This might help you some. It is extracted from a list of counties in WI provided by the vital Statistics folks in Madison. Earlies Registration by County Milwaukee Births - 1835 Deaths - 1872 Marriages - 1851 That does not mean that all events beginning that date were recorded, though. I have a copy of a marriage in Milwaukee from a type of ledger book dating back to 1853 and, as I recall, there were numbers such as you show which tell in what ledger book and on what page you will find this event recorded. Bill in Denver

I've inherited a stack of notes from my mother's genealogy work from 25 years ago. She wasn't very organized, and I've come across a piece of paper with no heading that has a list of names, dates and a mystery number, like: Jahn Hulda Oct 18 1852 K 73 Jahn Wilhelm Jan 26 1867 K 74 Paul Feb 23 1870 K 286 Cora Jan 21 1880 13-52 Jahn Ernst Feb 20 1907 428-167 Jahn Gwendeline Nov 6 1907 443-148 So, my question is, what sort of collection in the Milwaukee area has index numbers (or page numbers or ...) like "443-148"? I suspect she was searching some sort of book or index and jotting down "Jahn" names that might've been related to us. Ernst, for example, doesn't match any known relations, so I suspect this is a list of possibilities, not relatives. What's most intriguing is the Gwendeline entry. That's the name and birth date of a child who had been given up for adoption a week after her birth. We had found a reference to her in a "lying-in" book at the library. The family oral history had never mentioned her. I don't think my mother recognized her as a relative - after all, a previously unknown child would've been big news. Considering that the child had only lived a week under that name, it makes me think my mother was looking at some sort of birth certificate index. The index numbers almost seem consecutive, like the birth dates. On the other hand, the living relatives of the adopted child have a birth certificate under the new name, so I would've thought the original certificate would've been expunged. Or was Milwaukee record-keeping not so secretive back then? - John

Hi Cindy, Would you know where I can find the records for St. Martin's Church that used to be in Granville? Vikki

I thought I would pass this along to everyone. Have a very Merry Christmas and a safe New Year! Genealogists Christmas "Twas the night before Christmas when all through the house Not a creature was stirring, not even my spouse. The dining room table with clutter was spread With pedigree charts and with letters which said... "Too bad about the data for which you wrote Sank in a storm on an ill fated boat." Stacks of old copies of wills and the such Were proof that my work had become much to much. Our children were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of sugarplums danced in their heads. And I at my table was ready to drop >From work on my album with photos to crop. Christmas was here, and of such was my lot That presents and goodies and toys I forgot. Had I not been so busy with grandparent's wills, I'd not have forgotten to shop for such thrills. While others had bought gifts that would bring Christmas cheer; I'd spent time researching those birthdates and years. While I was thus musing about my sad plight, A strange noise on the lawn gave me such a great fright. Away to the window I flew in a flash, Tore open the drapes and I yanked up the sash. When what to my wondering eyes should appear? But an overstuffed sleigh and eight small reindeer. Up to the housetop the reindeer they flew, With a sleigh full of toys, and old Santa Claus too. And then in a twinkle, I heard on the roof The prancing and pawing of thirty-two hoofs. The TV antenna was no match for their horns, And look at our roof with hoof-prints adorned. As I drew in my head, and bumped it on the sash, Down the cold chimney fell Santa - KER-RASH! "Dear" Santa had come from the roof in a wreck, And tracked soot on the carpet, (I could wring his short neck!) Spotting my face, good old Santa could see I had no Christmas spirit you'd have to agree. He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work And filled all the stockings, (I felt like a jerk). Here was Santa, who'd brought us such gladness and joy; When I'd been too busy for even one toy. He spied my research on the table all spread "A genealogist!" He cried! (My face was all red!) "Tonight I've met many like you", Santa grinned. As he pulled from his sack a large book he had penned. I gazed with amazement - the cover it read "Genealogy Lines for Which You Have Plead." "I know what it's like as a genealogy bug," He said as he gave me a a great Santa Hug. "While the elves make the sleighful of toys I now carry, I do some research in the North Pole Library! A special treat I am thus able to bring, To genealogy folks who can't find a thing. Now off you go to your bed for a rest, I'll clean up the house from this genealogy mess." As I climbed up the stairs full of gladness and glee, I looked back at Santa who'd brought much to me. While settling in bed, I heard Santa's clear whistle, To his team which then rose like the down of a thistle And I heard him exclaim as he flew out of sight, "Family History is Fun! Merry Christmas! Goodnight!" Happy Holidays - Deb ______________________________

I am trying to find out the marriage information on: Pearl Beck, b 1895, Margaret Beck., b 1897, Hazel Beck, b 1900 and Mildred Beck, b abt 1902. They were all living in South Milwaukee for the 1920 census. Any help would be appreciated. Merry Christmas. Art

Thank you John ( In Chicago) for some KLINE family data! Judy

____________________________________________________ << Subj: [WiMilwau] KLINE-DECKOW family of Milwaukee Date: 12/20/01 2:10:58 PM Central Standard Time From: Gypsydoodl@aol.com Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Hi: I'd like to do some "fill-in" work on my g. aunt's line, the KLINE family. James M. KLINE b: 1881 Michigan married Augusta DECKOW b: c.1881 Milwaukee on 26 April 1902 in Milwaukee and had the following children: James M. b: 1905 George b: 1907 Arvella b: 1910 Forest b: 26 Oct 1913 Crystal June Patrick b: 24 January 1912 Does anyone have information on this family? Thank you, Judy >> ____________________________________________________ Judy, etc.-- below is some info of mine on some of my KLINE relatives with ties to Milwaukee. This is an abridged printout from my family's database. A connection with your KLINEs seems unlikely-- but who knows for sure right now. ........John (in Chicago) ---------------------------- 1. William KLINE #2347 b. 10 21 1775, Amsterdam, Montgomery, NY (son of William KLINE Sr. and Maria O'Reagen), m. Angeltie TELLER #2348, b. 06 08 1787, Schenectady, Schenectady, NY (daughter of William TELLER and Helena Van EPPS), d. 01 20 1878. William died 10 23 1862. Angeltie was a descendant of William Teller, who was born in Holland in 1620, immigrated to Nieuw Amsterdam (Manhattan) in 1639, and died there in 1701. William Kline Sr. was born in Swabia, Germany, in 1731, settled in NY state in 1767, served as a Revolutionary War soldier, and died in Amsterdam, NY, in 1814. Children: 2. i Perry KLINE #9493 b. 01 09 1830, m. Annie M. YOUNG #9494, b. 10 21 1835, d. 05 15 1907. Perry died 01 18 1904. + 3. ii Susan Helen KLINE #212 b. 01 04 1833. Second Generation: 3. Susan Helen KLINE #212 b. 01 04 1833, New York, NY, NY, AFN:12KK-7PS, m. CIR 1843, in Schenectady, NY, Barent W. FELTHOUSEN #211, b. 03 15 1831, Schenectady, NY (son of James D. FELTHOUSEN and Nancy Heemstraat CLUTE), AFN:12KK-7NL, plumbing merchant, d. 10 23 1906, Milwaukee, Milwaukee, WI, bur. Forest Home Cem., Milwaukee, WI. Susan died 03 14 1895, bur. Forest Home Cem., Milwaukee, WI. Barent & Susan moved to Milwaukee ca. 1855. James' father Daniel Felthousen (also Veltheuysen) was born in Schenectady, NY, in 1778 and died there in 1860 Children: 4. i Angie Teller FELTHOUSEN b. 07 17 1858, Milwaukee, WI, m. 10 03 1883, St. Paul's Episcopal Church, Milwaukee, WI, Elisha Eldred MAGIE b. 11 04 1856, Milwaukee, WI (son of Jonathan Ogden MAGIE and Almira Jane ELDRED), oil exec., d. 09 05 1927, New York, NY, NY, bur. Forest Home Cem., Milwaukee, WI. Angie died 06 30 1936, Milwaukee, Milwaukee, WI, bur. Forest Home Cem., Milwaukee, WI.

Hi: I'd like to do some "fill-in" work on my g. aunt's line, the KLINE family. James M. KLINE b: 1881 Michigan married Augusta DECKOW b: c.1881 Milwaukee on 26 April 1902 in Milwaukee and had the following children: James M. b: 1905 George b: 1907 Arvella b: 1910 Forest b: 26 Oct 1913 Crystal June Patrick b: 24 January 1912 Does anyone have information on this family? Thank you, Judy

Need some help on finding a Thomas BALL, Jr. who was born in Maysville, KY in the 1880s. He was the son of Thomas and Mary Frances BALL of the same. Tom was listed in his father's obit in 1929 as living in Milwaukee. Therefore, I believe he may be listed in the 1920 or 1930 Wiscousin Census. ===== >From the Email Account of: Tim Ayers (615) 254-0767 Researching these surnames: Murphy, Wells, Johnson, Small, Jones, Stroder, Anderson, Basey and Ball (KY); Ayers (MD) "Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living. " __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Surname: Lowenbach I am new to this listserve but was wondering if anyone did obituary lookups. I am looking for an Erwin B. Lowenbach who died 1/23/1955 and his wife Winifred who died 12/24/ 1954. I hope this is the county. Their address at that time was 4455 North Oakland Ave. Any information on this couple would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for any information you are able to supply. Judy

To Susan, mostly-- I was pleased to find your 12/14/01 posting (below). I'm assuming this is a response to my 12/13/01 WiMilwau posting. Yet, if so, it appears to bear little relationship to the concerns that I expressed either in my 12/13/01 posting or in my previous off-list notes to you. I'd still especially appreciate your telling me if you intended to send me your unexplained and unsolicited 12/10/01 BAT attachment (below). And, if so, why? PLEASE respond to me either on-list or off-list. But once again I'm posting my present memo ON-LIST-- because you apparently haven't received my previous off-list queries. .......John PS: many thanks to Bob Fay (see below) for your very helpful input on the above. =================================================== << Subj: You are correct, I'm not receiving all [WiMilwau] Date: 12/14/01 2:09:24 AM Central Standard Time From: apetta@netwurx.net (Dr. Andrew Petta) Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Hi, You are correct, I am not receiving all of the answers to my queries. I try to be prompt in answering them. Hope this message is received. Susan >> =================================================== << Subj: Re: [WiMilwau] BAT? attachments from Apetta Date: 12/13/01 9:17:17 PM Central Standard Time From: madgrad77@clsurf.com (Robert W Fay) Reply-to: RWFay@clsurf.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com ....... The .bat file is a standard file extension, although I don't know if it is still used. There is info here http://www.ace.net.nz/tech/TechFileFormat.html Unfortunately some viruses also use .bat extensions and the Sircam virus used it last summer....... >> =================================================== << Subj: BAT? attachments from Apetta Date: 12/13/01 3:20:57 PM Central Standard Time From: JQMagie To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Apetta "directions" wanted, not drivers To Susan, etc.-- many listers are now of course more nervous than usual about possible Internet worms & viruses. And I'd really appreciate some input from you or OTHERS as to what your unexplained and unsolicited BAT attachment (below) is all about. It's probably totally benign, but I just don't know. You haven't yet responded to any of my private queries, even while you've continued to add postings to this WiMilwau list. So I'm now wondering whether you're not receiving some or all off-list e-mails sent to you. And I decided I'd send my present note as an on-list posting. ......... VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV << << Subj: seeking driving directions Date: 12/10/01 12:46:11 PM Central Standard Time From: JQMagie To: apetta@netwurx.net Hi Susan-- 1. I'm not totally clear how well I'm protected from Internet viruses-- and I have no idea why you sent me your BAT e-mail in Appendix 1 (below). Kindly explain, so that I have a better idea whether I should try to open this "BAT" attachment. 2. Please also indicate whether you were able to confirm that Milwaukee's pre-1930 Elm Street is now West Garfield Avenue, as I had theorized. And were you able to clearly view the Yahoo map I referred you too?....... 3. Also, did you ever get receive my DIETRICH e-mail of 11/28/01....... ________________________ Subj: Unable to find drivers Date: 12/10/01 9:55:04 AM Central Standard Time From: apetta@netwurx.net (Dr. Andrew Petta) File: hardware.bat (45568 bytes) DL Time (45333 bps): < 1 minute Often the computer looks, for example, in “D:\WIN98”, the path from which Windows was installed. Clicking on the Browse button allows you to find the file being searched for. By browsing to the root directory of the CD-ROM drive, the installation program will find the needed drivers....... >> >> VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV ===================================================

Hi, You are correct, I am not receiving all of the answers to my queries. I try to be prompt in answering them. Hope this message is received. Susan === JQMagie@aol.com wrote: > Apetta "directions" wanted, not drivers > > To Susan, etc.-- many listers are now of course more nervous than usual > about possible Internet worms & viruses. And I'd really appreciate some > input from you or OTHERS as to what your unexplained and unsolicited BAT > attachment (below) is all about. It's probably totally benign, but I just > don't know. > You haven't yet responded to any of my private queries, even while > you've continued to add postings to this WiMilwau list. So I'm now wondering > whether you're not receiving some or all off-list e-mails sent to you. And I > decided I'd send my present note as an on-list posting. .........John > __________________________________________________________ > VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV > > Subj: seeking driving directions > Date: 12/10/01 12:46:11 PM Central Standard Time > From: JQMagie > To: apetta@netwurx.net > > Hi Susan-- > 1. I'm not totally clear how well I'm protected from Internet viruses-- > and I have no idea why you sent me your BAT e-mail in Appendix 1 (below). > Kindly explain, so that I have a better idea whether I should try to open > this "BAT" attachment. > 2. Please also indicate whether you were able to confirm that > Milwaukee's pre-1930 Elm Street is now West Garfield Avenue, as I had > theorized. And were you able to clearly view the Yahoo map I referred you > too? (I recently designed this shortened Yahoo URL that I sent you.) See > Appendix 2 below. > 3. Also, did you ever get receive my DIETRICH e-mail of 11/28/01 and its > enclosed copy of the > 08/17/01 "[WiMilwau] DIETRICH Index" posting of Louise <Billnwese@aol.com>? > See Appendix 3 below. > > Incidentally-- at least as I received this from RootsWeb, the formatting > in your last big batch of Milwaukee County documents (presumably transcribed > by you) unfortunately made these postings very difficult to quickly > understand. ...........John > ____________________________________________________ > > [1] > > << Subj: Unable to find drivers > Date: 12/10/01 9:55:04 AM Central Standard Time > From: apetta@netwurx.net (Dr. Andrew Petta) > > File: hardware.bat (45568 bytes) > DL Time (45333 bps): < 1 minute > > Often the computer looks, for example, in “D:\WIN98”, the path from which > Windows was installed. Clicking on the Browse button allows you to find the > file being searched for. By browsing to the root directory of the CD-ROM > drive, the installation program will find the needed drivers. >> > ___________________________________________________ > > [2] > > << Subj: Re: 2442 Elm Street (apetta@netwurx.net) > Date: 12/3/01 7:40:14 AM Central Standard Time > From: apetta@netwurx.net (Dr. Andrew Petta) > To: JQMagie@aol.com .... > > Thank you for the map... > Susan > apetta@netwurx.net > > JQMagie@aol.com wrote: > > > To: apetta@netwurx.net from John (in Chicago)-- even though you didn't > > respond to my Dietrich info and query of 11/28/01, I thought I'd try a > second > > response to your many recent postings. By process of elimination, my guess > > is that Elm Street may now be West Garfield Street [**] -- parallel to and > one > > street south of North Ave. Try this: > > > > http://maps.yahoo.com/py?addr=2442+garfield&csz=milwaukee+wi >> > > [** actually probably an "Avenue"] > ___________________________________________________ > > [3] > > << Subj: DIETRICH > Date: 11/28/01 10:42:50 AM Central Standard Time > From: JQMagie > To: apetta@netwurx.net > > Susan-- I was trying to figure out who the "you" was in your posting below. > I came up empty. But I did find the following 17 Aug 2001 "DIETRICH Index" > posting in the WiMilwau list archives, which I thought might interest you. > Maybe you were referring to "you" in the plural sense of "y'all" -- meaning > everyone on the WiMilwau list? > ..........John > ________________________ > > Subj: [WiMilwau] DIETRICH, Lenger, Linger, Glesius, Michels, Marnetz > Date: 11/28/01 10:06:26 AM Central Standard Time > From: apetta@netwurx.net (Dr. Andrew Petta) > Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > > << DIETRICH, Lenger, Linger, Glesius, Michels, Marnetz > > Is there any chance that some of your ancestors settled in Southeastern > Wisconsin? ........ >> > ________________________ > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=WIMILWAU > > CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 110) > > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:50:41 EDT > From: <Billnwese@aol.com> > To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <e2.194397a7.28ae7b31@aol.com> > Subject: [WiMilwau] DIETRICH Index > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > << Hello Listers, > Before I went to the Milw. Courthouse, I rented the Milw. Birth Index and > prelooked up some numbers for surnames I was pursuing. I have the Index > numbers and DOB for DIETRICH (single spelling) from 1860 to 1892--if anyone's > interested. > Louise > Ft Lauderdale >> > ___________________________________________________ > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

----- Original Message ----- From: <JQMagie@aol.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:20 PM Subject: [WiMilwau] BAT? attachments from Apetta > Apetta "directions" wanted, not drivers > > To Susan, etc.-- many listers are now of course more nervous than usual > about possible Internet worms & viruses. And I'd really appreciate some > input from you or OTHERS as to what your unexplained and unsolicited BAT > attachment (below) is all about. It's probably totally benign, but I just > don't know. > You haven't yet responded to any of my private queries, even while > you've continued to add postings to this WiMilwau list. So I'm now wondering > whether you're not receiving some or all off-list e-mails sent to you. And I > decided I'd send my present note as an on-list posting. .........John > __________________________________________________________ > VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV > > Subj: seeking driving directions > Date: 12/10/01 12:46:11 PM Central Standard Time > From: JQMagie > To: apetta@netwurx.net > > Hi Susan-- > 1. I'm not totally clear how well I'm protected from Internet viruses-- > and I have no idea why you sent me your BAT e-mail in Appendix 1 (below). > Kindly explain, so that I have a better idea whether I should try to open > this "BAT" attachment. > 2. Please also indicate whether you were able to confirm that > Milwaukee's pre-1930 Elm Street is now West Garfield Avenue, as I had > theorized. And were you able to clearly view the Yahoo map I referred you > too? (I recently designed this shortened Yahoo URL that I sent you.) See > Appendix 2 below. > 3. Also, did you ever get receive my DIETRICH e-mail of 11/28/01 and its > enclosed copy of the > 08/17/01 "[WiMilwau] DIETRICH Index" posting of Louise <Billnwese@aol.com>? > See Appendix 3 below. > > Incidentally-- at least as I received this from RootsWeb, the formatting > in your last big batch of Milwaukee County documents (presumably transcribed > by you) unfortunately made these postings very difficult to quickly > understand. ...........John > ____________________________________________________ > > [1] > > << Subj: Unable to find drivers > Date: 12/10/01 9:55:04 AM Central Standard Time > From: apetta@netwurx.net (Dr. Andrew Petta) > > File: hardware.bat (45568 bytes) > DL Time (45333 bps): < 1 minute > > Often the computer looks, for example, in “D:\WIN98”, the path from which > Windows was installed. Clicking on the Browse button allows you to find the > file being searched for. By browsing to the root directory of the CD-ROM > drive, the installation program will find the needed drivers. >> > ___________________________________________________ > > [2] > > << Subj: Re: 2442 Elm Street (apetta@netwurx.net) > Date: 12/3/01 7:40:14 AM Central Standard Time > From: apetta@netwurx.net (Dr. Andrew Petta) > To: JQMagie@aol.com .... > > Thank you for the map... > Susan > apetta@netwurx.net > > JQMagie@aol.com wrote: > > > To: apetta@netwurx.net from John (in Chicago)-- even though you didn't > > respond to my Dietrich info and query of 11/28/01, I thought I'd try a > second > > response to your many recent postings. By process of elimination, my guess > > is that Elm Street may now be West Garfield Street [**] -- parallel to and > one > > street south of North Ave. Try this: > > > > http://maps.yahoo.com/py?addr=2442+garfield&csz=milwaukee+wi >> > > [** actually probably an "Avenue"] > ___________________________________________________ > > [3] > > << Subj: DIETRICH > Date: 11/28/01 10:42:50 AM Central Standard Time > From: JQMagie > To: apetta@netwurx.net > > Susan-- I was trying to figure out who the "you" was in your posting below. > I came up empty. But I did find the following 17 Aug 2001 "DIETRICH Index" > posting in the WiMilwau list archives, which I thought might interest you. > Maybe you were referring to "you" in the plural sense of "y'all" -- meaning > everyone on the WiMilwau list? > ..........John > ________________________ > > Subj: [WiMilwau] DIETRICH, Lenger, Linger, Glesius, Michels, Marnetz > Date: 11/28/01 10:06:26 AM Central Standard Time > From: apetta@netwurx.net (Dr. Andrew Petta) > Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > > << DIETRICH, Lenger, Linger, Glesius, Michels, Marnetz > > Is there any chance that some of your ancestors settled in Southeastern > Wisconsin? ........ >> > ________________________ > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=WIMILWAU > > CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 110) > > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:50:41 EDT > From: <Billnwese@aol.com> > To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <e2.194397a7.28ae7b31@aol.com> > Subject: [WiMilwau] DIETRICH Index > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > << Hello Listers, > Before I went to the Milw. Courthouse, I rented the Milw. Birth Index and > prelooked up some numbers for surnames I was pursuing. I have the Index > numbers and DOB for DIETRICH (single spelling) from 1860 to 1892--if anyone's > interested. > Louise > Ft Lauderdale >> > ___________________________________________________ > > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi John and all, On 13 Dec 2001, at 16:20 JQMagie@aol.com <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> wrote: And I'd really appreciate some > input from you or OTHERS as to what your unexplained and unsolicited BAT > attachment (below) is all about. Thats one good reason to keep conversations on list. List mail cannot transmit an attachment, and most of the email viruses that have been going around the last couple of years have been as an attachment. Off list mail can have any kind of attachment. The .bat file is a standard file extension, although I don't know if it is still used. There is info here http://www.ace.net.nz/tech/TechFileFormat.html Unfortunately some viruses also use .bat extensions and the Sircam virus used it last summer http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sircam.worm@mm.ht ml Your antivirus program, if updated and properly configured should easily handle any virus that old. But the easiest way, if it is a concern, is just to respond on list, rather than off list. Bob Fay

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Apetta "directions" wanted, not drivers To Susan, etc.-- many listers are now of course more nervous than usual about possible Internet worms & viruses. And I'd really appreciate some input from you or OTHERS as to what your unexplained and unsolicited BAT attachment (below) is all about. It's probably totally benign, but I just don't know. You haven't yet responded to any of my private queries, even while you've continued to add postings to this WiMilwau list. So I'm now wondering whether you're not receiving some or all off-list e-mails sent to you. And I decided I'd send my present note as an on-list posting. .........John __________________________________________________________ VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Subj: seeking driving directions Date: 12/10/01 12:46:11 PM Central Standard Time From: JQMagie To: apetta@netwurx.net Hi Susan-- 1. I'm not totally clear how well I'm protected from Internet viruses-- and I have no idea why you sent me your BAT e-mail in Appendix 1 (below). Kindly explain, so that I have a better idea whether I should try to open this "BAT" attachment. 2. Please also indicate whether you were able to confirm that Milwaukee's pre-1930 Elm Street is now West Garfield Avenue, as I had theorized. And were you able to clearly view the Yahoo map I referred you too? (I recently designed this shortened Yahoo URL that I sent you.) See Appendix 2 below. 3. Also, did you ever get receive my DIETRICH e-mail of 11/28/01 and its enclosed copy of the 08/17/01 "[WiMilwau] DIETRICH Index" posting of Louise <Billnwese@aol.com>? See Appendix 3 below. Incidentally-- at least as I received this from RootsWeb, the formatting in your last big batch of Milwaukee County documents (presumably transcribed by you) unfortunately made these postings very difficult to quickly understand. ...........John ____________________________________________________ [1] << Subj: Unable to find drivers Date: 12/10/01 9:55:04 AM Central Standard Time From: apetta@netwurx.net (Dr. Andrew Petta) File: hardware.bat (45568 bytes) DL Time (45333 bps): < 1 minute Often the computer looks, for example, in “D:\WIN98”, the path from which Windows was installed. Clicking on the Browse button allows you to find the file being searched for. By browsing to the root directory of the CD-ROM drive, the installation program will find the needed drivers. >> ___________________________________________________ [2] << Subj: Re: 2442 Elm Street (apetta@netwurx.net) Date: 12/3/01 7:40:14 AM Central Standard Time From: apetta@netwurx.net (Dr. Andrew Petta) To: JQMagie@aol.com .... Thank you for the map... Susan apetta@netwurx.net JQMagie@aol.com wrote: > To: apetta@netwurx.net from John (in Chicago)-- even though you didn't > respond to my Dietrich info and query of 11/28/01, I thought I'd try a second > response to your many recent postings. By process of elimination, my guess > is that Elm Street may now be West Garfield Street [**] -- parallel to and one > street south of North Ave. Try this: > > http://maps.yahoo.com/py?addr=2442+garfield&csz=milwaukee+wi >> [** actually probably an "Avenue"] ___________________________________________________ [3] << Subj: DIETRICH Date: 11/28/01 10:42:50 AM Central Standard Time From: JQMagie To: apetta@netwurx.net Susan-- I was trying to figure out who the "you" was in your posting below. I came up empty. But I did find the following 17 Aug 2001 "DIETRICH Index" posting in the WiMilwau list archives, which I thought might interest you. Maybe you were referring to "you" in the plural sense of "y'all" -- meaning everyone on the WiMilwau list? ..........John ________________________ Subj: [WiMilwau] DIETRICH, Lenger, Linger, Glesius, Michels, Marnetz Date: 11/28/01 10:06:26 AM Central Standard Time From: apetta@netwurx.net (Dr. Andrew Petta) Reply-to: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com << DIETRICH, Lenger, Linger, Glesius, Michels, Marnetz Is there any chance that some of your ancestors settled in Southeastern Wisconsin? ........ >> ________________________ http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=WIMILWAU CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 110) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:50:41 EDT From: <Billnwese@aol.com> To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <e2.194397a7.28ae7b31@aol.com> Subject: [WiMilwau] DIETRICH Index Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" << Hello Listers, Before I went to the Milw. Courthouse, I rented the Milw. Birth Index and prelooked up some numbers for surnames I was pursuing. I have the Index numbers and DOB for DIETRICH (single spelling) from 1860 to 1892--if anyone's interested. Louise Ft Lauderdale >> ___________________________________________________

HAPPY HOLIDAY NEWS FROM THE HOLY LAND _________________________________________________ NEW YORK TIMES December 10, 2001 << 'GONER' SUSPECTS UNDER HOUSE ARREST IN ISRAEL By REUTERS Filed at 12:19 p.m. ET JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Four Israeli teenagers were placed under house arrest on Monday after admitting they wrote and spread the "Goner'' worm that wreaked havoc on computers worldwide, police said. Tel Aviv's juvenile court accepted a police request to confine the 15- and 16-year-olds to their houses pending five days of investigation, said Meir Zohar, head of the Israeli police computer crimes squad. Under Israeli law, they would face up to 2-1/2 years in prison for a virus that deleted files and clogged e-mail inboxes around the world, causing millions of dollars in damage. "Goner,'' the latest of a series of costly computer viruses to have an international impact, appeared as an e-mail with the subject line "Hi'' and a screensaver attachment. Officials said North America, Australia and western Europe were hardest hit. The youths, from the same school in the northern city of Nahariya, had never been arrested before, Zohar said. One admitted to writing the worm, and the other three confessed to spreading it, with the author's encouragement, he said. The teens' lawyers were unavailable for immediate comment..... Early predictions put Goner in a league with last year's infamous "Love Bug,'' which experts say caused $8.75 billion of damage worldwide. But by late last week Goner was expected to inflict about $5 million in damages. Zohar said the suspects told investigators the worm was supposed to be an update of the fast-spreading 1999 ``Melissa'' e-mail virus, which caused about $1.2 billion in damage..... >> _________________________________________________

Just learned that my grandmother Jessie Bradley died On Nov 9, 1965, the funeral home was Warner Funeral Home in Crystal Lake, IL and her remains(?) are in Forest Home Cemetary, Milwaukee. Does anyone know how I can get more information? Janet

Cindy, Do you live in Wisconsin? Would love to talk..unfortunately, I am a nightshift nurse (10:30 pm-7:30 AM)..I am currently in Jefferson County, Wisconsin, but will be returning to Washington State shortly after Christmas.. Could you send me an attatchment of your lines?? They may match in more than 1 or 2 places--as soon as I return to Washington, I can send you an attatchment of my files--I'm on my dad's computer--here caring for him--smy computer is not "on-line"... If you send the attatchment, I can compare it with my data and let you know what other lines might connect and who they were... Susan apetta@netwurx.net ===== Chommert@aol.com wrote: > Hi Susan, > > Here are names you and I have in common so far: > > Viola Susan Gengler married Nicholas Thelen of Theimsville 1917, they had six > children, Nick was the son of Peter and Maria [Mueller]Thelen. > > I have Clenentina Langer who married Paul Schmit, April 1871 at St. > Catherine's Church, Granville, WI, Fr. August Durst officiating. > > Mr. and Mrs. A. J. Gengler would have been Adam and Maria [Kolbach] Gengler > who lived in Granville, WI. Adam was the son of Adam and Katherine [Kaber] > Gengler who immigrated in 1846 and I am directly descended from another son > of theirs, Johann Gengler. Their Catholic Parish was St. Catherine's of > Alexandria, Granville, WI. > > Here is a brief history of some rural Milwaukee Co. pioneer Catholic > Churches that may be of help to those researching Catholic families: > > Part of St. Catherine's early records were lost in a fire. I have recreated > some of the early records of marriages, births and deaths of my ancestors and > their children in that parish. In St. Catherine's Church history it states > that St. Anthony the Hermit Church was a small log church built in 1846 at > the direction of Father Maria Anton Meyer to serve the need of widely > scattered families. In August 1847 he left and Father Anton Urbanek > succeeded him. Fr. Urbanek stayed until Jan 1850 when he moved to a place > about three miles east called Engelsburg [West Granville], Milwaukee Co., WI, > where he built a new church and school dedicated to St. Martin, Bishop and > Confessor. On September 10, 1851, St. Martin's became a mission church of > St. Anthony's, also at that time the new pastor, Father OberMueller, was also > placed over St. James Catholic Church, Mequon, WI. Fr. OberMueller remained > there until August 18, 1852. Father Bartoz then became priest and remained > until July 30, 1854. He was succeeded by Father Weis. Fr. Weis was the > founder of St. Catherine's, Granville, WI, he relinquished leadership of St. > James but remained over St. Martin's. The corner stone for St. Catherine's > Church was laid May 1859. > > St. Catherine's church was organized to serve the needs of immigrants from > Luxembourg, Bavaria, and Rhineland who had settled in the area of the > northern part of Milwaukee Co. and the southern part of Washington Co. Today > the area is known as the Town of Granville, Milwaukee Co. and the Town of > Mequon, Ozaukee Co. Before the founding of the parish the settlers had > attended St. Martin's Church, Englesburg [West Granville] and St. Anthony's > Menonomee [Fussville], but distance made it difficult for them to perform > religious duties. > > Founding families of St. Catherine's Church, Granville were: > > George Batzler, Jacob Batzler, John Bausch, Nicholas Biever, Adam Deltgen, > Peter Deltgen, John Diderrich, Jacob Ewen, Nicholas Froehlich, John Gengler, > Nicholas Gengler, Paul Gengler, Elizabeth Gruenwald, Nicholas Guidinger, John > Hinsaeuher, Ulrich Holzbuetel, John Jung, Peter Jung, John Karner, Peter > Klehr, Peter Kohner, Anton Kueffner, Joseph Post, Nicholas Redlinger, Joseph > Roskopf, Henry Schmit, Nicholas Schmit, John Schweitzer [Spelled Schwister on > some census information], Peter Spartz, Nicholas Steinmetz, Nicholas Tohl, > and Francis Uerlings. > > About half of those surnames appear at least 1-200 times in my database, I > will do a look up on surnames if you provide full name and approximate date > relating to the person. I also have a list of St. Catherine's priests > 1853-1945 if you have an ancestor who was born, married or died as a member > of St. Catherine's and you would like to know who the priest was at the time > of your ancestors event. > > Cindy > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Anita et al.-- many thanks for the thanks. And I like your e-mail address <gohlpost@netw.com>, which seems especially suitable now that the football season is in full swing. Chicago's BEARS and Wisconsin's PACKERS face each other again today-- but I'd best state no personal preferences on the outcome of today's chapter in this ancient rivalry. I'm also quite certain that New York City and Madison, WI, were fully linked by railroads by 1856. And it may have almost as simple for a railroad passenger to travel between these two points in 1856 as it was a century later. What became the MILWAUKEE ROAD was completed from Milwaukee to Madison in 1854, and then Milwaukee and Chicago were finally linked on May 19, 1855, by a railroad line that was soon absorbed by the NORTHWESTERN RR. Also, it's seems likely that a more direct Chicago-Madison route had already been completed by 1856-- that is, the main line of the NorthWestern, which linked Chicago, Woodstock (IL), Janesville (WI), and Madison. It seems clear that the Midwest's impressive canal building activity of the 1830s and 1840s (in OH, IN and IL) was matched and then surpassed by the Midwest's amazing railroad construction activity in the 1850s. This activity was only partly matched in the southern states and pretty much forecast the outcome of the Civil War. ........John (in Chicago) ________________________________________________________ << Subj: Re: mid 19th century migration to WI Date: 12/9/01 12:41:15 AM Central Standard Time From: gohlpost@netw.com (Anita Gohl) To: JQMagie@aol.com Thank you for this wonderful article! After reading the first post about the subject migration to WI, I began to wonder how my ggrandfather traveled from NY City to Madison, WI. I really have no idea, but your tale is one way that it could have happened. He arrived in Madison in 1856 after "wandering around the country for a time." Thanks again, Anita Fish GOHL in northern Idaho >> ________________________________________________________