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    1. [WILSON] George W Wilson Bourbon Kentucky
    2. Mike Wilson
    3. This was my gggrandfather b 1806 married Elizabeth Mock. Is this part of anyone's family. Mike

    01/13/2012 01:57:57
    1. [WILSON] jeremiah wilson
    2. Cjones05695
    3. LaVera Jones cjones05695@aol..com Has any one took a dan test for jeremiah wilsin sr. AS i don't have a wilson that could take the test for me. he is my 4 grate grand father. and his son jeremiah wilson jr. then samuel c. wilson. harddy wilson, thomas jefferson wilson is my gaand father and my dad was kelly rosevilty (TED) WILSON . I would like to know if any one else has taking one.

    01/13/2012 01:39:52
    1. Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's
    2. Wilson, Gregg
    3. Betty, It is funny that you say that. We were just recently speculating the same thing. Common names in this area of Warrick County include Wilson, Hopper, Bullock, Reed and Madden and it seems that all originated in Russell County and ended up in Indiana in the mid 1800's. I have relatives with all these names, and we've wondered if they knew each other in Russell County before arriving in Indiana. Gregg Sent from IPhone On Jan 13, 2012, at 1:56 PM, "bettyputnam" <bwadeputnam@fairpoint.net> wrote: > Hi Gregg & Jan, > > Gregg, it would not surprise me one bit if we're related on several > different lines. A cousin did some genealogy many years ago and her > observation was, "if your surnames were Wilson, Hopper, Wade, Hart, Judd, or > a number of other names, you were related to everyone in Russell County." I > certainly believe it. > > Jan, I'm just getting into your Wilson info and will let you know what I > find. I know I'm going to need some dates to follow through with all this > info. I'll get back to you. > > Betty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wilson, Gregg" <gw3@evansville.edu> > To: <wilson@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:49 AM > Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's > > >> Hi Jan & Betty, >> >> There is a web site called Find A Grave.com that is very useful. If you >> search for Wilson's in Russell and Pulaski Counties in Kentucky, there are >> listings for over 400 Wilsons buried in those two counties alone, with >> many of the dates from the 1800's. It seems that in terms of migration >> patterns, as settlers in Virginia moved west, that was more or less a >> route that many took. So, I would think that the chances are pretty >> favorable that more than one line of Wilson's travelled through this >> region. >> >> Something that Betty has really helped me to understand is how counties >> have changed boundaries over time. Depending on what time frame one is >> looking, Russell County in KY could be one name or another as lines were >> re-drawn (in fact, Kentucky was carved out of Virginia, so a particular >> area of KY may have actually been a Virginian county, again depending on >> the time frame). Betty is a great historian of these counties and how >> they evolved. >> >> Betty, there are Hoppers in my line as well. It seems that one group of >> Hoppers also moved into Warrick County, and married with the Wilsons. It >> would be interesting to see if this is the same family. We may be related >> in more ways than one! :) >> >> Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM >> Professor & Chair >> Department of Exercise and Sport Science >> Graves Hall >> University of Evansville >> Evansville, IN 47720 >> Tel: (812) 488-2847 >> Fax: (812) 488-2087 >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2012 01:38:36
    1. Re: [WILSON] maternal DNA
    2. Linda Miller Wilson
    3. Thank you. The study of DNA is the wave of the future in genealogy as far as I am concerned..at least for men! I love the paper trail and will never give it up, but DNA studies uncover so many things that the paper trail does not reveal. It has provided two wonderful connections for my family that we would have been able to find had it not been for this science. I have a third DNA study that has not had one single perfect match in over five years. There have been two partial matches which gives us a clue, but I am waiting for thrill of the day when we get that exact hit...maybe with a mutation or two. On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Donna Mariner <oldsalty99@att.net> wrote: > Linda - beautifully written. Too many of us have thought that these DNA > tests > advertised will help us locate some of our more immediate ancestors...and > that's > not the way it works, as you explained so well. Also, most of us tend to > believe that ALL of our ancestors had white skin and blue eyes...and that > our > great grandmother told the truth when she said that the child that was born > after only 7 months of marriage was truly the biological child of the man > she > married. Again, a beautiful assumption, but that's not the way it always > works. > We truly are a mix of many, many "mothers" sifted down thru time. Our > ancestry > search can only lead us a few hundred years back, then it becomes a lot of > "guesswork", a lot of "assuming". Who are we to say who actually mated to > become our parents 1000 years ago? We are fortunate to obtain "proof" (?) > of > our lineage for more than two generations. DNA is really the ONLY proof. > That > is why many of us trace our lineage even though we know, or have > suspicions, > that our true parentage may never be known. It's fascinating to "DO" > genealogy....of anyone's ancestors! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Linda Miller Wilson <lindamiller.wilson129@gmail.com> > To: wilson@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, January 13, 2012 5:59:07 PM > Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while > > One problem with mtDNA....maternal DNA...is that it doesn't help much with > genealogy. I had mine done, and I discovered that my earliest female > ancestor lived in Syria 5000 years ago. While I have had a few people > contact me, there have been no connections as we could be kin thousands of > years ago. There is a book entitled* The Seven Daughters of Eve* which is > very interesting as it explains the seven divisions in which mtDNA is > categorized. My purpose in taking the test was to determine if I had > Native American heritage which I did not....at least not from the data that > ftDNA has. I also took 23andme and did not discover Native American > ancestry there either. The test did give me a long list of diseases to > which I might be genetically predisposed. I am the kind of person who > doesn't get bent out of shape about this kind of info, but it could be > upsetting to some. Also, the report that I was NOT predisposed to breast > cancer and the fact that not only I have had it but my mother and paternal > aunt as well, served to make me doubt the results. I was flooded with > emails from people with whom I matched, but the process of figuring out how > and reading the dna results were overwhelming. I turned my results over to > a surname researcher of one of my family names and haven't heard a word > since. If I had to do it over, I would not have done 23andme. The outfit > also charges nine dollars a month to monitor my matches. While I have read > that there have been amazing matches with 23andme, it did not work for me. > It was more technical than I was willing to deal with...might work for > others. > > The info presented here might be old, and there might be upgrades or > discoveries of which I am not aware...just my experience. Overall, I was > fascinated that a female born in Syria had a daughter who had a daughter > who had a daughter...so forth..until I was born, another daughter, and we > all had the same mtDNA. I do not have a daughter, but my female line is > not dead for the fact that my first cousin has a daughter who has a > daughter...so the line lives. Because our mothers were sisters, they had > the same mtDNA as our grandmother and her mother and her mother.......Linda > Wilson > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Jan Ashford <jan@theashfords.org> wrote: > > > Your father's mDNA came from his mother. Your's came from your mother. > > Your mother's came from her mother. Your mother's father's came from > > his mother, but he did not pass it on to anyone. I think is gets > > confusing because the surnames change. You are quite right, your > > father's sample is no help at all on your mother's lines. I hope this > > helps a little. > > > > > > On 01/13/2012 03:21 PM, roberta hall wrote: > > > Again, sorry still not clear.....the Estes sample is that of my > father's > > (I > > > have not supplied a sample) what information would it have of my > mother, > > > his wife? > > > You also mention both sons and daughters receive the mDNA so would that > > mean > > > that both his father (an Estes YDNA) and his mother (the Wilson mDNA) > > would > > > be in the same sample? As the granddaughter of this pair I can see how > my > > > mDNA profile would be of my mother's side and would not work. My father > > was > > > one of 4 boys my grandparents had my grandmother being the only direct > > line > > > Wilson female in the family. > > > Wait I think a light bulb just went off....(mother to mother) my > > grandmother > > > born a Wilson sur-name of her father but her mother was a Mullen so my > > > father would have the Mullen mDNA and nothing of the Wilson line...is > > that > > > correct? Or would he indeed have the Wilson mDNA factor given to him by > > his > > > mother? > > > > > > Help > > > Roberta > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On > > > Behalf Of Jan Ashford > > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:33 AM > > > To: wilson@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while > > > > > > The mDNA is mother to mother all the way back. That means that the > > surname > > > changes every generation. However both sons and daughters receive mDNA > > from > > > the mother. The son's just don't pass their's on to their children. > The > > > daughter's do. You can use the Estes sample to test for your mother, > her > > > mother, etc. but not for the Wilson surname because that comes from > your > > > mom's father and she would have received her mDNA from her mother, not > > her > > > father. > > > > > > On 01/13/2012 09:39 AM, roberta hall wrote: > > >> It's been a while since I've had any new clues on my Wilson line. My > > >> father can't get his cousin to agree to the test (afraid of the gov. > > >> is his response). I have heard about the mDNA test but need > > >> clarification..My father a Estes by birth (male line) his mother was a > > >> Wilson..can I use the same DNA sample that was used to test his Estes > > >> lineage to also test his Wilson line or does that have to come from a > > >> female like myself who would actually be the granddaughter of the > Wilson > > > line? > > >> As a recap..My Wilson line currently is in Boone Co., Arkansas. My > > >> grandmother was born in Stilwell, Ok. But this is not the home > > >> location of her father's (my great grandfather's) line. My great > > >> grandfather was actually born in Manchester, Scott County, Illinois as > > >> was his father. Now my Wilson line going back to my 4x's great > > >> grandfather or from 1839 ish > > >> -1900 lived on the family farm in Manchester, Scott Co., Illinois. My > > >> line moved to Webb City, Jasper County, Missouri around the 1890's. > > >> > > >> Prior to moving to the Manchester, Scott County, Illinois my 4 x's > > >> great grandfather is known to have been born in Kentucky..location > > >> currently unknown. I however have one clue in that his wife (lucky for > > >> me came from a family who has been documented in books) she was Keziah > > >> Tunnell, hers mother's maiden name was Money. Keziah Money Tunnell is > > >> said to have been born near Elizabethtown, Kentucky, her family > > >> settled near Murrayville, Kentucky in 1829. I'm hoping to find > > >> evidence that my Wilson line may have been in this same vicinity and > is > > > where my 4 x's great grandparents met. > > >> 1839 is when the two married in Illinois and settled in Manchester, > > >> Illinois. > > >> > > >> So if anyone has any clues for this line of Wilson's I would love to > > >> hear from you, I know there are a lot of new members out there looking > > >> to learn where they came from..I've been around for a while but am > > > currently stuck. > > >> Also if someone can clarify the mDNA testing as it would pertain to my > > >> father's sample I would appreciate that. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Roberta Estes Hall > > >> > > >> p.s. my husband's Hall line is from Switzerland Co., Indiana so it was > > >> fun to see that location pop up as I have been there in my past > > > adventures. > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Linda Miller Wilson > P. O. Box 129 > Pettigrew, AR 72752 > > 479-677-2681 > > ** > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Linda Miller Wilson P. O. Box 129 Pettigrew, AR 72752 479-677-2681 **

    01/13/2012 01:03:44
    1. Re: [WILSON] DNA
    2. Wilson, Gregg
    3. Hi Bob, My father's name is Robert, so evertime your email pops up, I think it is him. Yes, it is mysterious how we get tangled up with other family names. Similar to your situation, from the Sinclair/St. Clair's that I have communicated with, we also cannot find any way that we are connected. However, DNA doesn't lie, so there has to be a strong connection at some point in time. For some reason, the copy of your page did not come through. Best Wishes Gregg -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Wilson Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 7:18 AM To: TOM F DUNKLIN; wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Gregg,    I do understand your situation with the Sinclair/St. Clairs as I have the same thing going on with Templeton, Glenn, Flemming and Welingtons. We all are exact DNA matches. We all have no connections that we can find. And the beat goes on and on and on. Also sending a copy of my ancestrial direct linage . Hope it will open ! "In God we trust" R1b1c7=R-M222 Bob Wilson, Michigan ----- Original Message ---- From: TOM F DUNKLIN <dunk1432@verizon.net> To: "wilson@rootsweb.com" <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 11:30:10 PM Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Greg, Any chance the Scotland Wilsons were ever in SC>GA>AL in late 1700's thru early 1800's?   Paula ________________________________ From: "Wilson, Gregg" <gw3@evansville.edu> To: "wilson@rootsweb.com" <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Hi Bob, Thanks for your note.  I did my testing through myFTDNA and have been getting some surprising results.  The majority (by far!) of the names that I keep matching up with are St. Clair (or Sinclair, which is a corruption of St. Clair).  In fact, so much so that the director of the Sinclair Research Project contacted me.  There are supposedly 3 groups of Sinclair's, two of which they can trace and one that he calls a "mystery" group, and myself along with a few other Wilson's seem to have very close DNA matches.  It appears that this group originated in Scotland (possibly moving to Ireland) before settling in Virginia pre-1700.  Interestingly, there appears to be some evidence of the Wilsons & Sinclairs intermarrying in Scotland, but where & when has not been pinpointed. Anyway, it will be interesting to see where this line goes.  That is the fascinating aspect of DNA testing, there are just so many surprises.  If I can be of any further help to your research, I will be happy to send you my DYS values or other information. Best wishes Gregg Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM Professor & Chair Department of Exercise and Sport Science Graves Hall University of Evansville Evansville, IN 47720 Tel: (812) 488-2847 Fax: (812) 488-2087 -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Wilson Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:25 AM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Hey Gregg,   Thanks for posting your DNA and main haplogroup also. Gives me some hope.  Maybe we can make this habit forming. This would help some of us fantasticly. Sorry we don't have a match.   " In God we trust " R1b1c7=R-M222 Bob Wilson, Michigan ----- Original Message ---- From: "Wilson, Gregg" <gw3@evansville.edu> To: "wilson@rootsweb.com" <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 10:59:59 AM Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Our Wilson line originated in Virginia, and moved to Russell County, KY in the early 1800's.  We eventually migrated into Warrick County, IN, which is where we still reside.  Our line is R1b1a2 and  the main haplogroup classification is RM-269.  Does this general description fit into any other Wilson's out there? Best Wishes Gregg Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM Professor & Chair Department of Exercise and Sport Science Graves Hall University of Evansville Evansville, IN 47720 Tel: (812) 488-2847 Fax: (812) 488-2087 -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Wilson Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:03 AM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Congratulations Pat,   Wish you all the luck in the universe. I am still trying to find a Wilson who will do a DNA test on my John and Jane ( Mcdowell ) Wilson line. North Carolina to Missouri from about 1700 to 1900 some still there.  Please post your results when they are confirmed. Our direct line is R1b1c7 or R1b1b2e or R1b1b2a2e all are the main classification of R-M222 haplogroup.   Regards, Bob Wilson, Michigan ----- Original Message ---- From: pat <pkcb113@bellsouth.net> To: wilson-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 8:01:45 AM Subject: [WILSON] DNA I am excited to tell you all finally someone I believe I am related to distantly will do a DNA test for my Samuel Wilson of Lewis County WV.  He is as excited as I am.  He is a true pioneer for our family history.  That only gets me half way there, because that only gets us back to our forefather's possible relationship.  Now I need to get a direct Family member to agree to make sure I am related to this Samuel Wilson. Atleast that is how I perceive DNA matches.   Keep your fingers crossed.  I have hoped for this for so long.     ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2012 12:27:59
    1. Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while
    2. roberta hall
    3. Yes in your first line you said my father's mDNA comes from his mother she is my Wilson connection. With his sample already in storage maybe now I can get the money scraped together and have it tested for the Wilson mDNA. It's not the same as a YDNA but this may be the only way I can get a Wilson allele line established. Thank you :-) -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Ashford Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:09 PM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while Your father's mDNA came from his mother. Your's came from your mother. Your mother's came from her mother. Your mother's father's came from his mother, but he did not pass it on to anyone. I think is gets confusing because the surnames change. You are quite right, your father's sample is no help at all on your mother's lines. I hope this helps a little. On 01/13/2012 03:21 PM, roberta hall wrote: > Again, sorry still not clear.....the Estes sample is that of my > father's (I have not supplied a sample) what information would it > have of my mother, his wife? > You also mention both sons and daughters receive the mDNA so would > that mean that both his father (an Estes YDNA) and his mother (the > Wilson mDNA) would be in the same sample? As the granddaughter of this > pair I can see how my mDNA profile would be of my mother's side and > would not work. My father was one of 4 boys my grandparents had my > grandmother being the only direct line Wilson female in the family. > Wait I think a light bulb just went off....(mother to mother) my > grandmother born a Wilson sur-name of her father but her mother was a > Mullen so my father would have the Mullen mDNA and nothing of the > Wilson line...is that correct? Or would he indeed have the Wilson mDNA > factor given to him by his mother? > > Help > Roberta > > -----Original Message----- > From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jan Ashford > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:33 AM > To: wilson@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while > > The mDNA is mother to mother all the way back. That means that the > surname changes every generation. However both sons and daughters > receive mDNA from the mother. The son's just don't pass their's on to > their children. The daughter's do. You can use the Estes sample to > test for your mother, her mother, etc. but not for the Wilson surname > because that comes from your mom's father and she would have received > her mDNA from her mother, not her father. > > On 01/13/2012 09:39 AM, roberta hall wrote: >> It's been a while since I've had any new clues on my Wilson line. My >> father can't get his cousin to agree to the test (afraid of the gov. >> is his response). I have heard about the mDNA test but need >> clarification..My father a Estes by birth (male line) his mother was >> a Wilson..can I use the same DNA sample that was used to test his >> Estes lineage to also test his Wilson line or does that have to come >> from a female like myself who would actually be the granddaughter of >> the Wilson > line? >> As a recap..My Wilson line currently is in Boone Co., Arkansas. My >> grandmother was born in Stilwell, Ok. But this is not the home >> location of her father's (my great grandfather's) line. My great >> grandfather was actually born in Manchester, Scott County, Illinois >> as was his father. Now my Wilson line going back to my 4x's great >> grandfather or from 1839 ish >> -1900 lived on the family farm in Manchester, Scott Co., Illinois. My >> line moved to Webb City, Jasper County, Missouri around the 1890's. >> >> Prior to moving to the Manchester, Scott County, Illinois my 4 x's >> great grandfather is known to have been born in Kentucky..location >> currently unknown. I however have one clue in that his wife (lucky >> for me came from a family who has been documented in books) she was >> Keziah Tunnell, hers mother's maiden name was Money. Keziah Money >> Tunnell is said to have been born near Elizabethtown, Kentucky, her >> family settled near Murrayville, Kentucky in 1829. I'm hoping to find >> evidence that my Wilson line may have been in this same vicinity and >> is > where my 4 x's great grandparents met. >> 1839 is when the two married in Illinois and settled in Manchester, >> Illinois. >> >> So if anyone has any clues for this line of Wilson's I would love to >> hear from you, I know there are a lot of new members out there >> looking to learn where they came from..I've been around for a while >> but am > currently stuck. >> Also if someone can clarify the mDNA testing as it would pertain to >> my father's sample I would appreciate that. >> >> >> >> Roberta Estes Hall >> >> p.s. my husband's Hall line is from Switzerland Co., Indiana so it >> was fun to see that location pop up as I have been there in my past > adventures. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2012 11:51:02
    1. Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while
    2. Linda Miller Wilson
    3. One problem with mtDNA....maternal DNA...is that it doesn't help much with genealogy. I had mine done, and I discovered that my earliest female ancestor lived in Syria 5000 years ago. While I have had a few people contact me, there have been no connections as we could be kin thousands of years ago. There is a book entitled* The Seven Daughters of Eve* which is very interesting as it explains the seven divisions in which mtDNA is categorized. My purpose in taking the test was to determine if I had Native American heritage which I did not....at least not from the data that ftDNA has. I also took 23andme and did not discover Native American ancestry there either. The test did give me a long list of diseases to which I might be genetically predisposed. I am the kind of person who doesn't get bent out of shape about this kind of info, but it could be upsetting to some. Also, the report that I was NOT predisposed to breast cancer and the fact that not only I have had it but my mother and paternal aunt as well, served to make me doubt the results. I was flooded with emails from people with whom I matched, but the process of figuring out how and reading the dna results were overwhelming. I turned my results over to a surname researcher of one of my family names and haven't heard a word since. If I had to do it over, I would not have done 23andme. The outfit also charges nine dollars a month to monitor my matches. While I have read that there have been amazing matches with 23andme, it did not work for me. It was more technical than I was willing to deal with...might work for others. The info presented here might be old, and there might be upgrades or discoveries of which I am not aware...just my experience. Overall, I was fascinated that a female born in Syria had a daughter who had a daughter who had a daughter...so forth..until I was born, another daughter, and we all had the same mtDNA. I do not have a daughter, but my female line is not dead for the fact that my first cousin has a daughter who has a daughter...so the line lives. Because our mothers were sisters, they had the same mtDNA as our grandmother and her mother and her mother.......Linda Wilson On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Jan Ashford <jan@theashfords.org> wrote: > Your father's mDNA came from his mother. Your's came from your mother. > Your mother's came from her mother. Your mother's father's came from > his mother, but he did not pass it on to anyone. I think is gets > confusing because the surnames change. You are quite right, your > father's sample is no help at all on your mother's lines. I hope this > helps a little. > > > On 01/13/2012 03:21 PM, roberta hall wrote: > > Again, sorry still not clear.....the Estes sample is that of my father's > (I > > have not supplied a sample) what information would it have of my mother, > > his wife? > > You also mention both sons and daughters receive the mDNA so would that > mean > > that both his father (an Estes YDNA) and his mother (the Wilson mDNA) > would > > be in the same sample? As the granddaughter of this pair I can see how my > > mDNA profile would be of my mother's side and would not work. My father > was > > one of 4 boys my grandparents had my grandmother being the only direct > line > > Wilson female in the family. > > Wait I think a light bulb just went off....(mother to mother) my > grandmother > > born a Wilson sur-name of her father but her mother was a Mullen so my > > father would have the Mullen mDNA and nothing of the Wilson line...is > that > > correct? Or would he indeed have the Wilson mDNA factor given to him by > his > > mother? > > > > Help > > Roberta > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > > Behalf Of Jan Ashford > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:33 AM > > To: wilson@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while > > > > The mDNA is mother to mother all the way back. That means that the > surname > > changes every generation. However both sons and daughters receive mDNA > from > > the mother. The son's just don't pass their's on to their children. The > > daughter's do. You can use the Estes sample to test for your mother, her > > mother, etc. but not for the Wilson surname because that comes from your > > mom's father and she would have received her mDNA from her mother, not > her > > father. > > > > On 01/13/2012 09:39 AM, roberta hall wrote: > >> It's been a while since I've had any new clues on my Wilson line. My > >> father can't get his cousin to agree to the test (afraid of the gov. > >> is his response). I have heard about the mDNA test but need > >> clarification..My father a Estes by birth (male line) his mother was a > >> Wilson..can I use the same DNA sample that was used to test his Estes > >> lineage to also test his Wilson line or does that have to come from a > >> female like myself who would actually be the granddaughter of the Wilson > > line? > >> As a recap..My Wilson line currently is in Boone Co., Arkansas. My > >> grandmother was born in Stilwell, Ok. But this is not the home > >> location of her father's (my great grandfather's) line. My great > >> grandfather was actually born in Manchester, Scott County, Illinois as > >> was his father. Now my Wilson line going back to my 4x's great > >> grandfather or from 1839 ish > >> -1900 lived on the family farm in Manchester, Scott Co., Illinois. My > >> line moved to Webb City, Jasper County, Missouri around the 1890's. > >> > >> Prior to moving to the Manchester, Scott County, Illinois my 4 x's > >> great grandfather is known to have been born in Kentucky..location > >> currently unknown. I however have one clue in that his wife (lucky for > >> me came from a family who has been documented in books) she was Keziah > >> Tunnell, hers mother's maiden name was Money. Keziah Money Tunnell is > >> said to have been born near Elizabethtown, Kentucky, her family > >> settled near Murrayville, Kentucky in 1829. I'm hoping to find > >> evidence that my Wilson line may have been in this same vicinity and is > > where my 4 x's great grandparents met. > >> 1839 is when the two married in Illinois and settled in Manchester, > >> Illinois. > >> > >> So if anyone has any clues for this line of Wilson's I would love to > >> hear from you, I know there are a lot of new members out there looking > >> to learn where they came from..I've been around for a while but am > > currently stuck. > >> Also if someone can clarify the mDNA testing as it would pertain to my > >> father's sample I would appreciate that. > >> > >> > >> > >> Roberta Estes Hall > >> > >> p.s. my husband's Hall line is from Switzerland Co., Indiana so it was > >> fun to see that location pop up as I have been there in my past > > adventures. > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Linda Miller Wilson P. O. Box 129 Pettigrew, AR 72752 479-677-2681 **

    01/13/2012 10:59:07
    1. Re: [WILSON] GEORGE WILSON
    2. Donna Mariner
    3. Sure wish we could have submitteers putting a couple of dob or dod dates in their posts.  Makes it easier to check databases that may have duplicate names.  Thanks! ________________________________ From: "HGRACE5366@aol.com" <HGRACE5366@aol.com> To: wilson@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, January 13, 2012 2:18:18 PM Subject: [WILSON] GEORGE WILSON So glad to see all of the emails for the Wilson line.  My  Wilson line is George Legrand Wilson of Caswell Co NC and Pittsylvania Co  VA.  George was married to Katherine Pass.  George is the son of Jesse  and Sally Legrand Wilson. George is a brother to Greenberry Wilson who shows up in  Pittsylvania Co VA for a short time. George had a daughter named Parthenia Wilson.  She was  named after a sister of Jesse's. Parthernia  married Charles Henry Frazier in Pittsylvania  Co VA and then they moved to Carroll Co VA. Any one else researching this line? Rachel  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2012 09:28:16
    1. [WILSON] maternal DNA
    2. Donna Mariner
    3. Linda - beautifully written.  Too many of us have thought that these DNA tests advertised will help us locate some of our more immediate ancestors...and that's not the way it works, as you explained so well.  Also, most of us tend to believe that ALL of our ancestors had white skin and blue eyes...and that our great grandmother told the truth when she said that the child that was born after only 7 months of marriage was truly the biological child of the man she married.  Again, a beautiful assumption, but that's not the way it always works. We truly are a mix of many, many "mothers" sifted down thru time.  Our ancestry search can only lead us a few hundred years back, then it becomes a lot of "guesswork", a lot of "assuming".  Who are we to say who actually mated to become our parents 1000 years ago?  We are fortunate to obtain "proof" (?) of our lineage for more than two generations.  DNA is really the ONLY proof.  That is why many of us trace our lineage even though we know, or have suspicions, that our true parentage may never be known.  It's fascinating to "DO" genealogy....of anyone's ancestors! ________________________________ From: Linda Miller Wilson <lindamiller.wilson129@gmail.com> To: wilson@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, January 13, 2012 5:59:07 PM Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while One problem with mtDNA....maternal DNA...is that it doesn't help much with genealogy.  I had mine done, and I discovered that my earliest female ancestor lived in Syria 5000 years ago.  While I have had a few people contact me, there have been no connections as we could be kin thousands of years ago.  There is a book entitled* The Seven Daughters of Eve* which is very interesting as it explains the seven divisions in which mtDNA is categorized.  My purpose in taking the test was to determine if I had Native American heritage which I did not....at least not from the data that ftDNA has.  I also took 23andme and did not discover Native American ancestry there either.  The test did give me a long list of diseases to which I might be genetically predisposed.  I am the kind of person who doesn't get bent out of shape about this kind of info, but it could be upsetting to some.  Also, the report that I was NOT predisposed to breast cancer and the fact that not only I have had it but my mother and paternal aunt as well, served to make me doubt the results.  I was flooded with emails from people with whom I matched, but the process of figuring out how and reading the dna results were overwhelming.  I turned my results over to a surname researcher of one of my family names and haven't heard a word since.  If I had to do it over, I would not have done 23andme.  The outfit also charges nine dollars a month to monitor my matches.  While I have read that there have been amazing matches with 23andme, it did not work for me. It was more technical than I was willing to deal with...might work for others.   The info presented here might be old, and there might be upgrades or discoveries of which I am not aware...just my experience.  Overall, I was fascinated that a female born in Syria had a daughter who had a daughter who had a daughter...so forth..until I was born, another daughter, and we all had the same mtDNA. I do not have a daughter, but  my female line is not dead for the fact that my first cousin has a daughter who has a daughter...so the line lives.  Because our mothers were sisters, they had the same mtDNA as our grandmother and her mother and her mother.......Linda Wilson On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Jan Ashford <jan@theashfords.org> wrote: > Your father's mDNA came from his mother.  Your's came from your mother. > Your mother's came from her mother.  Your mother's father's came from > his mother, but he did not pass it on to anyone.  I think is gets > confusing because the surnames change.  You are quite right, your > father's sample is no help at all on your mother's lines.  I hope this > helps a little. > > > On 01/13/2012 03:21 PM, roberta hall wrote: > > Again, sorry still not clear.....the Estes sample is that of my father's > (I > > have not supplied a sample)  what information would it have of my mother, > > his wife? > > You also mention both sons and daughters receive the mDNA so would that > mean > > that both his father (an Estes YDNA) and his mother (the Wilson mDNA) > would > > be in the same sample? As the granddaughter of this pair I can see how my > > mDNA profile would be of my mother's side and would not work. My father > was > > one of 4 boys my grandparents had my grandmother being the only direct > line > > Wilson female in the family. > > Wait I think a light bulb just went off....(mother to mother) my > grandmother > > born a Wilson sur-name of her father but her mother was a Mullen so my > > father would have the Mullen mDNA and nothing of the Wilson line...is > that > > correct? Or would he indeed have the Wilson mDNA factor given to him by > his > > mother? > > > > Help > > Roberta > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > > Behalf Of Jan Ashford > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:33 AM > > To: wilson@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while > > > > The mDNA is mother to mother all the way back.  That means that the > surname > > changes every generation.  However both sons and daughters receive mDNA > from > > the mother.  The son's just don't pass their's on to their children.  The > > daughter's do.  You can use the Estes sample to test for your mother, her > > mother, etc. but not for the Wilson surname because that comes from your > > mom's father and she would have received her mDNA from her mother, not > her > > father. > > > > On 01/13/2012 09:39 AM, roberta hall wrote: > >> It's been a while since I've had any new clues on my Wilson line. My > >> father can't get his cousin to agree to the test (afraid of the gov. > >> is his response). I have heard about the mDNA test but need > >> clarification..My father a Estes by birth (male line) his mother was a > >> Wilson..can I use the same DNA sample that was used to test his Estes > >> lineage to also test his Wilson line or does that have to come from a > >> female like myself who would actually be the granddaughter of the Wilson > > line? > >> As a recap..My Wilson line currently is in Boone Co., Arkansas. My > >> grandmother was born in Stilwell, Ok. But this is not the home > >> location of her father's (my great grandfather's) line. My great > >> grandfather was actually born in Manchester, Scott County, Illinois as > >> was his father. Now my Wilson line going back to my 4x's great > >> grandfather or from 1839 ish > >> -1900 lived on the family farm in Manchester, Scott Co., Illinois. My > >> line moved to Webb City, Jasper County, Missouri around the 1890's. > >> > >> Prior to moving to the Manchester, Scott County, Illinois my 4 x's > >> great grandfather is known to have been born in Kentucky..location > >> currently unknown. I however have one clue in that his wife (lucky for > >> me came from a family who has been documented in books) she was Keziah > >> Tunnell, hers mother's maiden name was Money.  Keziah Money Tunnell is > >> said to have been born near Elizabethtown, Kentucky, her family > >> settled near Murrayville, Kentucky in 1829. I'm hoping to find > >> evidence that my Wilson line may have been in this same vicinity and is > > where my 4 x's great grandparents met. > >> 1839 is when the two married in Illinois and settled in Manchester, > >> Illinois. > >> > >> So if anyone has any clues for this line of Wilson's I would love to > >> hear from you, I know there are a lot of new members out there looking > >> to learn where they came from..I've been around for a while but am > > currently stuck. > >> Also if someone can clarify the mDNA testing as it would pertain to my > >> father's sample I would appreciate that. > >> > >> > >> > >> Roberta Estes Hall > >> > >> p.s. my husband's Hall line is from Switzerland Co., Indiana so it was > >> fun to see that location pop up as I have been there in my past > > adventures. > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Linda Miller Wilson P. O. Box 129 Pettigrew, AR 72752 479-677-2681 ** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2012 09:22:25
    1. Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while
    2. Jan Ashford
    3. Your father's mDNA came from his mother. Your's came from your mother. Your mother's came from her mother. Your mother's father's came from his mother, but he did not pass it on to anyone. I think is gets confusing because the surnames change. You are quite right, your father's sample is no help at all on your mother's lines. I hope this helps a little. On 01/13/2012 03:21 PM, roberta hall wrote: > Again, sorry still not clear.....the Estes sample is that of my father's (I > have not supplied a sample) what information would it have of my mother, > his wife? > You also mention both sons and daughters receive the mDNA so would that mean > that both his father (an Estes YDNA) and his mother (the Wilson mDNA) would > be in the same sample? As the granddaughter of this pair I can see how my > mDNA profile would be of my mother's side and would not work. My father was > one of 4 boys my grandparents had my grandmother being the only direct line > Wilson female in the family. > Wait I think a light bulb just went off....(mother to mother) my grandmother > born a Wilson sur-name of her father but her mother was a Mullen so my > father would have the Mullen mDNA and nothing of the Wilson line...is that > correct? Or would he indeed have the Wilson mDNA factor given to him by his > mother? > > Help > Roberta > > -----Original Message----- > From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Jan Ashford > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:33 AM > To: wilson@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while > > The mDNA is mother to mother all the way back. That means that the surname > changes every generation. However both sons and daughters receive mDNA from > the mother. The son's just don't pass their's on to their children. The > daughter's do. You can use the Estes sample to test for your mother, her > mother, etc. but not for the Wilson surname because that comes from your > mom's father and she would have received her mDNA from her mother, not her > father. > > On 01/13/2012 09:39 AM, roberta hall wrote: >> It's been a while since I've had any new clues on my Wilson line. My >> father can't get his cousin to agree to the test (afraid of the gov. >> is his response). I have heard about the mDNA test but need >> clarification..My father a Estes by birth (male line) his mother was a >> Wilson..can I use the same DNA sample that was used to test his Estes >> lineage to also test his Wilson line or does that have to come from a >> female like myself who would actually be the granddaughter of the Wilson > line? >> As a recap..My Wilson line currently is in Boone Co., Arkansas. My >> grandmother was born in Stilwell, Ok. But this is not the home >> location of her father's (my great grandfather's) line. My great >> grandfather was actually born in Manchester, Scott County, Illinois as >> was his father. Now my Wilson line going back to my 4x's great >> grandfather or from 1839 ish >> -1900 lived on the family farm in Manchester, Scott Co., Illinois. My >> line moved to Webb City, Jasper County, Missouri around the 1890's. >> >> Prior to moving to the Manchester, Scott County, Illinois my 4 x's >> great grandfather is known to have been born in Kentucky..location >> currently unknown. I however have one clue in that his wife (lucky for >> me came from a family who has been documented in books) she was Keziah >> Tunnell, hers mother's maiden name was Money. Keziah Money Tunnell is >> said to have been born near Elizabethtown, Kentucky, her family >> settled near Murrayville, Kentucky in 1829. I'm hoping to find >> evidence that my Wilson line may have been in this same vicinity and is > where my 4 x's great grandparents met. >> 1839 is when the two married in Illinois and settled in Manchester, >> Illinois. >> >> So if anyone has any clues for this line of Wilson's I would love to >> hear from you, I know there are a lot of new members out there looking >> to learn where they came from..I've been around for a while but am > currently stuck. >> Also if someone can clarify the mDNA testing as it would pertain to my >> father's sample I would appreciate that. >> >> >> >> Roberta Estes Hall >> >> p.s. my husband's Hall line is from Switzerland Co., Indiana so it was >> fun to see that location pop up as I have been there in my past > adventures. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2012 09:09:14
    1. Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's
    2. roberta hall
    3. Jan can you tell me something about your Luther Wilson? My great grandfather and his wife had a son names either Jake Luther or Luther Wilson (depending on which document you look at) I lose track of Luther and his mom after the 1910 census. Roberta -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan wilson Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:41 AM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's Thanks Betty. I am going to send off for the DNA kit and then we'll see. Still looking for the elusive Luther Wilson. He had a son named Edgar (James Monroe's half brother) I am told. Maybe he went by Luther but his first name was officially something else. Jan -----Original Message----- From: bettyputnam <bwadeputnam@fairpoint.net> To: wilson <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:10 am Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's Hi Jan & Gregg, Jan, it's been a long time since we corresponded about our Wilson's. Now aybe we can get back into it. I'll look up and see what I have on your usband's family. Gregg & I have been corresponding also, and maybe by dding another person to the search, we can find out more. I have Wilson's on both my mom & dad's sides of the family, all from Russell ounty, KY. They are also related on the Hopper lines. There are so many ilson's in Russell, and surrounding counties, but I believe they are robably all related somewhere along the line. Will email you off-list with ore info. In the meantime, if anyone out there have ties to Russell ounty, KY, you can email me at bwadeputnam@fairpoint.net and we'll all work ogether on this. Betty Wade Putnam andora, OH ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Jan wilson" <janwilson.jane@aol.com> o: <wilson@rootsweb.com> ent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:00 AM ubject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Gregg: My name is Jan Wilson and I am a co-administrator of the Reynolds and the Moses DNA projects (on my mother's side.) I have looked at the Wilson DNA project and have considered testing my husband, Ron. He was born in Russell County, Kentucky. Ronnie is the grandson of James Monroe Wilson (son of Balzorie Whittle and Jasper Moses Wilson.) James Monroe Wilson was born on 4-6-1883 in Russell County, Kentucky and died 1-27-1964 in Russell Cty. Ky. James Monroe Wilson (they called him Jimmy Roe) married Martha C. Tucker, daughter of Elias Tucker. There is a glitch though - James Monroe was actually 4 years old when Balzorie Whittle and Jasper Moses were married. I have been told by older family members that his father was a fellow named Luther Wilson but my mother-in-law told me years ago that he was a Whittle. Whether she said that because his mother was a Whittle or not I don't know. I believe Jasper Moses was the son of a Moses Brackston Wilson but that may be irrelevant. Needless to say I investigated the Wilson DNA project as a possible solution to at least find out if my husband is a Whittle or a Wilson but when I looked at the Wilson DNA project at FTM it was not clear to me that it would be worth participating. I just recently subscribed to the Wilson mailing list and I am happy to see these postings about the DNA project and particularly glad to see a post about the Wilsons in Russell County, Kentucky. This has helped me make up my mind to go ahead with the testing. I will be looking forward to seeing the results. Have you ever seen any evidence that there was more than the one line of Wilsons in Russell County at that time? Jan Wilson Kings Mills, Ohio (513) 459-9116 -----Original Message----- From: Wilson, Gregg <gw3@evansville.edu> To: wilson <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:04 am Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Our Wilson line originated in Virginia, and moved to Russell County, KY in the arly 1800's. We eventually migrated into Warrick County, IN, which is where we till reside. Our line is R1b1a2 and the main haplogroup classification is M-269. Does this general description fit into any other Wilson's out there? Best Wishes regg Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM rofessor & Chair epartment of Exercise and Sport Science raves Hall niversity of Evansville vansville, IN 47720 el: (812) 488-2847 ax: (812) 488-2087 -----Original Message----- ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2012 08:32:26
    1. Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while
    2. roberta hall
    3. Again, sorry still not clear.....the Estes sample is that of my father's (I have not supplied a sample) what information would it have of my mother, his wife? You also mention both sons and daughters receive the mDNA so would that mean that both his father (an Estes YDNA) and his mother (the Wilson mDNA) would be in the same sample? As the granddaughter of this pair I can see how my mDNA profile would be of my mother's side and would not work. My father was one of 4 boys my grandparents had my grandmother being the only direct line Wilson female in the family. Wait I think a light bulb just went off....(mother to mother) my grandmother born a Wilson sur-name of her father but her mother was a Mullen so my father would have the Mullen mDNA and nothing of the Wilson line...is that correct? Or would he indeed have the Wilson mDNA factor given to him by his mother? Help Roberta -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Ashford Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:33 AM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while The mDNA is mother to mother all the way back. That means that the surname changes every generation. However both sons and daughters receive mDNA from the mother. The son's just don't pass their's on to their children. The daughter's do. You can use the Estes sample to test for your mother, her mother, etc. but not for the Wilson surname because that comes from your mom's father and she would have received her mDNA from her mother, not her father. On 01/13/2012 09:39 AM, roberta hall wrote: > It's been a while since I've had any new clues on my Wilson line. My > father can't get his cousin to agree to the test (afraid of the gov. > is his response). I have heard about the mDNA test but need > clarification..My father a Estes by birth (male line) his mother was a > Wilson..can I use the same DNA sample that was used to test his Estes > lineage to also test his Wilson line or does that have to come from a > female like myself who would actually be the granddaughter of the Wilson line? > > As a recap..My Wilson line currently is in Boone Co., Arkansas. My > grandmother was born in Stilwell, Ok. But this is not the home > location of her father's (my great grandfather's) line. My great > grandfather was actually born in Manchester, Scott County, Illinois as > was his father. Now my Wilson line going back to my 4x's great > grandfather or from 1839 ish > -1900 lived on the family farm in Manchester, Scott Co., Illinois. My > line moved to Webb City, Jasper County, Missouri around the 1890's. > > Prior to moving to the Manchester, Scott County, Illinois my 4 x's > great grandfather is known to have been born in Kentucky..location > currently unknown. I however have one clue in that his wife (lucky for > me came from a family who has been documented in books) she was Keziah > Tunnell, hers mother's maiden name was Money. Keziah Money Tunnell is > said to have been born near Elizabethtown, Kentucky, her family > settled near Murrayville, Kentucky in 1829. I'm hoping to find > evidence that my Wilson line may have been in this same vicinity and is where my 4 x's great grandparents met. > 1839 is when the two married in Illinois and settled in Manchester, > Illinois. > > So if anyone has any clues for this line of Wilson's I would love to > hear from you, I know there are a lot of new members out there looking > to learn where they came from..I've been around for a while but am currently stuck. > Also if someone can clarify the mDNA testing as it would pertain to my > father's sample I would appreciate that. > > > > Roberta Estes Hall > > p.s. my husband's Hall line is from Switzerland Co., Indiana so it was > fun to see that location pop up as I have been there in my past adventures. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2012 08:21:59
    1. [WILSON] GEORGE WILSON
    2. So glad to see all of the emails for the Wilson line. My Wilson line is George Legrand Wilson of Caswell Co NC and Pittsylvania Co VA. George was married to Katherine Pass. George is the son of Jesse and Sally Legrand Wilson. George is a brother to Greenberry Wilson who shows up in Pittsylvania Co VA for a short time. George had a daughter named Parthenia Wilson. She was named after a sister of Jesse's. Parthernia married Charles Henry Frazier in Pittsylvania Co VA and then they moved to Carroll Co VA. Any one else researching this line? Rachel

    01/13/2012 08:18:18
    1. Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's
    2. bettyputnam
    3. Hi Gregg & Jan, Gregg, it would not surprise me one bit if we're related on several different lines. A cousin did some genealogy many years ago and her observation was, "if your surnames were Wilson, Hopper, Wade, Hart, Judd, or a number of other names, you were related to everyone in Russell County." I certainly believe it. Jan, I'm just getting into your Wilson info and will let you know what I find. I know I'm going to need some dates to follow through with all this info. I'll get back to you. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilson, Gregg" <gw3@evansville.edu> To: <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's > Hi Jan & Betty, > > There is a web site called Find A Grave.com that is very useful. If you > search for Wilson's in Russell and Pulaski Counties in Kentucky, there are > listings for over 400 Wilsons buried in those two counties alone, with > many of the dates from the 1800's. It seems that in terms of migration > patterns, as settlers in Virginia moved west, that was more or less a > route that many took. So, I would think that the chances are pretty > favorable that more than one line of Wilson's travelled through this > region. > > Something that Betty has really helped me to understand is how counties > have changed boundaries over time. Depending on what time frame one is > looking, Russell County in KY could be one name or another as lines were > re-drawn (in fact, Kentucky was carved out of Virginia, so a particular > area of KY may have actually been a Virginian county, again depending on > the time frame). Betty is a great historian of these counties and how > they evolved. > > Betty, there are Hoppers in my line as well. It seems that one group of > Hoppers also moved into Warrick County, and married with the Wilsons. It > would be interesting to see if this is the same family. We may be related > in more ways than one! :) > > Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM > Professor & Chair > Department of Exercise and Sport Science > Graves Hall > University of Evansville > Evansville, IN 47720 > Tel: (812) 488-2847 > Fax: (812) 488-2087 >

    01/13/2012 07:47:19
    1. Re: [WILSON] (no subject)
    2. Charlie&Sue Wilson
    3. This is some kind of fake virus scanner, "scanning" your system and always telling you your computer is infected. This person needs to be removed from the list. Don't any one else click on the link. On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 03:17:15 -0800 (PST) Janet Brosius <sterlingln@yahoo.com> writes: > http://migrantsrightsscotland.org.uk/likeit.php?site128.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f107ef89fe17700em03vuc

    01/13/2012 06:53:13
    1. Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's
    2. Wilson, Gregg
    3. Hi Jan & Betty, There is a web site called Find A Grave.com that is very useful. If you search for Wilson's in Russell and Pulaski Counties in Kentucky, there are listings for over 400 Wilsons buried in those two counties alone, with many of the dates from the 1800's. It seems that in terms of migration patterns, as settlers in Virginia moved west, that was more or less a route that many took. So, I would think that the chances are pretty favorable that more than one line of Wilson's travelled through this region. Something that Betty has really helped me to understand is how counties have changed boundaries over time. Depending on what time frame one is looking, Russell County in KY could be one name or another as lines were re-drawn (in fact, Kentucky was carved out of Virginia, so a particular area of KY may have actually been a Virginian county, again depending on the time frame). Betty is a great historian of these counties and how they evolved. Betty, there are Hoppers in my line as well. It seems that one group of Hoppers also moved into Warrick County, and married with the Wilsons. It would be interesting to see if this is the same family. We may be related in more ways than one! :) Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM Professor & Chair Department of Exercise and Sport Science Graves Hall University of Evansville Evansville, IN 47720 Tel: (812) 488-2847 Fax: (812) 488-2087 -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bettyputnam Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 5:10 AM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's Hi Jan & Gregg, Jan, it's been a long time since we corresponded about our Wilson's. Now maybe we can get back into it. I'll look up and see what I have on your husband's family. Gregg & I have been corresponding also, and maybe by adding another person to the search, we can find out more. I have Wilson's on both my mom & dad's sides of the family, all from Russell County, KY. They are also related on the Hopper lines. There are so many Wilson's in Russell, and surrounding counties, but I believe they are probably all related somewhere along the line. Will email you off-list with more info. In the meantime, if anyone out there have ties to Russell County, KY, you can email me at bwadeputnam@fairpoint.net and we'll all work together on this. Betty Wade Putnam Pandora, OH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan wilson" <janwilson.jane@aol.com> To: <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:00 AM Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA > > Gregg: > > My name is Jan Wilson and I am a co-administrator of the Reynolds and the > Moses DNA projects (on my mother's side.) I have looked at the Wilson DNA > project and have considered testing my husband, Ron. He was born in > Russell County, Kentucky. > > Ronnie is the grandson of James Monroe Wilson (son of Balzorie Whittle and > Jasper Moses Wilson.) James Monroe Wilson was born on 4-6-1883 in Russell > County, Kentucky and died 1-27-1964 in Russell Cty. Ky. > > James Monroe Wilson (they called him Jimmy Roe) married Martha C. Tucker, > daughter of Elias Tucker. > > There is a glitch though - James Monroe was actually 4 years old when > Balzorie Whittle and Jasper Moses were married. I have been told by older > family members that his father was a fellow named Luther Wilson but my > mother-in-law told me years ago that he was a Whittle. Whether she said > that because his mother was a Whittle or not I don't know. > > I believe Jasper Moses was the son of a Moses Brackston Wilson but that > may be irrelevant. > > Needless to say I investigated the Wilson DNA project as a possible > solution to at least find out if my husband is a Whittle or a Wilson but > when I looked at the Wilson DNA project at FTM it was not clear to me that > it would be worth participating. I just recently subscribed to the Wilson > mailing list and I am happy to see these postings about the DNA project > and particularly glad to see a post about the Wilsons in Russell County, > Kentucky. This has helped me make up my mind to go ahead with the > testing. > > I will be looking forward to seeing the results. Have you ever seen any > evidence that there was more than the one line of Wilsons in Russell > County at that time? > > Jan Wilson > Kings Mills, Ohio > (513) 459-9116 > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wilson, Gregg <gw3@evansville.edu> > To: wilson <wilson@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:04 am > Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA > > > Our Wilson line originated in Virginia, and moved to Russell County, KY in > the > arly 1800's. We eventually migrated into Warrick County, IN, which is > where we > till reside. Our line is R1b1a2 and the main haplogroup classification > is > M-269. > Does this general description fit into any other Wilson's out there? > Best Wishes > regg > Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM > rofessor & Chair > epartment of Exercise and Sport Science > raves Hall > niversity of Evansville > vansville, IN 47720 > el: (812) 488-2847 > ax: (812) 488-2087 > -----Original Message----- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2012 06:49:06
    1. Re: [WILSON] DNA
    2. Janean Ray
    3. It was always a "story" in our family that we were related to both presidents Adams and Wilson. So far nothing even close. My great grandma's mother was an Adams and her father was a Wilson. SO, you'd think my grandma would know right? After all it was HER grandparents. My Adams line came from Ireland and landed in SC before going on to White Co IL. My Wilson line came out of Chester Co. PA area and before that, no clue. Don't know their heritage. Came down into Loudou, Fauquier and Prince William Co's via Martinsbug and Harper's Ferry (Berkeley and Jefferson Co's WV) and ended up in White Co. IL. However I did find that through the Wilson line...... Which married a CHINN/BALL descendant that I am 1st cousin 9x removed from President Washington and a Mayflower Descendant. So that’s why I said earlier that DNA doesn't help those of us where the Wilson line has ended several years back. But if one of you who have done your DNA knew positive that you were related to Washington....... Then we could have something to talk about. That’s why DNA websites should have contact information and descendant information for those of use to check out.... And make contact with those people. Janean -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pat Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:11 PM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA There is a suggestion in a book that my Wilson has a remarkable resemblance to President Woodrow Wilson and we have an autographed Photograph of him, given long before Xerox much less scanners perhaps 1930 or 40's before me anyway.  So to come close  to President Wilson, would boast my genes to explosion. I am excited to see some activity on the website again.  Thanks for all your input. Surely it won't be long now and I can compare results to yours. With the experience I see,  I know I will have some expert opinions to help me.  You all will know as soon as I know.    This is the only way for us all to come to some conclusions and answers to our questions is DNA testing, which is the best up to now.  Wonder what the future holds!.   Thanks.   Pat --- On Thu, 1/12/12, Janean Ray <jray38@neo.rr.com> wrote: From: Janean Ray <jray38@neo.rr.com> Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA To: wilson@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, January 12, 2012, 1:36 PM You have to remember that to the general population DNA results mean nothing if we can't have ours checked/matched. My Wilson line may have originated somewhere around Chester Co. PA before coming down to the area of Prince William, Loudoun, Fauquier co's in Virginia.... Some moved on to Union Co. KY and others to White Co. IL in the mid 1800's.  All closely matching your areas.  While DNA is a great tool for those who have someone to do it....... Those of us who don't are out of luck. What we NEED is for those who have gotten theirs proven..... To come on these lists or in a Wilson (whatever surname) website and post their proven PEOPLE who have matched certain lines.  Giving us Haplogroups and numbers mean nothing to us. If you are related to (example) Peter b. 1825 son of John and Mary.... M. Elizabeth Smith with XYZ children and HE is a match for the line of President Woodrow Wilson....... Then that is useful information.  Be cause up till then....... Maybe I didn't know I was related to Woodrow Wilson but you and I have spoken and had a distant connection with our two Wilsons and you couldn't even see the connect to the President.  Might make one go off in another direction but knowing you have a connection and I connect to you will keep me on the right path. Just a thought Janean -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wilson, Gregg Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:00 AM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Our Wilson line originated in Virginia, and moved to Russell County, KY in the early 1800's.  We eventually migrated into Warrick County, IN, which is where we still reside.  Our line is R1b1a2 and  the main haplogroup classification is RM-269.  Does this general description fit into any other Wilson's out there? Best Wishes Gregg Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM Professor & Chair Department of Exercise and Sport Science Graves Hall University of Evansville Evansville, IN 47720 Tel: (812) 488-2847 Fax: (812) 488-2087 -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Wilson Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:03 AM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Congratulations Pat,   Wish you all the luck in the universe. I am still trying to find a Wilson who will do a DNA test on my John and Jane ( Mcdowell ) Wilson line. North Carolina to Missouri from about 1700 to 1900 some still there.  Please post your results when they are confirmed. Our direct line is R1b1c7 or R1b1b2e or R1b1b2a2e all are the main classification of R-M222 haplogroup.   Regards, Bob Wilson, Michigan ----- Original Message ---- From: pat <pkcb113@bellsouth.net> To: wilson-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 8:01:45 AM Subject: [WILSON] DNA I am excited to tell you all finally someone I believe I am related to distantly will do a DNA test for my Samuel Wilson of Lewis County WV.  He is as excited as I am.  He is a true pioneer for our family history.  That only gets me half way there, because that only gets us back to our forefather's possible relationship.  Now I need to get a direct Family member to agree to make sure I am related to this Samuel Wilson. Atleast that is how I perceive DNA matches.   Keep your fingers crossed.  I have hoped for this for so long.     ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2012 05:41:39
    1. Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's
    2. Jan wilson
    3. Thanks Betty. I am going to send off for the DNA kit and then we'll see. Still looking for the elusive Luther Wilson. He had a son named Edgar (James Monroe's half brother) I am told. Maybe he went by Luther but his first name was officially something else. Jan -----Original Message----- From: bettyputnam <bwadeputnam@fairpoint.net> To: wilson <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:10 am Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's Hi Jan & Gregg, Jan, it's been a long time since we corresponded about our Wilson's. Now aybe we can get back into it. I'll look up and see what I have on your usband's family. Gregg & I have been corresponding also, and maybe by dding another person to the search, we can find out more. I have Wilson's on both my mom & dad's sides of the family, all from Russell ounty, KY. They are also related on the Hopper lines. There are so many ilson's in Russell, and surrounding counties, but I believe they are robably all related somewhere along the line. Will email you off-list with ore info. In the meantime, if anyone out there have ties to Russell ounty, KY, you can email me at bwadeputnam@fairpoint.net and we'll all work ogether on this. Betty Wade Putnam andora, OH ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Jan wilson" <janwilson.jane@aol.com> o: <wilson@rootsweb.com> ent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:00 AM ubject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Gregg: My name is Jan Wilson and I am a co-administrator of the Reynolds and the Moses DNA projects (on my mother's side.) I have looked at the Wilson DNA project and have considered testing my husband, Ron. He was born in Russell County, Kentucky. Ronnie is the grandson of James Monroe Wilson (son of Balzorie Whittle and Jasper Moses Wilson.) James Monroe Wilson was born on 4-6-1883 in Russell County, Kentucky and died 1-27-1964 in Russell Cty. Ky. James Monroe Wilson (they called him Jimmy Roe) married Martha C. Tucker, daughter of Elias Tucker. There is a glitch though - James Monroe was actually 4 years old when Balzorie Whittle and Jasper Moses were married. I have been told by older family members that his father was a fellow named Luther Wilson but my mother-in-law told me years ago that he was a Whittle. Whether she said that because his mother was a Whittle or not I don't know. I believe Jasper Moses was the son of a Moses Brackston Wilson but that may be irrelevant. Needless to say I investigated the Wilson DNA project as a possible solution to at least find out if my husband is a Whittle or a Wilson but when I looked at the Wilson DNA project at FTM it was not clear to me that it would be worth participating. I just recently subscribed to the Wilson mailing list and I am happy to see these postings about the DNA project and particularly glad to see a post about the Wilsons in Russell County, Kentucky. This has helped me make up my mind to go ahead with the testing. I will be looking forward to seeing the results. Have you ever seen any evidence that there was more than the one line of Wilsons in Russell County at that time? Jan Wilson Kings Mills, Ohio (513) 459-9116 -----Original Message----- From: Wilson, Gregg <gw3@evansville.edu> To: wilson <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:04 am Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Our Wilson line originated in Virginia, and moved to Russell County, KY in the arly 1800's. We eventually migrated into Warrick County, IN, which is where we till reside. Our line is R1b1a2 and the main haplogroup classification is M-269. Does this general description fit into any other Wilson's out there? Best Wishes regg Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM rofessor & Chair epartment of Exercise and Sport Science raves Hall niversity of Evansville vansville, IN 47720 el: (812) 488-2847 ax: (812) 488-2087 -----Original Message----- ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

    01/13/2012 04:40:58
    1. Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while
    2. Jan Ashford
    3. The mDNA is mother to mother all the way back. That means that the surname changes every generation. However both sons and daughters receive mDNA from the mother. The son's just don't pass their's on to their children. The daughter's do. You can use the Estes sample to test for your mother, her mother, etc. but not for the Wilson surname because that comes from your mom's father and she would have received her mDNA from her mother, not her father. On 01/13/2012 09:39 AM, roberta hall wrote: > It's been a while since I've had any new clues on my Wilson line. My father > can't get his cousin to agree to the test (afraid of the gov. is his > response). I have heard about the mDNA test but need clarification..My > father a Estes by birth (male line) his mother was a Wilson..can I use the > same DNA sample that was used to test his Estes lineage to also test his > Wilson line or does that have to come from a female like myself who would > actually be the granddaughter of the Wilson line? > > As a recap..My Wilson line currently is in Boone Co., Arkansas. My > grandmother was born in Stilwell, Ok. But this is not the home location of > her father's (my great grandfather's) line. My great grandfather was > actually born in Manchester, Scott County, Illinois as was his father. Now > my Wilson line going back to my 4x's great grandfather or from 1839 ish > -1900 lived on the family farm in Manchester, Scott Co., Illinois. My line > moved to Webb City, Jasper County, Missouri around the 1890's. > > Prior to moving to the Manchester, Scott County, Illinois my 4 x's great > grandfather is known to have been born in Kentucky..location currently > unknown. I however have one clue in that his wife (lucky for me came from a > family who has been documented in books) she was Keziah Tunnell, hers > mother's maiden name was Money. Keziah Money Tunnell is said to have been > born near Elizabethtown, Kentucky, her family settled near Murrayville, > Kentucky in 1829. I'm hoping to find evidence that my Wilson line may have > been in this same vicinity and is where my 4 x's great grandparents met. > 1839 is when the two married in Illinois and settled in Manchester, > Illinois. > > So if anyone has any clues for this line of Wilson's I would love to hear > from you, I know there are a lot of new members out there looking to learn > where they came from..I've been around for a while but am currently stuck. > Also if someone can clarify the mDNA testing as it would pertain to my > father's sample I would appreciate that. > > > > Roberta Estes Hall > > p.s. my husband's Hall line is from Switzerland Co., Indiana so it was fun > to see that location pop up as I have been there in my past adventures. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2012 04:32:37
    1. Re: [WILSON] DNA
    2. Dee's Genealogy
    3. Hey, Bob. Which Wilson's in Michigan are you related to? I have family in Genesse, Bay, and Gladwin counties. Any connection? Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Wilson" <reodiat@sbcglobal.net> To: "TOM F DUNKLIN" <dunk1432@verizon.net>; <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Gregg, I do understand your situation with the Sinclair/St. Clairs as I have the same thing going on with Templeton, Glenn, Flemming and Welingtons. We all are exact DNA matches. We all have no connections that we can find. And the beat goes on and on and on. Also sending a copy of my ancestrial direct linage . Hope it will open ! "In God we trust" R1b1c7=R-M222 Bob Wilson, Michigan ----- Original Message ---- From: TOM F DUNKLIN <dunk1432@verizon.net> To: "wilson@rootsweb.com" <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 11:30:10 PM Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Greg, Any chance the Scotland Wilsons were ever in SC>GA>AL in late 1700's thru early 1800's? Paula ________________________________ From: "Wilson, Gregg" <gw3@evansville.edu> To: "wilson@rootsweb.com" <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Hi Bob, Thanks for your note. I did my testing through myFTDNA and have been getting some surprising results. The majority (by far!) of the names that I keep matching up with are St. Clair (or Sinclair, which is a corruption of St. Clair). In fact, so much so that the director of the Sinclair Research Project contacted me. There are supposedly 3 groups of Sinclair's, two of which they can trace and one that he calls a "mystery" group, and myself along with a few other Wilson's seem to have very close DNA matches. It appears that this group originated in Scotland (possibly moving to Ireland) before settling in Virginia pre-1700. Interestingly, there appears to be some evidence of the Wilsons & Sinclairs intermarrying in Scotland, but where & when has not been pinpointed. Anyway, it will be interesting to see where this line goes. That is the fascinating aspect of DNA testing, there are just so many surprises. If I can be of any further help to your research, I will be happy to send you my DYS values or other information. Best wishes Gregg Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM Professor & Chair Department of Exercise and Sport Science Graves Hall University of Evansville Evansville, IN 47720 Tel: (812) 488-2847 Fax: (812) 488-2087 -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Wilson Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:25 AM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Hey Gregg, Thanks for posting your DNA and main haplogroup also. Gives me some hope. Maybe we can make this habit forming. This would help some of us fantasticly. Sorry we don't have a match. " In God we trust " R1b1c7=R-M222 Bob Wilson, Michigan ----- Original Message ---- From: "Wilson, Gregg" <gw3@evansville.edu> To: "wilson@rootsweb.com" <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 10:59:59 AM Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Our Wilson line originated in Virginia, and moved to Russell County, KY in the early 1800's. We eventually migrated into Warrick County, IN, which is where we still reside. Our line is R1b1a2 and the main haplogroup classification is RM-269. Does this general description fit into any other Wilson's out there? Best Wishes Gregg Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM Professor & Chair Department of Exercise and Sport Science Graves Hall University of Evansville Evansville, IN 47720 Tel: (812) 488-2847 Fax: (812) 488-2087 -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Wilson Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:03 AM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Congratulations Pat, Wish you all the luck in the universe. I am still trying to find a Wilson who will do a DNA test on my John and Jane ( Mcdowell ) Wilson line. North Carolina to Missouri from about 1700 to 1900 some still there. Please post your results when they are confirmed. Our direct line is R1b1c7 or R1b1b2e or R1b1b2a2e all are the main classification of R-M222 haplogroup. Regards, Bob Wilson, Michigan ----- Original Message ---- From: pat <pkcb113@bellsouth.net> To: wilson-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 8:01:45 AM Subject: [WILSON] DNA I am excited to tell you all finally someone I believe I am related to distantly will do a DNA test for my Samuel Wilson of Lewis County WV. He is as excited as I am. He is a true pioneer for our family history. That only gets me half way there, because that only gets us back to our forefather's possible relationship. Now I need to get a direct Family member to agree to make sure I am related to this Samuel Wilson. Atleast that is how I perceive DNA matches. Keep your fingers crossed. I have hoped for this for so long. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2012 03:33:41