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    1. Re: [WILSON-L] Woodrow
    2. Rick
    3. I loved this message, the world needs more people like you. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Haines" <annerhai@adelphia.net> To: <WILSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [WILSON-L] Woodrow > To everybody: Yes, Thomas Woodrow Wilson was really a Wilson. > Second, since he had no sons, a DNA match with a descendant in Wilson's line > might be hard to find. But yes, we are all awesome, whether or not we > achieve fame. Through our WILSON lineage and the umpteen dozen other lines > that went into making each of us a distinctive human being. > Regards to all, > Anne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zeta Peterson" <zetap@prodigy.net> > To: <WILSON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 11:27 PM > Subject: [WILSON-L] Woodrow > > > > I like to think of matching Woodrow Wilson to us in our current generation > > rather than we matching > > to him. Often times I think we forget that many of us today may be just > as > > awesome as we think > > Woodrow was in his lifetime. I am sure there are some REAL dynamic > Wilsons > > alive today that would > > surpass anything that Woodrow could have done. He just happened to have a > > famous job. So > > step forward proudly and acknowledge who you are and what you have > > contributed in your lifetimes. > > > > Zeta WILSON Peterson > > > > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > > Search for wilson surname on all Rootsweb.com list. > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe fom list. > e-mail to WILSON-L-request@rootsweb.com > unsubscribe in message. >

    04/30/2003 03:33:39
    1. Re: [WILSON-L] Woodrow
    2. Anne Haines
    3. To everybody: Yes, Thomas Woodrow Wilson was really a Wilson. Second, since he had no sons, a DNA match with a descendant in Wilson's line might be hard to find. But yes, we are all awesome, whether or not we achieve fame. Through our WILSON lineage and the umpteen dozen other lines that went into making each of us a distinctive human being. Regards to all, Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zeta Peterson" <zetap@prodigy.net> To: <WILSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 11:27 PM Subject: [WILSON-L] Woodrow > I like to think of matching Woodrow Wilson to us in our current generation > rather than we matching > to him. Often times I think we forget that many of us today may be just as > awesome as we think > Woodrow was in his lifetime. I am sure there are some REAL dynamic Wilsons > alive today that would > surpass anything that Woodrow could have done. He just happened to have a > famous job. So > step forward proudly and acknowledge who you are and what you have > contributed in your lifetimes. > > Zeta WILSON Peterson > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > Search for wilson surname on all Rootsweb.com list. > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > >

    04/30/2003 02:27:18
    1. Re: [WILSON-L] DNA Project:
    2. ED Wilson
    3. no-no-no---well established re when his grandparents (james wilson and mary anne adams) came over from n ireland- when they got married-where they lived etc and re wilson's father--his name was joseph ruggles wilson b--21-28-1822-steubenville ohio--d 1-21-1903-princeton nj--married janet (jessie) woodrow-b 12-20-1826-carlisle england-married 6-7-1849 in chillicote ohio--died 4-14-1888 -clarksville tenn--pres wilson(thomas woodrow) born-12-28-1856-presbyterian manse-staunton va-d-2-3-1924--wa dc-his youngset brother-joseph ruggles wilson jr-7-20-1867-2-26-1927 married a kate francis wilson in 1892-i have no further info on this kate wilson- my source--wilson foundation-staunton va-from the descendants of the presidents by whitney tucker-ph d. 1975--AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL FAMILIES -ed wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Wilson" <cwilson1@networksplus.net> To: <WILSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [WILSON-L] DNA Project: > Hi, guys --- > I seem to remember reading that Woodrow Wilson was not born a Wilson. The > details escape me now, but goes something like this: When a young > lad,something happened to his parents and he went to live with a "Wilson" > family. He received such good care & liked them so well, he took their > surname, becoming Thomas Woodrow Wilson. Believe I found it through Google: > president +biography +woodrow +wilson --- or some combination thereof. If it > works, let us know. I may try as well. > > colleen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Col. Carlis B. Wilson" <myboards@yahoo.com> > To: <WILSON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 11:06 AM > Subject: Re: [WILSON-L] DNA Project: > > > > ED, How does one find or procure a record of one DNA, take President > Woodrow Wilson for example? If I wished to prove my connection to a thought > to be relative. Not that I am a relative to the Mr. President Woodrow > Wilson, at least I am now aware of it if so. Just wondering how one could > get the records? Carlis > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > > List owner > > WILSON-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe fom list. > e-mail to WILSON-L-request@rootsweb.com > unsubscribe in message. >

    04/29/2003 05:11:36
    1. [WILSON-L] Woodrow
    2. Zeta Peterson
    3. I like to think of matching Woodrow Wilson to us in our current generation rather than we matching to him. Often times I think we forget that many of us today may be just as awesome as we think Woodrow was in his lifetime. I am sure there are some REAL dynamic Wilsons alive today that would surpass anything that Woodrow could have done. He just happened to have a famous job. So step forward proudly and acknowledge who you are and what you have contributed in your lifetimes. Zeta WILSON Peterson

    04/29/2003 02:27:45
    1. Re: [WILSON-L] DNA Project:
    2. Colleen Wilson
    3. Hi, guys --- I seem to remember reading that Woodrow Wilson was not born a Wilson. The details escape me now, but goes something like this: When a young lad,something happened to his parents and he went to live with a "Wilson" family. He received such good care & liked them so well, he took their surname, becoming Thomas Woodrow Wilson. Believe I found it through Google: president +biography +woodrow +wilson --- or some combination thereof. If it works, let us know. I may try as well. colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Col. Carlis B. Wilson" <myboards@yahoo.com> To: <WILSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [WILSON-L] DNA Project: > ED, How does one find or procure a record of one DNA, take President Woodrow Wilson for example? If I wished to prove my connection to a thought to be relative. Not that I am a relative to the Mr. President Woodrow Wilson, at least I am now aware of it if so. Just wondering how one could get the records? Carlis > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > List owner > WILSON-admin@rootsweb.com > >

    04/29/2003 02:04:08
    1. Re: [WILSON-L] DNA Project:
    2. ED Wilson
    3. would suggest--go to woodrow wilson foundation in virginia--get family history--ie--he had siblings--eg-- as i remember his youngest brother married a wilson--(did not research to determine if related-)see if any male desc from his family exist and would be willing to take a dna test--then correlate--as think his family coming --over --from n ireland in 1807-now they may allready have his families dna on file---ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Col. Carlis B. Wilson" <myboards@yahoo.com> To: <WILSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [WILSON-L] DNA Project: > ED, How does one find or procure a record of one DNA, take President Woodrow Wilson for example? If I wished to prove my connection to a thought to be relative. Not that I am a relative to the Mr. President Woodrow Wilson, at least I am now aware of it if so. Just wondering how one could get the records? Carlis > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > List owner > WILSON-admin@rootsweb.com > >

    04/29/2003 06:04:20
    1. Re: [WILSON-L] Re: DNA Unquilified match
    2. Tom & Pat McDevitt
    3. I must have missed out on this one. Why would you want to do a DNA match after all the people are gone? How would you do a DNA match when they are all dead anyway. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "gosnell" <gosnell@wnonline.net> To: <WILSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 6:15 PM Subject: [WILSON-L] Re: DNA Unquilified match > Ed & others: An Unqulified match is where > you match someone with a different surname. > > On the Cooper DNA list: there have been > Three Coopers who match three have > matched three other people with a surname > other than Cooper. > > Harold Gosnell > p.s. I'm looking for a Wilson who matches > someone with the Lunsford/Lanksford etc > surname. >

    04/29/2003 04:55:11
    1. [WILSON-L] Re: DNA match
    2. gosnell
    3. Pat and all: You don't match dead people, you match living people who decend from those dead people. That way you find new Cousin's and exchange informaiton. They might have some information that you don't and you might have some that they don't have. Harold Gosnell

    04/29/2003 04:10:53
    1. Re: [WILSON-L] DNA Project:
    2. Col. Carlis B. Wilson
    3. ED, How does one find or procure a record of one DNA, take President Woodrow Wilson for example? If I wished to prove my connection to a thought to be relative. Not that I am a relative to the Mr. President Woodrow Wilson, at least I am now aware of it if so. Just wondering how one could get the records? Carlis --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

    04/29/2003 03:06:58
    1. Re: [WILSON-L] DNA Project:
    2. ED Wilson
    3. not sure what you mean by--unqualified matches--as i match 27 people 12 for 12 on/in the family tree dna wilson project-now think only 2 are from that project-balance ?-- and and to best of my knowledge related to none-essentially--part of europe our ancestors way--back when came from--did not see your name as a 12-12 match to me--also when get common 12-12--no known connection--they recommend upping to 25 marker test--my ecd--6-1-3--should narrow dwn matches--ed wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "gosnell" <gosnell@wnonline.net> To: <WILSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 2:38 PM Subject: [WILSON-L] DNA Project: > I understand from other list; that > some are getting "unqulified > matches" that is that they match > someone with a different surname: > > Question: Has anyone who has done > the DNA test been told that they > match a "Lunsford/Lansford etc., ? > > My Grandmother was a Wilson, but > was told that her father changed his > name from Lunsford to Wilson. > > Harold Gosnell > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > Search for wilson surname on all Rootsweb.com list. > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > >

    04/28/2003 04:37:20
    1. [WILSON-L] Re: DNA Unquilified match
    2. gosnell
    3. Ed & others: An Unqulified match is where you match someone with a different surname. On the Cooper DNA list: there have been Three Coopers who match three have matched three other people with a surname other than Cooper. Harold Gosnell p.s. I'm looking for a Wilson who matches someone with the Lunsford/Lanksford etc surname.

    04/28/2003 04:15:27
    1. [WILSON-L] DNA Project:
    2. gosnell
    3. I understand from other list; that some are getting "unqulified matches" that is that they match someone with a different surname: Question: Has anyone who has done the DNA test been told that they match a "Lunsford/Lansford etc., ? My Grandmother was a Wilson, but was told that her father changed his name from Lunsford to Wilson. Harold Gosnell

    04/28/2003 01:38:34
    1. [WILSON-L] Willis WILSON + Eula STEWART in Caddo Co. OK 1910
    2. Finally found Willis WILSON and wife Eula (STEWART) in the 1910 Oklahoma Caddo County Banner township census as follows. The daughters eventually married JONES, WOOLF, HICKS, CALDER, MILK, and BREWINGTON respectively from oldest to youngest. Mr. Wilson was b. 1872 in Harrisonville, Cass Co., MO. Wife Eula (STEWART) WILSON was b. 1874 in maybe Whitewright, Grayson Co., TX. Eldest dau Pearl (WILSON) JONES was b. 1894 and was my dad's half-brother's grandmother. Both Willis and Eula are buried in Carnegie Cem. in Caddo Co., OK. Does anybody connect to this family and know the parents of Willis and/or Eula? Interested in exchanging info. #47 WILSON Willie H M W 36 MO MO MO Eula H. W F W 34 TX OH TN Pearl D F W 16 TX MO TX Edith D F W 14 TX MO TX Clethis D F W 10 TX MO TX Zelma D F W 6 TX MO TX Josie D F W 4 OK MO TX Myrtle D F W 4/12 OK MO TX Many thanks, Jayne in Texas

    04/26/2003 07:40:57
    1. Re: RE: [WILSON-L] Highland County, Va. Wilsons
    2. Thank you so much. This is great information Pat Killian > > From: "Tim" <timanddawn@cavtel.net> > Date: 2003/04/26 Sat PM 04:33:47 EDT > To: WILSON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [WILSON-L] Highland County, Va. Wilsons > > For General Info: Enjoy > > Source: Harris Family Bible Records: 1758-1833 > Location: Library of Virginia > > Marriages: > > Groom: Bride: Marriage Date: > > Givanin Harris Margaret Wilson Sept 14, 1826 > > Source: Family Records From Bible of Samuel Wilson Rockbridge Co. > (1750-1826) > > Marriages: > > Groom: Bride: Marriage Date: > Samuel Wilson Mary Maccy Nov 10, 1779 > William Withrow Elizabeth Wilson Jan 19, 1802 > Richard Davis Polly Wilson Aug 9, 1803 > John Wilson Sarah Moore Jan 5, > 1809 > Thomas Wilson Peggy Caruthers Jan 10, 1811 > John Templeton Sarah Wilson Oct 28, 1813 > > Births: Date: > > Samuel Wilson(a) April 16, 1760 > Elizabeth Wilson Oct 10, 1780 > John Wilson April 22, 1783 > Polly Wilson March 4, 1786 > Thomas Wilson Dec 21, 1788 > William Wilson Nov 21, 1792 > Sarah Wilson July 13, 1795 > Jane Wilson Nov 30, 1799 > Samuel Wilson(b) June 11, 1803 > James Wilson Aug 7, 1807 > Elizabeth Davis Oct 24, 1804 > Samuel W. Davis Jan 17, 1807 > > Deaths: Date: > > Mary (Maccy) Wilson July 23, 1819 > William Withrow March 25, 1818 > William Wilson Jan 3, 1814 > Samuel Wilson(b) May 5, 1826 > James Wilson Aug 13, 1807 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pkcb113@bellsouth.net [mailto:pkcb113@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:01 AM > To: WILSON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WILSON-L] Highland County, Va. Wilsons > > > Well I'm still searching!! Still looking for a DNA donor no luck yet!! > > I found a clue I haven't seen before, which by the way was in front of > my face. The 1880 census Stonewall, Highland County, Va. shows a Mary > D. Johns mother 84 living with my John L. Wilson and Barbara Ervin > Wilson. Barbara's mother's name was Deborah Davis Ervin. I have been > thinking this was a typing error or another census taker writing blob, > since Jones was married in the family in 1870. When I evaluated the time > the Jones came into the picture the age didn't match. And of course in > the immediate area was lots of Wilsons. > > Does anyone have any Johns in their lines? Steve I know your line is > from this area, Have you run across this in your studies of Wilsons? > I've got to go to the library now to find more on the Johns marriage, if > possible like when. There was a Polly, a seamstress, age 51 next door > to my John Wilson, a blacksmith and could easily have been his mother. > I've seen Mary Polly as names more often than any other combination. > > > > Pat Killian > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > List owner > WILSON-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > List owner > WILSON-admin@rootsweb.com > >

    04/26/2003 12:20:43
    1. RE: [WILSON-L] Highland County, Va. Wilsons
    2. Tim
    3. For General Info: Enjoy Source: Harris Family Bible Records: 1758-1833 Location: Library of Virginia Marriages: Groom: Bride: Marriage Date: Givanin Harris Margaret Wilson Sept 14, 1826 Source: Family Records From Bible of Samuel Wilson Rockbridge Co. (1750-1826) Marriages: Groom: Bride: Marriage Date: Samuel Wilson Mary Maccy Nov 10, 1779 William Withrow Elizabeth Wilson Jan 19, 1802 Richard Davis Polly Wilson Aug 9, 1803 John Wilson Sarah Moore Jan 5, 1809 Thomas Wilson Peggy Caruthers Jan 10, 1811 John Templeton Sarah Wilson Oct 28, 1813 Births: Date: Samuel Wilson(a) April 16, 1760 Elizabeth Wilson Oct 10, 1780 John Wilson April 22, 1783 Polly Wilson March 4, 1786 Thomas Wilson Dec 21, 1788 William Wilson Nov 21, 1792 Sarah Wilson July 13, 1795 Jane Wilson Nov 30, 1799 Samuel Wilson(b) June 11, 1803 James Wilson Aug 7, 1807 Elizabeth Davis Oct 24, 1804 Samuel W. Davis Jan 17, 1807 Deaths: Date: Mary (Maccy) Wilson July 23, 1819 William Withrow March 25, 1818 William Wilson Jan 3, 1814 Samuel Wilson(b) May 5, 1826 James Wilson Aug 13, 1807 -----Original Message----- From: pkcb113@bellsouth.net [mailto:pkcb113@bellsouth.net] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:01 AM To: WILSON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WILSON-L] Highland County, Va. Wilsons Well I'm still searching!! Still looking for a DNA donor no luck yet!! I found a clue I haven't seen before, which by the way was in front of my face. The 1880 census Stonewall, Highland County, Va. shows a Mary D. Johns mother 84 living with my John L. Wilson and Barbara Ervin Wilson. Barbara's mother's name was Deborah Davis Ervin. I have been thinking this was a typing error or another census taker writing blob, since Jones was married in the family in 1870. When I evaluated the time the Jones came into the picture the age didn't match. And of course in the immediate area was lots of Wilsons. Does anyone have any Johns in their lines? Steve I know your line is from this area, Have you run across this in your studies of Wilsons? I've got to go to the library now to find more on the Johns marriage, if possible like when. There was a Polly, a seamstress, age 51 next door to my John Wilson, a blacksmith and could easily have been his mother. I've seen Mary Polly as names more often than any other combination. Pat Killian ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== List owner WILSON-admin@rootsweb.com

    04/26/2003 10:33:47
    1. [WILSON-L] Highland County, Va. Wilsons
    2. Well I'm still searching!! Still looking for a DNA donor no luck yet!! I found a clue I haven't seen before, which by the way was in front of my face. The 1880 census Stonewall, Highland County, Va. shows a Mary D. Johns mother 84 living with my John L. Wilson and Barbara Ervin Wilson. Barbara's mother's name was Deborah Davis Ervin. I have been thinking this was a typing error or another census taker writing blob, since Jones was married in the family in 1870. When I evaluated the time the Jones came into the picture the age didn't match. And of course in the immediate area was lots of Wilsons. Does anyone have any Johns in their lines? Steve I know your line is from this area, Have you run across this in your studies of Wilsons? I've got to go to the library now to find more on the Johns marriage, if possible like when. There was a Polly, a seamstress, age 51 next door to my John Wilson, a blacksmith and could easily have been his mother. I've seen Mary Polly as names more often than any other combination. Pat Killian

    04/26/2003 04:01:19
    1. [WILSON-L] Katherine Wilson, Bklyn, NY
    2. Vince
    3. I am looking for any information on a Katherine/Katie WILSON, born about 1866, in NY City. She married her Fist Husband, George GAMMON, about 1885. She re-married between 1892-1902, after George's death to a Henry (Heinrich) BLOOM.

    04/25/2003 05:56:12
    1. [WILSON-L] Samuel WILSON
    2. I am looking for information on the families of Samuel WILSON b. 1754; d. 1832 in Bloomfield, CT. He was s/o Joel WILSON & Agigail LOOMIS. Samuel WILSON married Roxy COOK, the widow of Joel COOK, Jr. Does anyone know what the surname of Rosy was before marrying Joel COOK. It is believed that Samuel may have died a pauper. Does anyone have any information of these families? Roger

    04/24/2003 03:18:23
    1. [WILSON-L] BUNTING WILSON, Ossett, Yorkshire, England
    2. Christene Kello
    3. Hello list, Trying to track down information on my gggrandfather Bunting WILSON b 27/06/1858 Ossett, Yorkshire, England. Mr Steve WILSON from Bramham, Wetherby, West Yorkshire has left messages on Cousinconnect and Ballarat Genealogy however, all of my emails to him have been returned if he reads this I would be very happy to talk to him or anyone that may be related. Bunting's parents names were James WILSON b 16/03/1821 Ossett, Yorkshire and Ann MEGSON b 28/03/1819 England they married 25/07/1841 Yorkshire. All children were born in Ossett, Yorkshire - Ellis (F)b11/02/1844, Albert (M)b 24/12/1845 d 04/02/1896, Arthur (M)06/07/1848, Sarah (F) 23/07/1850, Ann (F)11/05/1852 d 14/12/1909, James (M)b 06/03/1854 d 09/12/1939, Mary (F)b 09/03/1856, Bunting (M), Emma (F)b 08/07/1861. Bunting arrived in Victoria, Australia in 1877 aged 18 aboard the "Hankow" and worked at the Doveton Woollen Mill in Victoria for his brother Albert. Bunting married and moved from Ballarat to Hillgrove N.S.W. Australia. Bunting and his wife Mary Jane CROWTHER had 13 children (7 died) those that lived were John Albert Carl b1879, Evaline Mary b1882, Emma Gordon b1885, Arthur Henry b1887, Gladys Naomi b1894,(my ggrandmother) Elsie b1897 Albert arrived in Australia in 1873 on the ship "Calcutta". Albert married three times, his first two wives died - one in Yorkshire before he arrived in Australia in 1873 and one in Australia during childbirth (Ada Jane) in 1874. Albert than married his first cousin Adeline WILSON in 1877. He was a wollen cloth manufacturer in Ballarat and possibly later in Geelong. They had six children, but four died in infancy. I live in Brisbane Queensland Australia and I'm sorry this is so long. Christene

    04/24/2003 12:28:34
    1. Re: [WILSON-L] William Wilson
    2. Janean Ray
    3. Before this e-mail gets much larger I have to throw this one out. I am in search of the parents of John Wilson b.abt. 1772 (?) d. 1821 Middleburg, Loudoun Co. Va. m. 1796 Frederick Co. MD record to Elizabeth Travers Chinn. I believe, based on the preferred naming order back then, that his father was most likely William. Elizabeths father Raleigh willed about 65 acres of land, plus a negro girl named Eliza, and household items to "my daughter, Elizabeth Wilson", and a negro woman named Judy to "my daughter Lucy Beveridge", during her lifetime after which Judy and her increase was to be sold and the money equally divided between the children of Elizabeth Wilson. At the death of Elizabeth Chinn, "my son, Samuel Chinn all the property and land I have given her during her life". (Talking about 2nd wife Elizabeth Shearman) Anyone have and Chinn, Beveridge, Travers, Tarpley in their Wilson line? Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "ED Wilson" <ed.wilson@attbi.com> To: <WILSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: [WILSON-L] Fw: Fw: three Wilsons match in the 12 marker analysis > saw your note on wilson L re marion ohio--any way you have to --run back up line to one of william-elizabeth's 9 (out 0f 11) who had children--also have your dna tested--ed wilson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ED Wilson > To: WilsonD212@aol.com > Cc: busdriver413@netzero.net ; ASheler@aol.com ; jj@losalamos.com ; SKrogh125@aol.com > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:27 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: three Wilsons match in the 12 marker analysis > > > thanks-reason urge all to up to 25 is that w/out those --refining --#'s we are dealing in maybe's -1500 plus yrs ago--and another is that even thou irish records may be hard to come by--think the scottish-english and even some irish name wilson's may be able to help if we can show -- we have a 23-25 or 25-25 match between wilson's in the states w/no connections here--as if the info i have( from a may 20-1932 tlr-have a copy-from leonard wilson u of cal )----is close to being correct--ie--from scotland--may be able to--back into a connection-( and maybe--get very lucky and have a wilson over there take a 25 marker test) --agree we need more info-tests --ed wilson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: WilsonD212@aol.com > To: ed.wilson@attbi.com > Cc: busdriver413@netzero.net ; ASheler@aol.com ; jj@losalamos.com ; SKrogh125@aol.com > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: three Wilsons match in the 12 marker analysis > > > Dear Ed, > > Thanks for your response. I've also encouraged my cousin to upgrade to the 25 marker test. > > Based on your message below, I don't see any obvious link between your Wilson line and mine, at least in America. Given the locations, there may be a better possibility of a connection to Sandy's line from Joshua Wilson in VA. > > It's interesting that all three lines indicate an origin in northern Ireland. Unfortunately, there may be little chance of proving anything there, since almost all of the pre-1900 Irish records were destroyed when the PRO was burned about 1922. > > The emigration of the three lines to America may be another issue. My John Wilson of Perry Co., OH, had to be born before 1775, based on the 1820 Perry Co. census record that shows him over 45. I suspect that bef. 1770 would be a better estimate, since the ages of his youngest children suggest a marriage about 1790. I'm about 90% certain that he is the John Wilson in Buffaloe Twp., Washington Co., PA, in the 1810 census, based on the family structure (three males under 10, two 10 to 16, one 16-26, one female each under 10, 10-16, and 16-26); this matches the Perry Co. family. The oldest daughter was likely married by 1810. However, the 1800 John Wilson family in Buffaloe Twp. doesn't match this distribution -- only one male under 10, when there should have been at least two, possibly three. > > John's father (whose given name I have yet to find), then would have had to be b. bef. 1750, making him at least contemporary with your William and Sandy's Joshua. Since my John left York Co., PA in 1782 (by one unverified source), and there's no second male over 45 in the 1810 Buffaloe Twp. family, I think it's likely that he died before 1810. There are only a few Wilson wills from before 1810 in Washington Co., and none of these seems promising. > > I haven't tried to do anything yet in York Co. Without a given name, and with a surname as common as Wilson, I don't think there much chance. I had good luck last fall with real estate records in Perry Co., so maybe I can try that approach in Washington Co. > > One of the big problems is that Washington Co., PA, has Wilson's out the wazoo -- 20 in 1790, including four John's, and 42 in 1800, including 6 John's! > > FYI, Wilson-L is the Wilson surname mailing list at RootsWeb. Here a link to where you can subscribe: > RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists: WILSON Surname > > Wilson DeCamp > Vienna, VA > > In a message dated 4/18/2003 1:13:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ed.wilson@attbi.com writes: > > > hi-this is rather unique to say the least--to hopefully reduce the margin of error--am upping my tests from 12 to 25-- on my side-- 1st-- William born in n Ireland in 1722-(1801)- came over in 1737---- William married Elizabeth Blackburn (1725-1806)-- I'm from # 2 son -- Archibald --1749-1814 -- Nancy Newman -- 2nd wife -- son William- b-1800-1862 -- wife-- Margaret Stadden--- son -- William Fletcher (1839-1909) -wife Martha Seymour-- son Edwin Blackburn -1861-1936 --wife-- Ida Mary Farmer--1866-1958 (my grandparents)-- son William Lewis--1895-1971-- wife-- Velma Grass-1902-1975-- back to Scotland --per what I have and no firm -hard doc --origin of the Wilson's > 1. from Denmark to e Scotland in the 9th century -- > 2. name evolved from -- Wilf-- Wolf in Danish --other names evolving into Wilson include Wilfson & Wylsong > 3. massacred by King Ethelred in 1002 - ones who survived-escaped-took refuge in France and returned to the British isles w/William the Conqueror in 1066 (Battle of Hastings) > 4. separated into 3 groups-branches--England-Scotland and Ireland > 5. we are from the Scottish branch--and > 6. first known? ancestor --David Wilson Sr. --b--1650 ? > 7. David Wilson Jr. --1685 ? who fled to Ulster province-northern Ireland after the Scotch rebellion of 1715--(appears if above is anywhere close--we did not do well in picking the --the right side) > 8.his son --William Wilson sr--born in Ulster province--11-16-1722 > 9. William in 1737 (age 15) along w/2 cousins -- John and William White- (later killed by Indians in (separate incidents) Randolph County now WV) ( their families--supposedly left the area and moved to Kentucky -- have nothing on them -except above and nothing back in n Ireland as William obv had a sister who married a fellow named white in n ire) left Ireland and landed in Philadelphia- > 10. next known that William was in the n end of the Shenandoah valley near--Winchester VA in 1742 > 11. William sr married Elizabeth Blackbird (in 1746 ) who was born in Ulster pro-n i- 2-2-1725 (died 9-2-1806) both buried on the family farm near Wardensville -- (now) WV > 12. several members of family moved to what is now Licking County Ohio in early 1800's-- my ggd-Fletcher-gdad Edwin and dad all born in Ohio-- gdad-family moved to Cages Bend (near Nashville) in 1895 -- he's buried in Tenn - dad to WA state-- > 13. Oh before I forget --what is Wilson-l > 14. yes 12 for 12 means we have a common ancestor -- ca-- but 50% chance in past 14 gen -- reason why went to 25 marker test > 15. am most interested in several pieces of info (I am the adm of a Grass DNA project on mom's side - we have flunked the course on anything before 1800 on our 5x gad--on that side --tested a 83 yr old- 1st cuz-once removed and I match him--10 for 12 --means we prob have ca -- in yr 350 -- so am upping his test to 25) -- but would like to narrow the Wilson down to 25 vs 25 (or at least 23 of 25 ) and if a match -- initiate activity back in the British isles as we then would have some solid data to start with -- regards-- Ed Wilson > > > > > > > ==== WILSON Mailing List ==== > Be sure and check out www.rootsweb.com > Archives of this list and other list. > >

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