Still looking for a William Wilson/Wilson who was supposedly born in SC around 1801. Married a Sarah unknown, most likely in SC ca 1820-1830's. If census records are correct, 6 daughters and 4 sons were born to them in SC and GA by 1852. I am stuck at this brick wall as I have no idea who William's parents/siblings were, what Sarah's maiden name was, or even worse, where in SC this family lived. It's also possible that William was a middle name.Oh, if only I knew where in SC William and Sarah lived before coming to GA!   Know any Wilson/Wilson families who fit into this picture that came to GA? Could they possibly have traveled to GA with other family/friends/neighbors? Did they perhaps settle elsewhere in GA before settling in Walker Co GA by the 1850 census? Sarah died between 1850-1860 and the family moved to DeKalb Co AL. They appeared on that 1860 census with no Sarah and some of the children married and gone. Sons, Jerry M (Jarrell?) and Abraham were still at home but I believe that Benjamin and possibly James were in AL or GA with families of their own by that time. Without more information, I guess I'm at the end of the line.   Help!! Paula  

Did George spell his name Wilson or Willson? Did he happen to have a son named Morgan? Mark Wilson On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:38 PM, <HGRACE5366@aol.com> wrote: > > So glad to see all of the emails for the Wilson line.  My  Wilson line is > George Legrand Wilson born 12 Sept 1790 of Caswell Co NC and  Pittsylvania Co > VA.  George was married to Katherine Pass 11 Sept  1820.  George is the son > of Jesse and Sally Legrand Wilson.

So glad to see all of the emails for the Wilson line. My Wilson line is George Legrand Wilson born 12 Sept 1790 of Caswell Co NC and Pittsylvania Co VA. George was married to Katherine Pass 11 Sept 1820. George is the son of Jesse and Sally Legrand Wilson. George is a brother to Greenberry Wilson who shows up in Pittsylvania Co VA for a short time. George had a daughter named Parthenia Wilson born in the 1820's. I have her born 1822-1825. She was named after a sister of Jesse's. Parthernia married Charles Henry Frazier in Pittsylvania Co VA in 1844 and then they moved to Carroll Co VA. Any one else researching this line? Rachel

If you use the genetic tests from Family Tree DNA, the results basically provide a probability that if you and another person, are an exact match, will have your Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) within a range of time that is marked backwards. For example, the 12 marker test gives you the following range: 7 generations (50%) likelihood & 29 generations (95%) likelihood. Moving up to the 25 marker test the 50% likelihood drops to a closer 3 generation match and the 95% probability to 13 generations. The 37-marker test brings you closer. For an exact match here there probability of a further to 2 generations (50%) and the 95% to 7 generations. (3 - FTDNA website) Sent from IPhone On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:16 PM, "edwilson" <ed.wilson@comcast.net<mailto:ed.wilson@comcast.net>> wrote: another example of random mutation--have a 3td cousin--our great grandparents were brother's--one born in 1839--the other in 1841--we match 64 of 67 with the 3 non matches off 1 number each--now here's the kicker I match 66 of 67 (and again the one non-match is off only 1)- back one more generation-with a non-surname wilson and the closest common birth I can document is his ancestor was born in 1800 and mine in 1801-(born within 5 miles of each other)--his ancestor's mother was 41 and the "father"was 54 and this was their only child--they had been married 25 yrs (she was 16 when married) when the "oops" occurred--this was in part of now hardy county w va--and at that time there were 12 related wilson adults who could have been the father--(or the "father" could be my ancestor-)- mine was one of a 14 child brood fathered by archibald wilson- (1749-1814)-and an older brother was benjamin wilson (1747-1827) who had 30 children --now if archibald was not the 1800 child's father and another related wilson was--then the common ancestor goes back one more generation--ie--william wilson (1722-1801)( he had a total of 11 children)--father of archibald and benjamin -et al---summary--dna is a great tool--however every now and then a "HUH" occurs---should note that the gentleman I match 66 of 67 wants no further discussion of the issue--I'am kit 8104 at family tree-have 111 marker's tested-- -----Original Message----- From: <mailto:18apatti43@comcast.net> 18apatti43@comcast.net<mailto:18apatti43@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:56 PM To: <mailto:wilson@rootsweb.com> wilson@rootsweb.com<mailto:wilson@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WILSON] Another DNA question Mutations are pretty random - they can occur anytime. Two brothers can be tested and have results that are one or two off at 37 markers (this is not usual, but *can* occur). Your results are well within what might be expected for a most recent common ancestor born ca. 1739. ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:swdyrkinnc@aol.com> swdyrkinnc@aol.com<mailto:swdyrkinnc@aol.com> To: <mailto:wilson@rootsweb.com> wilson@rootsweb.com<mailto:wilson@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:08:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [WILSON] Another DNA question I have a DNA question that I hope some knowledgeable person can answer. This is not a Wilson line, although I have three of those, but I think someone might find the answer valuable, if we can figure it out. My brother had his DNA tested and matched with a male cousin with the same surname. We are 99% certain that both lines can trace back to a common ancestor six generations back. Here are the results of the testing: For the 12 marker test, there was a perfect match. For the 25 marker test, there was a perfect match. For the 37 marker test, there was a genetic distance of 2. This raises many questions. If the Y-DNA was tested and the common male ancestor, born 1739, was found, shouldn't the DNA be identical? If not, what accounts for the differences? Would a genetic distance of 2 be normal for only six generations back? Is a genetic distance of 2 attributable to a mutation, and again would that be normal for only six generations back? Is it possible that my brother and our cousin are not as closely related as we think? Thanks in advance for any help with this mystery. Sharon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:WILSON-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:WILSON-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That you so much for that explanation ~ it really helped me see more clearly how all of this works. Would you also know why there are so many different surnames associated with my father's (and other lines in my family for that matter) DNA? And from what I am seeing with his test results, if the other tester's do not know anything about their lineage it's nearly impossible to nail down a hit! Thanks for any other light you can shed on this topic. Linda Wilson Richards ----- Original Message ----- From: bmacliam@aol.com To: wilson@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 4:12:47 AM Subject: [WILSON] DNA explanation Sorry if this is a repeat of other information, but here's an explanation of how DNA works. Men are XY, women are XX. Mother always supplies X to a child (but mom's 2 X's are NOT the same, so it's not a reliable tools for genealogy). Father supplies either X to a daughter or Y to a son (dad's X came from HIS mother, but which X is unknown). Since a father always passes his Y to all his sons, and they pass their Y to all their sons, etc, this is the way to trace the MALE line from father to grandfather to great-grandfather, etc. If a man has his Y tested, there is no reason for his brothers or sons to test, since they will be IDENTICAL (unless, of course, someone was adopted, or a step-relation). There is NO WAY to trace a woman to her father except through her brother's Y. Since the X is unreliable for testing, another method entirely is used for maternal lineage. All cells have 2 types of chromosomes: Nuclear DNA (the X, Y and 21 others) are in the cell nucleus and come half from mom and half from dad - these define us as unique individuals. Mitochondrial DNA (or mDNA) are found in the mitochondria (not the nucleus) which is an internal structure of cells. Mitochondria are in the mother's egg and pass unchanged to the child - the father's DNA has no part in this. Therefore, tracing anyone's mDNA leads directly to mother to grandmother to great-grandmother, etc. So you can see the difficulty of an only-child daughter trying to trace her father's line - she would need to find a male cousin on her father's side to do a Y-test. Likewise, an mDNA test will not help at all with family names, since women's names usually change with each generation. Brad Wilson BMacLiam@aol.com R1b1a2 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a DNA question that I hope some knowledgeable person can answer. This is not a Wilson line, although I have three of those, but I think someone might find the answer valuable, if we can figure it out. My brother had his DNA tested and matched with a male cousin with the same surname. We are 99% certain that both lines can trace back to a common ancestor six generations back. Here are the results of the testing: For the 12 marker test, there was a perfect match. For the 25 marker test, there was a perfect match. For the 37 marker test, there was a genetic distance of 2. This raises many questions. If the Y-DNA was tested and the common male ancestor, born 1739, was found, shouldn't the DNA be identical? If not, what accounts for the differences? Would a genetic distance of 2 be normal for only six generations back? Is a genetic distance of 2 attributable to a mutation, and again would that be normal for only six generations back? Is it possible that my brother and our cousin are not as closely related as we think? Thanks in advance for any help with this mystery. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: Allene Turner <algatur@msn.com> To: WILSON-L <wilson-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 7:13 am Subject: [WILSON] Old Info for the new activity My g grandfather Alfred Wilson was born in Hendersonville Tenn in 1821 and his brother Berry in 1827. My Aunt orginaly gave me names that were supposedly their siblings. over the years I searched for them and then I found out that the names of the brothers and sisters were Berrys first wife and his children. The dates all matched so I came to accept that fact. On the census in Kansas I found where Allfred listed his parants as from SC and the census for Missouri, Berry listed his parents from Penn. I have since found the name of Berry's first wife to be Olive Moss, originally thought of as a sibling and several chilren of theirs. This was in Indiana and Ia. I found him living in Missouri with second wife Sara Johnson and the children but with a step son Eugene Johnson, widower and a small daugher May. This was in Grundy country, Missouri.Berry died and is buried in the cemetary there. If any of this sounds familar I would appreciate any information about the Pa! rents of Alfred and Berry Wilson. Thanks, Allene Taylor Turner. Everythings Relative ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

another example of random mutation--have a 3td cousin--our great grandparents were brother's--one born in 1839--the other in 1841--we match 64 of 67 with the 3 non matches off 1 number each--now here's the kicker I match 66 of 67 (and again the one non-match is off only 1)- back one more generation-with a non-surname wilson and the closest common birth I can document is his ancestor was born in 1800 and mine in 1801-(born within 5 miles of each other)--his ancestor's mother was 41 and the "father"was 54 and this was their only child--they had been married 25 yrs (she was 16 when married) when the "oops" occurred--this was in part of now hardy county w va--and at that time there were 12 related wilson adults who could have been the father--(or the "father" could be my ancestor-)- mine was one of a 14 child brood fathered by archibald wilson- (1749-1814)-and an older brother was benjamin wilson (1747-1827) who had 30 children --now if archibald was not the 1800 child's father and another related wilson was--then the common ancestor goes back one more generation--ie--william wilson (1722-1801)( he had a total of 11 children)--father of archibald and benjamin -et al---summary--dna is a great tool--however every now and then a "HUH" occurs---should note that the gentleman I match 66 of 67 wants no further discussion of the issue--I'am kit 8104 at family tree-have 111 marker's tested-- -----Original Message----- From: 18apatti43@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:56 PM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] Another DNA question Mutations are pretty random - they can occur anytime. Two brothers can be tested and have results that are one or two off at 37 markers (this is not usual, but *can* occur). Your results are well within what might be expected for a most recent common ancestor born ca. 1739. ----- Original Message ----- From: swdyrkinnc@aol.com To: wilson@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:08:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [WILSON] Another DNA question > > > > I have a DNA question that I hope some knowledgeable person can answer. This is not a Wilson line, although I have three of those, but I think someone might find the answer valuable, if we can figure it out. > > > My brother had his DNA tested and matched with a male cousin with the same surname. We are 99% certain that both lines can trace back to a common ancestor six generations back. Here are the results of the testing: > For the 12 marker test, there was a perfect match. > For the 25 marker test, there was a perfect match. > For the 37 marker test, there was a genetic distance of 2. > > > This raises many questions. If the Y-DNA was tested and the common male ancestor, born 1739, was found, shouldn't the DNA be identical? If not, what accounts for the differences? Would a genetic distance of 2 be normal for only six generations back? Is a genetic distance of 2 attributable to a mutation, and again would that be normal for only six generations back? Is it possible that my brother and our cousin are not as closely related as we think? > > > Thanks in advance for any help with this mystery. > Sharon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mutations are pretty random - they can occur anytime. Two brothers can be tested and have results that are one or two off at 37 markers (this is not usual, but *can* occur). Your results are well within what might be expected for a most recent common ancestor born ca. 1739. ----- Original Message ----- From: swdyrkinnc@aol.com To: wilson@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:08:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [WILSON] Another DNA question > > > > I have a DNA question that I hope some knowledgeable person can answer. This is not a Wilson line, although I have three of those, but I think someone might find the answer valuable, if we can figure it out. > > > My brother had his DNA tested and matched with a male cousin with the same surname. We are 99% certain that both lines can trace back to a common ancestor six generations back. Here are the results of the testing: > For the 12 marker test, there was a perfect match. > For the 25 marker test, there was a perfect match. > For the 37 marker test, there was a genetic distance of 2. > > > This raises many questions. If the Y-DNA was tested and the common male ancestor, born 1739, was found, shouldn't the DNA be identical? If not, what accounts for the differences? Would a genetic distance of 2 be normal for only six generations back? Is a genetic distance of 2 attributable to a mutation, and again would that be normal for only six generations back? Is it possible that my brother and our cousin are not as closely related as we think? > > > Thanks in advance for any help with this mystery. > Sharon

The following is hand written and from: _/Austin and Reed Papers, Manuscript Department, Duke University, Durham. North Carolina/_ State of North Carolina Burke County To any regular licensed minister of the gospel having care of souls or some Justice of the __________ Peace for said county. I do by the authority in me vested by law authorise and impower you or either of you to celebrate and Solemnise the rites of Marriage between John Johnson and Lucy Payne and Join them together in holy marriage as man and wife. Given under my hand at office the 15th day of January 1805 J Erwin Ck This couple later went to Giles County TN ---I would like to correspond with anyone with knowledge of their ancestors and descendants. I find a lot of information on Giles County Johnson's, but having a hard time separating them. I am descended from John Wilson Johnson and Frances L Sellers. John Wilson Johnson first married Rebecca Johnson. Bill Trott Pasadena, TX WTROTT@comcast.net

Bummer...so was hoping for that connection :-( -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Ashford Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:17 AM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while The catch is that the mDNA did not come from his mother's Wilson line, it came from her mother's line. It won't give you a Wilson link. On 01/13/2012 06:51 PM, roberta hall wrote: > Yes in your first line you said my father's mDNA comes from his mother > she is my Wilson connection. With his sample already in storage maybe > now I can get the money scraped together and have it tested for the > Wilson mDNA. It's not the same as a YDNA but this may be the only way > I can get a Wilson allele line established. > Thank you :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jan Ashford > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:09 PM > To: wilson@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while > > Your father's mDNA came from his mother. Your's came from your mother. > Your mother's came from her mother. Your mother's father's came from > his mother, but he did not pass it on to anyone. I think is gets > confusing because the surnames change. You are quite right, your > father's sample is no help at all on your mother's lines. I hope this helps a little. > > > On 01/13/2012 03:21 PM, roberta hall wrote: >> Again, sorry still not clear.....the Estes sample is that of my >> father's (I have not supplied a sample) what information would it >> have of my mother, his wife? >> You also mention both sons and daughters receive the mDNA so would >> that mean that both his father (an Estes YDNA) and his mother (the >> Wilson mDNA) would be in the same sample? As the granddaughter of >> this pair I can see how my mDNA profile would be of my mother's side >> and would not work. My father was one of 4 boys my grandparents had >> my grandmother being the only direct line Wilson female in the family. >> Wait I think a light bulb just went off....(mother to mother) my >> grandmother born a Wilson sur-name of her father but her mother was a >> Mullen so my father would have the Mullen mDNA and nothing of the >> Wilson line...is that correct? Or would he indeed have the Wilson >> mDNA factor given to him by his mother? >> >> Help >> Roberta >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Jan Ashford >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:33 AM >> To: wilson@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while >> >> The mDNA is mother to mother all the way back. That means that the >> surname changes every generation. However both sons and daughters >> receive mDNA from the mother. The son's just don't pass their's on >> to their children. The daughter's do. You can use the Estes sample >> to test for your mother, her mother, etc. but not for the Wilson >> surname because that comes from your mom's father and she would have >> received her mDNA from her mother, not her father. >> >> On 01/13/2012 09:39 AM, roberta hall wrote: >>> It's been a while since I've had any new clues on my Wilson line. My >>> father can't get his cousin to agree to the test (afraid of the gov. >>> is his response). I have heard about the mDNA test but need >>> clarification..My father a Estes by birth (male line) his mother was >>> a Wilson..can I use the same DNA sample that was used to test his >>> Estes lineage to also test his Wilson line or does that have to come >>> from a female like myself who would actually be the granddaughter of >>> the Wilson >> line? >>> As a recap..My Wilson line currently is in Boone Co., Arkansas. My >>> grandmother was born in Stilwell, Ok. But this is not the home >>> location of her father's (my great grandfather's) line. My great >>> grandfather was actually born in Manchester, Scott County, Illinois >>> as was his father. Now my Wilson line going back to my 4x's great >>> grandfather or from 1839 ish >>> -1900 lived on the family farm in Manchester, Scott Co., Illinois. >>> My line moved to Webb City, Jasper County, Missouri around the 1890's. >>> >>> Prior to moving to the Manchester, Scott County, Illinois my 4 x's >>> great grandfather is known to have been born in Kentucky..location >>> currently unknown. I however have one clue in that his wife (lucky >>> for me came from a family who has been documented in books) she was >>> Keziah Tunnell, hers mother's maiden name was Money. Keziah Money >>> Tunnell is said to have been born near Elizabethtown, Kentucky, her >>> family settled near Murrayville, Kentucky in 1829. I'm hoping to >>> find evidence that my Wilson line may have been in this same >>> vicinity and is >> where my 4 x's great grandparents met. >>> 1839 is when the two married in Illinois and settled in Manchester, >>> Illinois. >>> >>> So if anyone has any clues for this line of Wilson's I would love to >>> hear from you, I know there are a lot of new members out there >>> looking to learn where they came from..I've been around for a while >>> but am >> currently stuck. >>> Also if someone can clarify the mDNA testing as it would pertain to >>> my father's sample I would appreciate that. >>> >>> >>> >>> Roberta Estes Hall >>> >>> p.s. my husband's Hall line is from Switzerland Co., Indiana so it >>> was fun to see that location pop up as I have been there in my past >> adventures. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My g grandfather Alfred Wilson was born in Hendersonville Tenn in 1821 and his brother Berry in 1827. My Aunt orginaly gave me names that were supposedly their siblings. over the years I searched for them and then I found out that the names of the brothers and sisters were Berrys first wife and his children. The dates all matched so I came to accept that fact. On the census in Kansas I found where Allfred listed his parants as from SC and the census for Missouri, Berry listed his parents from Penn. I have since found the name of Berry's first wife to be Olive Moss, originally thought of as a sibling and several chilren of theirs. This was in Indiana and Ia. I found him living in Missouri with second wife Sara Johnson and the children but with a step son Eugene Johnson, widower and a small daugher May. This was in Grundy country, Missouri.Berry died and is buried in the cemetary there. If any of this sounds familar I would appreciate any information about the Parents of Alfred and Berry Wilson. Thanks, Allene Taylor Turner. Everythings Relative

Hi Donna, You are so right about not assuming your ancestors strayed from their spouses. My example: My grandfather, George B. Hart was the son of Servina Hurd & Lewis I. Hart, or so I thought. When I got into doing genealogy some 30+ years ago, I found out different. Servina Hurd & Lewis I. Hart had 5 children from 1873 to 1883. They divorced and he married Rosetta Conn in 1884 and my grandfather was born in 1886. The distance from where Lewis I. Hart lived & Servina Hurd lived, was across a county so a days ride by horse & buggy. Her name was still Hart and there were no birth certificates back then, so grandpa was given the name Hart. While digging and asking questions of my older relatives, I found out my grandfather's biological father was probably a Henninger. My grandfather had a bad childhood because he was a "bastard". His older brother, Samuel, and grandpa took trips to Burnside, KY to meet the Cumberland River, boat full of supplies. That was near where Lewis I. Hart and his second wife, Rosetta Conn, lived. The two would take 2 wagons & teams of horses to meet the boat and spend the night at their home. Samuel was treated with respect and ate and slept inside the house with the family. Grandpa on the other hand was brought food outside to eat and slept in the wagon or barn. As far as the genealogy is concerned, I have kept the name Hart but have a note attached to say his biological father is probaby a Henninger. A cousin offered to pay for a DNA test for my uncle, the only living male child, but he refused to take it. He said "dad went to his grave not telling and I'm not going to do it". So we will never know for sure. Betty Wade Putnam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Mariner" <oldsalty99@att.net> To: <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 7:22 PM Subject: [WILSON] maternal DNA Linda - beautifully written. Too many of us have thought that these DNA tests advertised will help us locate some of our more immediate ancestors...and that's not the way it works, as you explained so well. Also, most of us tend to believe that ALL of our ancestors had white skin and blue eyes...and that our great grandmother told the truth when she said that the child that was born after only 7 months of marriage was truly the biological child of the man she married. Again, a beautiful assumption, but that's not the way it always works. We truly are a mix of many, many "mothers" sifted down thru time. Our ancestry search can only lead us a few hundred years back, then it becomes a lot of "guesswork", a lot of "assuming". Who are we to say who actually mated to become our parents 1000 years ago? We are fortunate to obtain "proof" (?) of our lineage for more than two generations. DNA is really the ONLY proof. That is why many of us trace our lineage even though we know, or have suspicions, that our true parentage may never be known. It's fascinating to "DO" genealogy....of anyone's ancestors! ________________________________

well done---thank you--- -----Original Message----- From: bmacliam@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:12 AM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: [WILSON] DNA explanation Sorry if this is a repeat of other information, but here's an explanation of how DNA works. Men are XY, women are XX. Mother always supplies X to a child (but mom's 2 X's are NOT the same, so it's not a reliable tools for genealogy). Father supplies either X to a daughter or Y to a son (dad's X came from HIS mother, but which X is unknown). Since a father always passes his Y to all his sons, and they pass their Y to all their sons, etc, this is the way to trace the MALE line from father to grandfather to great-grandfather, etc. If a man has his Y tested, there is no reason for his brothers or sons to test, since they will be IDENTICAL (unless, of course, someone was adopted, or a step-relation). There is NO WAY to trace a woman to her father except through her brother's Y. Since the X is unreliable for testing, another method entirely is used for maternal lineage. All cells have 2 types of chromosomes: Nuclear DNA (the X, Y and 21 others) are in the cell nucleus and come half from mom and half from dad - these define us as unique individuals. Mitochondrial DNA (or mDNA) are found in the mitochondria (not the nucleus) which is an internal structure of cells. Mitochondria are in the mother's egg and pass unchanged to the child - the father's DNA has no part in this. Therefore, tracing anyone's mDNA leads directly to mother to grandmother to great-grandmother, etc. So you can see the difficulty of an only-child daughter trying to trace her father's line - she would need to find a male cousin on her father's side to do a Y-test. Likewise, an mDNA test will not help at all with family names, since women's names usually change with each generation. Brad Wilson BMacLiam@aol.com R1b1a2 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Due to so much activity on the Wilson list, I thought I'd send in my Wilson's and see if anyone recognizes any of the names and the area that they were from. I have Wilson's on both my Mom's and my Dad's side of the family. My Mom's side is my 3rd Great Grandmother, Ann Wilson b-abt 1810 in TN. She married Ferguson Cryer b-1802+-, in Morgan Co, AL. I have no absolute proof, but I believe that her parents are James Wilson b-1787 in NC & died 1844 in Desha Co, Arkansas & Verlinda Couch. There is an Andrew Jackson Wilson b-1815, who may be her brother or a cousin who is always close by on the census. Anger Price Wilson b-1785 in NC is likely a brother to James. Joseph Wilson b-1780 NC is always close by so I believe that he is a brother to James & Anger Price Wilson also. On my Dad's side--my 2nd great grandmother is Morelda/Serilda Wilson b-1825+- TN. She married James B. Brown. Morelda/Serilda's father may be Joseph Wilson mentioned above. Fennimore Wilson b-1875 Morgan or Marshall Co, AL married Mollie Brown a sister to my grandfather Colley Brown. Fennimore's parents are William "Billy" Wilson b-1836 & Elizabeth Ann Black. William "Billy" Wilson's parents are Unknown Wilson & Annie (Unk) Wilson. Unknown Wilson would have been born abt 1800. Robert Wilson b-1831+- married Isadora Cook and he is a brother to William "Billy". There is also a Greenberry Wilson in the same area as my other Wilson's were. In the same area of Morgan Co, AL, my other Wilson's is a Robert Wilson b-1760 NC. If any of my Wilson's have ever had a DNA test, I do not know if it. IF I had a DNA test done for myself would it show my grandmother's on both sides of my family or just my mother's side??? If there is anyone out there who recognizes any of these names I would certainly welcome any help! Betty (Brown) Carey

Sorry if this is a repeat of other information, but here's an explanation of how DNA works. Men are XY, women are XX. Mother always supplies X to a child (but mom's 2 X's are NOT the same, so it's not a reliable tools for genealogy). Father supplies either X to a daughter or Y to a son (dad's X came from HIS mother, but which X is unknown). Since a father always passes his Y to all his sons, and they pass their Y to all their sons, etc, this is the way to trace the MALE line from father to grandfather to great-grandfather, etc. If a man has his Y tested, there is no reason for his brothers or sons to test, since they will be IDENTICAL (unless, of course, someone was adopted, or a step-relation). There is NO WAY to trace a woman to her father except through her brother's Y. Since the X is unreliable for testing, another method entirely is used for maternal lineage. All cells have 2 types of chromosomes: Nuclear DNA (the X, Y and 21 others) are in the cell nucleus and come half from mom and half from dad - these define us as unique individuals. Mitochondrial DNA (or mDNA) are found in the mitochondria (not the nucleus) which is an internal structure of cells. Mitochondria are in the mother's egg and pass unchanged to the child - the father's DNA has no part in this. Therefore, tracing anyone's mDNA leads directly to mother to grandmother to great-grandmother, etc. So you can see the difficulty of an only-child daughter trying to trace her father's line - she would need to find a male cousin on her father's side to do a Y-test. Likewise, an mDNA test will not help at all with family names, since women's names usually change with each generation. Brad Wilson BMacLiam@aol.com R1b1a2

The catch is that the mDNA did not come from his mother's Wilson line, it came from her mother's line. It won't give you a Wilson link. On 01/13/2012 06:51 PM, roberta hall wrote: > Yes in your first line you said my father's mDNA comes from his mother she > is my Wilson connection. With his sample already in storage maybe now I can > get the money scraped together and have it tested for the Wilson mDNA. It's > not the same as a YDNA but this may be the only way I can get a Wilson > allele line established. > Thank you :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Jan Ashford > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:09 PM > To: wilson@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while > > Your father's mDNA came from his mother. Your's came from your mother. > Your mother's came from her mother. Your mother's father's came from his > mother, but he did not pass it on to anyone. I think is gets confusing > because the surnames change. You are quite right, your father's sample is > no help at all on your mother's lines. I hope this helps a little. > > > On 01/13/2012 03:21 PM, roberta hall wrote: >> Again, sorry still not clear.....the Estes sample is that of my >> father's (I have not supplied a sample) what information would it >> have of my mother, his wife? >> You also mention both sons and daughters receive the mDNA so would >> that mean that both his father (an Estes YDNA) and his mother (the >> Wilson mDNA) would be in the same sample? As the granddaughter of this >> pair I can see how my mDNA profile would be of my mother's side and >> would not work. My father was one of 4 boys my grandparents had my >> grandmother being the only direct line Wilson female in the family. >> Wait I think a light bulb just went off....(mother to mother) my >> grandmother born a Wilson sur-name of her father but her mother was a >> Mullen so my father would have the Mullen mDNA and nothing of the >> Wilson line...is that correct? Or would he indeed have the Wilson mDNA >> factor given to him by his mother? >> >> Help >> Roberta >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Jan Ashford >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:33 AM >> To: wilson@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WILSON] clarify for me please....it's been a while >> >> The mDNA is mother to mother all the way back. That means that the >> surname changes every generation. However both sons and daughters >> receive mDNA from the mother. The son's just don't pass their's on to >> their children. The daughter's do. You can use the Estes sample to >> test for your mother, her mother, etc. but not for the Wilson surname >> because that comes from your mom's father and she would have received >> her mDNA from her mother, not her father. >> >> On 01/13/2012 09:39 AM, roberta hall wrote: >>> It's been a while since I've had any new clues on my Wilson line. My >>> father can't get his cousin to agree to the test (afraid of the gov. >>> is his response). I have heard about the mDNA test but need >>> clarification..My father a Estes by birth (male line) his mother was >>> a Wilson..can I use the same DNA sample that was used to test his >>> Estes lineage to also test his Wilson line or does that have to come >>> from a female like myself who would actually be the granddaughter of >>> the Wilson >> line? >>> As a recap..My Wilson line currently is in Boone Co., Arkansas. My >>> grandmother was born in Stilwell, Ok. But this is not the home >>> location of her father's (my great grandfather's) line. My great >>> grandfather was actually born in Manchester, Scott County, Illinois >>> as was his father. Now my Wilson line going back to my 4x's great >>> grandfather or from 1839 ish >>> -1900 lived on the family farm in Manchester, Scott Co., Illinois. My >>> line moved to Webb City, Jasper County, Missouri around the 1890's. >>> >>> Prior to moving to the Manchester, Scott County, Illinois my 4 x's >>> great grandfather is known to have been born in Kentucky..location >>> currently unknown. I however have one clue in that his wife (lucky >>> for me came from a family who has been documented in books) she was >>> Keziah Tunnell, hers mother's maiden name was Money. Keziah Money >>> Tunnell is said to have been born near Elizabethtown, Kentucky, her >>> family settled near Murrayville, Kentucky in 1829. I'm hoping to find >>> evidence that my Wilson line may have been in this same vicinity and >>> is >> where my 4 x's great grandparents met. >>> 1839 is when the two married in Illinois and settled in Manchester, >>> Illinois. >>> >>> So if anyone has any clues for this line of Wilson's I would love to >>> hear from you, I know there are a lot of new members out there >>> looking to learn where they came from..I've been around for a while >>> but am >> currently stuck. >>> Also if someone can clarify the mDNA testing as it would pertain to >>> my father's sample I would appreciate that. >>> >>> >>> >>> Roberta Estes Hall >>> >>> p.s. my husband's Hall line is from Switzerland Co., Indiana so it >>> was fun to see that location pop up as I have been there in my past >> adventures. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob, This is what I call my Orphan Wilson group. Originally from Scotland, immigrated to Muskoka Area of Ontario, and then some moved south to Michigan, Florida and other places in the US: If you wish more info on this family, please contact me. I feel these Wilson's are family, but cannot tie them into my group until I find the other three missing children of John and Pauline (Polly) Wilson. I have additional family members of this group, but haven't listed them here. Getting too close to the living members . . . I'll send info on MY Wilson family in another e-mail. Dee First Generation - John Wilson I - b. Scotland m. Margaret Sym d. 1810 Second Generation - John Wilson II -b. 1785 Scotland m. Jane Penny d. in Scotland Third Generation - John Wilson III -b. 1823 Scotland m. Annie Hastie d. 1894 Muskoka District, Ontario, Canada Fourth Generation - Children of John III John Wilson IV - b. 1850 Scotland m. Margaret Reid d. 1940 Ontario Allan Wilson - b. 1852 Scotland m. Elizabeth Foreman d. 1940 Muskoka District, Ontario, Canada Elizabeth Wilson - b.1856 Scotland m. Joseph Dixon d. 1932 Muskoka District, Ontario, Canada Thomas Wilson - b. 1858 Scotland No further info. Annie Wilson - b. 1860 Scotland No further Info Fifth Generation - Children of Allan Wilson Mary Annie Wilson Jessie Florence Wilson Elizabeth Grace Wilson John Frederick Wilson James Wilbert Wilson Charles William Wilson Thomas Henry Wilson Edith May Isabella Wilson Frank Joseph Wilson Robert Ernest Wilson Pearl Harriet Mable Wilson Fifth Generation - Children of Elizabeth Wilson Allan Joseph Dixon Arthur Wellington Dixon Harold Dixon Florence Dixon Allan Edward Dixon Arnold Edward Dixon Walter Dixon James Dixon William Dixon Thomas Dixon Christopher Dixon Sixth Generation - Children of Jessie Florence Wilson Pearl Elizabeth Dixon Harold Norman Dixon Thomas George Dixon Allan Joseph Dixon Jr. Annie Amelia Dixon Alene Florance Dixon Neil Donald Dixon Julia Esther Dixon Sixth Generation - Children of John Frederick Wilson Clarence Wilson Allan Wilson Greta Wilson Inex Wilson Jean Wilson Sixth Generation - Children of James Wilbert Wilson Ronald Wilson Gordon Wilson William/Bill Wilson Alletta Wilson Dorothy Wilson Bernice Wilson Helen Wilson Marion Wilson Barbara Wilson Sixth Generation - Children of Edith May Isabella Wilson Wilson A. Crawford Allan Bruce Crawford Sixth Generation - Children of Frank Joseph Wilson Jack Wilson Donald Wilson Ruby Wilson Sixth Generation - Children of Robert Ernest Wilson Ruth Elizabeth Wilson Robert Ross Wilson Edgar Allan Wilson Margaret Joice Wilson Living Wilson Living Wilson Living Wilson

Betty/Gregg: I spent some time a few years back at the library and courthouse in Wayne County researching my mother-in-law's McGowan line that was in Wayne County before Russell County was formed. If your family was in Russell County prior to 1825 it is a good idea to look at Wayne and Pulaski counties. I don't know, it seems to me that I have almost been to almost every county in southwestern and southeastern Kentucky researching my family and my husband's family. His names are Wilson, Tucker, Nelson, Dunbar and Popplewell on his father's side. McGowan, Miller, Bowlin, Hart, Brown and Cain on his mother's side. These families as they relate to my husband all appear to have been in Russell County by the very early 1800's and stayed. My mother's family lines were all in Knox, Laurel, and Whitley County and over into Campbell County, Tennessee. I have done some research in Indiana because it appears some members of my Reynolds (Runnels) line migrated there before going on to Illinois in the years between 1810 and 1850. I am grateful every day for the progress that I have made as a direct result of the DNA projects. I would never have figured some of this out without it. Jan -----Original Message----- From: bettyputnam <bwadeputnam@fairpoint.net> To: wilson <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 2:55 pm Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's Hi Gregg & Jan, Gregg, it would not surprise me one bit if we're related on several ifferent lines. A cousin did some genealogy many years ago and her bservation was, "if your surnames were Wilson, Hopper, Wade, Hart, Judd, or number of other names, you were related to everyone in Russell County." I ertainly believe it. Jan, I'm just getting into your Wilson info and will let you know what I ind. I know I'm going to need some dates to follow through with all this nfo. I'll get back to you. Betty ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Wilson, Gregg" <gw3@evansville.edu> o: <wilson@rootsweb.com> ent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:49 AM ubject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's Hi Jan & Betty, There is a web site called Find A Grave.com that is very useful. If you search for Wilson's in Russell and Pulaski Counties in Kentucky, there are listings for over 400 Wilsons buried in those two counties alone, with many of the dates from the 1800's. It seems that in terms of migration patterns, as settlers in Virginia moved west, that was more or less a route that many took. So, I would think that the chances are pretty favorable that more than one line of Wilson's travelled through this region. Something that Betty has really helped me to understand is how counties have changed boundaries over time. Depending on what time frame one is looking, Russell County in KY could be one name or another as lines were re-drawn (in fact, Kentucky was carved out of Virginia, so a particular area of KY may have actually been a Virginian county, again depending on the time frame). Betty is a great historian of these counties and how they evolved. Betty, there are Hoppers in my line as well. It seems that one group of Hoppers also moved into Warrick County, and married with the Wilsons. It would be interesting to see if this is the same family. We may be related in more ways than one! :) Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM Professor & Chair Department of Exercise and Sport Science Graves Hall University of Evansville Evansville, IN 47720 Tel: (812) 488-2847 Fax: (812) 488-2087 ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

This is what I was told about Luther: He had a son named Edgar or Edward who lived on Bernard Creek in Russell County. Edgar had one son and a daughter named Lillian who married a Grider. Lillian had a son named Bobbie and a daughter named Peggy. Edgar would have been a half-brother to my husband's grandfather, James Monroe Wilson. James (Jimmy Roe) was born in 1883. Not sure which was the older brother. It was my intention to try to contact Lillian or her children but soon after I got this information I underwent surgery and treatment for cancer and I just have not gotten back to researching this line. I would love to nail this down. Is your Luther in this time frame? Jan -----Original Message----- From: roberta hall <jhallvoyager@att.net> To: wilson <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 4:35 pm Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's Jan can you tell me something about your Luther Wilson? y great grandfather and his wife had a son names either Jake Luther or uther Wilson (depending on which document you look at) I lose track of uther and his mom after the 1910 census. Roberta -----Original Message----- rom: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On ehalf Of Jan wilson ent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:41 AM o: wilson@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's hanks Betty. I am going to send off for the DNA kit and then we'll see. Still looking or the elusive Luther Wilson. He had a son named Edgar (James Monroe's alf brother) I am told. Maybe he went by Luther but his first name was fficially something else. Jan -----Original Message----- rom: bettyputnam <bwadeputnam@fairpoint.net> o: wilson <wilson@rootsweb.com> ent: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:10 am ubject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's i Jan & Gregg, an, it's been a long time since we corresponded about our Wilson's. Now ybe we can get back into it. I'll look up and see what I have on your sband's family. Gregg & I have been corresponding also, and maybe by dding nother person to the search, we can find out more. have Wilson's on both my mom & dad's sides of the family, all from Russell unty, KY. They are also related on the Hopper lines. There are so many lson's in Russell, and surrounding counties, but I believe they are robably ll related somewhere along the line. Will email you off-list with ore nfo. In the meantime, if anyone out there have ties to Russell ounty, KY, ou can email me at bwadeputnam@fairpoint.net and we'll all work ogether on his. etty Wade Putnam ndora, OH ---- Original Message ----- om: "Jan wilson" <janwilson.jane@aol.com> : <wilson@rootsweb.com> nt: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:00 AM bject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Gregg: My name is Jan Wilson and I am a co-administrator of the Reynolds and the oses DNA projects (on my mother's side.) I have looked at the Wilson DNA roject and have considered testing my husband, Ron. He was born in ussell County, Kentucky. Ronnie is the grandson of James Monroe Wilson (son of Balzorie Whittle and asper Moses Wilson.) James Monroe Wilson was born on 4-6-1883 in Russell ounty, Kentucky and died 1-27-1964 in Russell Cty. Ky. James Monroe Wilson (they called him Jimmy Roe) married Martha C. Tucker, aughter of Elias Tucker. There is a glitch though - James Monroe was actually 4 years old when alzorie Whittle and Jasper Moses were married. I have been told by older amily members that his father was a fellow named Luther Wilson but my other-in-law told me years ago that he was a Whittle. Whether she said hat because his mother was a Whittle or not I don't know. I believe Jasper Moses was the son of a Moses Brackston Wilson but that ay be irrelevant. Needless to say I investigated the Wilson DNA project as a possible olution to at least find out if my husband is a Whittle or a Wilson but hen I looked at the Wilson DNA project at FTM it was not clear to me that t would be worth participating. I just recently subscribed to the Wilson ailing list and I am happy to see these postings about the DNA project and articularly glad to see a post about the Wilsons in Russell County, entucky. This has helped me make up my mind to go ahead with the testing. I will be looking forward to seeing the results. Have you ever seen any vidence that there was more than the one line of Wilsons in Russell County t that time? Jan Wilson Kings Mills, Ohio (513) 459-9116 -----Original Message----- From: Wilson, Gregg <gw3@evansville.edu> To: wilson <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:04 am Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Our Wilson line originated in Virginia, and moved to Russell County, KY in he arly 1800's. We eventually migrated into Warrick County, IN, which is here we till reside. Our line is R1b1a2 and the main haplogroup lassification is M-269. Does this general description fit into any other Wilson's out there? Best Wishes regg Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM rofessor & Chair epartment of Exercise and Sport Science raves Hall niversity of vansville vansville, IN 47720 el: (812) 488-2847 ax: (812) 488-2087 -----Original Message----- ------------------------------- unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILSON-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in he subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes n the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

My Luther...Jake Luther or Luther Jake was born around January 1902 to Gennette "Nettie" Trout and Darious Ivan Wilson in Mcleansboro, Hamilton County, Illinois. Darious and Nettie separated in 1910 where divorce papers were petitioned for in Mt. Vernon, Illinois. Nettie and Luther are found on the 1910 Jefferson Co., Mt. Vernon Census living with her parents. She has several siblings living in the area and I have found several on the 1920 census for the same area but I cannot find Nettie and son Luther. I have Nettie's father's death certificate who died in 1925 the woman informant listed is one Nellie Hallowell (can't be sure) but I believe this to be Nettie who has remarried. Information on the death certificate shows Nellie Hallowell is from Memphis, Tennessee but try as I might I have been unable to locate a Nellie Hallowell in Memphis or any marriage record for a Nettie Trout/ Wilson. Nor can I find either her or son Luther on any further census records after the Mt. Vernon, Jefferson County, Illinois 1910 one. This information was all listed in my great grandfather's (darious) military pension file. He was asking to see his son after he suffered numerous strokes so I don't know how accurate his memory may have been at the time. Darious did remarry but my grandmother nor my father ever knew about the first marriage or that there was a half brother out there. My grandmother was 15 when she married expecting her father to come to her wedding but what she didn't know was another stroke took his life and his sister (grandmother's aunt) chose not to tell his family and my grandmother went to her grave never speaking about her father. I didn't find the information about the first wife and half brother till after she and her full brother had passed away. My father now has peace of mind as to what happened, he was told his mother and uncle were abandoned when his grandfather went off to go fishing and never returned. In fact he was in and out of military hospitals for much of my grandmother's life. This is the jist of what I know about my Luther Jake Wilson...other than Jake is short for Jacob, named after his mother's father Jacob Jake Trout. There is no Luther's on the Wilson line that I can see so I don't know where this comes from. Roberta -----Original Message----- From: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan wilson Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:22 PM To: wilson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's This is what I was told about Luther: He had a son named Edgar or Edward who lived on Bernard Creek in Russell County. Edgar had one son and a daughter named Lillian who married a Grider. Lillian had a son named Bobbie and a daughter named Peggy. Edgar would have been a half-brother to my husband's grandfather, James Monroe Wilson. James (Jimmy Roe) was born in 1883. Not sure which was the older brother. It was my intention to try to contact Lillian or her children but soon after I got this information I underwent surgery and treatment for cancer and I just have not gotten back to researching this line. I would love to nail this down. Is your Luther in this time frame? Jan -----Original Message----- From: roberta hall <jhallvoyager@att.net> To: wilson <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 4:35 pm Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's Jan can you tell me something about your Luther Wilson? y great grandfather and his wife had a son names either Jake Luther or uther Wilson (depending on which document you look at) I lose track of uther and his mom after the 1910 census. Roberta -----Original Message----- rom: wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wilson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On half Of Jan wilson ent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:41 AM o: wilson@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's hanks Betty. I am going to send off for the DNA kit and then we'll see. Still looking or the elusive Luther Wilson. He had a son named Edgar (James Monroe's alf brother) I am told. Maybe he went by Luther but his first name was fficially something else. Jan -----Original Message----- rom: bettyputnam <bwadeputnam@fairpoint.net> o: wilson <wilson@rootsweb.com> ent: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 6:10 am ubject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Russell County, KY Wilson's i Jan & Gregg, an, it's been a long time since we corresponded about our Wilson's. Now ybe we can get back into it. I'll look up and see what I have on your sband's family. Gregg & I have been corresponding also, and maybe by dding nother person to the search, we can find out more. have Wilson's on both my mom & dad's sides of the family, all from Russell unty, KY. They are also related on the Hopper lines. There are so many lson's in Russell, and surrounding counties, but I believe they are robably ll related somewhere along the line. Will email you off-list with ore nfo. In the meantime, if anyone out there have ties to Russell ounty, KY, ou can email me at bwadeputnam@fairpoint.net and we'll all work ogether on his. etty Wade Putnam ndora, OH ---- Original Message ----- om: "Jan wilson" <janwilson.jane@aol.com> : <wilson@rootsweb.com> nt: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:00 AM bject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Gregg: My name is Jan Wilson and I am a co-administrator of the Reynolds and the oses DNA projects (on my mother's side.) I have looked at the Wilson DNA roject and have considered testing my husband, Ron. He was born in ussell County, Kentucky. Ronnie is the grandson of James Monroe Wilson (son of Balzorie Whittle and asper Moses Wilson.) James Monroe Wilson was born on 4-6-1883 in Russell ounty, Kentucky and died 1-27-1964 in Russell Cty. Ky. James Monroe Wilson (they called him Jimmy Roe) married Martha C. Tucker, aughter of Elias Tucker. There is a glitch though - James Monroe was actually 4 years old when alzorie Whittle and Jasper Moses were married. I have been told by older amily members that his father was a fellow named Luther Wilson but my other-in-law told me years ago that he was a Whittle. Whether she said hat because his mother was a Whittle or not I don't know. I believe Jasper Moses was the son of a Moses Brackston Wilson but that ay be irrelevant. Needless to say I investigated the Wilson DNA project as a possible olution to at least find out if my husband is a Whittle or a Wilson but hen I looked at the Wilson DNA project at FTM it was not clear to me that t would be worth participating. I just recently subscribed to the Wilson ailing list and I am happy to see these postings about the DNA project and articularly glad to see a post about the Wilsons in Russell County, entucky. This has helped me make up my mind to go ahead with the testing. I will be looking forward to seeing the results. Have you ever seen any vidence that there was more than the one line of Wilsons in Russell County t that time? Jan Wilson Kings Mills, Ohio (513) 459-9116 -----Original Message----- From: Wilson, Gregg <gw3@evansville.edu> To: wilson <wilson@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 11:04 am Subject: Re: [WILSON] DNA Our Wilson line originated in Virginia, and moved to Russell County, KY in he arly 1800's. We eventually migrated into Warrick County, IN, which is here we till reside. Our line is R1b1a2 and the main haplogroup lassification is M-269. Does this general description fit into any other Wilson's out there? Best Wishes regg Gregory S. Wilson, P.E.D., FACSM rofessor & Chair epartment of Exercise and Sport Science raves Hall niversity of vansville vansville, IN 47720 el: (812) 488-2847 ax: (812) 488-2087 -----Original Message----- ------------------------------- unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILSON-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in he subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes n the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WILSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message