Hello. Over a year ago I was speaking with someone who was transcribing the records from the old Blessed Sacrament Church in Greenfield. She told me that she would be submitting them to the Milwaukee County Genealogical Society upon her completion. Does anyone know if this effort was ever completed & published? Thanks, Krista Researching Montag, Multhauf, Mirgeler, Mann, Bell, Lascheck, Beckman, Kurth

In a message dated 4/15/02 8:58:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, waukesha@linkstothepast.com writes: > Do you have the ability to scan the documents? > > If so, I may know of one or two people that can translate the documents for > you. > One is a cousin of mine in Michigan, the other a friend living in > California. > > Ellen- > www.linkstothepast.com Ellen, Would your sources be able to help with letters written in Old German? I have quite a few, written around 1860-1870, but I am told that they are in "old" or "low" German which, it would seem, is entirely different from today's German. I do have the letters scanned, but I don't have a web site to post them on (nor do I know about how to do create a website!), but I could email or snail mail them to anyone who might be able to help. If anyone has any good ideas for translating Old German, I would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks so much. Gini

Hi, My ggrandfather was born in Milwaukee in August, 1858. I've already looked in the pre-1907 Wisconsin birth record index and I don't find him there, so I think that I need to find the church he was christened in. Can anyone help? In the 1860 census, his parents are in the 9th Ward. They emigrated from Mecklenburg (Germany) in 1857 or 1858, so I'm guessing they were Lutheran (although they could have been Catholic.) How can I find the churches in the 9th Ward in 1860? Would there have been a particular church that Germans would have used? Is there a city directory for Milwaukee for that period so I could pinpoint their address? Any other suggestions? Anything online? Is there anywhere I could find a ward map? Thanks, Barbara Barbara Zanzig hertz@isomedia.com

Linda, Do you have the ability to scan the documents? If so, I may know of one or two people that can translate the documents for you. One is a cousin of mine in Michigan, the other a friend living in California. Ellen- www.linkstothepast.com *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/14/02 at 11:52 PM Linda L. Gardner wrote: >Hoping that those of you with more experience researching their >German ancestors will be able to advise me... > >I have just received copies of 2 letters written in the 1860's by >family members living in Wayne, Wisconsin. > >I would like to get them translated. > >What's the best approach? Should I be looking for someone familiar >with German communities of that time period in Wisconsin or the >Midwest? > >Any suggestions about how to locate a translator are most appreciated! > >Thanks, >Linda Gardner >Acton, Massachusetts > > >==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== >For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I believe that you can email this group and they will translate for you. I have found that the on-line translators are inaccurate at best and it is best to have someone who knows the language do the translation http://www.genealogienetz.de/misc/translation.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <GipCWoman@aol.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] Translating 1860's German letters > There are translating dictionary sites avail online.... > You can type in the lines and it will be translated for you... > I'm not sure of the exact sites,but I have used them a few times... > Good luck!!! > > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

go to keyword....dictionaries.....foreign language & resources. You should then be able to get a page where you can type in your lines to have them translated.. try..... www.systranbox.com/systran/box?id=AOL-en

There are translating dictionary sites avail online.... You can type in the lines and it will be translated for you... I'm not sure of the exact sites,but I have used them a few times... Good luck!!!

Linda, I just used this site last week and got a translation within 2 days, just be very careful to follow there specific instructions and the page can't be too long. . .(send each document separately probably) Try this website for free translation by people (not machine) http://www.genealogienetz.de/misc/translation.html If you need handwriting analysis, have you tried to post on any of the German Rootsweb message boards?? (GEN general or any of the regional boards probably) There are quite a few people who use those boards and have offered help. . .I've seen offers for looking a German handwriting as well. . .there is also the machine site that the other person referred to; if you still need that after all of the above, you can write back and I can hunt down the address for you. Hope that helps, Pam in CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda L. Gardner" <linda@fpr.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 8:52 PM Subject: [WiMilwau] Translating 1860's German letters > Hoping that those of you with more experience researching their > German ancestors will be able to advise me... > > I have just received copies of 2 letters written in the 1860's by > family members living in Wayne, Wisconsin. > > I would like to get them translated. > > What's the best approach? Should I be looking for someone familiar > with German communities of that time period in Wisconsin or the > Midwest? > > Any suggestions about how to locate a translator are most appreciated! > > Thanks, > Linda Gardner > Acton, Massachusetts > > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hoping that those of you with more experience researching their German ancestors will be able to advise me... I have just received copies of 2 letters written in the 1860's by family members living in Wayne, Wisconsin. I would like to get them translated. What's the best approach? Should I be looking for someone familiar with German communities of that time period in Wisconsin or the Midwest? Any suggestions about how to locate a translator are most appreciated! Thanks, Linda Gardner Acton, Massachusetts

A translator program will probably not be of any help, as the letters are no doubt handwritten and the German handwriting will be as problematic as the language. I would suggest that you find a native German speaker. While the handwriting will probably give them a few problems, they will be much more able to cope with it than someone who is not fluent. Mary Popovich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda L. Gardner" <linda@fpr.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 8:52 PM Subject: [WiMilwau] Translating 1860's German letters > Hoping that those of you with more experience researching their > German ancestors will be able to advise me... > > I have just received copies of 2 letters written in the 1860's by > family members living in Wayne, Wisconsin. > > I would like to get them translated. > > What's the best approach? Should I be looking for someone familiar > with German communities of that time period in Wisconsin or the > Midwest? > > Any suggestions about how to locate a translator are most appreciated! > > Thanks, > Linda Gardner > Acton, Massachusetts > > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Bob, thank you for the info on Wanderer's Rest. Does anyone know the date of the first interment there? Or what churches used this cemetery? Thank you in advance, Susan snokes2tscnet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gartzr@aol.com> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery > Wanderers Rest Cemetery is on the north side of Milwaukee on Burleigh St.. > It is now known as Lincoln Memorial Cemetery, the name changing after two > "crooks" bought the cemetery, ran it down, sold above-ground crypts which > were never built and then ran off with all of the monies and believe some of > the trust fund money also. A new owner is trying and doing a pretty good job > on bringing it back to a nice looking cemetery but it is going to take some > time to do it all. > > Pilgrims Rest Cemetery is on the south side of the City and is not and has > never been connected in anyway that I know of to Wanderers Rest/Lincoln > Memorial. > > Bob of Brookfield > > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is a google translated version of muc.de which is interesting. http://216.239.35.120/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://dmoz.org/World/Deutsch/ Regional/Europa/Deutschland/Baden-W%25FCrttemberg/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmu c.de%26hl%3Den Bill -----Original Message----- From: Mary Frank [mailto:mrfrank@des.uwm.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 4:05 PM To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WiMilwau] German Municipalities Just found this site, which may prove useful for those researching Milwaukee-area ancestors from Germany. It lists the names of German municipalities, plus the land/state/region and county they are in. The list seems pretty extensive. http://www.faerber.muc.de/dmoz/de-gemeinden/ There is also a geoserve site for Germany, but I can't find it in my bookmarks. If anyone knows that site, please post it to our group. Thanks! ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Ellen and all: Does anyone know if Pilgrim's rest and Wanderer's Rest Cemetery, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin are different Cemeteries? I also have ancestor's buried in Wanderers Rest... Perhaps I have gotten the names of these cemeteries mixed up?? Did Wanderer's Rest exist before Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery? Thank you in advance, Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph J & Maxine M. Capezza" <jcapezza@cafes.net> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 7:32 AM Subject: [WiMilwau] Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery > "Pilgrims's Rest Cemetery, situated on the Janesville plank road, about > half a mile outside the city limits, was established in August, 1880, by > St. Stephen's (Lutheran) congregation. It has an area of twenty-three and > a half acres and cost $6,000.

Thank you for the info on Pilgrim's rest Cemetery!! Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph J & Maxine M. Capezza" <jcapezza@cafes.net> To: <WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 7:32 AM Subject: [WiMilwau] Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery > "Pilgrims's Rest Cemetery, situated on the Janesville plank road, about > half a mile outside the city limits, was established in August, 1880, by > St. Stephen's (Lutheran) congregation. It has an area of twenty-three and > a half acres and cost $6,000. On the grounds have been built a small > chuch. They are managed by a committee appointed for the purpose by the > congregation, consisting of M. Meibohm, M. Thomas, J.G. Trentledge. From > August to January 1, 1881, the number of interments aggregate > sixty-three--the grounds were laid out in handsome style by Engineer > Benzenberg." > as written in The History of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 1881, Volume II. >

The link is broken. I emailed the webmaster and he told me to go to www.muc.de. The problem is it's all in German and I can't read or speak German. I realize that this is not the URL you show, but you can't get to the one you listed. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Mary Frank [mailto:mrfrank@des.uwm.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 4:05 PM To: WIMILWAU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WiMilwau] German Municipalities Just found this site, which may prove useful for those researching Milwaukee-area ancestors from Germany. It lists the names of German municipalities, plus the land/state/region and county they are in. The list seems pretty extensive. http://www.faerber.muc.de/dmoz/de-gemeinden/ There is also a geoserve site for Germany, but I can't find it in my bookmarks. If anyone knows that site, please post it to our group. Thanks! ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Susan, people from all religious backgrounds used Wanderers Rest years ago. A good share of them,though, were members of the northside Lutheran Churches. A member of the church that I served as Assistant at after I had to leave the full-time ministry of the church was a the man in charge of the sales at the cemetery. One of the nicest men I ever met. I don't think anyone was more hurt than he was when the two "crooks" came in and tore down all that he and others had built up. Too bad but he passed away a few years back. He feels sorry for all of the friends and people that he sold burial plots too that were let down for it truly is a beautiful, tree-filled cemetry, when taken care of. At one time after the "crooks" left, people could not even find graves for there was no money to even cut the grass or pick up fallen limbs that were on top of headstones and monuments. When the grass was higher than knees of the tallest men, the other cemeteries on the north side of Milwaukee got together to help out these owners. They sent their grounds crews over to Wanderer's Rest and did the limb removing and the grass cutting. To get back to your questions: I know many people from Lutheran Church purchased lots there as said but know that there are many from Methodist Churches, Presbyterian Churches and United Church of Christ members. I served three Lutheran Churches on the northside of Milwaukee (Lutheran Church of the Reformation, Pentecost Lutheran and Resurrection Lutheran) and had many members from all three that were either buried at the cemetery or were owners of lots there. Bob of Brookfield

Wanderers Rest Cemetery is on the north side of Milwaukee on Burleigh St.. It is now known as Lincoln Memorial Cemetery, the name changing after two "crooks" bought the cemetery, ran it down, sold above-ground crypts which were never built and then ran off with all of the monies and believe some of the trust fund money also. A new owner is trying and doing a pretty good job on bringing it back to a nice looking cemetery but it is going to take some time to do it all. Pilgrims Rest Cemetery is on the south side of the City and is not and has never been connected in anyway that I know of to Wanderers Rest/Lincoln Memorial. Bob of Brookfield

"Pilgrims's Rest Cemetery, situated on the Janesville plank road, about half a mile outside the city limits, was established in August, 1880, by St. Stephen's (Lutheran) congregation. It has an area of twenty-three and a half acres and cost $6,000. On the grounds have been built a small chuch. They are managed by a committee appointed for the purpose by the congregation, consisting of M. Meibohm, M. Thomas, J.G. Trentledge. From August to January 1, 1881, the number of interments aggregate sixty-three--the grounds were laid out in handsome style by Engineer Benzenberg." as written in The History of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 1881, Volume II. At 05:30 PM 4/13/2002 -0500, you wrote: >http://www.uwm.edu/Library/arch/findaids/micro70.htm > >SCOPE AND CONTENT: The Genealogical Society of Utah (GSU) and the >Wisconsin Historical Society have cooperated in a project to borrow and >film Wisconsin church and cemetery records of interest to genealogists. >The church records typically contain registers of baptisms, >confirmations, marriages, funerals, church membership, and occasionally >church constitutions, histories, and minutes. Cemetery records list >burials and lot owners. A wide range of Christian denominations are >included. The records are indexed by church or cemetery name, location, >and denomination. > >The Golda Meir Library staff will research and copy thing for you, for >a charge, of course. Here's the order form: >http://www.uwm.edu/Library/arch/serchrch.htm > >Here's information for Susan about the films in MILWAUKEE MICRO >COLLECTION 70 that pertain to Pilgrim's Rest. > >Name/Place/Denomination/Date/Types of Records/Language/Reel/Item No. > >Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery Milwaukee --- 1886-1978 Internment A-H >English 13 1 >Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery Milwaukee --- 1886-1978 Internment I-Ri >English 63 1 >Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery Milwaukee --- 1881-1947 Single Grave >Internment Kre-Sta English 16 1 >Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery Milwaukee --- 1882-1944 Single Grave >Internment Sta-Z English 17 1 >Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery Milwaukee --- 1882-1944 Single Grave >Internment Bor-Kre English 15 1 >Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery Milwaukee --- 1898-1978 Internment Ro-Z, >Single Grave Internment A-Bor English 14 1 > > > >>> snokes@tscnet.com 04/13/02 01:39PM >>> >I think there are burials from before 1880 in Pilgrim's Rest, but I >could be >wrong...Does anyone know the date that -that particular cemetery was >opened/started? > >Thank you, >Susan >snokes@tscnet.com >----- Original Message ----- >Subject: Re: [WiMilwau] FREIBERG obituary location for 1893 > > > > Susan (and other's interested) > > > > I doubt there are any plans for any cemeteries to put their >information >online. > > That is typically quite an undertaking. > > > > It is rare that the Milwaukee Archdiocese has an online database. > > It is my experience from my work with other counties/states, that >many >churches tend to keep their information to themselves. I am pretty >happy to >see that Milwaukee has this database available. > > > > I was poking around this morning in the LDS Library Search. > > There is 6 microfilm Reels available through the Family History >Center for >Pilgrim's Rest Cemetery in Milwaukee. The records are 1880-1979. > > > > Do you have a family history center available to you? > > > > Ellen- > > > > >==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== >For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please >see >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== >For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Pray for Peace, Maxine Capezza

Allene, Here are a couple links for you. This is the Milw. Historical Society http://www.milwaukeecountyhistsoc.org/ If all else fails you can go to my website. www.linkstothepast.com/milwaukee (which has a Milw resource section) or you can go to the Milwaukee Gen Web site www.rootsweb.com/~wimilwau Debbe may have some other links there that you may be missing. Hope that helps you catch up on your missing links. Ellen- Milwaukee Ancestor Collector www.linkstothepast.com/milwaukee *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/14/02 at 8:40 AM Robert & Allene Hintz wrote: >Hi, > Does anyone have their website or email address? Lost it when my >old computer died and couldn't retrieve anything. I'd appreciate the >help. >Thank you, >Allene Trowbridge Hintz > > > >==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== >For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi, Does anyone have their website or email address? Lost it when my old computer died and couldn't retrieve anything. I'd appreciate the help. Thank you, Allene Trowbridge Hintz