Hello Pat, I have been trying to research a Wilson family for some time and have hit a hugh brick wall. When I saw your post, it got me to thinking that maybe the Wilson's I am looking for are connected to the Indians, and that is why I haven't been able to find them. I was also told that if a person was indian, then they were listed as "black" or "colored" in the US Census records, do you know if that is true? The Wilson's I am looking for are James H. Wilson born about 1873 and married Lafolia Conkle born about 1875. They had a daughter Lula Avery Wilson born 1903 and married Jasper A. Wilson born about 1880 (yes, her maiden name was also Wilson). As far as I can find, going by the census records, they were all born in Georgia. Do you by chance have any of the above in your list of Wilson? I'll gladly share what I have if there is a connection. Any help will be gladly appreciated. Thanks Kaye [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom and Patty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:05 PM Subject: [WILSON-L] RE: Wilson and Tillman > > Re: Thomas Wilson/ Marilyns' post listed below > > Hello Marilyn and all, > This is my first post, sorry it is so long but wanted to get out as much > as possible. > I am doing Cherokee research and I have my Wilson line back to the > mid-late 1700's. I am now as far back as I believe my Cherokee records can > take me. Marilyn mentioned a Thomas Wilson being a licensed Indian Trader. > North Carolina was part of the Original Cherokee lands prior to white > settlement. Does anyone have any information on this Thomas Wilson? I have > not done any kind of research other than Cherokee Rolls and documents and > I'm kind of lost at where to start on the white settler research. > > And yes, at least among the Cherokee, it was common for a White man to > keep two wives, one at home in the white settlments and one Cherokee wife > for when he was living among the Indians. This not only aided in his > ability to meet more Indians to trade with, it also kept him a little > safer traveling throughout the land and gave him rights as a Cherokee > citizen to hunt, trap, etc. (If he was adopted into the tribe). > > My Wilson Cherokee have carried the Wilson surname since the 1700's. This > would only happen if a Wilson man was married into the Cherokee tribe, or > if a Cherokee man took a White mans' name out of honor and friendship. > Most full-blood Cherokee did not take a surname until the Civil War and > were given their names by soldiers to keep their records straight. The > Cherokee were highly involved in the Civil War and suffered the highest > casualty rate than any state involved in the war. But that's another > story. > > My Thomas Wilson, SR was born about 1770 + or - and he married Betsy > McCrary born about 1770 + or - . They were married about 1785. They are > the parents of George W. Wilson, Sr. born about 1786. I do not know if any > of these three are of Cherokee blood, but George W.Wilson, Sr did marry > Ruth Springston, 1/2 Cherokee and dau. of William (John?) Springston, > white, and Nancy Augustus, Full-blood. Nancy was also married later to > Alexander Drumgoole, a white man. > > Thomas Wilson, Sr was also married to an unknown HICKS, probably Elizabeth > Hicks, sister to Charles Renautus Hicks, Cherokee Chief. > > I have found one Will of Elizabeth Irwin or Irvin, that list a Thomas > Wilson and Nathaniel Hicks as her son-in-laws. Mailyn listed a name close > to this, Irven/Urvin, I have also seen this name as Erwin. I do not know > if this is anything related to me. > > I believe Betsy McCrary Wilson is from the Hugh McCrary/McCreary line from > VA. I have not documented this, but I have a Hiram McCreary (documented > and also from Hughs' line) married into another line of my Cherokee > ancestors and I think the two are first cousins, by dates, location, > others in the two lines married, etc. Also, their is a Elizabeth McCrary > (Betsy?)in Hughs' line that is the right age. But I'm still working on > her. > > Is anyone on here researching this Wilson Line? Maybe before it goes into > the Cherokee Bloodline? Does anything sound familiar? Any suggestions, > recommendations, help, will be greatly appreciated. > Pat > > > > I have noticed in the past how frequently the Surnames Wilson and Tillman/ > Tilghman are found marrying. That has to mean something. > The only guess I have is back in the first quarter of the 1700s in what is > now > Brunswick Co, Va, there were a group of Indian traders living close > together > who had all been liscenced to trade with the North Carolina Indians, or at > least their in-laws had been. There was a Thomas Wilson, a Tillman, a > Pettypool (later shortened to Pool(e), a Trotter, a King, a Richard Smith, > and > Irven/Urvin. > > That is all I can remember off the top of my head. Many of these appear > to > be the same men found listed on the surveying crew for the Byrd survey > between NC and VA. > > Could these families have stuck together over the years? There also could > have been in addition to their white families, an Indian wife and children > back > with whatever Indians they traded with. (a common practice as I > understand). > > Marilyn > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from list. > e-mail to [email protected] > unsubscribe in message. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >