Hi, I just did a bit of Research at the Milwaukee County Courthouse. Wondering if anyone might be researching this line: HOPPE/WITTMANN Marriage Certificate Filed in Milwaukee, Wisconsin: HOPPE, Ray and Anita Wittman May 22, 1926; Vol 361 page 159 Raymond J. HOPPE of Milwaukee, Wisconsin and Anita WITTMAN of Milwaukee, Wisconsin Vol 361 page 159 Groom: Raymond J. HOPPE: 921-23rd Street; aged 22--1st marriage; occupation: Machinist s/o William F. HOPPE and Elizabeth SCHRAMM Bride: 550-10th Street; aged 23, 1st marriage; occupation: Forelady d/o Martin WITMAN and Sofie FUTERER Other WITTMANN found in Probate Files in Milwaukee, Wisconsin: WITTMANN, Marin R.--421-233; Date of Death: 29 June 1966; Survivorship 14 December 1966 Please contact me at: apetta@netwurx.net Thank You, Susan

HOPPE, Herbert Otto and Lorraine Isabelle LINGER November 14, 1919; Vol 293 page 255 HOPPE, Walter O and Elizabeth Bruckner February 27, 1924; Vol 338 page 245 HOPPE Births: HOPPE, Harvey Vol 508 page 252, Certificate # 9423 white, male Name of Father: Wm. HOPPW, carpenter, born in Germany Name of Mother: Elizabeth SCHRANE (?), Housewife, born in Germany Date of Birth: 19 November 1910 at 9:00 AM address: 770--25th Street; 22nd Ward 9th child of mother; 7 living Ulricka RADKE, midwife; address: 905--22nd St. HOPPE, Ralph Arthur Vol 552 page 258, Certificate # 8208 white, male Name of Father: Wm. F. HOPPE Name of Mother: Elizabeth SCHRAMM (original record spelling corrected) Address: 770--25th Street HOPPE, Raymond Vol 347 page 180 white, male Name of Father: Gustav HOOPE Name of Mother: Helena LEITZKE HOPPE, Flora Vol 386 page 398, Certificate # 1254 white, female Date of Birth: Monday, 23 January 1905 at 4:00 AM Name of Father: Wm. HOPPE; occupation: Scavenger, born in Germany Name of Mother: Lizzie SCHRAM (single "M" om record), born in Germany Frederekie WIRTH, midwife, 663--19th St HOPPE, Irma (original corrected from Emma) Certificate # 4708 white, female Name of Father: Wm. F. A. HOPPE, carpenter born in Germany Name of Mother: Elizabeth SCHRAMM born in Germany Date of Birth: Wednesday, 17 July 1895 at 11:00 PM Address of Birth: 4 Cawker Point, Milwaukee Siblings living: Rosa Frederica WIRTH, midwife HOPPE, Fred Vol 259, Page 198 white, male Name of Father: Willie HOPPE, laborman, born in Germany Name of Mother: Louisa SCHRAM (single "M" on record), born in Germany Date of Birth: Thurdsay, 26 August 1897 at 4:00AM Address of Birth: 2326 Galena St. Ulricka RADKE, midwife, address: 2019 Vine Street HOPPE, Herbert Otto Daniel Vol 293 page 163 Certificate # 5211 white, male Name of Father: Wm. HOPPE, Scavenger, born in Germany Name of Mother: Elizabeth SCHRAMM Date of Birth: Tuesday, 8 August 1899 at 4:00 AM Address of Birth: 838--26th Street Other living Siblings: Lillie, Rosa and Fred Fredarecke WIRTH, midwife, residence: North 663--19th Street Other HOPPE Probate Records: HOPPE Wm--11 Feb 1927 HOPPE, William F. A.--Certificate of Survivorship; Date of Filing 23 June 1942; Microfilm Roll # 1072 HOPPE, Elizabeth--19 July 1966 Please contact me at: apetta@netwurx.net Thank You, Susan

Hi, I just did a bit of Research at the Milwaukee County Courthouse. Wondering if anyone might be researching these lines: LINGER/LENGER: LINGER: Anna 62597 Administration Vol 107 page 397; Filed 17 October 1925; Recorded Vol 387 page 37 Anna--Certificate of Survivorship; 67697 Administration Vol 117 p 497; Date of Filing 21 April 1927 Christian--35440 Administration Vol 53 p 351 (No Dates of ..??) Eva--46192; microfilm number 1401; Vol 74 page 492; Filed 22 January 1920; Recorded Vol 321 page 241 Joseph--225-386 Administration; Date of Filing 9 June 1942; Certificate of Survivorship Joseph 220-521; roll 1353; Date of Filing14 October 1941; Recorded Vol 777 p3 Minnie--319-587; microfilm roll 1431; Will Vol 319 page 587; Date of Filing 9 April 1953 LENGER: Anna--408-522; Date of Death: 11 January 1965 Bertha--374--904 Will; microfilm #1947; Date of Filing 22 September 1959; Date of Death 28 July 1959 Henry--84954 Administration Vol 151 page 4; Date of Filing 1 November 1931 Herman M.--Address 2525 North 36th Street; Date of Death: 19 January 1969; Will 23 January 1969 John Sr.--88871 Will Vol 158 page 71; Date of Filing 30 December 1932; Vol 573 page 49 John H.--414-855; Will 12 January 1966 Anthony--554-846 Will only; 4147 North 94th Street, Wauwatosa; created 16 July 1993; Date of Birth 12 January 1910; Date of Death 4 March 1993 Please contact me at: apetta@netwurx.net Thank You, Susan

Hi, I just did a bit of Research at the Milwaukee County Courthouse. Wondering if anyone might be researching this line: OTT OTT's found in Probate Files in Milwaukee, Wisconsin: George--95076 Vol 169, page 226; Certificate of Survivorship/Date of Filing 22 August 1934 George F.--41610; Vol 65-page 410; Petition Filed 7 March 1918 Vol 295-page 393 George T.--80944; Vol 143-page 394; Certificate of Survivorship/Date of Filing: 13 October 1930 John 3476; microfilm 45; recorded Vol 14 page 60 John vol 374 page 039; microfilm roll 1938; Date of Filing 27 July 1959 John DOF 8 Sepember 1953 John--110,842; Certificate of Survivorship 25 April 1938 John--8 September 1937 John Sr.--Date of Filing 14 Feb 1938 John V.--3800 North 92nd Street; Date of Death 31 May 1975; Will 12 June 1975 Joseph--Date of Filing (DOF):23 February 1940 Joseph J.--5519 West Washington Blvd; Date of Death: 29 April 1927 **Alois--70124--Date of Filing: 31 December 1927; Will/Court: 122 page 424; --Recorded Vol 460-605; Vol 448--567 Ben--71670-- Date of Filing 12 May 1928; Vol 125 page 470; Vol 433 page 61 Katharina (Catherine)--Vol 230 page 286; Date of Filing 23 February 1943 Katharina--43378--Date of Filing 17 December 1918; Vol 69 page 178; Vol 322 page 577; Bl 464 page 7 Katherine--68239--Vol 119 page 39; Date of Filing 21 June 1927 Vol 451--253 Please contact me at: apetta@netwurx.net Thank You, Susan

Hi, I just did a bit of Research at the Milwaukee County Courthouse. Wondering if anyone might be researching this line: KUJAT: Death Certificates found at Milwaukee County Courthouse: Carl Frank KUJAT of 3641b East Munkwitz Avenue; Cudahy, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin 1937 Served in Armed Forces male. white, single Date of Death: 1 Feb 1937 at 9:45 PM aged 46 Years 1 Month 30 Days Primary Cause of Death: Coronary Sclerosis Secondary: Chronia alcoholism Last Job: C.C.C. Camp--Laborer Date last worked at above occupation: March 1926 Total time spent in occupation: 2 years Birthplace: Freeland, Pennsylvania Father: John KUJAT Mother: Pelagia NOWAK Informant: John KUJAT; 3863 East Martin Ave, Cudahy, Wisconsin (brother) Burial: National Home Cemetery on 5 February Funeral Director: Frank Konwinski; 3774 East Underwood Avenue, Cudahy, Wisconsin Coroner: Frank P. Schultz John Bernard KUJAT Usual Residence: 3932 East Edgerton Avenue, Cudahy, Wisconsin white, male, married (spouse Mrs. Helen Kujat) Date of Birth: 18 May 1892 in Freeland, Pennsylvania aged 53 years, 9 Months, 23 Days WWI Veteran; SSN: unk Occupation: Machinist Father: (blank) Mother: (blank) Informant: General Hospital Records, Wood, Wisconsin Burial/Released: 16 March 1946; V.A. Cemetery; Milwaukee, Wisconsin Funeral Home: Konwinski Funeral Home, 3774 East Underwood Avenue, Cudahy, Wisconsin Date of Death: 11 March 1946 12:00 AM Attended Deceased from 26 Feb 1946 to 11 March 1946; Last seen alive on 11 March 1946 Dr. J. F. Bresnahan M.D., Clinical Director Cause of Death: Heart Disease due to coronary arteriosclerosis; Coronary occlusion; Myocardial insufficiency Embolism, arterial Contributing Cause: Diabetes Mellitus John--256-062; Certificate of Survivorship; Filed 19 March 1946; Microfilm Roll #1184 Other KUJAT's Found in Milwaukee County: Fred--2834 South 53rd St.; Date of Death: 11 January 1911 Please contact me at: apetta@netwurx.net Thank you, Susan

Hi, I just did a bit of Research at the Milwaukee County Courthouse. Wondering if anyone might be researching this line: WILLING, Gottlieb--not found in Milwaukee County Death Certs WILLING, Irma E. wife of Gottlieb (nee HOPPE), died 18 Jun 1963; 5665-1962 Death Certificate 3283 Irma Emily WILLING Residence: 4371 North 29th Street; Milwaukee, 9, Wisconsin Date of Death: 18 June 1963; white; female; married Date of Birth: 17 July 1895; aged 67 years Occupation: Housework in own home Father: William HOPPE Mother: Elizabeth Schramm No service in American Armed Forces SSN: 387-07-1923B Informant: Mr. Gottlieb J. WILLING; aged 68; husband of deceased; Cause of Death: Congestive Heart Failure duration 3-4 months; Arteriosclerotic Heart Disease duration 5 years Other significant information: Metastisis left axilla from Cancer of left breast operated 1949 Attended deceased: 25 September 1940-18 June 1963; Last seen alive: 17 June 1963 Died at 10:20 pm; 18 June 1963; Dr. Donald C. Ausman M.D.; 3700 North 27th St.; Milwaukee, Wisconsin Burial 21 June 1963 in Wanderer's Rest Cemetery; Milwaukee, Wisconsin Funeral Home: FRANZEN, JUNG, KAUFMANN, Inc.; 4211 North 76th St.; Milwaukee, 22, Wisconsin Other WILLING's found in death certificates in Milwaukee, Wisconsin: --Theresa died 18 September 1984--7280 --Robert P. died 24 May 1986--2896 --Floyd F. died 6 January 1983--275 --Edward P. died 9 October 1981--7825 --Joseph died 10 July 1979--5238 --Mary L. died 24 May 1978--4447 Other WILLING's found in Probate Files in Milwaukee, Wisconsin: Irma--398-214; DOD 6/18/63; Will 6/24/63; Survivorship 6/24/63 Arthur--63284-a minor-guardianship Elizabeth--64025; Vol 110 page 325; Certificate of Survivorship filed 7 April 1926 Floyd F.--512-078; DOD 1/6/83; Will 1/11/83 George P.--485-221; address: 3138 Menomonee River Parkway; DOD 2/11/77; Will 2/22/77 Gerald--560-219; Estate/Special Administration; 8761 South County Drive #102--53154; Oak Creek; DOB 3/20/25; DOD 7/12/93 Gerald A.--511-599; Guardianship 12/2/82 Henry--253-123; Date of Filing: 19 Nov 1948; microfilm roll 1174; Vol 931 page 10 Certificate of Survivorship 253-119; Date of Filing 19 Nov 1945 # 1174 Hilda M. and Arthur--63284; Vol 109 page 84, filed 30 December 1926 Joseph--496-847; Address: 8221 West Burleigh St.; Date of Death 10 July 1979; Will 3 August 1979 Lydia--524-090; Will only; Address: 4215 North 100th St; Date of Death 10 October 85 Mable--561-599; Estates/Informal Proceeding; Address: 6815 North Elm Tree Rd.; Glendale Date of Birth: 7 May 1916; Date of Death: 9 October 1993 Mary L.--492-617; Address: 2175 South 91st St.; Date of Death 24 May 1978; wife of Floyd F. WILLING Will: 31 August 1978 Richard--451-677; Date of Death 26 March 1971; Survivorship 25 May 1971 Zora M.--457-223; Date of Death 23 August 1971; Survivorship 24 March 1972 Another WILLING Death Certifcate viewed: Edward Paul WILLING white, male, aged 27, married (spouse: Madalyn L. nee Malone) Date of Birth: 9 July 1954 SSN: 390-62-4103 Occupation: Laborer, County Park Commission; 2424 West Howard Avenue 53221 Father: Robert D. WILLING Mother: Ruth L. Lieske Informant: spouse: Madalyn L. WILLING (nee Malone) Cemetery: Forest Home Cemetery Funeral: PROSSER-KLECZKA; 3275 South Howell Milwaukee, Wisconsin Cause of Death: Shock-Hypovolemia secondary to severe diarrha Other Contributing factors: Testicular Cancer Please contact me at: apetta@netwurx.net Thank you, Susan

Hi, I just did a bit of Research at the Milwaukee County Courthouse. Wondering if anyone might be researching this line: NENNING, Peter died 13 May 1970 Vol 4475 page 1970 parents were John NENNING and Angelina NENNING (nee FOX) Death Certificate on file at Milwaukee County Courthouse" #812 Peter NENNING white, male, aged 66, married Date of Birth: 23 August 1903 in Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Location of Death: Within Wauwatosa City Limits Dead on Arrival at County General Hospital Born in Wisconsin, USA Surviving Spouse: Alvina ULBING SSN: 387-05-9194A Retired Department Manager/Sears Residence: 3013 North 18th Street; Father: John NENNING Mother: Angela FOX Informant: Alvina NENNING, 3013 North 18th Street; In Armed Forces WWII Cause of Death: Hypertensive Arteriosclerotic Heart Disease Date of Death: 13 May 1970 2:39 AM Dr. H. C. Young M.D. Burial: Holy Cross Cemetery, Milwaukee, Wisconsin Burial 16 May 1970 Funeral Home: ZWASKA, 2400 West Center Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53206 John Clarence NENNING (Peter NENNING) #5527 Teamster white, male Name of Father: John NENNIG born in Wisconsin Angeline FOX born in Wisconsin Date of Birth: Sunday, 23 August 1903 at 4:30 AM Address of Birth: 265--7th Street Other Living Siblings: Katie, Mike, Angeline Probate Records: Peter E. NENNING--445-195; 3013 North 18th Street; Date of Death 13 May 1970; Will: 5 June 1970 Flora Alma NENNING--483-119; Address: 3203 West Boblink; Date of Death: 9 December 1975; Summary Assignment 14 September 1976 Alvina NENNNG--7800 West Fon du Lac Ave.; Date of Birth: 28 Feb 1912; Date of Death: 11 November 1993 Please contact me at: apetta@netwurx.net Thank you, Susan

Hi, I just did a bit of Research at the Milwaukee County Courthouse. Wondering if anyone might be researching this line: HOPPE/SMRZ Marriage Certificate Filed in Milwaukee, Wisconsin: September 6, 1919; Vol 290 page 470 Fredrick Albert HOPPE of Milwaukee, Wisconsin and Anna SMRZ of Milwaukee, Wisconsin Vol 290, page 470, Certificate # 78226 6 September 1919 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin Witnesses: Mrs. C. D. REICHLE and Richard REICHLE Groom: Fred A. HOPPE: 2442 Elm Street; aged 22, 1st marriage; born in Milwaukee; occupation: Garment Cutter s/o William HOPPE and Elizabeth SCHRAMM Bride: Anna SMRZ: 854-38th St., aged 23-1st marriage, born in Milwaukee; occupation: Shoe Worker d/o John SMRZ and Agnes STOJANEK Other SMRZ's found in Probate Files in Milwaukee, Wisconsin: Agnes--Date of Filing: 31 October 1945 Alois--Date of Filing: 13 May 1932 Anna-- Survivorship: 22 January 1932 Anton--Date of Death: 6 June 1981; Will 29 June 1981 Anton--Date of Filing: 17 January 1944 Celia M.--8 January 1958; Survivorship: 21 July 1965 Clement A.--Date of Filing; Date of Filing 8 September 1954 Elizabeth--3333 West Highland Blvd.; created 27 March 1991; Date of Birth: 5 January 1903; Date of Death: 13 November 1990 Frank J.--10 August 1949 Certificate of Survivorship Jerald--Minor: 8 September 1954 John--Date of Filing: 3 June 1946; Certificate of Survivorship John--Joint Will; Date of Filing: 31 October 1945 Joseph (Josef)--Date of Filing: 11 March 1940 Joseph A.--Will created 30 April 1964 Josephine A.--Survivorship: 22 October 1946 Josephine-- Date of Filing: 22 October 1946 Lillian--Certificate of Survivorship 6 October 1954 Loretta T.--Address 3333 West Highland Ave.; Date of Death: 26 April 1982; Will 14 May 1982 Mary--Date of Filing 20 January 1955 Mathais--Survivorship 9 June 1928 Mathilda-- 6 September 1933 Richard Sr.--Will created 27 January 1997; Date of Birth: 11 January 1911; Date of Death: 19 November 1996 Walburga--Date of Death 27 Feb 1973; Will 9 March 1973; Survivorship: 29 March 1973 (No Louis SMRZ found) Please contact me at: apetta@netwurx.net Thank you, Susan

I recently sent for the Civil War Record of my Great-Grandfather Frederick Kufahl. In a sworn statement given by Frederick at the time of appling for a Civil War Pension he states that all birth certificates and other Possesions for the Kufahl family were lost in a fire on the train in Buffalo, New York as they came cross country from New York City to Milwaukee, Wisconsin in 1852. Carol from Long Island, New York

Colleen, etc., from John (in Chicago)-- I haven't studied this recently, but I feel fairly sure there were no railroads in Wisconsin nor northern Illinois until about 1849-1850. The 1855 completion of what became the NorthWestern line between Chicago, Waukegan, Kenosha, Racine, and Milwaukee did, however, open up a continuous railroad link between New York City (via Albany, NY) and Milwaukee, WI. I just took a quick look at Darci's migration website that Bob Fay kindly pointed out today in a GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com posting. Looks like there's some good stuff here at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~darci/index2.htm#three One migration example of the 1840s relates to my own ancestor Jonathan Magie (1823-1901), who arrived in Milwaukee from Elizabeth, NJ, in early 1848, via the seemingly very circuitous route summarized below. Had he not planned an intermediate stop in Cincinnati, my guess is that he might have traveled more directly between Buffalo and Milwaukee by Great Lakes ship. But possibly the cold weather at the north end of Lake Michigan in early 1848 may also have discouraged him from following this particular route. Instead, a 1901 letter of his (I have this) indicates that he traveled from NJ to Albany (NY) by Hudson River boat, from Albany to Buffalo via a series of different railroads, from Buffalo to Toledo via Lake Erie ship, and then from Toledo to Cincinnati via the Miami & Erie Canal (opened in 1845). After visiting relatives in Cincinnati, he then traveled by steamboat via the Ohio, Mississippi, and Illinois rivers to La Salle, IL. But note that prior to 1845 a traveler could also take an older Ohio canal that linked Lake Erie and the Ohio River-- the 1832 Ohio & Erie Canal that headed south from Cleveland. The Illinois & Michigan Canal, linking La Salle and Chicago, was opened in late April of 1848. This was a very primitive canal, portions of which still exist. But its 1848 completion also led directly to Chicago's emergence as a major world transportation hub. In any case, Jonathan appears to have been one of the very first people to arrive in Chicago via the new I & M Canal. A few days later, on May 1, 1848, he finally reached Milwaukee, probably arriving from Chicago by Lake Michigan ship. "When I left Cincinnati, peach trees were in bloom," Jonathan wrote from his Milwaukee home a few months before his death there on 30 Aug 1901. "When I struck this town I thought I had reached the Polar regions. When I got to the Hotel [probably Milwaukee's old US Hotel, destroyed by fire in 1855] there was a big box stove that had about a quarter of a cord of wood it, and the heat felt GOOD..... Uncle John [John Ogden, 1801-1891] came here in 1836 and he made the whole trip from New Jersey on horseback....." _______________________________________________________ << Subj: Re:1860 Migration Route Date: 12/8/01 10:46:07 AM Central Standard Time From: JQMagie To: GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com In 1860 New York City and Beloit and Janesville in Rock Co., WI, were completely linked by railroads. So my guess is that your ancestor just hopped on a train. .........John (in Chicago) >> ____________________ << << Subj: 1860 Migration Route Date: 12/8/01 10:21:45 AM Central Standard Time From: corrine@ez-net.com (Corrine Brown) To: GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com My ancestor was found in NY in the 1860 Census and by 1865 was found in Rock Co, WI. Does anyone know which route they would take and also could someone direct me to a map tht would show the trail the ancestor would take in 1865 from New York to Wisconsin? I have been searching on the net but have not had much luck. >> >> _______________________________________________________ << Subj: Re: 1860 Migration Route Date: 12/8/01 11:48:50 AM Central Standard Time From: cschr84651@aol.com To: jqmagie@aol.com Does this also hold true for 1844? My family came from Essex Co., NY to Milwaukee, Wis then. Thanks in advance. Colleen >> _________________________________________________________

Hi Susan, Here are names you and I have in common so far: Viola Susan Gengler married Nicholas Thelen of Theimsville 1917, they had six children, Nick was the son of Peter and Maria [Mueller]Thelen. I have Clenentina Langer who married Paul Schmit, April 1871 at St. Catherine's Church, Granville, WI, Fr. August Durst officiating. Mr. and Mrs. A. J. Gengler would have been Adam and Maria [Kolbach] Gengler who lived in Granville, WI. Adam was the son of Adam and Katherine [Kaber] Gengler who immigrated in 1846 and I am directly descended from another son of theirs, Johann Gengler. Their Catholic Parish was St. Catherine's of Alexandria, Granville, WI. Here is a brief history of some rural Milwaukee Co. pioneer Catholic Churches that may be of help to those researching Catholic families: Part of St. Catherine's early records were lost in a fire. I have recreated some of the early records of marriages, births and deaths of my ancestors and their children in that parish. In St. Catherine's Church history it states that St. Anthony the Hermit Church was a small log church built in 1846 at the direction of Father Maria Anton Meyer to serve the need of widely scattered families. In August 1847 he left and Father Anton Urbanek succeeded him. Fr. Urbanek stayed until Jan 1850 when he moved to a place about three miles east called Engelsburg [West Granville], Milwaukee Co., WI, where he built a new church and school dedicated to St. Martin, Bishop and Confessor. On September 10, 1851, St. Martin's became a mission church of St. Anthony's, also at that time the new pastor, Father OberMueller, was also placed over St. James Catholic Church, Mequon, WI. Fr. OberMueller remained there until August 18, 1852. Father Bartoz then became priest and remained until July 30, 1854. He was succeeded by Father Weis. Fr. Weis was the founder of St. Catherine's, Granville, WI, he relinquished leadership of St. James but remained over St. Martin's. The corner stone for St. Catherine's Church was laid May 1859. St. Catherine's church was organized to serve the needs of immigrants from Luxembourg, Bavaria, and Rhineland who had settled in the area of the northern part of Milwaukee Co. and the southern part of Washington Co. Today the area is known as the Town of Granville, Milwaukee Co. and the Town of Mequon, Ozaukee Co. Before the founding of the parish the settlers had attended St. Martin's Church, Englesburg [West Granville] and St. Anthony's Menonomee [Fussville], but distance made it difficult for them to perform religious duties. Founding families of St. Catherine's Church, Granville were: George Batzler, Jacob Batzler, John Bausch, Nicholas Biever, Adam Deltgen, Peter Deltgen, John Diderrich, Jacob Ewen, Nicholas Froehlich, John Gengler, Nicholas Gengler, Paul Gengler, Elizabeth Gruenwald, Nicholas Guidinger, John Hinsaeuher, Ulrich Holzbuetel, John Jung, Peter Jung, John Karner, Peter Klehr, Peter Kohner, Anton Kueffner, Joseph Post, Nicholas Redlinger, Joseph Roskopf, Henry Schmit, Nicholas Schmit, John Schweitzer [Spelled Schwister on some census information], Peter Spartz, Nicholas Steinmetz, Nicholas Tohl, and Francis Uerlings. About half of those surnames appear at least 1-200 times in my database, I will do a look up on surnames if you provide full name and approximate date relating to the person. I also have a list of St. Catherine's priests 1853-1945 if you have an ancestor who was born, married or died as a member of St. Catherine's and you would like to know who the priest was at the time of your ancestors event. Cindy

Thanks so much for the offer. I am researching the DORFNER surname. Thanks again, Cheryl in CA

Cindy, I am related to a Detrich (?sp) line by way of a marriage of a Margaret LINGER/LENGER/LANGER. I am also related to a MICHEL(S), MICHAEL(S) line. George Michels (abt. 1809-1868) first purchased land in the Town of Belgium, which is about 8 miles north of Port Washington. He got the land through a land patent from the United States Bureau of Land Division. He and his wife Anna Maria (maiden name THELEN or THIELEN) later sold the land and purchased land in the Thiensville area. This was where EVA/AVAH was born September 09, 1847. George's daughter, Eva/Avah, married Dr. Christian LINGER. Dr. LINGER had a sister named Margaret ( who married a Dedarich/Detrich. She and her husband are baptismal sponsors for a child baptized at St. Anthony's in what was Fussville. Eva was born September 09, 1847 in Thiensville, Ozaukee Co., Wisconsin. Christian LINGER's father was Christian LENGER (January 10, 1810-February 25, 1896). Elizabeth Glesius/Klesius was the maiden name of Christian LENGER, Sr.'s wife October 28, 1814-February 07, 1891. I am searching for the death/marriage of Margaret LINGER/LENGER/LANGER--the daughter of Christian and Elizabeth--the sister of Christian LINGER, Jr. Below give the dates/land description... Copy of Deed to George Michels: Grantor: United States of America to Grantee: George Michels for $100.00 Dated July 15, 1846 Volume 6 page 133 The W 1/2 of the NE 1/4 of Section 7-12-22E--cont 80 + or hundredths acres at $1.25 per acre Receipt No 23,440 ============= Grantor: George Michels and Anna Marie his wife to Peter Becker on July 15,1846 The W 1/2 of the NE 1/4 of Section 7-12-22E cont 80 acres be the same more or less In my ggrandfather's funeral book there is a signature for : Mr. and Mrs. A. J. Gengler. Hope you or another researcher finds something familiar..I would love to see a plat map of the Belgium area around 1846..I've often wondered who their neighbors were. Thank you, Susan apetta@netwurx.net ===

Looking for any info. on this family , August H. STARK married Emma KRUEGAR, they had 2 children that I know of 1.) Carol Jean STARK 2.) Emma B. STARK married William A. HERMAN 9-4-1930 in Shawano, Wisconsin The marriage reocrd shows residence for her husband William HERMAN Milwaukee, Also on marriage record it shows Emma STARK birthplace as Ohio. Hope to hear from anyone with a connection, thanks Deanna

Hello, I am researching the Gengler line, as well as the Diderrich and Schmit lines. I am a direct descendent of Adam Gengler who immigrated here form Everlange, Luxembourg to the Granville/Brown Deer area in 1846. Which Gengler/Diderrich/Schmit doe you descend from? Cindy

Hi Mary, Could check for any Sault's or Christie's that may be in your books? Thank you so much,. Blessings, Debbie Christie-Rogers -----Original Message----- From: Mary E. Stigler [mailto:mestigler@cybrzn.com] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 8:16 AM To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WiMilwau] Will look up 1929 and 1930 high school year books. I have my father's high school year books (1929 and 1930) from St. John Cathedral High School, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I will search for any names that might be listed in these books. Mary from Wisconsin mestigler@cybrzn.com ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

I have my father's high school year books (1929 and 1930) from St. John Cathedral High School, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I will search for any names that might be listed in these books. Mary from Wisconsin mestigler@cybrzn.com

old Grand Avenue, Milwaukee-- originally known as Spring Street-- renamed Grand Avenue in the 1870s and West Wisconsin Avenue in 1927. To Bob of Brookfield, etc.-- I got intrigued by your Kneeland family questions-- and (fortunately or unfortunately) the following has evolved into another one of my long-winded memos. I typed up the following to e-mail you off-list-- but I've concluded it had enough general interest to send to WiMilwau list as a whole. Hopefully I'm GIVING something for a change, rather than just RECEIVING (the former is reportedly more blessed). Hopefully also my present memo doesn't arrive with any horrible diseases, such as anthrax, small pox, badtrans B, leprosy, melissa, bubonic plague, hybris, etc. Yesterday, thanks be to God, Housecall.antivirus.com (surprisingly) certified me to be AS CLEAN AS A WHISTLE. Many thanks again, Bob, for all your wonderful lookups at Milwaukee's Forest Home Cemetery. And hopefully someone will find a few helpful odds & ends below. I've now looked at what online evidence I could quickly find, and I feel fairly certain that Moses Kneeland (b. 2 Apr 1809? in CT) and James Kneeland (b. 12 Feb 1816 in NY), both buried at Forest Home, are HALF BROTHERS, both children of David Kneeland Jr. (b. 23 Aug 1772 in CT)-- but by different mothers (see below). The 1840 Census seems to show both James and Moses living in rural Genesee County in western NY state-- only about 15 miles apart. And the 1850 Census locates James in Milwaukee's 3rd Ward (where my ancestor Elisha Eldred was then living at the NE corner of Jackson and Michigan), while Moses was located west of the Milwaukee River-- in Milwaukee's 4th Ward (where Elisha moved in 1859). Also, Moses' full brother Joel seems to have then been living close to Moses in 1850, while their older full brother Sylvester Kneeland remained in upstate NY. My copies of Henry F. Walling's valuable 1858 Milwaukee County landownership map (I printed these out from Library of Congress microfiche several years ago) shows much of the 4th Ward land to the southwest of St. James Episcopal Church, SW corner of 9th & Spring (now W. Wisconsin Ave.), was then owned by James Kneeland. The present St. James Church (stone) was begun in 1867, but I've read that the older adjoining frame church continued to be used as a parish house until the 1920s. My recollection is that a 1870s map also shows a large open area labeled "Kneeland's Park" on this James Kneeland property. My 1858 map copies also shows that a six city block area bounded by modern State & Wisconsin on the north & south, and 14th & 16th on the east & west, was then owned by Elisha (now mostly Marquette University land), and Elisha built his big new house at the south end of this rugged and heavily forested property in 1858-1859-- about halfway between modern Wisconsin & Wells. This home (I have an old antebellum photo of it) was occupied by the Levi J. Kellogg family beginning in 1867 and unfortunately demolished about 1900. Maybe you'll recognize some of the other KNEELANDs listed below, especially in Ancestry.com's online 1860 WI census. ........John (in Chicago) =================================================== http://familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp [IGI parent searches:] KNEELAND Father: David Kneeland [Jr.], Mother: Statira Williams Exact Spelling: Off Film Number: 456238 Results: International Genealogical Index/North America (7 matches) 1. Statira Williams KNEELAND - F Birth: Jan 1799 Marlboro, Hartford, Connecticut 2. Julia KNEELAND - F Birth: 17 Nov 1800 Marlboro, Hartford, Connecticut 3. Sylvester W. KNEELAND - M Birth: 27 May 1803 Marlboro, Hartford, Connecticut 4. Joel KNEELAND - M Birth: 19 Jan 1805 Marlboro, Hartford, Connecticut 5. Olivia KNEELAND - F Birth: 3 Apr 1807 Marlboro, Hartford, Connecticut 6. Moses KNEELAND - M Birth: 2 Apr 1809 Marlboro, Hartford, Connecticut 7. Phila KNEELAND - F Birth: 27 Oct 1810 Marlboro, Hartford, Connecticut _______________________________________________ Father: David Kneeland [Jr.], Mother: Catherine Pierson Exact Spelling: Off Film Number: 1761064 Results: International Genealogical Index/North America (3 matches) 1. James KNEELAND - M Birth: 12 Feb 1816 Leroy, Genesee, New York 2. David Pierson KNEELAND - M Birth: 10 Nov 1818 Leroy, Genesee, New York 3. Caroline Catherine KNEELAND - F Birth: 24 Jun 1821 Leroy, Genesee, New York =================================================== http://familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp David KNEELAND [JR.] Birth: 23 Aug 1772 Marlboro, Hartford, Connecticut Father: David KNEELAND Mother: Mercy Pepoon KNEELAND IGI Film Number: 456238 ______________________________________ [first wife of David Kneeland Jr.] Statira WILLIAMS Sex: F Birth: 10 Apr 1777 Marlboro, Hartford, Connecticut Father: Lt. Thomas WILLIAMS IGI Film Number: 170687 ________________________ Statira WILLIAMS Spouse: David KNEELAND Jr. Marriage: Abt. 1798 Hartford Co., Connecticut IGI Film Number: 456238 ______________________________________ [second wife of David Kneeland Jr.] Catherine PIERSON (AFN: 1208-DZB) Birth: 1791 Duanesburg [NY?] Father: Joseph PIERSON (AFN: 1208-DDS) Mother: Sarah WATEROUS (AFN: 1208-D2Q) Marriage(s): Spouse: M HANNA (AFN: 1208-DG7) Spouse: D KNEELAND (AFN: 1208-DVP) Spouse: BATCHELDER (AFN: 1208-DX4) Catherine PIERSON (AFN: 1208-DZB) FamilySearch™ Ancestral File v4.19 ________________________ Catherine PIERSON Spouse: DAVID KNEELAND JR Marriage: Abt. 1815 Genesee Co., New York IGI Film Number: 1761064 ============================================= http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=nycen&gs=kneeland US CENSUS: 1820 KNEELAND DAVID Ontario County NY 196 Geneseo 1830 KNEELAND DAVID Livingston County NY 006 Geneseo 1840 KNEELAND JAMES Genesee County NY 625 Elba 1840 LIVELAND MOSES Genesee County NY 381 Le Roy 1850 KNEELAND JAMES Milwaukee County WI 344 Milwaukee Cty 3rd Ward 1850 KNEELAND JOEL Milwaukee County WI 365 Milwaukee Cty 4th Ward 1850 KNEELAND JOHN Milwaukee County WI 397 Milwaukee 5th Ward [related?] 1850 KNEELAND MOSES Milwaukee County WI 363 Milwaukee Cty 4th Ward 1860 KNEELAND BURR Milwaukee County WI 794 7 W. Milwaukee 1860 KNEELAND CORNELIA P. Milwaukee County WI 271 4 W. Milwaukee 1860 KNEELAND ELLEN Milwaukee County WI 793 7 W. Milwaukee 1860 KNEELAND EMOS C.~ Milwaukee County WI 856 7 W. Milwaukee 1860 KNEELAND FRANCES Milwaukee County WI 793 7 W. Milwaukee 1860 KNEELAND HANNAH Milwaukee County WI 856 7 W. Milwaukee 1860 KNEELAND MOSES Milwaukee County WI 793 7 W. Milwaukee ======================================================= [copy of info sent to another WiMilwau lister, August 2001] Milwaukee address system, 1865-1930---> addresses along numbered streets west of the Milwaukee River (according to 1868 Milwaukee directory) -- for example, Fifth Street: 17 Menomonee River 41 Fowler (now St. Paul Ave) 81 Clybourn (still Clybourn St) 121 Sycamore (now Michigan St) 161 Grand Ave. (now Wisconsin Ave) 201 Wells (still Wells St) 241 Cedar (now Kilbourn Ave) 281 State (Tamarack in 1850s) 321 Prairie (now Highland Ave) 361 Chestnut (now Juneau Ave) _________________________________ Some residents of the Grand Ave. (now W. Wisconsin Ave.) area in 1891 (mostly nonresidential in 2001): http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1890milwwi&gs=buck http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1890milwwi&gs=kneeland [etc.] 1891 Milwaukee Elite Directory: Mr. James S. Buck; Mrs. James S. Buck 113 Fourteenth St. Mr. P. Cudahy*; Mrs. P. Cudahy* 1305 Grand Ave. Mrs. William Cudahy* 211 Fourteenth St. Gen. H. C. Hobart; Mrs. H. C. Hobart; Miss Jennie Mower 1200 State St. Mr. B. J. Johnson***; Mrs. B. J. Johnson; Miss Carrie Johnson; Miss Belle Scott 112 Thirteenth St. Mrs. Helen Kellogg [widow Levi Kellogg**]; Mrs. George Godfrey 1416 Grand Ave. [1859 Elisha Eldred House] Mr. H. B. Kellogg; Mrs. H. B. Kellogg; Miss Lilly Kellogg 1416 Grand Ave. Dr. Byron Kilbourn; Misses Kilbourn North Lake, Wis. Miss Cornelia Kneeland; Mrs. Hans Crocker 223 Tenth St. Mr. James Kneeland; Mrs. Gregory Tenth and Grand Ave. Mr. S. D. Luscombe; Mrs. S. D. Luscombe 1504 Grand Ave. Mrs. Alexander Mitchell; Mr. Wm. Crosby; Mrs. Wm. Crosby Jacksonville, Florida Mr. John L. Mitchell; Mrs. John L. Mitchell 183 Ninth St. [Alex Mitchel hose, enlarged 1873] Mr. Geo. W. Mitchell; Mrs. Geo. W. Mitchell Plankinton House Mr. Wm. Mitchell 1103 Grand Ave. Mr. G. W. Ogden; Mrs. G. W. Ogden 138 Eighteenth St. Mr. Henry M. Ogden; Mrs. Henry M. Ogden 2228 State St. Mr. J. Oscar Ogden****; Mrs. J. Oscar Ogden; Miss Alberta; Miss Daisy; Miss Lettie Ogden 198 Eleventh St. Mr. John Plankinton; Mrs. John Plankinton; Miss Elizabeth Plankinton 1503 [also 1505] Grand Ave. [1858 James H. Rogers House, enlarged] Mr. William Plankinton; Mrs. William Plankinton 1527 Grand Ave. [Miss Lizzie Plankinton house, 1432 Grand Ave.-- vacant in 1891] Mr. C. C. Rogers; Mrs. C. C. Rogers 97 Eighteenth Mr. C. D. Rogers; Mrs. C. D. Rogers; Miss Alice; Miss Fannie 909 Grand Ave. Mr. George J. Rogers; Mrs. George J. Rogers; Dr. Fred. C. Rogers; Mr. J. H. Rogers 173 Twenty-First St. Mr. Henry G. Rogers; Mrs. Henry G. Rogers; Miss Laura Rogers 144 Eighth St. Mr. W. P. Rogers; Mrs. W. P. Rogers 1201 Grand Ave. Mr. Edward A. Wadhams***; Mrs. Edward A. Wadhams 187 Twenty-Fifth St Mr. Daniel J. Wells; Mr. Charles Norris; Mrs. Charles Norris 1906 Grand Ave. ___________________________________ other 1891 Milwaukee Elite listings, but somewhat outside the above area: Mr. Frederick Pabst; Mrs. Frederick Pabst; Miss Marie Pabst; Miss Emma Pabst; Mr. Gustave Pabst; Mr. Fred Pabst, Jr. 828 Chestnut St. Mr. Ernst G. Miller*; Mrs. Ernst G. Miller*; Mr. Frederick A. Miller* Cor. 36th and Cedar Sts. Mr. Alfred Uihlein 545 Fifth St. Mr. August Uihlein; Mrs. August Uihlein 332 Galena St. Mr. Jacob Best*****; Mrs. Jacob Best 254 Thirteenth St. ___________________________________ A few notes-- plus more questions for Bob (Bob probably wonders if JQM will EVER stop asking questions): * Likely Roman Catholics (many are very nice!). I believe at least one of these CUDAHYs is buried in Wauwatosa. Are all three above buried there too-- and at what cemetery?? Also, where are Fred and Ernst MILLER buried? Was Fred the founder of Miller Brewing?? Also, I suspect Holy Trinity (adjoining St. Adalberts) is now Milwaukee's oldest Catholic cemetery. Is that correct? ** In 1867 Levi KELLOGG (1817-1873?, bur. Forest Home) + his wife Helen and growing family (at 493 Milwaukee) and JQM's widowed ancestor Mrs. Elisha ELDRED (at 1416 Spring [Grand Ave.] traded houses. Are the Kelloggs related to Louise Phelps Kellogg, 1861-1942 [FH 12-5-15], who is honored in Forest Home's Halls of History? *** Burdette J. JOHNSON, founder of what became the Palmolive Co., which (along with Armour & Co, meat packers) had early ties to Wadhams-Magie Oil Co., founded 1883, and later Magie Bros. Oil Co. (now a Franklin Park, IL, division of Conoco)-- founded 1888 and originally located in a building erected in 1888 and still standing at 56 Fifth St. (now 422 N. Fifth St.), Milwaukee. Also in 1888, Edward A. Wadhams (1846-1916--buried FH 106-0-35) founded Wadhams Oil (later absorbed by Mobil Oil), which later built some of the distinctive Chinese pagoda service stations that still survive in the Milwaukee area. **** Joseph Oscar OGDEN was a first cousin of brothers G W & H M Ogden (listed above) and also a first cousin of JQM's great-grandfather Jonathan Magie (a Ward 7 resident in 1891) and also Malvina Belle Ogden (wife of P D Armour, meat packer). The P D Armour family moved from Milwaukee to Chicago in 1877, probably taking several hundred meat packing jobs with them. You sent me a biography of J. Oscar, who was briefly a Milwaukee dry goods partner of Jonathan Magie about 1849-1850-- but he otherwise seems to have had "little visible means of support," other than his wealthy Cincinnati father, James Kilborn Ogden (1793-1869). ***** the 1890 Milwaukee Directory lists Jacob BEST (father-in-law of Capt. Fred Pabst?) as Treasurer of the <<Wisconsin Anti-Prohibition Publishing Co.>> at 457 E. Water St.

To: apetta@netwurx.net from John (in Chicago)-- even though you didn't respond to my Dietrich info and query of 11/28/01, I thought I'd try a second response to your many recent postings. By process of elimination, my guess is that Elm Street may now be West Garfield Street-- parallel to and one street south of North Ave. Try this: http://maps.yahoo.com/py?addr=2442+garfield&csz=milwaukee+wi

Mary, Thank you--was wondering if anyone knew what the name of the street changed to?? Didn't it change before the 1920 census? and if so, what did Elm streeet become? Thank you again, Susan ==== Mary Popovich wrote: > The 1910 city directory states that Elm street extends west from 1915 Fond > du Lac Ave. Numbering the same as on North Avenue. > > Mary Popovich > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237