This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: grube,Donner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2EC.2ACE/2340.1 Message Board Post: I would be interested if you had any information on a LUDWIG GRUBE born December 16, 1808 in Germany and a LIZZIE SCHWARTFIGER born January 8, 1833 in Germany.