saw your note on wilson L re marion ohio--any way you have to --run back up line to one of william-elizabeth's 9 (out 0f 11) who had children--also have your dna tested--ed wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: ED Wilson To: WilsonD212@aol.com Cc: busdriver413@netzero.net ; ASheler@aol.com ; jj@losalamos.com ; SKrogh125@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:27 PM Subject: Re: Fw: three Wilsons match in the 12 marker analysis thanks-reason urge all to up to 25 is that w/out those --refining --#'s we are dealing in maybe's -1500 plus yrs ago--and another is that even thou irish records may be hard to come by--think the scottish-english and even some irish name wilson's may be able to help if we can show -- we have a 23-25 or 25-25 match between wilson's in the states w/no connections here--as if the info i have( from a may 20-1932 tlr-have a copy-from leonard wilson u of cal )----is close to being correct--ie--from scotland--may be able to--back into a connection-( and maybe--get very lucky and have a wilson over there take a 25 marker test) --agree we need more info-tests --ed wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: WilsonD212@aol.com To: ed.wilson@attbi.com Cc: busdriver413@netzero.net ; ASheler@aol.com ; jj@losalamos.com ; SKrogh125@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Fw: three Wilsons match in the 12 marker analysis Dear Ed, Thanks for your response. I've also encouraged my cousin to upgrade to the 25 marker test. Based on your message below, I don't see any obvious link between your Wilson line and mine, at least in America. Given the locations, there may be a better possibility of a connection to Sandy's line from Joshua Wilson in VA. It's interesting that all three lines indicate an origin in northern Ireland. Unfortunately, there may be little chance of proving anything there, since almost all of the pre-1900 Irish records were destroyed when the PRO was burned about 1922. The emigration of the three lines to America may be another issue. My John Wilson of Perry Co., OH, had to be born before 1775, based on the 1820 Perry Co. census record that shows him over 45. I suspect that bef. 1770 would be a better estimate, since the ages of his youngest children suggest a marriage about 1790. I'm about 90% certain that he is the John Wilson in Buffaloe Twp., Washington Co., PA, in the 1810 census, based on the family structure (three males under 10, two 10 to 16, one 16-26, one female each under 10, 10-16, and 16-26); this matches the Perry Co. family. The oldest daughter was likely married by 1810. However, the 1800 John Wilson family in Buffaloe Twp. doesn't match this distribution -- only one male under 10, when there should have been at least two, possibly three. John's father (whose given name I have yet to find), then would have had to be b. bef. 1750, making him at least contemporary with your William and Sandy's Joshua. Since my John left York Co., PA in 1782 (by one unverified source), and there's no second male over 45 in the 1810 Buffaloe Twp. family, I think it's likely that he died before 1810. There are only a few Wilson wills from before 1810 in Washington Co., and none of these seems promising. I haven't tried to do anything yet in York Co. Without a given name, and with a surname as common as Wilson, I don't think there much chance. I had good luck last fall with real estate records in Perry Co., so maybe I can try that approach in Washington Co. One of the big problems is that Washington Co., PA, has Wilson's out the wazoo -- 20 in 1790, including four John's, and 42 in 1800, including 6 John's! FYI, Wilson-L is the Wilson surname mailing list at RootsWeb. Here a link to where you can subscribe: RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists: WILSON Surname Wilson DeCamp Vienna, VA In a message dated 4/18/2003 1:13:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ed.wilson@attbi.com writes: hi-this is rather unique to say the least--to hopefully reduce the margin of error--am upping my tests from 12 to 25-- on my side-- 1st-- William born in n Ireland in 1722-(1801)- came over in 1737---- William married Elizabeth Blackburn (1725-1806)-- I'm from # 2 son -- Archibald --1749-1814 -- Nancy Newman -- 2nd wife -- son William- b-1800-1862 -- wife-- Margaret Stadden--- son -- William Fletcher (1839-1909) -wife Martha Seymour-- son Edwin Blackburn -1861-1936 --wife-- Ida Mary Farmer--1866-1958 (my grandparents)-- son William Lewis--1895-1971-- wife-- Velma Grass-1902-1975-- back to Scotland --per what I have and no firm -hard doc --origin of the Wilson's 1. from Denmark to e Scotland in the 9th century -- 2. name evolved from -- Wilf-- Wolf in Danish --other names evolving into Wilson include Wilfson & Wylsong 3. massacred by King Ethelred in 1002 - ones who survived-escaped-took refuge in France and returned to the British isles w/William the Conqueror in 1066 (Battle of Hastings) 4. separated into 3 groups-branches--England-Scotland and Ireland 5. we are from the Scottish branch--and 6. first known? ancestor --David Wilson Sr. --b--1650 ? 7. David Wilson Jr. --1685 ? who fled to Ulster province-northern Ireland after the Scotch rebellion of 1715--(appears if above is anywhere close--we did not do well in picking the --the right side) 8.his son --William Wilson sr--born in Ulster province--11-16-1722 9. William in 1737 (age 15) along w/2 cousins -- John and William White- (later killed by Indians in (separate incidents) Randolph County now WV) ( their families--supposedly left the area and moved to Kentucky -- have nothing on them -except above and nothing back in n Ireland as William obv had a sister who married a fellow named white in n ire) left Ireland and landed in Philadelphia- 10. next known that William was in the n end of the Shenandoah valley near--Winchester VA in 1742 11. William sr married Elizabeth Blackbird (in 1746 ) who was born in Ulster pro-n i- 2-2-1725 (died 9-2-1806) both buried on the family farm near Wardensville -- (now) WV 12. several members of family moved to what is now Licking County Ohio in early 1800's-- my ggd-Fletcher-gdad Edwin and dad all born in Ohio-- gdad-family moved to Cages Bend (near Nashville) in 1895 -- he's buried in Tenn - dad to WA state-- 13. Oh before I forget --what is Wilson-l 14. yes 12 for 12 means we have a common ancestor -- ca-- but 50% chance in past 14 gen -- reason why went to 25 marker test 15. am most interested in several pieces of info (I am the adm of a Grass DNA project on mom's side - we have flunked the course on anything before 1800 on our 5x gad--on that side --tested a 83 yr old- 1st cuz-once removed and I match him--10 for 12 --means we prob have ca -- in yr 350 -- so am upping his test to 25) -- but would like to narrow the Wilson down to 25 vs 25 (or at least 23 of 25 ) and if a match -- initiate activity back in the British isles as we then would have some solid data to start with -- regards-- Ed Wilson

Before this e-mail gets much larger I have to throw this one out. I am in search of the parents of John Wilson b.abt. 1772 (?) d. 1821 Middleburg, Loudoun Co. Va. m. 1796 Frederick Co. MD record to Elizabeth Travers Chinn. I believe, based on the preferred naming order back then, that his father was most likely William. Elizabeths father Raleigh willed about 65 acres of land, plus a negro girl named Eliza, and household items to "my daughter, Elizabeth Wilson", and a negro woman named Judy to "my daughter Lucy Beveridge", during her lifetime after which Judy and her increase was to be sold and the money equally divided between the children of Elizabeth Wilson. At the death of Elizabeth Chinn, "my son, Samuel Chinn all the property and land I have given her during her life". (Talking about 2nd wife Elizabeth Shearman) Anyone have and Chinn, Beveridge, Travers, Tarpley in their Wilson line? Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "ED Wilson" <ed.wilson@attbi.com> To: <WILSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: [WILSON-L] Fw: Fw: three Wilsons match in the 12 marker analysis > saw your note on wilson L re marion ohio--any way you have to --run back up line to one of william-elizabeth's 9 (out 0f 11) who had children--also have your dna tested--ed wilson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ED Wilson > To: WilsonD212@aol.com > Cc: busdriver413@netzero.net ; ASheler@aol.com ; jj@losalamos.com ; SKrogh125@aol.com > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:27 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: three Wilsons match in the 12 marker analysis > > > thanks-reason urge all to up to 25 is that w/out those --refining --#'s we are dealing in maybe's -1500 plus yrs ago--and another is that even thou irish records may be hard to come by--think the scottish-english and even some irish name wilson's may be able to help if we can show -- we have a 23-25 or 25-25 match between wilson's in the states w/no connections here--as if the info i have( from a may 20-1932 tlr-have a copy-from leonard wilson u of cal )----is close to being correct--ie--from scotland--may be able to--back into a connection-( and maybe--get very lucky and have a wilson over there take a 25 marker test) --agree we need more info-tests --ed wilson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: WilsonD212@aol.com > To: ed.wilson@attbi.com > Cc: busdriver413@netzero.net ; ASheler@aol.com ; jj@losalamos.com ; SKrogh125@aol.com > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: three Wilsons match in the 12 marker analysis > > > Dear Ed, > > Thanks for your response. I've also encouraged my cousin to upgrade to the 25 marker test. > > Based on your message below, I don't see any obvious link between your Wilson line and mine, at least in America. Given the locations, there may be a better possibility of a connection to Sandy's line from Joshua Wilson in VA. > > It's interesting that all three lines indicate an origin in northern Ireland. Unfortunately, there may be little chance of proving anything there, since almost all of the pre-1900 Irish records were destroyed when the PRO was burned about 1922. > > The emigration of the three lines to America may be another issue. My John Wilson of Perry Co., OH, had to be born before 1775, based on the 1820 Perry Co. census record that shows him over 45. I suspect that bef. 1770 would be a better estimate, since the ages of his youngest children suggest a marriage about 1790. I'm about 90% certain that he is the John Wilson in Buffaloe Twp., Washington Co., PA, in the 1810 census, based on the family structure (three males under 10, two 10 to 16, one 16-26, one female each under 10, 10-16, and 16-26); this matches the Perry Co. family. The oldest daughter was likely married by 1810. However, the 1800 John Wilson family in Buffaloe Twp. doesn't match this distribution -- only one male under 10, when there should have been at least two, possibly three. > > John's father (whose given name I have yet to find), then would have had to be b. bef. 1750, making him at least contemporary with your William and Sandy's Joshua. Since my John left York Co., PA in 1782 (by one unverified source), and there's no second male over 45 in the 1810 Buffaloe Twp. family, I think it's likely that he died before 1810. There are only a few Wilson wills from before 1810 in Washington Co., and none of these seems promising. > > I haven't tried to do anything yet in York Co. Without a given name, and with a surname as common as Wilson, I don't think there much chance. I had good luck last fall with real estate records in Perry Co., so maybe I can try that approach in Washington Co. > > One of the big problems is that Washington Co., PA, has Wilson's out the wazoo -- 20 in 1790, including four John's, and 42 in 1800, including 6 John's! > > FYI, Wilson-L is the Wilson surname mailing list at RootsWeb. Here a link to where you can subscribe: > RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists: WILSON Surname > > Wilson DeCamp > Vienna, VA > > In a message dated 4/18/2003 1:13:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ed.wilson@attbi.com writes: > > > hi-this is rather unique to say the least--to hopefully reduce the margin of error--am upping my tests from 12 to 25-- on my side-- 1st-- William born in n Ireland in 1722-(1801)- came over in 1737---- William married Elizabeth Blackburn (1725-1806)-- I'm from # 2 son -- Archibald --1749-1814 -- Nancy Newman -- 2nd wife -- son William- b-1800-1862 -- wife-- Margaret Stadden--- son -- William Fletcher (1839-1909) -wife Martha Seymour-- son Edwin Blackburn -1861-1936 --wife-- Ida Mary Farmer--1866-1958 (my grandparents)-- son William Lewis--1895-1971-- wife-- Velma Grass-1902-1975-- back to Scotland --per what I have and no firm -hard doc --origin of the Wilson's > 1. from Denmark to e Scotland in the 9th century -- > 2. name evolved from -- Wilf-- Wolf in Danish --other names evolving into Wilson include Wilfson & Wylsong > 3. massacred by King Ethelred in 1002 - ones who survived-escaped-took refuge in France and returned to the British isles w/William the Conqueror in 1066 (Battle of Hastings) > 4. separated into 3 groups-branches--England-Scotland and Ireland > 5. we are from the Scottish branch--and > 6. first known? ancestor --David Wilson Sr. --b--1650 ? > 7. David Wilson Jr. --1685 ? who fled to Ulster province-northern Ireland after the Scotch rebellion of 1715--(appears if above is anywhere close--we did not do well in picking the --the right side) > 8.his son --William Wilson sr--born in Ulster province--11-16-1722 > 9. William in 1737 (age 15) along w/2 cousins -- John and William White- (later killed by Indians in (separate incidents) Randolph County now WV) ( their families--supposedly left the area and moved to Kentucky -- have nothing on them -except above and nothing back in n Ireland as William obv had a sister who married a fellow named white in n ire) left Ireland and landed in Philadelphia- > 10. next known that William was in the n end of the Shenandoah valley near--Winchester VA in 1742 > 11. William sr married Elizabeth Blackbird (in 1746 ) who was born in Ulster pro-n i- 2-2-1725 (died 9-2-1806) both buried on the family farm near Wardensville -- (now) WV > 12. several members of family moved to what is now Licking County Ohio in early 1800's-- my ggd-Fletcher-gdad Edwin and dad all born in Ohio-- gdad-family moved to Cages Bend (near Nashville) in 1895 -- he's buried in Tenn - dad to WA state-- > 13. Oh before I forget --what is Wilson-l > 14. yes 12 for 12 means we have a common ancestor -- ca-- but 50% chance in past 14 gen -- reason why went to 25 marker test > 15. am most interested in several pieces of info (I am the adm of a Grass DNA project on mom's side - we have flunked the course on anything before 1800 on our 5x gad--on that side --tested a 83 yr old- 1st cuz-once removed and I match him--10 for 12 --means we prob have ca -- in yr 350 -- so am upping his test to 25) -- but would like to narrow the Wilson down to 25 vs 25 (or at least 23 of 25 ) and if a match -- initiate activity back in the British isles as we then would have some solid data to start with -- regards-- Ed Wilson > > > > > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > Be sure and check out www.rootsweb.com > Archives of this list and other list. > >