Images sent off-list. John Could someone look up two obituaries for me? They are both from Milwaukee. They are Ralph KOEPKE, died 6 October 1993 and Victor KOEPKE, died 16 April 1990. Any help will be very much appreciated. Thank you, Sharon Peot

Dear Listers, If there is someone on the list who frequents a library that has the microfilm for Wisconsin births, I would greatly appreciate a look-up for the following: Moller, Adelle V. born 4/21/1904 Milwaukee Reel 206 Record 0001348 The Family History Center near me is undergoing renovation, so I am unable to order the film at this time. Please either answer to the list, or put Moller in the subject line, as my spamBlocker is set high. I do look at the subject line of all quarintened mail however. Thank you in advance, Anne Gwaltney [email protected]

The Croatia list at Rootsweb has recently been talking about roast lamb and holiday traditions and how they help keep a family and a community tied together. Then a friend forwarded this series of recollections below to me and I thought it worth asking for more details. For me this quote below is a time vaguely recalled and I think the monies mentioned underpriced even for the 50's. Aunty, when we visited on vacation, spent $30 for 4 bags of groceries to feed the 5 of us, Uncle, and Aunty, and Grandma, Mom, and me. I'd never seen anyone spend so much money. It would have been c. 1955, in Iowa. But $30 and not 20 as it says below. Mid - 60's, my oldest cousin worked in a laundry all summer to get money for college. She got either 75 cents or a dollar per hour. When I started college shortly afterwards, my first job was a plum, at $1.25 an hour, to show slides for lectures, way above the minimum. My friends were envious of me, working as they did at McDonalds. I was envious of married friends in school, he working for UPS for unheard of money around $7 an hour and SHE was a unionized grocery checkout clerk making AT LEAST $7.75 an hour. Amazing money, not available today. It meant they could go to school, buy books, afford records and concerts, dress well, travel to Europe in summer and take a brief winter vacation together too. At a guess, her union job would be inflated up to about $30 an hour today. Perhaps today computer guru's make similar money, today's grocery check out --- 35 to 40 years later -- is making actual wages less than she did then. The minimum wage maybe broke a dollar in the 70's. Baseball salaries were high in the 20's for superstars at least. Babe Ruth is famously quoted as saying, to a reporter asking about his inflated income compared to the President of the USA, 'I had a better year.' Thirty years before this author says a baseball player made more than the President, Ruth was news partly because he got paid better than Coolidge or Hoover. The fun of driving around in a new car, showing it off to family and friends, was nearly a religious ritual in the midwest on Sunday. Sunday for a drive in the country, not doing anything in particular, gas was cheap and no one calculated mileage unless they had to for work. Sunday drivers were these people, family, a car full, gawking at the rubes, the drive up restaurants, the amusement parks, rarely driving in from the country to the big city for a parade or air show. Mostly driving from the midsized towns to the farm to get fresh vegetables or maintain family contacts. Until mid - 70's, the USA produced within its borders the majority of the gas everyone needed for having fun as well as driving to work. Gas really was cheap then: today about 1/3 of the gas consumed is produced here, much of the rest is from the Arab states. Somethings have changed. From the 1920's onward, about 20 percent of adult women worked full time outside the home, with more doing so in the war years, but continuing in the 50's and 60's, then the percentage rising abruptly in the 70's. But if you consider volunteer jobs, supporting the church, running charitable events, and part - time paid jobs, working at the bakery just till time for the children to get home from school, sewing for the neighbors, etc. more than half of adult women had some paid work outside the home. Some of that work was under the table, invisible, but if Grandma acted as a midwife, her daughter 20 years on was an Avon lady or a cake baker, and the becoming adult granddaughter was a baby sitter or Saturday house cleaning helper. This is the work history that's lost because it's undocumented. I think it's important, just as the stories implied in each of the statements below are, as a reflection upward to the new century of a forgotten time. Maybe when you get around to WRITING your family history, not just documenting the dates, but talking about the people, you could consider mentioning the lives they lived, the prices they paid for groceries, the 60 hour work week, harnessing up the horse when work or church was more than 4 miles because that was too far to walk in an hour. Your grandma and grandpa would like to be remembered as they lived, not just as that collection of birth and death certificates you've worked so hard to acquire. Would some kind person next post -- Easter, in 2006, please write to remind me to count up my narrative pages, and not just how many more data bits I've added to the counting of relatives? Thanks, Ashley ----- Original Message ----- From: Mira Comments recalled from 1959 "I'll tell you one thing, if things keep going the way they are, it's going to be impossible to buy a week's groceries for $20." "Have you seen the new cars coming out next year? It won't be long before $2000 will only buy a used one." "If cigarettes keep going up in price, I'm going to quit. A quarter a pack is ridiculous." "Did you hear the post office is thinking about charging a dime just to mail a letter?" "If they raise the minimum wage to $1, nobody will be able to hire outside help at the store." "When I first started driving, who would have thought gas would someday cost 29 cents a gallon. Guess we'd be better off leaving the car in the garage." "Kids today are impossible. Those duck tail hair cuts make it impossible to stay groomed. Next thing you know, boys will be wearing their hair as long as the girls." "I'm afraid to send my kids to the movies any more. Ever since they let Clark Gable get by with saying 'damn' in 'Gone With The Wind,' it seems every new movie has either "hell" or "damn" in it. "I read the other day where some scientist thinks it's possible to put a man on the moon by the end of the century. They even have some fellows they call astronauts preparing for it down in Texas." "Did you see where some baseball player just signed a contract for $75,000 a year just to play ball? It wouldn't surprise me if someday they'll be making more than the president." "I never thought I'd see the day all our kitchen appliances would be electric. They are even making electric typewriters now." "It's too bad things are so tough nowadays. I see where a few married women are having to work to make ends meet." "It won't be long before young couples are going to have to hire someone to watch their kids so they can both work." "Marriage doesn't mean a thing any more; those Hollywood stars seem to be getting divorced at the drop of a hat." "I'm just afraid the Volkswagen car is going to open the door to a whole lot of foreign business." "Thank goodness I won't live to see the day when the Government takes half our income in taxes. I sometimes wonder if we are electing the best people to congress." "The drive-in restaurant is convenient in nice weather, but I seriously doubt they will ever catch on." "There is no sense going to Lincoln or Omaha anymore for a weekend. It costs nearly $15 a night to stay in a hotel." "No one can afford to be sick any more; $35 a day in the hospital is too rich for my blood." "If they think I'll pay 50 cents for a hair cut, forget it."

Could someone look up two obituaries for me? They are both from Milwaukee. They are Ralph KOEPKE, died 6 October 1993 and Victor KOEPKE, died 16 April 1990. Any help will be very much appreciated. Thank you, Sharon Peot __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Morning all, Rumor has it warmer weather is finally arriving this week!! Can't wait. :) Wondering, anyone making plans to go to probate court to do research? If so, could you look up and obtain copies of two files for me, please. Email off the list if you can help and I will provide the information. Thank you Marge

My understanding is that anyone going to the courthouse without an appointment may look at the car index, but not obtain copies of the will...so they may be able to verify if a will was on file--but not be able to get a copy for you....I was in for out of State---way out--1200+ miles out--but they courthouse would not bend it's rules for even 1 will that day. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:44 AM Subject: [WiMilwau] Probate court help > Morning all, > > Rumor has it warmer weather is finally arriving this week!! Can't wait. :) > > Wondering, anyone making plans to go to probate court to do research? > > If so, could you look up and obtain copies of two files for me, please. > > Email off the list if you can help and I will provide the information. > > Thank you > Marge > > > ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== > For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

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Dear Pat, Here is the obit from the Milwaukee journal: Adams, Katherine (nee Glanz) age 88. Formerly of 3111 W. Fairmount Ave.. Passed away March 3, 1972 at Wis. Luth. Child. And Family Service Center. Dear mother of Mrs. Anna Burbach, Mrs. Eva (Jacob) Rinehart, Mrs. Sarah (Dave) Lieber, and Michael (Florence) Adams. Dear sister of Mrs. Marie Weitzel. Further survived by son-in-law Sam Green and daughter-in-law Mrs. Amelia Adams, 26 grandchildren, 47 great-grandchildren, other relatives and friends. Funeral 1 pm Tuesday at North Trinity Ev. Luth. Church with Rev. M. F. Liesener officiating. In state after 4 pm Monday at Aug. J. Abe-Larsen Bros. Funeral Home, W. Villard at N 37th, and after 11 am Tuesday at the church. Interment Graceland. In lieu of flowers memorials to the church appreciated. Milwaukee journal, Sun. 3/5/1972, Classifieds p. 2 Hope it has the information that you need. Anne -----Original Message----- From: JAMES BOETTCHER <[email protected]> Sent: Mar 15, 2005 11:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [WiMilwau] Re: Obit lookup needly badly - please Dear List: I am at a brick wall and hope that there is someone who can look up an obit for Katherine Adams that died in Milwaukee on March 3, 1972. This would be such a big help. Thanks in advance. Pat ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Forwarded to the Milwaukee mailing list for those who aren't subscribed to genWI. Hope you find it interesting. Ashley ----- Original Message ----- From: pgleich To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:35 PM Subject: [GenWisc] Green Co Genealogical Society program 2 April - "Precious Cargo - Orphan Trains" Green County Genealogical Society program 2 April, Saturday 10:00 a.m. Note change in locate this month: Monticello Historical Society, Main St in Monticello - Precious Cargo on the Orphan Trains "Precious cargo" is what the Orphan Trains carried on their way westward from New York and is the half of the title of the book written by presenter, Clark Kidder of Milton. Kidder will give this fascinating program to the members and guests of the Green County Genealogical Society when they meet Saturday, 2 April, at the Monticello Historical Society on Main Street at 10:00 a.m. Kidder wrote <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/078841755X/familyrumors-20/104-2 618960-7813513> Orphan Trains and Their Precious Cargo: The Life's Work of Rev. H. D. Clarke in 2001. He is involved in the National Society of Orphan Train Riders. Dedicated to finding homes for these lost children, there are many stories to be told. The Orphan Trains follows the story of the New York Children's Aid Society, created in 1853 to provide thousands of street children with homes in rural communities in the American Midwest. This forerunner of modern foster care forever changed the lives of poor urban children--sometimes providing them with great opportunity, sometimes bringing heartbreak and disappointment. They ran until 1929. Kidder brings personal experience to his program through his grandmother, who rode on the Orphan Train in 1906 with Rev. Clark. Kidder is also the family genealogist and has also written several books on Marilyn Monroe, as well as being an avid collector and seller of Monroe items. He lectures around the area when he is not farming and helping with his family. Guests are welcome to attend and bring friends. Refreshments will be served. Those just beginning their family history studies are welcome to join us and have questions answered. <http://www.rootsweb.com/~wigreen> www.rootsweb.com/~wigreen. ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore email: [email protected]

I was hoping that someone could assist me in acquiring a copy of an article from the Milwaukee Sentinel, 25 September 1928. The copy I have is a copy of a copy of a copy. It was a full page spread on the arrival of the ship, the "Harry Coulby" and included pictures of Raymond Vanidour and Sir Thomas Lipton who was travelling the Great Lakes on the Coulby. Any assistance is appreciated. Robert Vanidour London Canada

>> Hello, Does anyone have access to the immigration/passenger lists for Ancestry or Genealogy.com? Germans to America records I am looking for immigration info on: Friedericke Doss Friedericke Doss Williamsen b. Ger. July 4, 1858 d. Mar. 20, 1914 Milw, WI Father: Fred Doss b. Germany Mother: Sophie b. Germany Husband: Rudolph Williamsen b. 1858 Wisconsin d. Jan. 15, 1931 Milwaukee, WI Married: April 21, 1879 Milw. Wi Father: E. Williams Mother: G. Williams Laura [email protected]

I am looking for an obituary or any information about Kathryn R. Newcomb, nee Aupperle who died in Milwaukee on 24 October 1995. Thank You Richard Eugene, Oregon

Pat, Do you still need this information? I plan to be at a library this week that has the Milwaukee Journal on microfilm. If no one has checked it for you, let me know. Anne -----Original Message----- From: JAMES BOETTCHER <[email protected]> Sent: Mar 15, 2005 11:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [WiMilwau] Re: Obit lookup needly badly - please Dear List: I am at a brick wall and hope that there is someone who can look up an obit for Katherine Adams that died in Milwaukee on March 3, 1972. This would be such a big help. Thanks in advance. Pat ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I was hoping that someone could assist me in acquiring a copy of an article from the Milwaukee Sentinel, 25 September 1928. The copy I have is a copy of a copy of a copy. It was a full page spread on the arrival of the ship, the "Harry Coulby" and included pictures of Raymond Vanidour and Sir Thomas Lipton who was travelling the Great Lakes on the Coulby. Any assistance is appreciated. Robert Vanidour London Canada

One of my Milwaukee families is as follows: RYBOLD, Martin, 1828-1891, from Hessen-Darmstadt --three wives: LANGENFELD, Rachael (aka Regina, Rosene), ca 1830-1864 HUEBSCHLE, Sophia, 1833-1879 KUNZ, Annie LAUBACH (widow of Peter), 1830-1898 ten children: Elizabeth Rybold (Jacob) KLEBER (William)RANDOLPH; Emma Rybold (George) DAGENDESH; Martin John RYBOLD (Frederika BUSSE); Sarah Rybold (August) MARHOFER [all Rachael's] ********** Anna HUEBSCHLE RYBOLD (Otto) RIESTERER (Hiram G.) HOLMES; [Sophia's daughter] ********** Richard RYBOLD (Cecilia GAUBATZ); Anton RYBOLD (Katherine REICHERT); Ida RYBOLD; Louis RYBOLD (Maggie BARRETT); Pauline RYBOLD (George) HEILL [all Sophia's] ************* Children of Annie and Peter KUNZ (names found in various sources): Fred [not listed in Annie's will] John [not listed in Annie's will] Peter George Amelia (same as Annie STOLP?) Jacob Mary Kunz HECKMAN Charles In later years, the children of Martin have the following connections: Elizabeth, Emma, and Martin went to LA CROSSE, WISCONSIN. Sarah (without August), Ida, and Louis went to NEW YORK; the LANGENFELD family continued living in BUFFALO, NEW YORK. Dianne

I am looking for an obituary or any information on this married couple. Bryon Ralph Carle, born 14 March 1906 and died in Milwaukee on 8 Feb. 1962 Stella Carle (maiden name unknown) born 3 Feb 1909 and died in Milwaukee on 24 June 1993. Thank You Richard Carle Eugene, Oregon

Does anyone know of a German Evangelical Church in the area of 21st and Cherry and 21st and Lisbon in the late 1800's? I need the name so I can track down records. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you-Sharon Peot __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Just received your ROLL CALL listing. I am volunteer researcher at historic cemetery of Milwaukee and would be willing to check your names if you would furnish given names also. Have you checked the website offerings of the 8 Roman Catholic Archdiocese cemeteries, the Wauwatosa Cemetery and the Wood National Soldiers Cemetery. If not I would be happy to furnish you with the website addresses if you would let me. know. See the name Blieser. Was Clarence and his wife Celesta but usually called Sally. They were old family friends but are now deceased and buried, I believe, at Wisconsin Memorial Park in Brookfield, Wisconsin. Bob of Brookfield

Dear Listers, My husband's family has lived in the Milwaukee area since the mid 1800's. They include the following surnames, and, of course, with various spellings: WIERSCHEM BLIESNER LIEB BAMBERG MEYER (John & Veronica -- born 1819 and 1830; daus. Margaretha, Elizabeth & Christina) BAUER (John -- daughter Margaret b. about 1847) MEHM FLIEGEL DRESSEN (William & Margaret -- b. about 1805) Ken & Jane Wierschem

Harvey Clark Civil War Pension Looking for other researcher. Have more information on these people. If you find name you know lets get together. James Nelson Rchardson b. Dec 25, 1826 Cortland, Ny. d. 1910 Mt Hope Cem Sparta, Monroe Co. Wi parents John Richardson 1794 - 1875 Ny Hannah Fairbanks 1797 - 1888 Ny bur Leon Cem Sparta, Monroe Co. Wi. mar Aug 26, 1847 Courtland Co. Ny. Clarissa Webster b. Oct 3, 1826 Cuyler, Cortland Co. Ny. d. 1901 Mt Hope Cem. Sparta, Wi parents Asahel Webster 1780 - 1848 Keeney Cem. Fabius, Onondago Co. Ny. Clarissa Slingerland 1790-1864 same as spouse James sister Polly Dolly Jane Rchardson b. 1825 Cuyler, Ny. d. Apr 4, 1893 Milwaukee, Milwaukee Co. Wi mar Apr 23, 1851 Cuyler, Ny. Harvey Clark b. 1822 Ny. d. Sep 20, 1863 New Orleans, La. died Civil War, sick fell in water from steamboat bur New Woodstock Cem. Harvey parents Joseph H. Clark unknown was last in Fabius, Ny. 1856 mar May 26, 1814 Fabius, Ny. Ruth Hills b. Jun 4, 1792 Gastonbury, Hartford Co. Ct. d. Oct 20, 1828 unknown Will answer all e-mail Thank you Ann in Ks.