Ed, I'm not sure whether they have enough data points for those groupings. Most Wilson's (including me) tested are R1b. People moved around a great deal in the ancient times. Celts ranged from northern Europe to at least Iran. I notice the Chinese have been digging up mummies thousands of years old in the Chinese desert that are Celtic in appearance. Until there are more data points, freckles and red hair maybe as good an indicator as any. Mark Wilson -----Original Message----- From: edwilson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WILSON-L] History of the Wilson Family don't want to rain on the parade--but--and i prev thought the wilson's came from denmark in the 9 th century to east coast of scotland---but--the dna tests to date don't support that theory--not in my case anyway--i'am R1b--not the rating that is assigned to the nordic's---check out the wilson web site at www.familytreedna.com