Can someone tell me the best place to find a more comprehensive manifest? One that gives more information about the people. Would there be a record in the origin city or the departing port? Ship: Admiral Port of Departure: LeHarve, France Origin: Wurtemberg, Germany Arrival Date: July 14, 1856 Port of Arrival: New York Lucia Bender and her 9 children all on the same voyage. Laura [email protected]

I don't know if Elaine Kraft is a member of our list, but she might be someone to contact, through the Milwaukee Genealogical Society, for questions on Protestant churches. If I didn't have to work on Friday, I would attend this event--it sounds interesting. mrf Milwaukee -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [MCGS Announce] MCGS program April 22, 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:47:25 -0500 (CDT) From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Please join us for a presentation by Elaine Kraft this Friday, April 22 at 1:00PM in the downtown library, 814 W. Wisconsin Ave. Elaine has done extensive research to locate Protestant church records. She will let us know what is available and where it is. Many of these churches no longer exist, but their records do. She will tell you where the records are. Elaine has found many sources under unusual names at the Family History Library and will share that information too. We meet in Conference Room 1. It is located just inside the Wisconsin Ave. entrance in the hallway to the right before you enter the book stacks. Just a reminder, there is ample parking, but bring quarters: $.25 for 15 minutes. We hope to see you on Friday! -- Karla Korsch Millerd Webmistress ~ Milwaukee County Genealogical Society

Marguerite, etc.---> please try the following: http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=2345 &itemType=PRODUCT _______________________________________________ Re: National Geographic's new GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT In a message dated 4/19/2005 11:34:23 A.M. CDT, [email protected] writes: I read where it costs $99 to subscribe. However, I found NO application. Marguerite Holmes _______________________________________________

==================================== Subj: Re: DNA & Genealogy Date: 4/18/2005 1:27:44 A.M. CDT John, Thanks for the timely message. I forwarded most of it to the Croatia list at Rootsweb as the last few postings have been about DNA testing. Are you....bidding on the collection of the Landlord's Game at E-Bay? ...... Ashley ==================================== Re: National Geographic's new GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT Ashley's note above made me think that I should send the following on to a few RootsWeb lists to which I haven't submitted much for a long time. This info below is a reformatting of some PDF material that a brother of mine sent me yesterday via email attachment. I'm not sure-- but I'm hopeful the following is essentially "on topic." No, I'm not participating in the Landlord's Game (or Monopolygate) auction. But I am pleased that my formerly obscure cousin Lizzie J. Magie (1866-1948), AFN 12KM-18C, recently identified as the true (ca. 1903) originator of Monopoly (the world's most popular board game), is getting so much Internet attention these days. I see that this "Monopolygate" auction is apparently ending in less than FIVE hours-- at 9:30 pm tonight (CDT): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5185126771 I'm really more interested in historical facts than historic (and historical) memorabilia. Thus, I'm interested in, for example, in Babe Ruth's life & times-- but have very little desire to possess his bats, undergarments, etc.-- probably unlike the late [see below] Malcolm Forbes (and his silly son [or sons?]). But fortunately the wealthy Forbes family has some real attachment to this kind of thing (along with old Forbes tartans, ancient haggis recipes, etc.)-- just as the US government has mercifully not tossed out insect-contaminated original copies of the Declaration of Independence. .......John __________________________________________________________________ http://www.ajc.com/hp/content/auto/epaper/editions/sunday/news_242670e9a29b314 3006b.html The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Sunday, April 17, 200 ----------------------------- WAY PAST THE FAMILY TREE Science: National Geographic project hopes to trace genomes to beginning of species BY Mike Toner [email protected] The National Geographic Society has begun what may be the ultimate search for human roots. For $99.95 and a swab of spit, anyone can join in and get a whole new perspective on the family tree. The society last week launched a five-year project to seek the origins of the human species and map the migration of ancient peoples out of Africa as they populated the globe. The $40 million Genographic Project will collect blood samples from 100,000 indigenous peoples throughout the world, analyze them for genetic markers and try to determine their geographic origins. "Our DNA tells a fascinating story of the human journey, how we are all related and how our ancestors got to where we are today," says population geneticist Spencer Wells, who will head the project. To generate public interest, Geographic also is offering a test kit that will allow anyone to take a swab of saliva and send it to a laboratory for DNA analysis. For assisting in the project's finances, participants will get a "personalized genetic analysis," a peek at their "deep ancestral history" --- and assurances of total privacy. The kits can be ordered at www3.nationalgeographic .com/genographic. Individual test results are expected to take about six weeks. Lest anyone be seeking proof that their ancestors came over on the Mayflower, National Geographic cautions that the test will "not provide names for your personal family tree or tell you where your great-grandparents lived." The society does promise, however, that everyone will get a genetic profile that will tell them something about their "deep ancestors." Really deep. Most fossil evidence suggests that modern humans appeared in Africa between 100,000 and 200,000 years ago and began migrating to other continents about 60,000 years ago. Some scientists say there was a single migration; some say more. Asia, Europe and Australia were the next to be populated. The Americas were the last. If scientists are right, all 6 billion people living on the planet today have ancestors who lived in Africa a long time ago. That concept has prompted some scientists to suggest that an African "Adam and Eve" --- or at least a small group of genetically similar hunter-gatherers --- lie at the base of what is now a many-branched human family tree. "We have some indications from prior studies about the migration of people in the last 50,000 to 10,000 years," says Ajay Royyuru of IBM's Computational Biology Center, which is collaborating on the project. "What's missing is the detail, the ability for everyone on the planet to be able to see, understand, exactly how they got to be where they are." Ten research centers around the world will receive funding from the Waitt Family Foundation --- founded by Gateway computer magnate Ted Waitt --- to collect and analyze the DNA samples. Each individual, from hair color to susceptibility to certain diseases, is the result of the unique combination of their parents' genetic code. But some genetic material, the male Y chromosome and maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA, is passed to the succeeding generations essentially unchanged, except for rare natural mutations that enable researchers to identify lineages extending back for thousands of years. "Once a particular marker appears by mutation in a man, all of his descendants will also carry that marker," Wells says. "If we compile information on a large set of markers and project them back in time using computer algorithms, the trail of mutations coalesces in a single Y-chromosome whose owner lived between 40,000 to 140,000 years ago in Africa." Because that mutation, named M94, is now carried by every man on the planet, Wells likes to call this man "Genetic Adam." But even he concedes the term may be misleading. He says there were certainly other humans living at the same time. Their lineages simply didn't make it to the present. DNA road maps Subsequent random mutations define later branches of the human family tree: lineages that crept out of Africa into Mesopotamia, some that headed east to Asia, and others that moved north, with the advent of agriculture, into the Caucasus and Europe. American Indians still carry marker mutations that first occurred among the natives of Siberia, and their genetic fingerprints came with them when their ancestors crossed the Bering Strait more than 12,000 years ago. Wells says the dozens of other random mutations that have accumulated in the DNA of contemporary humans --- in addition to Genetic Adam's M94 mutation --- constitute a kind of genetic fingerprint that can reveal whether their distant ancestors passed through the Middle East or the land bridge from Siberia or crossed the ocean from Europe to America. Initial efforts to use DNA to track human migrations, a project headed a few years ago by Stanford University population geneticist Luca Cavalli-Sforza, sampled the DNA from 52 indigenous groups and found five clusters of lineages that closely matched their ancestors' continent of origin. With a goal of collecting more than 100,000 DNA samples representing every indigenous group on the planet, the National Geographic effort hopes to paint a much more detailed picture of human migration. The society also hopes to avoid the political fuss that, more than a decade ago, prompted the federal government to withdraw support for a similar project that was intended to study the human genome. Urgency to project Unlike the federally funded effort, which was criticized for overtones of racism in looking for genetic differences among populations, National Geographic will not gather any information on genetic diseases and will make all of its anthropological data freely available. Wells says he feels a sense of urgency in the project. He says as political upheavals, environmental disruption and air travel prompt more people to move, the world is becoming less genetically diverse. Indigenous populations in particular are under pressure. "We need to take a genetic snapshot of who we are as a species before the geographic and cultural context are lost in the melting pot," he says. =============================================== .........are lost in the melting pot," he says. __________________________________________________________________ http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/journey.html Did you ever wonder about your most ancient ancestors? The Genographic Project will introduce you to them, and explain the genetic journeys that bond your personal lineage over tens of thousands of years. STEP 1: TEST Once you have purchased your own Genographic Project Public Participation Kit, you can begin the exploration into your deep ancestry. The first step involves a painless cheek swab to acquire a DNA sample. Once you have completed the cheek swabbing process, you will secure the swabs inside the transport tubes and mail the tubes off to the lab using the supplied envelope. It's that simple, and guaranteed anonymous. STEP 2: TRACK The exploration continues here in the Genographic Project Web site where you can track your test kit, step by step, through the various stages of DNA sequencing and processing. Along the way, multimedia presentations explain how scientists actually decode the information found in the molecules of your DNA. STEP 3: EXPLORE When your results are ready Project Director Dr. Spencer Wells will introduce you to your earliest human relatives—the members of your specific haplogroup. You'll receive a personalized genetic analysis, including an online overview of your deep ancestral history. The analysis reveals where and when your haplogroup originated and how they lived. You'll also receive a dynamic map, specific to your lineage, on which to trace your relatives' journeys across the planet. Your haplogroup's story may evolve as the Genographic Project collects thousands of DNA samples during the next few years. When it does, tantalizing new chapters will be added to this website and your information will be updated. The entire online process is completely anonymous so no one, including project scientists, will ever be able to access your results. But, if you choose, you can share them. A printable, hi-resolution certificate of participation, map, and haplogroup overview serve as compelling documentation of your deep ancestry. The Genographic Project is an exciting exploration of your personal genetic background. But it also has a broader mission. If you choose to anonymously contribute your genetic results to the project database you'll participate on a global scale—and help further define the vast scope of the human genetic journey. __________________________________________________________________ _http://events.skyteam.com/sisp/skyteam/?fx=event&event_id=32380_ (http://events.skyteam.com/sisp/skyteam/?fx=event&event_id=32380) FORBES MAGAZINE GALLERY The late Malcolm Forbes, successful magazine publisher and a passionate collector, filled this small museum in Greenwich Village with an astonishing array of toys, games and kick-knacks that will delight adults and children alike. [Collections include:] ......the original Monopoly board (displayed alongside the Landlord's Game that inspired it) and Abraham Lincoln's stovepipe hat and spectacles. There's also a selection of presidential papers, 500 rare toy boats, tootling toy trains....[etc.] Tours, which take place every Thursday, provide a fascinating background to the man himself and his somewhat obsessive dedication to acquisition.... When: Daily; not Mon or Sun Cost: Free Opening Hours: Tue, Wed, Fri & Sat 10am-4pm; Thu reserved for tours only Name: Forbes Magazine Gallery Address: 60, 5th Ave, New York City, USA, 10011 Tel: +1 212 206 5549 __________________________________________________________________ http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5185126771 HISTORICAL MONOPOLY COLLECTION - Unique!! The evidence that proved Darrow did not invent Monopoly Item number: 5185126771 ......Current bid: US $13,100.00 (Reserve met) Time left: 4 hours 51 mins 7-day listing, Ends Apr-18-05 19:30:00 PDT Start time: Apr-11-05 19:30:00 PDT Seller information tttata4now ( 1 ) Feedback Score: ( 1 ) Positive Feedback: 100% Member since Apr-20-03 in United States [in die deutsche Sprache: Angaben zum Verkäufer tttata4now ( 1 ) Bewertungsprofil: ( 1 ) Positive Bewertungen: 100% Mitglied seit 20.04.03 in Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika] __________________________________________________________________

I have an extensive list of churches on my website. Also informaition on how to obtain vitals. Ellen- www.LinksToThePast.com/milwaukee *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/15/2005 at 5:18 PM martha wrote: >I have several families that lived in Milwaukee mid to late 1800. How >would I go about finding what churches existed around where they lived? >Also where would I write for vital records for Milwaukee? What time >frames would I be able to obtain? > >Thank you, > >Martha S. > > >==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== >For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Due to the high maintenance issue involved in keeping email addresses updated and also in an effort to help prevent spam and virus robots from harvesting email addresses from the Milwaukee Genealogy website, the Surname registry has been moved to theBubbler.com forums. My thoughts behind posting at theBubbler.com is that you may be able to reach more people than you would ordinarily. When you post to a genealogy only forum you are reaching only people that are also looking for "family". If you post to a general interest forum, there is potential to reach a broader spectrum of people and perhaps find someone that didn't even realize that people are looking for the information they have. Please visit theBubbler.com forums (http://www.thebubbler.com/modules.php?name=Forums) to submit your surname to the registry. (scroll down to the Genealogy Lost Families section) You need to become a member of theBubbler.com before posting to the forums. Membership is completely free. theBubbler.com is a Premier Wisconsin Information Source designed, produced and maintained by OnYourMark, LLC (www.OnYourMark.com), the company I work for. theBubbler.com respects your privacy! We do not sell or give away your email address.<br><br> If you have any other questions please feel free to email me. I am the moderator of the Genealogy Forums and would be more than happy to answer your questions. I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. E- (LinksToThePast) Milwaukee County Genealogy Website Coordinator www.LinksToThePast.com

I have several families that lived in Milwaukee mid to late 1800. How would I go about finding what churches existed around where they lived? Also where would I write for vital records for Milwaukee? What time frames would I be able to obtain? Thank you, Martha S.

In a message dated 4/14/2005 12:46:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: ATTENTION It is now spring housecleaning time. Is anyone interested in "Two Samsonite two suiters, accompanying Overnight bag and Shoulder Bag". Please E-mail or call us Today/Tonite! LOVE YA DAD Hi Dad, Thanks very much for the generous offer but we just purchased some new luggage this weekend. Love you too. Mike (-:

ATTENTION It is now spring housecleaning time. Is anyone interested in "Two Samsonite two suiters, accompanying Overnight bag and Shoulder Bag". Please E-mail or call us Today/Tonite! LOVE YA DAD

I've "rescued" an old photograph of Jean Chamberlain HASELTON which was taken at the Small & Zivney Studio in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's or 1890's with Jean looking to be about 5 years old at the time. Based on limited research I did find Jean Chamberlain HASELTON b. 30 Dec 1885 at Milwaukee, WI to parents Hyatt Smith HASELTON and Almena Swift DOOLITTLE. I'm hoping to locate someone from this family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of this family or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Is anyone going to the library that could do an obiturary lookup for the following? August Martin Hottinger Died: Jan. 25, 1963 (75 yrs old) Milwaukee, WI Born: Basel Switzerland Wife: Amanda Edward James Tacke Died: April 25, 1947 (44 yrs) Milwaukee, WI Born: Milwaukee, WI Wife: Clara Children: Terry, Ronald, Marilyn

People with Bremerhaven ancestors are being sought to appear in a film. See below. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: German Emigration Center Bremerhaven seeks descendants of immigrants for museum film Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:11:19 -0500 From: Max Kade Institute at UW-Madison <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: MKI To: undisclosed-recipients: ; The German Emigration Center [Deutsches Auswandererhaus (DAH)] of Bremerhaven, Germany, is producing a six-minute documentary film on German migrants and their ancestors. They are now collecting migration stories so that a group of six to eight persons can be selected to appear in the museum film and relate their ancestors' stories to a museum audience. All personal stories are welcome, although only those relating to people who migrated via Bremerhaven are eligible for the film. A questionnaire form in PDF format is available at the DAH Web site: http://www.dah-bremerhaven.de/english/PDFs/datasheet.pdf The film's director hopes to select storytellers for the film by *mid April*, so time is of the essence! For more information about the German Emigration Center Bremerhaven, visit their Web site: http://www.dah-bremerhaven.de/english/hauptseite.html

I am looking for descendants of John Ahrens who came to Milwaukee in 1870 from the Mecklenburg area of Germany. His wife was Sophia and children William, Emil, Adele and tow other girls. His obituary, October 1, 1928 in the Milwaukee Journal lists his survivors as Mrs. Ernst Welke, Mrs. Joe Bruhn and Mrs. Raymond Meredith, Emil and William. Please contact me if you recognize this family as I have more information. Gloria [email protected]

I am looking for descendants of John Ahrens who came to Milwaukee in 1870 from the Mecklenburg area of Germany. His wife was Sophia and children William, Emil, Adele and two other girls. His obituary, October 1, 1928 in the Milwaukee Journal lists his survivors as Mrs. Ernst Welke, Mrs. Joe Bruhn and Mrs. Raymond Meredith, Emil and William. Please contact if you recognize this family. I have more information. Gloria [email protected]

Gloria, Sorry can't help but would like to suggest working on locating the MR. so and so names. One of those is likely Adele and the other two girls. It was very common then to refer to women as Mrs. male name so and so. Also, if the daughters were young and/or unmarried they are referred to as Miss female name surname. I have found some ladies by doing this. Good luck and happy hunting marge

I'm trying to find a marriage that took place after March 1934 and before Nov. 1946, between Harriet NIEMEYER & Camiel A. SMITH. Would this document tell where Camiel married his first wife in 1906? I can't find that marriage record either!! Does anyone have access to an index for Milwaukee's marriages-and would be willing to help solve this mystery? Thank you in advance! [email protected]

I'm looking for information on which Catholic parish was close to my STANISZEWSKI family. They lived at 896 11th Avenue (now 2170 South 16th Street). I'm trying to find the records for baptisms in 1883-1885. From 1887 on the parish of St. Hyacinth's had the family records. Any thoughts? Karen Duffy

Hello Listers, I am researching several different lines that lived in Milwaukee. I am looking for church records. Families are: 1. STELMACHOWSKI Polish (Germany) Known addresses: Residing at 879 Franklin St. (abt 1880-1900), 285 Hamilton St., 286 Highland Place, and 901 Astor St. (1920-?) 2. MACHUT Polish (Germany) Known addresses: Residing at 285 Hamilton St. 3. BAUERSCHMIDT German Known addresses: Residing at (1910) 633 Orchard St., (1920) 565 National St., and (1932) at 1033 National St. 4. VOHLA German Known addresses: Residing at 417 Mitchell (1889), 649 3rd Ave (1890), 499 Strelk ? (1900) 5. MALLOY Irish Known addresses: Residing (1880-1907) at 209 Detroit What churches might they have attended at these addresses? Also, where would I send for vital records? Where would I send for early records? Thank you. Martha S.

Dear John, Thank you so very much. It came through beautifully--it was just trapped in my quarintine folder for awhile. This has been one of my most persistant brick walls; its really nice to get it down. Now if I could only locate her as an adult! Her parents divorced, and mother and child moved to Chicago, where both later married, but rarely show up in the census record. Everyone in this Rolfe line seems to either die childless, or disappear into thin air. Adele's father disappears from Milwaukee around around 1913 (his last entry in the city directory), and I can't find him in the 1920 or 1930 census either. Nevertheless, just knowing for sure who her father really was (I was guessing), and her mother's full name is wonderful. Would you believe that her middle name was for her grandmother, whose name was Buena Vista!!! Thank you again, Anne -----Original Message----- From: John <[email protected]> Sent: Apr 1, 2005 5:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [WiMilwau] Moller birth look-up Anne- If you want a copy of this birth record, you need to e-mail me. I tried sending it but your spam filter is preventing it from going through. John From: [email protected] Subject: Moller birth look-up Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:39:43 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Dear Listers, If there is someone on the list who frequents a library that has the microfilm for Wisconsin births, I would greatly appreciate a look-up for the following: Moller, Adelle V. born 4/21/1904 Milwaukee Reel 206 Record 0001348 The Family History Center near me is undergoing renovation, so I am unable to order the film at this time. Please either answer to the list, or put Moller in the subject line, as my spamBlocker is set high. I do look at the subject line of all quarintened mail however. Thank you in advance, Anne Gwaltney ==== WIMILWAU Mailing List ==== For subscribe/unsubscribe and other general list information, please see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sewis/wimilwau.htm ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Anne- If you want a copy of this birth record, you need to e-mail me. I tried sending it but your spam filter is preventing it from going through. John From: [email protected] Subject: Moller birth look-up Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:39:43 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Dear Listers, If there is someone on the list who frequents a library that has the microfilm for Wisconsin births, I would greatly appreciate a look-up for the following: Moller, Adelle V. born 4/21/1904 Milwaukee Reel 206 Record 0001348 The Family History Center near me is undergoing renovation, so I am unable to order the film at this time. Please either answer to the list, or put Moller in the subject line, as my spamBlocker is set high. I do look at the subject line of all quarintened mail however. Thank you in advance, Anne Gwaltney

I remember someone was looking for probate help at the courthouse recently; well someone has told me that some early wills/probate are available on microfilm at UWM, so if the dates fit what they have, then you don't need to hassle with the expensive copying and making an appointment. .??? Hope this helps someone, Pam