Yes in your first line you said my father's mDNA comes from his mother she is my Wilson connection. With his sample already in storage maybe now I can get the money scraped together and have it tested for the Wilson mDNA. It's not the same as a YDNA but this may be the only way I can get a Wilson allele line established. Thank you :-) -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Ashford Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:09 PM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while Your father's mDNA came from his mother. Your's came from your mother. Your mother's came from her mother. Your mother's father's came from his mother, but he did not pass it on to anyone. I think is gets confusing because the surnames change. You are quite right, your father's sample is no help at all on your mother's lines. I hope this helps a little. On 01/13/2012 03:21 PM, roberta hall wrote: > Again, sorry still not clear.....the Estes sample is that of my > father's (I have not supplied a sample) what information would it > have of my mother, his wife? > You also mention both sons and daughters receive the mDNA so would > that mean that both his father (an Estes YDNA) and his mother (the > Wilson mDNA) would be in the same sample? As the granddaughter of this > pair I can see how my mDNA profile would be of my mother's side and > would not work. My father was one of 4 boys my grandparents had my > grandmother being the only direct line Wilson female in the family. > Wait I think a light bulb just went off....(mother to mother) my > grandmother born a Wilson sur-name of her father but her mother was a > Mullen so my father would have the Mullen mDNA and nothing of the > Wilson line...is that correct? Or would he indeed have the Wilson mDNA > factor given to him by his mother? > > Help > Roberta > > -----Original Message----- > From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jan Ashford > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:33 AM > To: wilson@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while > > The mDNA is mother to mother all the way back. That means that the > surname changes every generation. However both sons and daughters > receive mDNA from the mother. The son's just don't pass their's on to > their children. The daughter's do. You can use the Estes sample to > test for your mother, her mother, etc. but not for the Wilson surname > because that comes from your mom's father and she would have received > her mDNA from her mother, not her father. > > On 01/13/2012 09:39 AM, roberta hall wrote: >> It's been a while since I've had any new clues on my Wilson line. My >> father can't get his cousin to agree to the test (afraid of the gov. >> is his response). I have heard about the mDNA test but need >> clarification..My father a Estes by birth (male line) his mother was >> a Wilson..can I use the same DNA sample that was used to test his >> Estes lineage to also test his Wilson line or does that have to come >> from a female like myself who would actually be the granddaughter of >> the Wilson > line? >> As a recap..My Wilson line currently is in Boone Co., Arkansas. My >> grandmother was born in Stilwell, Ok. But this is not the home >> location of her father's (my great grandfather's) line. My great >> grandfather was actually born in Manchester, Scott County, Illinois >> as was his father. Now my Wilson line going back to my 4x's great >> grandfather or from 1839 ish >> -1900 lived on the family farm in Manchester, Scott Co., Illinois. My >> line moved to Webb City, Jasper County, Missouri around the 1890's. >> >> Prior to moving to the Manchester, Scott County, Illinois my 4 x's >> great grandfather is known to have been born in Kentucky..location >> currently unknown. I however have one clue in that his wife (lucky >> for me came from a family who has been documented in books) she was >> Keziah Tunnell, hers mother's maiden name was Money. Keziah Money >> Tunnell is said to have been born near Elizabethtown, Kentucky, her >> family settled near Murrayville, Kentucky in 1829. I'm hoping to find >> evidence that my Wilson line may have been in this same vicinity and >> is > where my 4 x's great grandparents met. >> 1839 is when the two married in Illinois and settled in Manchester, >> Illinois. >> >> So if anyone has any clues for this line of Wilson's I would love to >> hear from you, I know there are a lot of new members out there >> looking to learn where they came from..I've been around for a while >> but am > currently stuck. >> Also if someone can clarify the mDNA testing as it would pertain to >> my father's sample I would appreciate that. >> >> >> >> Roberta Estes Hall >> >> p.s. my husband's Hall line is from Switzerland Co., Indiana so it >> was fun to see that location pop up as I have been there in my past > adventures. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The catch is that the mDNA did not come from his mother's Wilson line, it came from her mother's line. It won't give you a Wilson link. On 01/13/2012 06:51 PM, roberta hall wrote: > Yes in your first line you said my father's mDNA comes from his mother she > is my Wilson connection. With his sample already in storage maybe now I can > get the money scraped together and have it tested for the Wilson mDNA. It's > not the same as a YDNA but this may be the only way I can get a Wilson > allele line established. > Thank you :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Jan Ashford > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:09 PM > To: wilson@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while > > Your father's mDNA came from his mother. Your's came from your mother. > Your mother's came from her mother. Your mother's father's came from his > mother, but he did not pass it on to anyone. I think is gets confusing > because the surnames change. You are quite right, your father's sample is > no help at all on your mother's lines. I hope this helps a little. > > > On 01/13/2012 03:21 PM, roberta hall wrote: >> Again, sorry still not clear.....the Estes sample is that of my >> father's (I have not supplied a sample) what information would it >> have of my mother, his wife? >> You also mention both sons and daughters receive the mDNA so would >> that mean that both his father (an Estes YDNA) and his mother (the >> Wilson mDNA) would be in the same sample? As the granddaughter of this >> pair I can see how my mDNA profile would be of my mother's side and >> would not work. My father was one of 4 boys my grandparents had my >> grandmother being the only direct line Wilson female in the family. >> Wait I think a light bulb just went off....(mother to mother) my >> grandmother born a Wilson sur-name of her father but her mother was a >> Mullen so my father would have the Mullen mDNA and nothing of the >> Wilson line...is that correct? Or would he indeed have the Wilson mDNA >> factor given to him by his mother? >> >> Help >> Roberta >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Jan Ashford >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:33 AM >> To: wilson@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while >> >> The mDNA is mother to mother all the way back. That means that the >> surname changes every generation. However both sons and daughters >> receive mDNA from the mother. The son's just don't pass their's on to >> their children. The daughter's do. You can use the Estes sample to >> test for your mother, her mother, etc. but not for the Wilson surname >> because that comes from your mom's father and she would have received >> her mDNA from her mother, not her father. >> >> On 01/13/2012 09:39 AM, roberta hall wrote: >>> It's been a while since I've had any new clues on my Wilson line. My >>> father can't get his cousin to agree to the test (afraid of the gov. >>> is his response). I have heard about the mDNA test but need >>> clarification..My father a Estes by birth (male line) his mother was >>> a Wilson..can I use the same DNA sample that was used to test his >>> Estes lineage to also test his Wilson line or does that have to come >>> from a female like myself who would actually be the granddaughter of >>> the Wilson >> line? >>> As a recap..My Wilson line currently is in Boone Co., Arkansas. My >>> grandmother was born in Stilwell, Ok. But this is not the home >>> location of her father's (my great grandfather's) line. My great >>> grandfather was actually born in Manchester, Scott County, Illinois >>> as was his father. Now my Wilson line going back to my 4x's great >>> grandfather or from 1839 ish >>> -1900 lived on the family farm in Manchester, Scott Co., Illinois. My >>> line moved to Webb City, Jasper County, Missouri around the 1890's. >>> >>> Prior to moving to the Manchester, Scott County, Illinois my 4 x's >>> great grandfather is known to have been born in Kentucky..location >>> currently unknown. I however have one clue in that his wife (lucky >>> for me came from a family who has been documented in books) she was >>> Keziah Tunnell, hers mother's maiden name was Money. Keziah Money >>> Tunnell is said to have been born near Elizabethtown, Kentucky, her >>> family settled near Murrayville, Kentucky in 1829. I'm hoping to find >>> evidence that my Wilson line may have been in this same vicinity and >>> is >> where my 4 x's great grandparents met. >>> 1839 is when the two married in Illinois and settled in Manchester, >>> Illinois. >>> >>> So if anyone has any clues for this line of Wilson's I would love to >>> hear from you, I know there are a lot of new members out there >>> looking to learn where they came from..I've been around for a while >>> but am >> currently stuck. >>> Also if someone can clarify the mDNA testing as it would pertain to >>> my father's sample I would appreciate that. >>> >>> >>> >>> Roberta Estes Hall >>> >>> p.s. my husband's Hall line is from Switzerland Co., Indiana so it >>> was fun to see that location pop up as I have been there in my past >> adventures. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bummer...so was hoping for that connection :-( -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Ashford Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:17 AM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while The catch is that the mDNA did not come from his mother's Wilson line, it came from her mother's line. It won't give you a Wilson link. On 01/13/2012 06:51 PM, roberta hall wrote: > Yes in your first line you said my father's mDNA comes from his mother > she is my Wilson connection. With his sample already in storage maybe > now I can get the money scraped together and have it tested for the > Wilson mDNA. It's not the same as a YDNA but this may be the only way > I can get a Wilson allele line established. > Thank you :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jan Ashford > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:09 PM > To: wilson@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while > > Your father's mDNA came from his mother. Your's came from your mother. > Your mother's came from her mother. Your mother's father's came from > his mother, but he did not pass it on to anyone. I think is gets > confusing because the surnames change. You are quite right, your > father's sample is no help at all on your mother's lines. I hope this helps a little. > > > On 01/13/2012 03:21 PM, roberta hall wrote: >> Again, sorry still not clear.....the Estes sample is that of my >> father's (I have not supplied a sample) what information would it >> have of my mother, his wife? >> You also mention both sons and daughters receive the mDNA so would >> that mean that both his father (an Estes YDNA) and his mother (the >> Wilson mDNA) would be in the same sample? As the granddaughter of >> this pair I can see how my mDNA profile would be of my mother's side >> and would not work. My father was one of 4 boys my grandparents had >> my grandmother being the only direct line Wilson female in the family. >> Wait I think a light bulb just went off....(mother to mother) my >> grandmother born a Wilson sur-name of her father but her mother was a >> Mullen so my father would have the Mullen mDNA and nothing of the >> Wilson line...is that correct? Or would he indeed have the Wilson >> mDNA factor given to him by his mother? >> >> Help >> Roberta >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Jan Ashford >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:33 AM >> To: wilson@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while >> >> The mDNA is mother to mother all the way back. That means that the >> surname changes every generation. However both sons and daughters >> receive mDNA from the mother. The son's just don't pass their's on >> to their children. The daughter's do. You can use the Estes sample >> to test for your mother, her mother, etc. but not for the Wilson >> surname because that comes from your mom's father and she would have >> received her mDNA from her mother, not her father. >> >> On 01/13/2012 09:39 AM, roberta hall wrote: >>> It's been a while since I've had any new clues on my Wilson line. My >>> father can't get his cousin to agree to the test (afraid of the gov. >>> is his response). I have heard about the mDNA test but need >>> clarification..My father a Estes by birth (male line) his mother was >>> a Wilson..can I use the same DNA sample that was used to test his >>> Estes lineage to also test his Wilson line or does that have to come >>> from a female like myself who would actually be the granddaughter of >>> the Wilson >> line? >>> As a recap..My Wilson line currently is in Boone Co., Arkansas. My >>> grandmother was born in Stilwell, Ok. But this is not the home >>> location of her father's (my great grandfather's) line. My great >>> grandfather was actually born in Manchester, Scott County, Illinois >>> as was his father. Now my Wilson line going back to my 4x's great >>> grandfather or from 1839 ish >>> -1900 lived on the family farm in Manchester, Scott Co., Illinois. >>> My line moved to Webb City, Jasper County, Missouri around the 1890's. >>> >>> Prior to moving to the Manchester, Scott County, Illinois my 4 x's >>> great grandfather is known to have been born in Kentucky..location >>> currently unknown. I however have one clue in that his wife (lucky >>> for me came from a family who has been documented in books) she was >>> Keziah Tunnell, hers mother's maiden name was Money. Keziah Money >>> Tunnell is said to have been born near Elizabethtown, Kentucky, her >>> family settled near Murrayville, Kentucky in 1829. I'm hoping to >>> find evidence that my Wilson line may have been in this same >>> vicinity and is >> where my 4 x's great grandparents met. >>> 1839 is when the two married in Illinois and settled in Manchester, >>> Illinois. >>> >>> So if anyone has any clues for this line of Wilson's I would love to >>> hear from you, I know there are a lot of new members out there >>> looking to learn where they came from..I've been around for a while >>> but am >> currently stuck. >>> Also if someone can clarify the mDNA testing as it would pertain to >>> my father's sample I would appreciate that. >>> >>> >>> >>> Roberta Estes Hall >>> >>> p.s. my husband's Hall line is from Switzerland Co., Indiana so it >>> was fun to see that location pop up as I have been there in my past >> adventures. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So, how does one go about finding out just who is who with mDNA considering all the name changes?? Linda Richards - Sent from my iPad On Jan 14, 2012, at 12:17 AM, Jan Ashford <jan@theashfords.org> wrote: > The catch is that the mDNA did not come from his mother's Wilson line, > it came from her mother's line. It won't give you a Wilson link. > > On 01/13/2012 06:51 PM, roberta hall wrote: >> Yes in your first line you said my father's mDNA comes from his mother she >> is my Wilson connection. With his sample already in storage maybe now I can >> get the money scraped together and have it tested for the Wilson mDNA. It's >> not the same as a YDNA but this may be the only way I can get a Wilson >> allele line established. >> Thank you :-) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Jan Ashford >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:09 PM >> To: wilson@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while >> >> Your father's mDNA came from his mother. Your's came from your mother. >> Your mother's came from her mother. Your mother's father's came from his >> mother, but he did not pass it on to anyone. I think is gets confusing >> because the surnames change. You are quite right, your father's sample is >> no help at all on your mother's lines. I hope this helps a little. >> >> >> On 01/13/2012 03:21 PM, roberta hall wrote: >>> Again, sorry still not clear.....the Estes sample is that of my >>> father's (I have not supplied a sample) what information would it >>> have of my mother, his wife? >>> You also mention both sons and daughters receive the mDNA so would >>> that mean that both his father (an Estes YDNA) and his mother (the >>> Wilson mDNA) would be in the same sample? As the granddaughter of this >>> pair I can see how my mDNA profile would be of my mother's side and >>> would not work. My father was one of 4 boys my grandparents had my >>> grandmother being the only direct line Wilson female in the family. >>> Wait I think a light bulb just went off....(mother to mother) my >>> grandmother born a Wilson sur-name of her father but her mother was a >>> Mullen so my father would have the Mullen mDNA and nothing of the >>> Wilson line...is that correct? Or would he indeed have the Wilson mDNA >>> factor given to him by his mother?