in one history, the big 1600 + page volume by the Western Historical Association of 1881 but the dates and birth place do not match yours. Just in case your records are wrong here is what is printed: AUGUST L. SCHMIDT, manufacturer of curled hair, hair and wool mattresses, glue and hair twine, neatsfoot oil, etc. He makes a specialty of hair twine, and is the only manufacturer in the United States. It was previously only made in England, and sold to consumers in the United States at exorbitant prices. Mr. Schmidt established his business in this city on the corner of Seventh and Cherry streets, in 1857, with only $5.00 capital. His trade now extends over the entire United States. The buildings are located three-quarters of a mile went of the city limits on the Milwaukee, Watertown & Madison plant-road. He occupies nine acres, and located there in 1868. He was born in Bavaria in 1832. Is a son of Louis and Marguerite Baseneker. His father engaged in general merchandise business at wholesale. He was educated in Bavaria, and engaged in the business with his father, and traveled in the interest of the house. He came to America in 1854 and located in New York City, where he learned his present business. He came to this city in 1858. Has always been in active life, and gradually accumulated by persevering industry. Don't think this will help you but, if it does, I will be happy. Bob of Brookfield

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Thanks for those responding regarding FRIEDENS church on Ring St.; does anyone know what denomination this was/is(still there?) and would there be a contact phone # for either a denomination headquarters or the church itself?? Pastor was a "Runkel" 1892. Have the marriage cert info, just need to track down information on the groom, John/Johann Wilhelm Streese/Streise. . . he seems to have been very elusive around Milwaukee. .. Thanks so much. . Pam ______________________________________________________

In the 1892 Milw. City Directory, there's a Friedens, n.e. cor. Green Bay rd. and Ring. Rev. John L. Runkel, Pastor.

Hi List, I would like to ask someone going to the library to lookup the obit for Theodor BOCHINSKI of Poland. He died in Milwaukee on November 4, 1943. I'm hoping that there will be information in this obit to help me straighten-out this family. Thanks so much. ~Michelle

hi Michelle, I can get this for you on my next visit. Did you want me to check the probate index also? Another other Bochinskis that you want researched? Karen Michelle Campbell wrote: > Hi List, > I would like to ask someone going to the library to lookup the obit for Theodor BOCHINSKI of Poland. He died in Milwaukee on November 4, 1943. I'm hoping that there will be information in this obit to help me straighten-out this family. > Thanks so much. > ~Michelle > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

The 1889 Milwaukee City Directory does not list a Rev. Kunkel with any church. Also, Ring Street is not listed in either the 1865 or 1910 Milwaukee City Directories. Perhaps this was a church/pastor in another city within Milwaukee County. Mary Popovich

I have information from a marriage certificate from 1892 for: minister John Lewis Kunkel whose address is listed as 328 Ring St. Could anyone tell me the name of this church, if it's still there, denomination, and area of town this is in?? Would the pastor have been around for awhile? Thanks so much for any help again. .. .Pam ______________________________________________________ > > >

Given the historic importance of wooden type in printing the documents of the 19th century, I thought the list might enjoy knowing of this workshop, of the renown special collection section of the UWM library, and of the internationally known wood type museum in Two Rivers. Contact Max Yela, who sent this notice out just Wednesday the 24th, for more information, please. If you haven't already made your plans for Friday and Saturday, consider this. The type museum has previously not had regular hours and this may be your best opportunity to see it, especially with knowledgeable guides. Ashley Max Yela wrote: > The Typocrafters, an organization of individuals interested in the design, form, and use of printing type, and the study and practice of typography, will hold their 2001 meeting this Friday, October 26, in UWM's Special Collections, fourth floor of the Golda Meir Library. On Saturday, the group will head up to the Hamilton Wood Type and Printing Museum in Two Rivers, Wisconsin. This meeting and the tour in Two Rivers is FREE AND OPEN TO ALL who wish to attend. > > Here's the schedule: > > Friday, October 26 > > 9:00am > Meet at Special Collections in the Golda Meir Library > Welcome to UWM > Richard Zauft, Associate Dean > Peck School of the Arts > > Welcome to the Golda Meir Library Special Collection > Max Yela, Head > Special Collections > > 9:15am-10:30am > Presentations and discussion of press work by nationally recognized Stevens Point letterpress printers and book artists > Caren Heft, Arcadia Press, and Jeffery Morin, sailorBoypress > > 10:30-11:00am > Fourth Floor Exhibition Gallery, Golda Meir Library > View Exhibition on Hamilton Wood Type and Printing Museum > Presentation by Richard Zauft > > 11:00-1:30pm > Lunch break > > 1:30-4:00pm > Meet at Special Collections in the Golda Meir Library > Presentation by Max Yela, Head of Special Collections > * General introduction to the collection. > * Focus specifically on collections of contemporary fine-press printing and examples of materials documenting the history of printing and publishing. Examples of contemporary printing including a wide variety of mainly American printers from throughout the US, especially Wisconsin and Minnesota. > * Historical pieces, including incunabula, Aldus, Second Folio Shakespeare, 1st illustrated edition of Paradise Lost, Baskerville > imprints, William Morris and the Kelmscott Press, and early 20th-century presses such as Golden Cockerel, Shakespeare Head, Philosopher Press, etc. > * Demonstrate the collection as a useful resource for members of the Typocrafters > > Evening open > *************************************** > Saturday, October 27 > > 9:00am > Depart for Two Rivers, Wisconsin > > 10:30am > Arrive at Two Rivers > > 10:30am-11:30am > Tour of Hamilton Wood Type and Printing Museum > > 11:30am-1:00pm > Lunch break > > 1:00pm-5:00pm > Printing workshop with wood type > Instructor: Richard Zauft > > 5:00pm-6:00pm > Social hour, Light House Inn > Host: Jim Van Lanon, Two Rivers Historical Society > > 6:00pm-8:00pm > Dinner meeting > > 8:00pm > Depart for Milwaukee > > 9:30pm > Arrive in Milwaukee > > For more information contact Richard Zauft at 414.229.4259, or at zauft@uwm.edu > ******************************************** > The exhibition in the Fourth Floor Exhibition Gallery, "New Work from the Hamilton Wood Type and Printing Museum, Two Rivers, Wisconsin," will be on view through February 1, 2002. The exhibition presents historical examples from the Hamilton Wood Type Manufacturing Company, one of the leading wood type manufacturers in the country founded in 1880 and in operation until the early 1980s; and original typographic prints by Richard Zauft, professor in the UWM Department of Visual Art and associate dean of UWM's Peck School of the Arts, and Dennis Ichiyama, professor in the Department of Visual and Performing Arts at Purdue University, West Lafayette, Indiana. > > The meeting and the exhibition have been organized by Bad Water Book Club member Richard Zauft, associate dean of UWM's Peck School of the Arts, founder of UWM's Book Arts Workshop, and co-founder with Max Yela of the annual Book FOR[u]Ms Book Artist Speaker Series at the Golda Meir Library. > > ******************************* > Max Yela > Head, Special Collections > Golda Meir Library > UW-Milwaukee > Milwaukee, WI 53211 > Tel: 414.229.4345 > Fax: 414.229.6791 > Email: maxyela@uwm.edu > Web: www.uwm.edu/Dept/Library/special

While I'm sure there were some elopements because of unwed pregnancies, that's certainly not the only answer. My grandmother's sister eloped to Waukegan in 1920 and she never had any children at all. On the other hand, there are many marriages in Milwaukee parish registers followed by "premature" births. I once ran into one where the couple got married one day and had the baby the next. Maybe they weren't sure she'd make to Waukegan without going into labor! That marriage, incidentally, was NOT performed at the bride's church as was usually the case. Mary Popovich

When you ask yourself......."Why Waukegan? .........and you remember all of the old family stories you heard about "no blood tests", "no long waiting period", "no requirement to have reached the age of 18", the ease of reaching it in an hour via the North Shore train, etc, etc. Think of small booties, Brahm's Lullaby, premature babies born 2 months early that weighed 9#... etc, etc.

Hi all, It's easy to forget that southeastern Wisconsin and northeastern Illinois were the home of an astonishing network of streetcars and interurban railroads from the 1890's up to 1963. There was The Milwaukee Electric Railroad and Light company (which I think may be the forerunner of Wisconsin Electric), the Bluff City Electric Railway Company in Waukegan, the Milwaukee-Racine-Kenosha Interurban, the Chicago- Kenosha-Milwaukee Electric Railroad, and lots of others that variously were merged, bankrupted and in other ways eventually combined to form the Northshore Railroad. There were also some that went east-west railroads as part of the network. It's easy to see how someone could get married anywhere on these train lines. Much to my surprise there actually were two Northshore rail lines at one time,. One was called the Chicago-Northshore-Milwaukee East Line and it went through downtown Waukegan. It was removed long ago. The other was called the Chicago-Northshore-Milwaukee West Line and it survived till the early 1960's. There's a couple of good books on them. "Northshore Line Memories" by George V Campbell, 1980, Quality Books Inc, Northbrook, Illinois and "North Shore, America's Fastest Interurban" by William D Middleton, 1964, Golden West Books, Marino, CA. I posted a map of the interurban railroad lines in downtown Waukegan at http://www.clsurf.com/fay/NorthshoreFrame1Source1.htm You couldn't go far without running into one. Not to get off the subject too far, for those interested in John McCaffrey and the abolition of capital punishment in Wisconsin there is an extensive collection of newspaper and other accounts at http://www.clsurf.com/fay/McCaffreyFrame1Source1.htm Also, there is a "start" to a collection of Increase Lapham's 1850 detailed survey drawings of the Indian Mounds in Wisconsin at the time at http://www.clsurf.com/fay/Indian%20MoundsFrame1Source1.htm They are large, detailed and slow to download. We're also trying to get a mail list just dedicated to the Indian Mounds and cultures started. Bob Fay On 24 Oct 2001, at 6:05 Lafe Nelson <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> wrote: > The old North Shore Line runs about 2 blocks from my home. It is now > used by the electric Co. for hi voltage transmission lines. A lot of the > overpasses on the line have been blown up or dismantled. > > Lafe > > Robert W Fay wrote: > > > > On 23 Oct 2001, at 15:15 JQMagie@aol.com <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> > > wrote: > > > PS: no big deal-- but yesterday at least FIVE WiMilwau > > > postings, > > > including TWO of yours, Ashley, misspelled the word "marriages." > > > Webmaster Bob Fay not only repeated this "grievous" mistake-- but he > > > also appears to say (see below) that the old ten-story Waukegan > > > hotel that I can generally can see clearly (along with the tall > > > chimneys of the ComEd's Plant to the northeast) from the Lake > > > Michigan shoreline just north of Evanston's Northwestern campus was > > > VACANT. > > > > Actually, what I am saying here is that the old ten story Waukegan > > Hotel is vacant, as in not occupied by hotel guests, businesses, or > > apartments dwellers, nor has it been for a long time. I had the > > pleasure to tour the building with the owner last summer. If you look > > carefully, you will notice that there is an 80 foot antenna on the > > roof of the building and the building's current usage is for > > broadcasting. There is no one normally in the building. > > > > Then he > > > apparently says in the next sentence that this hotel no longer > > > exists. > > > Seems you can't have it both ways. But maybe what Bob MEANT > > > was that > > > the RR next to the hotel (not the hotel itself) had disappeared. > > > But, if so, Bob would here seem to be contradicting his 1/15/01 > > > "Railroad" posting that I had archived (see excerpt below). > > > > Actually, what I am saying is that the railroad line that used to run > > in front of the Waukegan Hotel has been torn out. There used to be an > > interurban line and there used to be the North Shore Railroad, both of > > which are history and it must have been one of those. Its not the CNW > > or Milwaukee Road lines of the 1/15/01 posts....obviously those still > > exist. > > > > > Illinois people must still must still go to "evil" Wisconsin > > > and > > > Indiana to buy fireworks. > > > > Don't think you'll be very successful buying them in Wisconsin > > anymore. > > > > And, when I was a kid, WI dairy interests > > > successfully block the instate WI selling of margarine that did not > > > have the color of white lard. > > > > Actually, when I was a kid we would periodically make trips down to > > the state line to buy that "evil" yellow colored Illinois margarine. > > > > > Everyday, I try to get in a two to three mile fast walk along > > > Lake > > > Michigan-- and today hopefully the visibility will be good enough so > > > that I can see whether that old ten story Waukegan building has > > > disappeared or not. Also, if I can see the FirstStar Bank building > > > in downtown Milwaukee, I'll have fresh evidence that the earth is > > > actually flat-- not round, as is now often assumed. > > > > It's only flat in Illinois, John! > > > > Have fun, > > Bob > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 > > Days http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > >

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The old North Shore Line runs about 2 blocks from my home. It is now used by the electric Co. for hi voltage transmission lines. A lot of the overpasses on the line have been blown up or dismantled. Lafe Robert W Fay wrote: > > On 23 Oct 2001, at 15:15 JQMagie@aol.com <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > PS: no big deal-- but yesterday at least FIVE WiMilwau postings, > > including TWO of yours, Ashley, misspelled the word "marriages." > > Webmaster Bob Fay not only repeated this "grievous" mistake-- but he > > also appears to say (see below) that the old ten-story Waukegan hotel > > that I can generally can see clearly (along with the tall chimneys of > > the ComEd's Plant to the northeast) from the Lake Michigan shoreline > > just north of Evanston's Northwestern campus was VACANT. > > Actually, what I am saying here is that the old ten story Waukegan Hotel > is vacant, as in not occupied by hotel guests, businesses, or apartments > dwellers, nor has it been for a long time. I had the pleasure to tour the > building with the owner last summer. If you look carefully, you will notice > that there is an 80 foot antenna on the roof of the building and the > building's current usage is for broadcasting. There is no one normally in > the building. > > Then he > > apparently says in the next sentence that this hotel no longer exists. > > Seems you can't have it both ways. But maybe what Bob MEANT was > > that > > the RR next to the hotel (not the hotel itself) had disappeared. But, > > if so, Bob would here seem to be contradicting his 1/15/01 "Railroad" > > posting that I had archived (see excerpt below). > > Actually, what I am saying is that the railroad line that used to run in front > of the Waukegan Hotel has been torn out. There used to be an interurban > line and there used to be the North Shore Railroad, both of which are > history and it must have been one of those. Its not the CNW or > Milwaukee Road lines of the 1/15/01 posts....obviously those still exist. > > > Illinois people must still must still go to "evil" Wisconsin and > > Indiana to buy fireworks. > > Don't think you'll be very successful buying them in Wisconsin anymore. > > And, when I was a kid, WI dairy interests > > successfully block the instate WI selling of margarine that did not have > > the color of white lard. > > Actually, when I was a kid we would periodically make trips down to the > state line to buy that "evil" yellow colored Illinois margarine. > > > Everyday, I try to get in a two to three mile fast walk along Lake > > Michigan-- and today hopefully the visibility will be good enough so > > that I can see whether that old ten story Waukegan building has > > disappeared or not. Also, if I can see the FirstStar Bank building in > > downtown Milwaukee, I'll have fresh evidence that the earth is actually > > flat-- not round, as is now often assumed. > > It's only flat in Illinois, John! > > Have fun, > Bob > > ============================== > Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238

Forwarded from the Miller mailing list at Rootsweb. A lovely Civil War site for which I have not seen postings. Hoping this helps, Ashley Jay & Carol Menges wrote: > Has everyone seen this? > http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.htm > > --Carol

I hope this is not off topic, but many of us are searching for relatives and sending for certs in other lands. . . In participating with some German mailing lists, I discovered a WONDERFUL site full of Frequently Asked Questions regarding searching Germany, etc, lots of websites, etc. (some new, some I'd seen before. . . ) Anyway, within the article, is a phone number for International Currency Express Inc, 1-888-278-6628; they apparently will send wire transfers much cheaper than most banks and a check drawn in foreign currency(ANYWHERE) for only $5. Noone around here in CA seemed to know about this; I haven't tried to use them yet myself, but thought I'd pass this on, just in case there was someone else out there like me who hadn't heard about this. .. hope it helps someone. . . the website for the German info is: http://genealogy.net/gene/faqs/sgg.html Sincerely, Pam ____________________________________________________ >

Waukegan was a popular place, I believe because there was no waiting period on licenses. My parents were married there also. Does anyone know if Waukegan marriage information is available on the internet? J. -----Original Message----- From: Peg Mertl <gmertl@worldnet.att.net> To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, October 21, 2001 5:15 PM Subject: [WiMilwau] WI marraiges in Waukegan, ILL >After a brief trip, going through filmed copies of the Milwaukee Journal in >the 1920's I realized there were many Wisconsin folks, not all even from >southeast Wisconsin, who were married in Waukegan, ILL. In the 1920's the >Milwaukee Journal listed under the local marriage licenses, those who were >, "Licensed at Waukegan" and on June 22, 1925, 14 couples were >listed. Of those 28 people, 26 were listed as living in Wisconsin cities. > >Was Waukegan Ill a 'hot spot' for marriages in the 20's ? > >Peg > > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >