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    1. Third Postmaster Elisha Starr 1849-1851
    2. Mary R. Frank
    3. REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION. Originally published in “First Class Notes, A Publication of the Milwaukee Postal Customer Council” by Ralph Hass, Fresh Concepts, LLC, MPCC Industry Co-Chair Title: <><>Third Postmaster Elisha Starr 1849-1851, <>Oldest Living Milwaukee Citizen at the Time of His Death Third in a series of articles relating to the History of Milwaukee Postmasters <>Elisha Starr, the third postmaster of Milwaukee, was born on July 14, 1806 and came to Milwaukee from Cazenovia, New York on April 20, 1836. He was a pioneer editor, publisher, Postmaster, and Sergeant at Arms of the Assembly. <> In 1860, he owned and operated Starr & Son Job Printers at 214 East Water Street and lived at 292 Milwaukee Street. He first served his apprenticeship as a printer in The Ontario Repository. In 1826, he purchased the Le Roy Gazette and took a prominent part in the Anti-Masonic agitation that followed the abduction of William Morgan, a Freemason who had prepared for publication a book revealing the secrets of the Order of the Masons. After the agitation subsided, he came west, settled in Michigan, and subsequently moved to Milwaukee in 1836. At that time, Milwaukee extended from only the lake to the river. The west side was known as Kilbourntown, where Byron Kilbourn and other west siders had established a paper. Solomon Juneau aided by Mr. Starr, then began the publication of a paper, The Sentinel, on the east side. Mr. Starr severed his connection with The Sentinel and established a tri-weekly publication, which he called The Commercial Herald. Under President Taylor’s administration, Elisha Starr was appointed Postmaster, a position he held for four years. Mr. Starr attended, and often described the Erie Canal celebration at which De Witt Clinton, mayor of New York, was present. In the old days, Mr. Starr was a staunch Whig, and he became a Republican when the party was organized. Milwaukee and Kilbourntown were consolidated shortly after, and Mr. Starr was chosen the first president of the village board. During Governor Farwell’s administration, he was appointed Sergeant at Arms of the assembly. He was also appointed State Agent of the World’s Fair at New Orleans, by Governor Ludington. Governor James Ludington, who was partially paralyzed after suffering a stroke, was under the constant and devoted care of Colonel Starr. It was through Colonel Starr’s foresight and efforts that Mr. Ludington’s life was saved during the Newhall house fires. Colonel Starr had anticipated the possibility of fire, and had provided the necessary means of escape, among other things a particular chair in which the patient could be rolled out. Additionally, Colonel Starr kept all Mr. Ludington’s personal belongings, except those that were in daily use, locked up in a trunk, which could be strapped up and secured in a few seconds. When the first alarm of fire was given, Mr. Ludington was strapped in his chair, and ten minutes later, he and his trunk were safely outside. After the fire, they then lived at the Plankinton House in a suite of apartments on the second floor in the west wing, which Mr. Ludington never left. Over the course of the next eight years, they developed a daily routine which involved lifting Mr. Ludington from his bed to his wheelchair and back again three times a day. Colonel Starr always had to do the lifting, as he could not bear to have any one else do it. Colonel Starr estimated he had lifted Mr. Ludington 9,000 times. Colonel Starr resided for the remainder of his life at the Plankinton House. He died at age 87 on March 14, 1893 at 12:15 am from pneumonia. He was one of the first fifty five original subscribers to St. Paul’s Church for the purchase of Forest Home Cemetery, and was the oldest living Milwaukee citizen at the time of his death. He is buried at Lot 9, Block 20, Section 19 at Forest Home Cemetery. Mr. Starr’s wife was a Miss Edgerton. She was the sister of Benjamin B. Edgerton, who died many years before Elisha. In the prime of his life, Mr. Starr accumulated enough property to place him in comfortable circumstances. He met with business misfortune and lost the greater part of his possessions, so that he died a comparatively poor man. (Article submitted [to "1st Class Notes"] by Ralph J. Hass with special thanks to Jennifer Lynch, Researcher, Postal History) <>

    12/14/2004 02:54:06
    1. Sanitarium/death cert
    2. Hi, I just found a death date and death notice for a distant cousin, who supposedly died in a sanitarium in Milwaukee in 1937. I checked the Milwaukee rootsweb board and found names of 2 sanitariums there, which were located on the County Grounds. They were Muirdale and Bluemound. They may have been in existence in 1937. I will eventually look for a death cert. I do not live in Wisconsin. I did a search and it looks like the county courthouse or the state vitals office in Madison are my choices. In some states, you can get death certs from that time period at the state archives and sometimes it's much cheaper than going through the county or the state vitals or public health dept. I wanted to ask before I spend money. There may also have been an obit or death notice in a Milwaukee newspaper. We sometimes travel to Wisconsin so I can probably read microfilm on one of our visits. The man was not buried in Wisconsin, so no cemetery information is needed. As far as probate, I don't know. I have not looked into that yet. He actually lived in Chicago and probably had not been in Milwaukee for long. I've been researching him in Chicago and then lost him, so now I know why. Debbie

    12/11/2004 11:05:51
    1. Re: [WiMilwau] Milwaukee Bridge and Iron Works
    2. Tom & Karen Duffy
    3. My grandpa retired from Wisconsin Bridge and Iron in 1976. Dad says it was located about 32nd near Villard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "LauraBender" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 11:32 AM Subject: [WiMilwau] Milwaukee Bridge and Iron Works > Hello, > > Does anyone have any knowledge of the Milwaukee Bridge and Iron Works > company in Milwaukee? Are there any pictures around? > > Several relatives – Henry, Karl, Rudolph Tacke > worked there. > > Laura > [email protected] > > > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

    12/11/2004 05:04:51
    1. Milwaukee Bridge and Iron Works
    2. LauraBender
    3. Hello, Does anyone have any knowledge of the Milwaukee Bridge and Iron Works company in Milwaukee? Are there any pictures around? Several relatives – Henry, Karl, Rudolph Tacke worked there. Laura [email protected]

    12/11/2004 04:32:16
    1. Re: [WiMilwau] Milwaukee Bridge and Iron Works
    2. Rose
    3. Company info: http://www.uwm.edu/Libraries/arch/FndIndst/Ser%20356_%20Milwaukee_1.html http://www.structurae.net/firms/data/index.cfm?id=f000923 Page 11 of this PDF http://www.coloradohistory-oahp.org/publications/pubs/632.pdf Journal Sentinal article http://www.jsonline.com/dd/destnat/aug02/67788.asp Some of their historical bridges: http://www.philadelphiabuildings.org/pab/app/pj_display.cfm/700788 http://www.structurae.net/structures/data/index.cfm?ID=s0001406 http://www.douglascoulter.com/BridgeSigns/milwaukee_bridge.html Tom & Karen Duffy <[email protected]> wrote:My grandpa retired from Wisconsin Bridge and Iron in 1976. Dad says it was located about 32nd near Villard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "LauraBender" To: Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 11:32 AM Subject: [WiMilwau] Milwaukee Bridge and Iron Works > Hello, > > Does anyone have any knowledge of the Milwaukee Bridge and Iron Works > company in Milwaukee? Are there any pictures around? > > Several relatives � Henry, Karl, Rudolph Tacke > worked there. > > Laura > [email protected] > > > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more.

    12/11/2004 04:09:42
    1. Dearsley Brothers
    2. Tom & Karen Duffy
    3. Seeking information about the Dearsley Brothers company on Summit Ave. Great Great Grandpa Martin Wolniakowski had a work permit from this company--also, on the back it established "his boundaries" of where he could travel? Does anyone know of this company or the situation of a work permit that restricted movement? Karen Duffy

    12/10/2004 04:53:40
    1. Milwaukee marriages 1822-1876.
    2. JD
    3. The following web address will take you to a web site of the Milwaukee County Genealogical Society listing of marriages in and around Milwaukee County between 1822 and 1876. Most of these records have not been located in the Milwaukee County Courthouse and most are not recorded in the State of Wisconsin Pre-1907 Marriage Records. Here is the web address: http://www.milwaukeegenealogy.org/marriage_index.html A Brief History of the Marriage Indexing Project In 1966 the Genealogical Society of Utah (which is the non-profit genealogical agency of the LDS church) filmed a group of Marriage Certificates, Licenses, and permission documentation in Milwaukee. Most of these documents had been created in Milwaukee, but some of them came with immigrants from other locations. Many of the early records were for Waukesha and Washington Counties. These documents were found in a storage box and had been created in the years between 1822 and 1876. They were filmed in no particular order, and were not always in very good condition. The Milwaukee Public library has had copies of these microfilms since 1966 - but without an index it was like looking for a needle in a haystack. In 1999 letters were exchanged between the LDS group in Utah and the MCGS in Milwaukee so the marriage indexing project began. Copies of the films which had been numbered to enable the indexing process along with paper copies arrived in summer of 2000. There were 14 reels of microfilm that were processed into 19,960 legal size sheets of paper (with sometimes up to twelves records on a sheet). Roger Cobb with Lois Molitor acted as project coordinators. Many, many volunteers put in uncounted hours working to get the copies out and read. They were checked and double-checked and then rechecked numerous times. The usual - but unanticipated problems occurred - with different numbering and imaging techniques. Repeatedly, with each new attempt, Roger went through the records to make sure that all the components of the index codes matched with the records. These records with their numbering systems were then also created in CD form. This allows facilities that do not either have microfilm or computer resources to use whichever form is best for them. The index itself was included on a CD as well as in paper form.

    12/07/2004 06:40:52
    1. Re: [WiMilwau] Home of Good Shepherd
    2. District 387 HOUSE OF GOOD SHEPHERD In the 1930 Census, there is a listing for the House of Good Shepherd. Dist. 387. It lists names of nuns and inmates. -------------- Original message -------------- > Hello, > Does anyone know anything about the House of Good Shepherd? I had an aunt > there--can I get any information about that? > > Karen Duffy

    12/06/2004 12:22:08
    1. Re: [WiMilwau] Home of Good Shepherd
    2. Ancestry.com - Search the 1920 Census - Wisconsin - Milwaukee ... ... District 319, Wauwatosa city, wards 3 including Milwaukee County Sanitarium ... District 320, Wauwatosa town (part of) including House of Good Shepherd and Home ... The 1920 Census lists Milwaukee Sanitarium with names of employees and patients. There's a HOUSE OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD listed in the 1935 Milw. City Directory at 8730 W. Bluemound Rd. -------------- Original message -------------- > Hello, > Does anyone know anything about the House of Good Shepherd? I had an aunt > there--can I get any information about that? > > Karen Duffy > > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at > the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&target > id=5429 >

    12/06/2004 12:08:23
    1. Home of Good Shepherd
    2. Tom & Karen Duffy
    3. Hello, Does anyone know anything about the House of Good Shepherd? I had an aunt there--can I get any information about that? Karen Duffy

    12/05/2004 09:49:41
    1. NEHGS
    2. Rosemarie in WI.
    3. The Rusk County WI. Genealogical Society is doing a trip to The New England Historic Genealogical Society & Boston area; April 18th-29th. Here's the website url http://www.geocities.com/sneezykatinwi2004/HeartsDesireTours.html

    12/05/2004 12:19:54
    1. Re: [WiMilwau] Moore - Sharlein surnames
    2. Peterson, Jim and Karen
    3. Hi Sandra According to the 1930 census: Database: 1930 United States Federal Census December 4, 2004 6:41 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Home in 1930 (City,County,State) Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Race Relation to head-of-house Fredrick Sharlein Milwaukee, Milwaukee, WI abt 1889 Germany White Head Mary Sharlein Milwaukee, Milwaukee, WI abt 1894 Wife Oakley Sharlein Milwaukee, Milwaukee, WI abt 1911 Son Clayton Sharlein Milwaukee, Milwaukee, WI abt 1912 Son David Sharlein Milwaukee, Milwaukee, WI abt 1917 Son Roberts Sharlein Milwaukee, Milwaukee, WI abt 1920 Officer Richard Sharlein Milwaukee, Milwaukee, WI abt 1927 Son Fred Sharlein Milwaukee, Milwaukee, WI abt 1928 Son Per the SSDI Name: F. J. Sharlein SSN: 395-20-5134 Born: 24 Dec 1927 Died: 15 May 1988 State (Year) SSN issued: Wisconsin (Before 1951 Name: Fred Sharlein SSN: 387-01-9292 Last Residence: 53204 Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States of America Born: 28 Apr 1889 Died: Apr 1967 State (Year) SSN issued: Wisconsin (Before 1951 ) Name: Richard Sharlein SSN: 396-20-3621 Born: 28 Aug 1926 Last Benefit: 53204 Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States of America Died: May 1981 State (Year) SSN issued: Wisconsin (Before 1951 Name: Robert J. Sharlein SSN: 398-02-2422 Born: 17 Jul 1983 Died: 4 Apr 1999 State (Year) SSN issued: Wisconsin (1988 ) From the CA Death index Name: SHARLEIN, FRED Social Security #: 387019292 Sex: MALE Birth Date: 28 Apr 1889 Birthplace: GERMANY Death Date: 27 Apr 1967 Death Place: LOS ANGELES Mother's Maiden Name: Father's Surname: At Wood National cemetery online: http://www.interment.net/data/us/wi/milwaukee/woodnat/wood_seish.htm Sharlein, Fred J, b. 12/24/1927, d. 05/06/1988, PFC US ARMY, Plot: H 338, bur. 05/09/1988, * if you go to www.411.com and type in Sharlein in the search box with state WI you will get a few hits that might be related since the name isn't that common. I can't find Horace in Milwaukee at any time using the ceneus at acnestry.com. Any other spellings such as More, etc,etc no such luck with Fred and Mary in 1920 I found a few Sharleins at www.cemeteries.org (the milwuakee archdiocese) Name: Fred Sharlein Date of Death: 4/27/1967 Date of Burial: 5/1/1967 Age at Death: 77 Marital Status: Widowed Last Address: 1209 A South 17Th St., Funeral Home: Weiand Cemetery: Holy Cross Cemetery Location: Block: 20 Lot: 539 Grave: 2 Name: Marilyn Sharlein Date of Death: 11/6/2002 Date of Burial: 11/9/2002 Age at Death: 70 Marital Status: Single Last Address: 5942c S 27Th St, Milwaukee Funeral Home: Church & Chapel Cemetery: Holy Cross Cemetery Location: Block: 1 Section: O Lot: 14 Grave: 2 Name: Mary Sharlein Date of Death: 3/11/1945 Date of Burial: 3/15/1945 Age at Death: 50 Marital Status: Married Last Address: 1207 South 17Th St., Funeral Home: Niemann Cemetery: Holy Cross Cemetery Location: Block: 20 Lot: 539 Grave: 1 Name: Richard J. Sharlein Date of Death: 5/19/1981 Date of Burial: 5/22/1981 Age at Death: 54 Marital Status: Married Last Address: 1538 West Washington St., Funeral Home: Borgwardt Cemetery: Mount Olivet Cemetery Location: Block: 10-b Lot: 338 Name: Theresa Marie Sharlein Date of Death: 7/25/1999 Date of Burial: 7/29/1999 Age at Death: 72 Marital Status: Widowed Last Address: 5340 W. Greenfield, West Milw. Wis Funeral Home: Borgwardt Cemetery: Mount Olivet Cemetery Location: Block: 10b Lot: 338 checking the milwaukee journal online for Sharlein: Sharlein, Theresa M. Publication Date: July 27, 1999 (Nee LaComb) Sun., July 25, 1999, age 72 years. Preceded in death by her husband Richard. Dear mother of Barbara (Joseph) Spolowicz, Mary Sharlein, Kenneth Sharlein and Bruce (Susan) Sharlein. Fond grandmother of Paul, Tammy Wyszynski, Richard Sharlein, Great-grandmother of Matthew, Kayla, Zachary and Marcus. Also survived by 3 sisters, Cecilia LaComb, Rosemarie Jasiki, Lorraine (Ted) Adamczyk; 1 brother, Richard LaComb; other relatives and friends. Services from the Funeral Home on Thurs., July 29, 9:30 AM to St. Florian Catholic Church, 1233 S. 45th St. for Mass of Christian Burial at 10 AM. Interment Mt. Olivet Cemetery. Visitation at the Funeral Home on Wed. from 4-8 PM Vigil at 7 PM. BORGWARDT FUNERAL HOME 1817 W. National Ave. Milwaukee 645-8830 Hope this helps! You may want to start backwards with Marys obit and death certificate. I may have more names for your search! Karen Sandra Thoney wrote: > Hello List, > I am new here to the list, > I am trying to find some ancestors, > The names would be Horace Moore born in late 1800's (sorry I do not know more than this) But he had at least these 2 grandsons or great grandsons named Clayton and David Sharlein both born about 1912-1913 and 1916-1917, and possible lived in Miwaukee. > > any help would be appritiated > Thankyou, > Sandy > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

    12/04/2004 12:19:06
    1. Re: [WiMilwau] LUENING Family Photograph
    2. Rose
    3. Shelly, you may want to post a digital copy on www.ancientfaces.com or see if there are others there already. Shelley Cardiel <[email protected]> wrote: I've "rescued" an old photograph of D.C. LUENING which was taken at the Schroeder's Studio. I believe that studio was in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, however, I don't know that for sure because it isn't printed in the photograph. The photograph is dated March 2nd 1881 and I would guess that Mr. LUENING was probably in his 40's at the time it was taken. I'm hoping to locate someone from this LUENING Family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to its rightful place with family. If you are a member of this family or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less.

    12/04/2004 08:54:51
    1. Moore - Sharlein surnames
    2. Sandra Thoney
    3. Hello List, I am new here to the list, I am trying to find some ancestors, The names would be Horace Moore born in late 1800's (sorry I do not know more than this) But he had at least these 2 grandsons or great grandsons named Clayton and David Sharlein both born about 1912-1913 and 1916-1917, and possible lived in Miwaukee. any help would be appritiated Thankyou, Sandy

    12/04/2004 04:59:39
    1. LUENING Family Photograph
    2. Shelley Cardiel
    3. I've "rescued" an old photograph of D.C. LUENING which was taken at the Schroeder's Studio. I believe that studio was in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, however, I don't know that for sure because it isn't printed in the photograph. The photograph is dated March 2nd 1881 and I would guess that Mr. LUENING was probably in his 40's at the time it was taken. I'm hoping to locate someone from this LUENING Family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to its rightful place with family. If you are a member of this family or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

    12/04/2004 02:53:01
    1. free access to its New England database
    2. Rose
    3. NEHGS is pleased to offer free access to its New England Historical and Genealogical Register database on NewEnglandAncestors.org over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend! Normally only available to NEHGS members, the Register database will be accessible to everyone from Thursday, November 25 through Sunday, November 28, 2004. We encourage all NEHGS members to spread the word about this offering, and we hope that those of you who are not members find a veritable feast of ancestors in the Register database! Published quarterly since 1847, The New England Historical and Genealogical Register is the flagship journal of American genealogy and the oldest journal in the field. The online database includes issues from 1847 to 1994. The Register has featured articles on a wide variety of topics since its inception, including vital records, church records, tax records, land and probate records, cemetery transcriptions, obituaries, and historical essays. Authoritative compiled genealogies have been the centerpiece of the Register for more than 150 years. Thousands of New England families have been treated in the pages of the journal and many more are referenced in incidental ways throughout. The articles in the Register range from short pieces correcting errors in print or solving unusual problems to larger treatments that reveal family origins or present multiple generations of a family. Look for details on how to obtain free access to the Register in a special eNews bulletin to be sent out Wednesday, November 24. A link will also be available on that date on the home page of our website, www.NewEnglandAncestors.org. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Discover all that�s new in My Yahoo!

    11/22/2004 10:15:17
    1. Re: [WiMilwau] 1850 Milwaukee, Thomas Curtin
    2. Pamela Wagoner
    3. Thanks for your reply. I did find a Thomas Curtin in the 1850 census 3-WD Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Roll 1003, pg. 317, age 35 with a wife named Ann, and daughters, Margaret and "L", both daughters were born in New York. I believe that Ann and Thomas married about 1850 as they have a child together in Milwaukee about 1851-1852 , another Thomas, (per 1856 Iowa state and 1860 Iowa federal census). They move to Iowa before 1854. According to the Curtin Clan genealogist, another researcher has done the Jeremiah Curtin family and this is the Thomas that links to him. The researcher said that Thomas married a widow. That makes sense since the maiden name of Margaret and Lettica is really McHugh. I don't know where the researcher got her info, since her email bounces now; so this is all second-hand and not sourced. Sure wish I could contact her...... I recently was able to obtain a copy of Jeremiah Curtin's memoirs, but haven't begun to go through it. I did note in the foreword that it was written after his death by his wife. Unfortunately his early years are discussed in about 10 pages or so. I didn't even have a chance to see if it's indexed. Powell's Books are wonderful. I may never be able to prove the lineage to Jeremiah Curtin, but my 80-year old mother says her grandmother told her we were related. When my youngest was in high school, she did a genealogy project about 1980 and my mother wrote it down back then too. Now how many people outside of Milwaukee are aware of Jeremiah Curtin's existence today? So Susan if you're out there, I'd love to talk to you. Pam Oregon

    11/22/2004 05:49:33
    1. Re: [WiMilwau] 1850 Milwaukee, Thomas Curtin
    2. Peterson, Jim and Karen
    3. Hello Pam, My husbands family is descended from an early Milw Curtin family also. His ancestor was John Curtin, b 1-1--1812, d Feb 6 1892 in Milwaukee. He was married to a Julia Flyn. Both buried in Calvary. I have been trying to tie the 2 Curtin families together with the help of Susan Krueger (who email no longer responds). As of now, I have two Thomas Curtins: 1. Thomas Curtin - settled in Iowa, married a widow and has 2 girls . This is all the info I have (from Susan). 2. Thomas Curtin, b about 1844. This could be the Thomas Curtin that died on the Lady Elgin as a Lizzie Curtin died also on that boat and if related, they are cousins. Thomas Curtin was the son of Lawrence Curtin and Elizabeth Noonen. This is listed in the 1850, 3rd ward census for Milwaukee Co. (Couldn't find him in 1860). I have more info on all Curtin families if you are interested. Karen Pamela Wagoner wrote: > I recently discovered that my 3rd great grandmother, Ann MCHUGH, married > Thomas CURTIN, probably in Milwaukee about 1850. Ann, Thomas and Ann's > daughters from her first marriage, Margaret and Lettica, are listed in > the 1850 census in the 3 ward of Milwaukee. Sometime between 1850 and > 1854, the family moves to Glenwood, Iowa. > > According to the Curtin Clan genealogist, another Curtin researcher had > told her that Thomas had married a widow from Canada. That researcher's > email address bounces. So I'm guessing that Ann McHugh was widowed > while living in Milwaukee. > > Thomas is the uncle of Jeremiah Curtin. > > I wonder if anyone on the list has access to the 1846 or 1847 > territorial census index for Milwaukee and could look for a James > Francis or Frank McHugh. McHugh is sometimes spelled McCue. Or even > see if Ann is listed as a widow. > > Since my research is new to this location, any places to contact for > this period would also be helpful. Thanks for any thoughts. > > Pam > Oregon > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx

    11/20/2004 08:27:41
    1. Re: [WiMilwau] 1850 Milwaukee, Thomas Curtin
    2. Sorry that I won't be able to help you. Back in the 1980's the Milwaukee Historical Society, in their quarterly magazine, ran an article on Jeremiah Curtin covering three of the issues with the last dealing mainly with his wife and secretary. Thomas Curtin is mentioned a few times but never a wife with the name of Ann McCue/McHugh. Only one woman was listed: Lizzie, the wife of Thomas. Off hand, without looking it up, I don't know if this Thomas is the father or maybe some other relative but it definitely lists a Lizzie as the wife of Thomas. I also found Thomas one other time in the 40+ histories of Milwaukee that I have read but no wife was mentioned in any of them. Wish I could have helped you more. Bob of Brookfield

    11/20/2004 05:19:09
    1. 1850 Milwaukee, Thomas Curtin
    2. Pamela Wagoner
    3. I recently discovered that my 3rd great grandmother, Ann MCHUGH, married Thomas CURTIN, probably in Milwaukee about 1850. Ann, Thomas and Ann's daughters from her first marriage, Margaret and Lettica, are listed in the 1850 census in the 3 ward of Milwaukee. Sometime between 1850 and 1854, the family moves to Glenwood, Iowa. According to the Curtin Clan genealogist, another Curtin researcher had told her that Thomas had married a widow from Canada. That researcher's email address bounces. So I'm guessing that Ann McHugh was widowed while living in Milwaukee. Thomas is the uncle of Jeremiah Curtin. I wonder if anyone on the list has access to the 1846 or 1847 territorial census index for Milwaukee and could look for a James Francis or Frank McHugh. McHugh is sometimes spelled McCue. Or even see if Ann is listed as a widow. Since my research is new to this location, any places to contact for this period would also be helpful. Thanks for any thoughts. Pam Oregon

    11/19/2004 06:41:04